[lace] out of date books

2015-07-05 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

Many of us are concerned about lace books going out of date. My printer will
Print-on-demand and then send out books for a very small initial fee. He is
not cheap but totally honest and you will receive more than the normal royalty
rate. i.e. all you do is send him a book and then receive royalties. Let me
know if you would like his details.

Blow the dust

Alex

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Re: [lace] Colour of linen

2015-07-05 Thread Alex Stillwell

Hi Linda

Thank you for your reply. I knew we would have someone who could give us the 
definitive answer.


Blow the dust, let,s make lace

Alex

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From: Bill  Linda Mitchell

Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 6:25 PM
To: Alex Stillwell
Subject: Re: [lace] Colour of linen

DH (who is a botanist) thinks this is not a valid point. The membrane of the
root will allow only selected minerals to come into the plant system. For
the iron molecules to cross the membrane, they would have to be in a soluble
form. Iron oxide (the red form)  is not water soluble. There is iron in the
plant, the lack of which causes chlorosis (much like iron-deficient anemia
in animals). This iron is in a different form than iron oxide.

Best to all,
Linda, the string-a-holic in a very hot (and likely to be that way for
another week or so) NW Oregon.

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From: Alex Stillwell

Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 1:28 PM
To: Arachne reply
Cc: Brenda Paternoster
Subject: [lace] Colour of linen

Hi Brenda

Re: . but I have also read somewhere that the
soil and growing conditions has some effect on the colour of unbleached
flax/linen.  Where the soil is rich in iron and has a reddish colour the
flax
fibres will absorb some of that colouring.

That also sounds feasible. If busy lizzie flower stems are placed in red ink
they will absorb the colour into the flowers, absorbing iron sounds much the
same. Any botanists out there who can give a definitive answer?

Blow the dust, let,s make lace.

Alex

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Re: [lace] out of date books

2015-07-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Personally speaking, whilst I love Kindle books for anything that’s going to
be read just once - immediate and easy to store -  for any type of reference
book or one with instructions etc I strongly prefer the printed version, so
much easier to flip from page to page to find whatever it is you are looking
for.

Re: .pdf files - unless you have the full Adobe software they are not editable
but they are scaleable so might be printed at any size.  The only way to know
what the intended size is, is to include a scale or the 10cm x 10cm square.

Brenda

 instead of hunting down the essential book „Practical Skills in Bobbin
Lace“ by Bridget M. Cook, you can get it in the Kindle shop now for a very
reasonable price - it’s a godsend to have it available everywhere on an iPad
or KIndle. Or „100 Traditional Bobbin Lace Patterns“ by Cook/Stott. The
bad thing being that it’s not possible to print from Kindle apps, so you can
only use screenshots and then you’re not able to know which size the
patterns were originally - that wouldn’t happen if there were PDF files
available, which allow for printing at exactly 100%

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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[lace] 3D printers - out of date books

2015-07-05 Thread Jane Partridge
Would we really want to do this, however, considering we have some excellent 
bobbin turners who would likely be put out of work by such a move? Technology 
can have devastating effects on livelihoods - call me a Luddite if you wish!

Jane Partridge 

On 5 Jul 2015, at 13:13, Achim Siebert ac...@achims.de wrote:
To stay nerdy: with the upcoming 3D-printers, we’ll eventually be able to make 
our own bobbins 

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[lace] Re: pattern qustion

2015-07-05 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Dear All,
I got the missing parts very quick thank Clay.
Thank you all others who tried to help me.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] out of date books

2015-07-05 Thread Achim Siebert
There are even further possibilities today. Instead of just stopping to have 
their books printed, the authors could make those volumes public domain and 
give them to project Gutenberg - usually there’s already high quality PDF files 
available or can at least be created easily. Or arrange for that to happen in 
case of their decease by a testamentary note or some such. I presume most 
authors would like to have their work to live on and be common and well known 
to advance the cause of lacemaking.

Some of this is happening already - instead of hunting down the essential book 
„Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace“ by Bridget M. Cook, you can get it in the 
Kindle shop now for a very reasonable price - it’s a godsend to have it 
available everywhere on an iPad or KIndle. Or „100 Traditional Bobbin Lace 
Patterns“ by Cook/Stott. The bad thing being that it’s not possible to print 
from Kindle apps, so you can only use screenshots and then you’re not able to 
know which size the patterns were originally - that wouldn’t happen if there 
were PDF files available, which allow for printing at exactly 100%. A big 
oversight by Amazon. They could at least include a page containing a picture of 
a 10x10 cm square with measurements given for comparison.

Achim from Berlin - with nearly 29 °C in my room now and high humidity, trying 
to move as little as possible

 Am 05.07.2015 um 09:36 schrieb Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net:
 
 Hi Arachnids
 
 Many of us are concerned about lace books going out of date. My printer will
 Print-on-demand and then send out books for a very small initial fee. He is
 not cheap but totally honest and you will receive more than the normal royalty
 rate. i.e. all you do is send him a book and then receive royalties. Let me
 know if you would like his details.
 
 Blow the dust
 
 Alex

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RE: [lace] OIDFA Lace translator

2015-07-05 Thread Yael Kaplan
Dear Miriam,

The translation was done according to the Academy of the Hebrew Language
special dictionary for Lace, Needlework and textile terminology.  

You may find this special dictionary in the Academy web page, and see that
I've followed,  to the letter, the Academy guidelines in translating these
terms.

Therefore, your notes should be addressed to the Academy committee.

Yael


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Miriam Gidron
Sent: יום א 05 יולי 2015 12:38
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] OIDFA Lace translator

Hi,

As a native Israeli, who grew up on the Hebrew language and is using it
daily, I right away checked on the OIDFA translations from English into
Hebrew.

I have studied graduated in translating so I guess I still can say something
in this respect.


Many of the words I found are old fashioned and no longer in use. Hebrew is
a living language which adapts to changes and uses in modern times. I would
never use some of the terms given. I  do teach lace from time to time and I
have learnt lace making from a teacher using Hebrew. I must say that she did
translate some of the terms from the Czech language but they worked well and
made lots of sense. Many embroiderers and weavers use some terms which are
identical to lace making terms and I have never  heard  any of them use some
of the words I have found on the OIDFA translator.

We do have an academic language committee which comes up with new terms to
be used in Hebrew rather than using foreign words but many of them just
don't seem to survive the academy. There are new words for computer terms
and some just don't find their way into the daily language.

I doubt  there are many of you who would refer to these translations but if
they are done they should be done properly.

I have written a comment to OIDFA.

Miriam
in Arad Israel

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Re: [lace] out of date books

2015-07-05 Thread Achim Siebert
Hello Brenda,

 Personally speaking, whilst I love Kindle books for anything that’s going to 
 be read just once - immediate and easy to store -  for any type of reference 
 book or one with instructions etc I strongly prefer the printed version, so 
 much easier to flip from page to page to find whatever it is you are looking 
 for.

That depends a lot on how good the PDF or eBook was prepared - there can be 
contents pages that link directly to the respective pages or appendices with 
linked catchwords. So it might actually be much easier to find something. I’d 
for one would love to have your edition 6 in that format eventually.

 Re: .pdf files - unless you have the full Adobe software they are not 
 editable but they are scaleable so might be printed at any size.  The only 
 way to know what the intended size is, is to include a scale or the 10cm x 
 10cm square.

This is not really necessary for PDF (if done correctly, which nowadays most of 
them are). If I look at an A4 PDF document at 100%, I see exactly A4 on my 27’ 
iMac (I can put a sheet of A4 paper in front to check and it fits perfectly). 
And if I print it at 100%, I get the exact size intended.
So for a PDF with patterns, it will usually be printed correctly. Even better: 
if the author states to use the pattern at e.g. 170% magnification, you don’t 
have to go to a copy shop but just print it at 170% and you’ll have the correct 
size.

This is of course only true if the whole workflow is done digitally, i.e. the 
book being written inside Indesign, PageMaker, QuarkXPress or Apple’s Pages. 
Even Word can output to correctly sized PDF now as far as I know (I haven’t 
used it for some years). For scans of old books converted to PDF this doesn’t 
apply necessarily - the creator of such a PDF will have to have some technical 
prowess and a good scanner to reach a 1:1 result.

So I’m quite confident that the problems we still have within the digital world 
will be gone eventually. I’m always fascinated how well everything works 
together already - take for instance my cutting plotter (Silhouette Cameo): I 
can draw any form with any fillings and any fonts, print it with registration 
marks, then put it into the plotter and end up with an exactly cut out form. I 
use this to make e.g. nostalgic stickers with fancy outlines for cookie jars, 
bottles etc. Measurements I used in the software are always correct to a 10th 
of a mm.

To stay nerdy: with the upcoming 3D-printers, we’ll eventually be able to make 
our own bobbins in any form and size we might want to (unfortunately only in 
plastic and not in wood). Even now it would be possible, the affordable 
machines for home use have a maximum working area of 12x12x12 cm and a 0.1 mm 
accuracy. I’m looking forward to the possibilities this will open up as soon as 
that technology will be a bit more advanced and reliable.

Best, Achim.

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[lace] OIDFA Lace translator

2015-07-05 Thread Miriam Gidron
Hi,

As a native Israeli, who grew up on the Hebrew language and is using it
daily, I right away checked on the OIDFA translations from English into
Hebrew.

I have studied graduated in translating so I guess I still can say
something in this respect.


Many of the words I found are old fashioned and no longer in use. Hebrew is
a living language which adapts to changes and uses in modern times. I would
never use some of the terms given. I  do teach lace from time to time and I
have learnt lace making from a teacher using Hebrew. I must say that she
did translate some of the terms from the Czech language but they worked
well and made lots of sense. Many embroiderers and weavers use some terms
which are identical to lace making terms and I have never  heard  any of
them use some of the words I have found on the OIDFA translator.

We do have an academic language committee which comes up with new terms to
be used in Hebrew rather than using foreign words but many of them just
don't seem to survive the academy. There are new words for computer terms
and some just don't find their way into the daily language.

I doubt  there are many of you who would refer to these translations but if
they are done they should be done properly.

I have written a comment to OIDFA.

Miriam
in Arad Israel

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Re: [lace] out of date books

2015-07-05 Thread The Lace Bee
I bought the cook / Scott laces stitches for the kindle on iPad to use when 
teaching so I could keep my copy at home. 

It does the job but the kindle does not render the page the same way as the 
written book. What is on one page and easy to see in the paper copy is over 2 
or three pages on the kindle regardless of which way you hold it up.  The means 
that the photo and diagram are not shown together

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

 On 5 Jul 2015, at 11:06, Achim Siebert ac...@achims.de wrote:
 
 Some of this is happening already - instead of hunting down the essential 
 book „Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace“ by Bridget M. Cook, you can get it in 
 the Kindle shop now for a very reasonable price - it’s a godsend to have it 
 available everywhere on an iPad or KIndle. Or „100 Traditional Bobbin Lace 
 Patterns“ by Cook/Stott.

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Re: [lace] 3D printers

2015-07-05 Thread Sue Duckles
Hmm I do not think it would affect the bobbin turners too much Jane.  I, 
for one, would far sooner use a beautiful hand turned wood or bone bobbin by 
those bobbin turners out there rather than one made of plastic!!  (Thinking 
here of the likes of Sixpenny Bobbins, Stuart Johnson, Chris Parsons and others 
whose names do not spring to mind at present) and I have a number of all of 
their bobbins in use at the moment!!) However, there are lacemakers around who 
only ever use plastic bobbins each to his own!!  Some 'collect' bobbins 
from certain turners (thinking of the bobbin a month clubs), and I can't really 
see them stopping unless something 'drastic' happened!!

Back down off soapbox and into the garden because it's sunny here today!!

Sue in East Yorkshire

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[lace] Re: 3D printers - out of date books

2015-07-05 Thread Achim Siebert
Hello Jane,
I think most of us will want to work with „real“ wooden bobbins. But this might 
get necessary eventually - I know only one source of high quality bobbins in 
the European styles like Binche, Mechlin etc. that are affordable (Karin 
Langendorf), and I’m quite sure that those are also sold by Belgian and French 
shops. The rest that you might find is one kind of clumsy Danish bobbin that 
has no smooth finish at all. And then there’s the typical German kind, which is 
also more suited to coarser thread.

The spangled bobbins of England are not as easily copied - and even those are 
already available in plastic. There are a few providers of those, but they are 
not adequate tools for really fine laces as Binche, Chantilly and others, as 
they take too much room on the pillow, are slower to work with and the spangle 
get’s easily caught in the threads. I like them a lot anyway and use them for 
Torchon bookmarks and other smaller projects.

So for me the 3D-printed bobbins would just be a replacement if eventually 
there are no bobbins available any more in the French and Belgian styles. I’ll 
never need them, since I already have a few hundred of my favourites: the 
Binche type (Bruge or Bayeux style would probably do just as well).

Wood turning machines also make progress - there are CNC machines that make 
very accurate copies of one piece. The cost of those machines is so high, 
though, that it will probably make no sense to use them for the small market of 
bobbins.

Best, Achim.

 Would we really want to do this, however, considering we have some excellent 
 bobbin turners who would likely be put out of work by such a move? Technology 
 can have devastating effects on livelihoods - call me a Luddite if you wish!
 
 Jane Partridge 
 
 On 5 Jul 2015, at 13:13, Achim Siebert ac...@achims.de wrote:
 To stay nerdy: with the upcoming 3D-printers, we’ll eventually be able to 
 make our own bobbins 
 

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RE: [lace] OIDFA Lace translator

2015-07-05 Thread Jean Leader
If anyone wishes to comment on the Hebrew lace translation on the OIDFA 
website, I think it would be best if they contacted me OFF-list (via Jean’s 
email address). 

Thank you,

David Leader

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[lace] Flanders beginner books

2015-07-05 Thread Marianne Gallant
Can someone recommend a good beginner book that is on the market right 
now, for Flanders lace? I have the Mary Niven 'Flanders lace a step by 
step guide', but I find it rather lacking in instructions. There are a 
lot of historical notes, but not a lot of 'do this, and then do this' 
type of instructions. Like there is not really any explanation as to how 
to do the footside, or how to deal with the gimp on the head side. I 
have been watching the videos by Sally Schoenberg, but it is a bit of a 
nuisance to watch what she is doing, stop the dvd, try to do the step, 
not sure if you remember right, go back watch it again etc. It would be 
so much easier if I had a book with clear instructions.  Like, don't 
tell me to 'practice the ground stitch' before starting any patterns 
without explaining exactly how to do the ground stitch and how it 
relates to the foot and head sides.
I was going to start with the Chantilly lace, but found the instructions 
not that clear there either, so I decided I'd wait till August when I 
can meet up with Dianne who has taken a course from Lia, and she can 
help me. So I thought I'd try out Flanders, but seem to be running into 
the same problem, not enough instruction to learn it by yourself. I 
taught myself to do Bucks and Honiton from books, and had no trouble 
figuring out how to do it, but these ones leave me baffled.
And it seems that books are disappearing off the market faster than I 
can afford to buy them. I had bought the first Syllabus of Binche a year 
or so ago, and wanted to get the next one, only to find that it is out 
of print, I found that Trillium lace still had the third one listed on 
their website, so i am hoping she still has a copy. Same goes for the 
Michael Giusiana ones, only book 3 is still in print.
So I am hoping someone can recommend a good beginner book that actually 
tells you the steps and which stitches to use, and not just tell you to 
work the edge or work the picot, without even telling you how to get 
there from the ground stitches...The Niven book doesn't even tell you 
how many pairs to hang where to start
In the meantime I guess I'll see if the Valenciennes book by Annick 
Staes is any good to get started. If not, I guess I'll have to stick to 
Bucks for the time beingjust thought I'd keep my interest going by 
trying something new, but I don't need the frustration of not 
understanding what is going on.

*Marianne*

Marianne Gallant
m...@shaw.ca
threadsnminis.blogspot.ca

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[lace] Basic bobbin lace dog or puppy

2015-07-05 Thread Dagmar Beckel Machyckova
Does anyone know of a beginner puppy/dog pattern?
My 7 year old just finished her first piece of lace and is very excited.
She asked for a puppy to be her next pattern and I want to keep the
momentum going.

Any suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you,
Dagmar

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