[lace] lace bobbins?
This is another case of We don't know what they are but why let the truth get in the way of a sale? Most of the world don't know what lace bobbins look like, so we'll call them lace bobbins so a non-lacemaker will buy them, and we'll get rid of them. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Hi Jenny and fellow Arachnids, Could these be part of a game? The holes on these items go from 1 to 8 which could be significant. I will contact the seller and suggest it to him/her. Happy New Year full of lace making! Joepie, East Sussex, UK -Original Message- From: Jenny Brandis Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 4:16 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] lace bobbins? Are these actually lace bobbins? What would you use them for? http://www.rubylane.com/item/370063-004620/9-Antique-Chinese-Hand-Carved Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia je...@brandis.com.au mailto:je...@brandis.com.au www.brandis.com.au http://www.brandis.com.au/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Hi All I agree, no way can they be lace bobbins as any of us know them... however In Elizabethan times in the UK bones were carved with holes slightly bigger than this, but the item was around the same size the centre was stuffed with sheeps wool and they were worn inside the clothing to catch the fleas, lice etc One solution to the question of what they may be anyway Sue in East Yorkshire where we're expecting more very high tides over the next few days... My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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At first sight, I thought they could be flutes. But after seing that the holes are different in each stick... I think my guess is incorrect. Then I thought the sticks can be part of a mobile that emits relaxing sounds, kind of this: http://www.maykaesoterismo.com/images/moviles/PERFUMES%20005.JPG Well, just thinking aloud Have a Happy New Year 2014! Antje, from Spain... cold and misty. https://www.etsy.com/shop/TwistAndCrosshttps://www.etsy.com/shop/TwistAndCross?ref=pr_shop_more - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Firstly, Happy New Year to everyone, Brian I see you have beaten us to it (we still have 11.5 hours to go in the UK) as it was tomorrow when you posted your reply - no 'mere mail', but super-fast by my reckoning :-) Anyway, my first thought was the toggles that are used in Japanese clothing to hold cords secure, as then the holes would be explained. That though doesn't fit in with the varying numbers of holes, making this a set. Possibly they were the hoods like on German bobbins where the hood keeps the thread clean - but again, if for that use why have more than two holes? I'm wondering if, as each would make a different sound and there are eight notes in an octave, these are actually from a wind chime? In message 009501cf05df$23909ec0$6ab1dc40$@brandis.com.au, Jenny Brandis je...@brandis.com.au writes Are these actually lace bobbins? What would you use them for? http://www.rubylane.com/item/370063-004620/9-Antique-Chinese-Hand-Carved -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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At 03:16 PM 31/12/2013, Jenny Brandis wrote: Are these actually lace bobbins? What would you use them for? http://www.rubylane.com/item/370063-004620/9-Antique-Chinese-Hand-Carved They look more like mini recorders, flutes or pan pipes to me David in Ballarat, where it's now 2014!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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But then, David, why are there different number of holes? Antje González, from Spain. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Antje, I had the same thought... and also thought it might be far-fetched. There don't appear to be any holes or grooves to secure the various pieces. But if secured on a base, perhaps they were part of an Aeolian Harp? The holes would make each pipe create a different sound. Clay Sent from my iPad On Dec 31, 2013, at 7:24 AM, AGlez antje.gonza...@gmail.com wrote: At first sight, I thought they could be flutes. But after seing that the holes are different in each stick... I think my guess is incorrect. Then I thought the sticks can be part of a mobile that emits relaxing sounds, kind of this: http://www.maykaesoterismo.com/images/moviles/PERFUMES%20005.JPG - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Jane I'm wondering if, as each would make a different sound and there are eight notes in an octave, these are actually from a wind chime? Me too, but then I remembered that the Chinese use the Pentatonic scale which requires only 5 holes :( David in Ballarat, AUS 0103 hrs on Jan 1st 2014 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I go with everyone who thinks they are a musical instrument. The holes to me signify some sort of flute. Maybe 9 of the pipes of a pan pipe: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1233465/paixiao Sue http://www.rubylane.com/item/370063-004620/9-Antique-Chinese-Hand-Carved - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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That's really interesting Sue. Where did you find out about it and what would the items have been called? Karen in Malta - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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This was my first thought too and they would each have a different tone so they would make a very musical windchime... Cearbhael -Original Message- From: AGlez Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 6:24 AM To: Arachne Subject: Re: [lace] lace bobbins? Then I thought the sticks can be part of a mobile that emits relaxing sounds, kind of this: http://www.maykaesoterismo.com/images/moviles/PERFUMES%20005.JPG - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] lace bobbins?
Are these actually lace bobbins? What would you use them for? http://www.rubylane.com/item/370063-004620/9-Antique-Chinese-Hand-Carved Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia je...@brandis.com.au mailto:je...@brandis.com.au www.brandis.com.au http://www.brandis.com.au/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Jenny Brandis je...@brandis.com.au wrote: Are these actually lace bobbins? What would you use them for? Boy, those are strange! No way they're lacemaking bobbins, but I have no idea what they could be for. I wonder what that red stuff is poking out of the holes in the central one. That might be a clue to their use. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com Parvum leve mentes capiunt (Little things amuse little minds) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace bobbins and types + wonderful book about lacers and lace apparatus in Haute Loire
Le 15/12/10 13:25, Brian Lemin a écrit : a genre of bobbins that are sort of thinnish in my group , when we must use a lot of bobbins filled with thin threads we tend to use thinner bobbins .. for example,middland bobbins without the spangles .. further more some Le puy carreaux could be very small and the bobbins made accordingly . I have a kid's one with very small bobbins . should take pictures ... I know ... dominique ps . I came across a wonderful book with lots of photos or lacers' lights and tables used in Haute Loire . * *Georges Dubouchet: les fees aux doigts magiques*. *au Pays de la Reine des Montagnes* .publications du musée de st Didier en Velay (haute Loire) this private museum was closed in July and the collection sold to someone who should set it up in a new museum in Seine et Marne , near Paris. you can order or get information from : Genevieve de Fraissinette Chazel 43140 Saint Didier en Velay tel: 04 77 35 62 10 http://www.leveil.fr/infos-du-jour/Saint-Didier-en-Velay-3542 Mme de fraissinette is the grey haired lady sitting at the table . the book was issued in June 2010 and cost 65 EUR + postage (10EUR60 for France) . of course it's in French but it's got so many interesting photos I thought it might be of interest to you I won't scan nor photocopy the photos because the money raised is used by M. Dubouchet to publish new books . further links (in french ..) http://georges.dubouchet.free.fr/museedescampagnes/topic/index.html about the book : http://georges.dubouchet.free.fr/museedescampagnes/mapage3/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Lace bobbins and types
Whoops, I opened my mouth with a lot of generalities regarding fashion for thinner bobbins. However it has been nice knowing what you practitioners think and feel about them. From my rarefied atmosphere I tend to forget that they are tools from time to time and that above all you use the bobbins you have. I am glad you have brought me down to earth.. thank you. Meantime I will tell you that I have a couple of Very then and short bobbins. both bone and indeed wire bound with beads. Very pretty. The small neck is actually tiny. I think they are amazing bobbins but I have no idea if A. They were made for a purpose or B, The turner had some small sticks of bone and decided to make bobbins from them. I have not seen any modern bobbins as small as these. The other thing I have whizzing around my head relating to spangling, is that there was a transitional period where both spangled and non spangled bobbins were being used, but more especially I think I am beginning to see a genre of bobbins that are sort of thinnish and have just one bead or two bead spangles on them. My thoughts are not clear on that at the moment. I ma fairly sure that we will never have a definitive answer to when spangling started but it is a fascinating topic. For example I am studying the Carol Morris Shepherd's Bobbin (January 1990 issue of the Lace Guild's Quarterly Bulletin.) and there is a 1795 dated bobbin that has a spangle. OK dated bobbin are not always accurate, but it makes you think. I am really enjoying your thoughts and find them helpful in my thinking times. (Not often, according to my wife!!!) From Brian and Jean Cooranbong. Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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I am sure in my mind that their are both fashions and personal likes and dislikes. Actually I have written an essay (that is being vetted by a friend) about just this thing. Lace makers talk mostly about smoothness in handling their bobbins, they also have favourite makers, there is quite a good interest in square bobbins. I think it is horses for courses. Certainly the fashions (if I am correct) for bobbins today, differ widely from the fashions that the antique bobbins indicate. For a start the diameter (generally speaking) today is much thinner than the old time bobbins. I have been known (with the kindest sympathies for those sufferers and their families of the illness) to call modern day bobbins as anorexic compared to to their elders. Perhaps I should say.. watch this space as I will offer my essay to those who may be interested. To offer a teaser... I am suggesting that spangling came about as the result of fashion and not to do with the technicalities of lace making. OK wait... and then read it and respond. But enjoy your bobbins, that is what I want you to do. From Brian and Jean Cooranbong. Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] lace bobbins
Wendy, I have some bone bobbins - both new and antique, and I have not had any break. I have one with 1842 engraved on it - and it is as good as new - well, almost - it has made many miles of lace I would think!! If you fancy some bone bobbins - Go for it. With the usual care, they will last forever. Just don't drop them - or sit on them, etc!! Mine are all used frequently, and just kept with all the others when they are off the pillow in a plastic container in a drawer. (3 and/or 4 litre Ice-cream containers are great for holding lots of spare bobbins!!! :)) ) Regards from Liz in cold, grey, damp Melbourne, Oz. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 225 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Wendy, I can say from experience that bone bobbins are brittle. I dropped one and it broke. I did manage to glue the parts together but it is never the same. I must say , though, that I have stone floors, and this might have been the cause. Living in hot climates we prefer the stone on carpeting or wooden floors, it is cooler. This is also why I have my glass bobbins in my show case and not on my pillow. Miriam in Arad, Israel Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:38:46 + From: Wendy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] lace bobbins Hi all I was told at our last lace day that bone bobbins are very brittle and if dropped they would break is this true as after reading all of your comments I would really like to get at least one pair. Wendy St Dogmaels - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi all When I first started lace making I made some bobbins from air drying clay. I did use them a few times but as I hadn't painted them the clay did rub off on the pillow and they did look a bit gimpy if you know what I mean, as I was a beginner I didn't quite have the proportions right but the one thing I didn't have to do was put spangles on them as they are heavy enough. Still it was good to make my own, maybe one day I will try again now that I know what they need to be like, I suppose they would be ideal for Milanese as they are heavy enough to not need spangles. Wendy St Dogmaels _ The John Lewis Clearance - save up to 50% with FREE delivery - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear all Can I put in a word here about old bobbins - bone and wood. Very often old bobbins have been neglected and stored incorrectly i.e. either in a damp area or somewhere warm and dry (central heating). Bone seems not to be so susceptible to temperature fluctuation (unless decorated) but wood can dry out considerably and become brittle. At the moment I'm working my through an NVQ (National Vocational Qualification) Level 3 in Cultural Heritage Operations - for work in museums. One unit I opted to work on was 'Care of Items' and being a lacemaker one particular item I chose was bobbins (as one would!). I contacted several museums for advice - choosing ones that I knew had collections of bobbins - Cecil Higgins, British Museum, VA - but Veronica Main at Luton Museum was particularly helpful. Storing bobbins in suitable boxes made from polyester, polyethylene or polypropylene is recommended. If necessary old wood bobbins can be 'revived' with Renaissance Wax, but this should be used sparingly. If the bobbins are not in use, and you feel the need, they can be stored wrapped in acid free tissue. OK we're not talking about museum items here but for future generations I think we should preserve as best we can our precious bobbins. I have used RW on a small collection of very badly neglected old bobbins both wood and bone and in the short term they seem not to have suffered but only time will tell if I have blundered but it couldn't be any worse than the original state they were in. I'm afraid I don't always practice what I preach but my 'special' are wrapped away in AF tissue. I can hear you all now - why have bobbins that you don't use? Plain and simple - I love them and quite a number of them are too precious and fragile to use. Diana in a very hot and humid Northamptonshire - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi all I was told at our last lace day that bone bobbins are very brittle and if dropped they would break is this true as after reading all of your comments I would really like to get at least one pair. Wendy St Dogmaels _ Invite your Facebook friends to chat on Messenger - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Wendy A lot of things break when dropped. However, if you think of human bone, it is quite strong, yet wil break under certain circumstances. The same with bone bobbins. Don't drop them on a concrete floor as they will break. Apart from that they are pretty strong. B.t.w. wood bobbins can break too under similar circumstances. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK www.sixpennybobbins.co.uk Wendy Davies wrote: Hi all I was told at our last lace day that bone bobbins are very brittle and if dropped they would break is this true as after reading all of your comments I would really like to get at least one pair. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think cat's tail bobbins must be rosaline bobbins. They have a small wood extension from the bulb at the bottom of the bobbin, handy for sewings. Cute name, very descriptive, I never before heard that term for those bobbins . The ones I have are so smooth, a delight to handle. -- Doris O'Neill in Chicago area -- Original message -- From: Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] What are cat's tail bobbins? Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bevw Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:40 PM To: Clay Blackwell Cc: Lace Subject: Re: [lace] Lace bobbins I think the bone vs. wood (or wood vs. bone to be diplomatic ) informal opinion poll is interesting and yes isn't it wonderful we can have a choice. Clay wrote: I would love to be able to work with each of those very distinct styles of apparatus, just for the experience. I have a sort of collection like this - I have enough Spanish bobbins and a large bolster to work a decent (usually Torchon) pattern with them. I even use the 'continental' method (e.g. TC for half-stitch) when I work with them. When I wanted to teach myself Rosaline from a book I invested in the cat's tail bobbins, only 12 bobbins are needed then I got a lot more when I realized how nice they are to work with for other laces. Honiton bobbins and pillow for honiton lace of course when I was dabbling in that. I have lots and lots of spangled midlands, almost all wood or plastic, brought out for Beds or Buckspoint projects. The midlands are shelved for now while I concentrate on Flanders lace and using Flemish-style bobbins for it. I'm not into using bone, to handle it gives me the creeps. Ditto when I decided to try an old Buckspoint pricking, still with its eaches (sp), the linen tabs to pin it to the pillow; I rigged a midlands bolster stuffed with straw and hung on antique spangled midlands I'd bought on ebay - the dust of the ages was bothersome! The poor little bobbins had dried out considerably since they were first used, so the authentic experience was not to be had - but it had been fun assembling the components :) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wendy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told at our last lace day that bone bobbins are very brittle and if dropped they would break is this true as after reading all of your comments I would really like to get at least one pair.- I've got a lot of Midlands spangled bobbins, in metal, wood, bone, and glass. So far, I've broken one glass and two wood, but no bone yet. Not exactly a scientific study, but that's the results. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I indulge my liking for bone bobbins by buying them through bobbin-a-month. Various bobbins makers have these clubs. I pick out and order the 12 I want for the year from the supplier's catalogue, and then receive them every two months to save postage, but I could have them every month. I also get a bonus one for free at the end of the year. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think where bobbins are concerned, it definitely depends on what you're doing with them!! I think there is nothing prettier than a lovely pillow (Toustou roller, perhaps?), filled with spangled bobbins of every description - plain, painted, spliced, bone, etc. I also belonged to a bone bobbin-of-the-month club for a couple of years, and so have a gorgeous collection. But, sigh, I now find that the spangles slow me down, and get in my way. So my beautiful bobbins are rarely used any more. I have the prettiest on display in glass-domed stands which at least allow me to enjoy them. Instead, I use plain wooden bobbins (rosewood - which has a lovely sound), and as I usually have a couple hundred on the pillow, it's still a pretty sight... I still belong to BOMs, but the bobbins I get are continentals which are spliced or painted. They add some bling to the pillow without interfering with my work. So... as Liz says, we all like something different! One of my favorite books is Kloppel, Kissen, Stander, a lavishly illustrated book on the bobbins, pillows, and stands of the many countries (and regions) of the world. I would love to be able to work with each of those very distinct styles of apparatus, just for the experience. Clay Jean Nathan wrote: I indulge my liking for bone bobbins by buying them through bobbin-a-month. Various bobbins makers have these clubs. I pick out and order the 12 I want for the year from the supplier's catalogue, and then receive them every two months to save postage, but I could have them every month. I also get a bonus one for free at the end of the year. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think the bone vs. wood (or wood vs. bone to be diplomatic g) informal opinion poll is interesting vbg and yes isn't it wonderful we can have a choice. Clay wrote: I would love to be able to work with each of those very distinct styles of apparatus, just for the experience. I have a sort of collection like this - I have enough Spanish bobbins and a large bolster to work a decent (usually Torchon) pattern with them. I even use the 'continental' method (e.g. TC for half-stitch) when I work with them. When I wanted to teach myself Rosaline from a book I invested in the cat's tail bobbins, only 12 bobbins are needed then I got a lot more when I realized how nice they are to work with for other laces. Honiton bobbins and pillow for honiton lace of course when I was dabbling in that. I have lots and lots of spangled midlands, almost all wood or plastic, brought out for Beds or Buckspoint projects. The midlands are shelved for now while I concentrate on Flanders lace and using Flemish-style bobbins for it. I'm not into using bone, to handle it gives me the creeps. Ditto when I decided to try an old Buckspoint pricking, still with its eaches (sp), the linen tabs to pin it to the pillow; I rigged a midlands bolster stuffed with straw and hung on antique spangled midlands I'd bought on ebay - the dust of the ages was bothersome! The poor little bobbins had dried out considerably since they were first used, so the authentic experience was not to be had - but it had been fun assembling the components :) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Daphne, I'm still waiting for the question David in Ballarat Hello Fellow Lacemakers My husband asked me to ask all of you this question. Bone bobbins versus wood bobbins While a lot of bobbins are turned in hard woods are not so easy to come by. It takes a lot of time to grow the trees, where`as the bones are easier to get, because most are cattle bones. I look forward to your replies. Daphne Sunny but chilly Norfolk England [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of elephant_en.gif] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 21/07/2008 6:42 AM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What are cat's tail bobbins? Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bevw Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:40 PM To: Clay Blackwell Cc: Lace Subject: Re: [lace] Lace bobbins I think the bone vs. wood (or wood vs. bone to be diplomatic g) informal opinion poll is interesting vbg and yes isn't it wonderful we can have a choice. Clay wrote: I would love to be able to work with each of those very distinct styles of apparatus, just for the experience. I have a sort of collection like this - I have enough Spanish bobbins and a large bolster to work a decent (usually Torchon) pattern with them. I even use the 'continental' method (e.g. TC for half-stitch) when I work with them. When I wanted to teach myself Rosaline from a book I invested in the cat's tail bobbins, only 12 bobbins are needed then I got a lot more when I realized how nice they are to work with for other laces. Honiton bobbins and pillow for honiton lace of course when I was dabbling in that. I have lots and lots of spangled midlands, almost all wood or plastic, brought out for Beds or Buckspoint projects. The midlands are shelved for now while I concentrate on Flanders lace and using Flemish-style bobbins for it. I'm not into using bone, to handle it gives me the creeps. Ditto when I decided to try an old Buckspoint pricking, still with its eaches (sp), the linen tabs to pin it to the pillow; I rigged a midlands bolster stuffed with straw and hung on antique spangled midlands I'd bought on ebay - the dust of the ages was bothersome! The poor little bobbins had dried out considerably since they were first used, so the authentic experience was not to be had - but it had been fun assembling the components :) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace Bobbins
Hello Fellow Lacemakers My husband asked me to ask all of you this question. Bone bobbins versus wood bobbins While a lot of bobbins are turned in hard woods are not so easy to come by. It takes a lot of time to grow the trees, where`as the bones are easier to get, because most are cattle bones. I look forward to your replies. Daphne Sunny but chilly Norfolk England [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of elephant_en.gif] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Daphne and everyone There are some excellent Q and As at Kenn van Dieren's site: http://www.bobbinmaker.com/faqbob.html My quick answer is if bone was nicer to work with than wood, for the bobbin maker, maybe we'd all be using more bone bobbins than wood bobbins. I prefer wood though, any time. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Daphne Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bone bobbins versus wood bobbins While a lot of bobbins are turned in hard woods are not so easy to come by. It takes a lot of time to grow the trees, where`as the bones are easier to get, because most are cattle bones. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This from a lace maker whose husband hand turns both bone and wood bobbins. He uses hardwood, which is mainly recycled from old furniture, gate posts, mantelpieces etc., or obtained locally when a tree has fallen in a storm or had to be felled because it was diseased, or obtained via companies that only sell FSC guaranteed wood. This last one means that the hardwood has been sustainably harvested (i..e . through necessary thinning or trees/branches that broke in a storm. I know we have to use our trust here, and of course there are unscrupulous sellers who'll tell you what you want to hear. An added problem is that it is illegal to import many endangered tropical woods into the EU, but once inside you are free to trade it. He uses bone which he buys from another well-known bobbin turner. It is mainly camel or water buffalo bone, as the cows in UK ar now slaughtered before they are 36 months old, and the bones are therefore too thin to be used for lace bobbins. He did obtain some bones locally, cleaned them in the pressure cooker with washing powder; the smell was horrible and the result a few divider pins. In Victorian times the bones used were mainly horse (from work horses) as their bones were longer and straighter than cow bones, though these were used too. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK www.sixpennybobbins.co.uk Daphne Martin wrote: Hello Fellow Lacemakers My husband asked me to ask all of you this question. Bone bobbins versus wood bobbins While a lot of bobbins are turned in hard woods are not so easy to come by. It takes a lot of time to grow the trees, where`as the bones are easier to get, because most are cattle bones. I look forward to your replies. Daphne Sunny but chilly Norfolk England - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This question brought several thoughts to my mind. Yes, trees take longer to grow than a cow, but there's a lot fewer earth resources used in growing a mature speciman. I understand it's harder or messier to turn bobbins from bone than wood. There must be some reason that bone bobbins are so much more expensive than wood bobbins-- either cost/availability of supplies or labor to do it. Also, how many bobbins can be made from the bones of one cow? It takes bone of a certain thickness and not all the bones qualify. I may be wrong, but I think a person can get more bobbins from one branch of that tree than from an entire cow. Because of the small amount of wood needed for a bobbin, they could be made from the scraps created in making larger furniture or limbs from trees cut down for other reasons. For environmental impact and economy, I go with wood bobbins. Alice in Oregon - Original Message From: Daphne Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:36:02 AM Subject: [lace] lace Bobbins Hello Fellow Lacemakers My husband asked me to ask all of you this question. Bone bobbins versus wood bobbins While a lot of bobbins are turned in hard woods are not so easy to come by. It takes a lot of time to grow the trees, where`as the bones are easier to get, because most are cattle bones. I look forward to your replies. Daphne Sunny but chilly Norfolk England [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of elephant_en.gif] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Daphne, Bev et al, I do love bone bobbins, but I have heard Steven Pearce talk on making bobbins several times, and as he makes only bone bobbins, it is a real performance! He has all sorts of air filters in the garden shed where he makes them, and also has a sort of mask-like job to put over his face, so he is breathing in purified air rather than bone dust, as that - apparently - is dangerous and carcinogenic. Maybe that explains why bone is generally more expensive, and less easily available! Carol - in Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daphne Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lace lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [lace] lace Bobbins Hello Daphne and everyone There are some excellent Q and As at Kenn van Dieren's site: http://www.bobbinmaker.com/faqbob.html My quick answer is if bone was nicer to work with than wood, for the bobbin maker, maybe we'd all be using more bone bobbins than wood bobbins. I prefer wood though, any time. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Daphne Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bone bobbins versus wood bobbins While a lot of bobbins are turned in hard woods are not so easy to come by. It takes a lot of time to grow the trees, where`as the bones are easier to get, because most are cattle bones. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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And another thing to consider is that the trees absord carbon dioxide while they are growing and the carbon remains trapped in our bobbins. Although there is a fair bit of waste in the cutting into blanks and turning , I should think that about a quarter to a third of the wood ends up as a bobbin. Cows give off methane (another greenhouse gas) while they are alive, as does any of their remains that end up in landfill, but I don't know what the effect on the carbon cycle of preserving a very small percentage of their bone in the form of bobbins. Along with that, I believe that the dust from turning bone bobbins is more unpleasant/risky than that from bobbins (although that varies from wood to wood, as I discussed with Richard Gravestock at length one day. I think he said that the fruitwoods like apple and plum were among the most dangerous) I too go with wood, although I do like the feel of a good bone bobbin. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Alice and all To make one bone bobbin takes one cow leg, preferably a hind one as the bone is thicker. Normally the thigh bone is used. That's why they are so expensive. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK www.sixpennybobbins.co.uk Alice Howell wrote: This question brought several thoughts to my mind. Yes, trees take longer to grow than a cow, but there's a lot fewer earth resources used in growing a mature speciman. I understand it's harder or messier to turn bobbins from bone than wood. There must be some reason that bone bobbins are so much more expensive than wood bobbins-- either cost/availability of supplies or labor to do it. Also, how many bobbins can be made from the bones of one cow? It takes bone of a certain thickness and not all the bones qualify. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have also heard Stephen Pearce talk. If I remember correctly, thanks to the new regulations about slaughtering animals younger he can get a maximum of 4 bobbins from one leg - if he is lucky. He buys them from a slaughterhous by something like the ton. He has to get the bone marrow out and gets so much that the birds in his vicinity are bored with it :-) When he has finished with a batch of legs he has to pay to have the leftovers taken away. I can't remember what he said about his tools but I seem to think they are slightly different from those used to turn wood. My outstanding memory of his talk is that his bobbins are worth every penny he charges - and I thought you probably had to be lightly mad to work with bone :-) Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Daphne my friend, and all spiders, re bone versus hard wood - I have been told by John Cooper (bobbin maker at your lace day Daphne) that the only bones that you can use are the leg bones so that might make it a little bit harder to get hold of and they take a great deal of preparation prior to turning. My own choice would be bone every time but the cost is usually the deciding factor. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.1/1559 - Release Date: 17/07/2008 18:08 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I love the smooth silky feel of bone bobbins, - but can't afford them very often, unfortunately. Wood - well, I go for the feel of them, and go for the smooth silky feel, if I have a choice. The Acrylic bobbins have the nice feel that I like, too. Isn't it a good thing we all like something different --- or there would only ever be a choice of One! :)) Regards from Liz in Melbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 224 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lace bobbins on Flog It! revisited
-- Initial Header --- but I like to see him do that with 60 pairs, or, indeed what does he think Honiton and Continental lacemakers do? LOL ... does he only know we use different bobbins ? ... LOL experts !! dominique from France - ALICE SECURITE ENFANTS - Protégez vos enfants des dangers d'Internet en installant Sécurité Enfants, le contrôle parental d'Alice. http://www.aliceadsl.fr/securitepc/default_copa.asp - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace bobbins on Flog It! revisited
I've just been eating tea while watching a rerun of the Flog It! programme in which the so-called expert Jethro Marle identified bone bobbins as ivory, and when this was pointed out to him through emails to the BBC, responded with I think I know ivory when I see it. I was obviously so aghast at the time that I didn't notice that he said if you watch lacemakers, it's very intricate so they use the spangles on the ends of the bobbins to identify which threads are to be used in which part of the work! You might be able to track them with about 20 on, but I like to see him do that with 60 pairs, or, indeed what does he think Honiton and Continental lacemakers do? Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lace bobbins on Flog It! revisited
Jean, It has been a rather serious, busy morning. I stopped to read your email about the spangles/tracking threads and the chuckle relieved my tensions...in fact I Ha-Haed out loud. Thanks, I needed that. Susie Johnson Morris, Illinois Where the sun has finally come out to bless the day! Jean said I've just been eating tea while watching a rerun of the Flog It! programme in which the so-called expert Jethro Marle identified bone bobbins as ivory, and when this was pointed out to him through emails to the BBC, responded with I think I know ivory when I see it. I was obviously so aghast at the time that I didn't notice that he said if you watch lacemakers, it's very intricate so they use the spangles on the ends of the bobbins to identify which threads are to be used in which part of the work! You might be able to track them with about 20 on, but I like to see him do that with 60 pairs, or, indeed what does he think Honiton and Continental lacemakers do? Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace bobbins on Flog It! revisited
Don't worry Jean, one of my students spotted that at the first showing and wrote an indignant post, covering both the ivory/bone issue and this very false idea that a profeesional lacemaker would have either the need or the time to be looking at the spangles. She got a slightly less condecending reply than you did; maybe by then they'd had several comments and realised that perhaps we knew more than the expert. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace bobbins on antiques roadshow
The children's version of Antiques Roadshow had some lovely lace bobbins on on Wednesday this week. Unfortunately, the bone ones were described as being made of ivory by the expert on the show! I did email and point this out, including a couple of references, and have had a reply that they will share the information with the expert concerned. Having just looked though, they are still described as made of ivory on the website at http://www.bbc.co.uk/antiques/antiquesroadshow/priceguide/objects/289.shtml I hadn't realised they were on there when I sent my first email. I am however looking forward to the next series (probably February) when there should be some accurate lace information on the programme. If I remember rightly from my visit to the Honiton Lace Museum in Sept, Pat Perryman will be on Antiques Roadshow filmed somewhere not too far from Honiton, with items from the Honiton Lace Museum collection. Karen In Coventry Who was happy to receive lace making bobbins for Christmas. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 30/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 30/12/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace bobbins in Radio Times
This is especially for British lacemakers. Have you bought next week's copy? On page 34, there is a piece on lace bobbins. His valuations are a little low, especially the hanging bobbin.But look at his reason for no spangles on Honiton bobbins. As with 'Flog it' they should check their facts. Sheila in a new sunny Sawbo'. www,lace-helpandhistory.info - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Please tell us what was stated as the reason for no spangles on Honiton Bobbins. I am dying of curiosity. Thanks Susie Johnson Morris, IL. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The Browns Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:39 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] lace bobbins in Radio Times This is especially for British lacemakers. Have you bought next week's copy? On page 34, there is a piece on lace bobbins. His valuations are a little low, especially the hanging bobbin.But look at his reason for no spangles on Honiton bobbins. As with 'Flog it' they should check their facts. Sheila in a new sunny Sawbo'. www,lace-helpandhistory.info - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace bobbins in Radio Times
On 11/22/05, Jenny Barron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apparently the honiton bobbins needed to pass through the fabric! LOL, if a single thread can be defined as 'fabric' (?) they're close (but no prizewinner) g -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, that sounds like they may have checked their facts, but misunderstood the answer. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - On 11/22/05, Jenny Barron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apparently the honiton bobbins needed to pass through the fabric! From: bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] LOL, if a single thread can be defined as 'fabric' (?) they're close (but no prizewinner) g - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace bobbins in Radio Times
Sheila wrote: His valuations are a little low, especially the hanging bobbin.But look at his reason for no spangles on Honiton bobbins. I didn't think it was a bad article overall. Whether the valuation was low or not would depend on whether the valuation was for auction (low), retail (a bit higher) or insurance (much higher). It's not stated. Honiton bobbins passing through the fabric, could be what someone would think they see, especially if motifs were being joined. At least the article was about wood and bone bobbins - not a mention of ivory. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace bobbins on 'Flog-it!
Anyone in the UK watch Flog-it! on BBC2 just now? 72 old lace bobbins (but not necessarily antique) - bone ones described by the expert as ivory. Valued by him as GBP70 - 100. Only reached 40 and didn't sell because the reserve was 70. The majority were fairly simple turned wood, a few with petwer and a few brass bound bone. I'd said to my husband that they wouldn't make 70 as one lot - better to sell them individually or in smaller lots. Just before they were auctioned the presenter (the delicious Paul Martin) said that they were individually turned, only a pound each and they'd cost much more than that to produce today - obviously doesn't know the suppliers we do. The comment from the expert was that it was difficult to sell them because who makes lace these days? I'm about to email them on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to point out that very few ivory ones were made, there are at least a couple of thousand bobbin lacemakers in the UK and thousands more around the world; that lacemaking is thriving, not only as a hobby, but also as a serious form of textile art, with some very talented designers and practitioners. Let's bombard them with emails and get their attention so they realise their error in who makes lace these days?. They might even bring it to the attention of the general public, but I doubt it. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Sharon, I recently had a similar problem. I offered to try to sell several old bobbins for the daughter of a lacemaker who had passed away. I first scanned them, and put pictures on my little website. and told Arachne. I got lots of helpful ansers. Brian Lemin here in Australia, who is somewhat of an expert on old bobbins was able to identify most of them for me. Brian is a member of Arachne - I am sure he would not mind if you contacted him. If you can scan your bobbins and email me pictures, I'd be happy to put them there for you for others to view. Then I offered them a couple at a time on Ebay, and got what I had been told by others on Arachne was the going price for every one of them. You might have a better market, living in Canada with more lacemakers possibly interested. They all went to lacemakers and I was able to tell the daughter (who was quite ill) just where each one went, sometimes with a little story to go with it. All in all, it was a very successful exercise. Noelene in Cooma (I'll be away for three days - 2 at Ulrike Lohr's workshop in Canberra, then an extra day in Canberra at a regular lace meeting - I expect lots of email to check when I get back!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My question now is about bobbins. I know many of you use the spangled ones but I was wondering if anyone uses the square European ones I have seen on some websites. They look like the would resist the rolling problem that has been mentioned and I wonder if they would make a good starter bobbin or what. I see myself as ultimately doing yardage lace for the most part and I don't know if that will make a difference. Hi, Janet, A bit late, sorry, I have been slow reading my emails last week, but I just wanted to tell you that I have started using square continentals after years of using Midlands. I love the spangled bobbins, and I have quite a lot, but now I am getting a bit of rhumatism and RSI in the fingers, and some of them are just awkward to catch. Also, they cannot hold a lot of medium/thicker thread (over DMC 30 cotton), and I use a lot of linen to make yardage, so I find that I can store more on the continentals, they are bigger than the Midlands. I had some normal round continentals before, mostly as show pieces, and I used them when I needed them, but never liked their rolling (I actually noticed that a lot of my antique Le Puy bobbins had been sanded by previous lacemakers on one side at least, indicating taht they must have found them irritating too!!) I discovered some of our Australian bobbinmakers make square continentals, and I bought a few pair to make a particularly long but fairly narrow yardage, and loved them, so I've bought 50 pairs more. I'll see how I go now, I'm sure I'll find some new ones at the AGM this year in Adelaide from different bobbinmakers, I can't buy them all the same, can I? I use them on a travelling roller pillow, but also on a flat pillow with movable squares in the middle part, which you can replace as you go down. They work well in both cases. They do take a bit more room than the Midlands, but I can live with that. If you want to individualize them, you can have things written on the squre part, it's big enough: i.e. birth dates of grand-children, special events...all you need is to know someone who can use a pyrograver, or wood-burning stylus. Yours in lace, Helene, the froggy from Melbourne Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Even though I no longer do the bobbin lace, I have enjoyed keeping on buying some of the different continentals. I always preferred them to the Midlands. I know a lot of people moan about them untwisting the threads, but the best way to stop that is to work the bobbins as you come to them and when you have too many for your hand, just lay them quietly down and put a pin in your pillow to hold them to one side. That stops the unwinding most of the time. I am hoping to get back to working with some of the point ground laces and some of small items. So I won't have to spend too much time and tire my eyes out before I complete something. Roslyn in Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
