[lace] Print on demand very fine pins
Hi Arachnids At last Cathy Barley and I have managed to get Cathyâs needle lace book printed as Print-on Demand, she has just received her first books and they look good. Our printer will scan a previously printed book or work from a pdf of a new one. He will also post books as required and is very helpful and trustworthy. Perhaps now we will be able to get some of those out-of-print books again. Please contact Cathy Barley catherinebar...@btopenworld.com or myself for further information. For those interested in very fine pins I have found a source of entomological pins, Watkins Doncaster www.watdon.co.uk . The pins are 38mm long with nylon heads and are available with diameters 0.25mm upwards in increments of 0.05mm to 0.7mm, the last one being 0.7mm long. I have been using a 0.35 dia pin size 0 for my very fine Bucks Point ref. no. E6861B and although there is a tendency for them to bend, if you use them carefully it is not a problem, and I have not found any other very fine pins of this size. I will be trying the finer pins and let you know how I get on. Do not be tempted to use the cheaper black enamelled pins, I have tested them and they will rust. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Print On Demand books
Hi Catherine, I'm with Liz, your book is a vital resource and should be available for all those wanting to make needle lace. I can't imagine making lace without the help of you book. As an avid and constant user, I think spiral-bound would be great. People keep books for a variety of reasons, all of these are equally valid. It's wonderful that Jeri has her huge collection, beautifully stored and kept. An amazing resource. Me, well, I only use needle lace techniques and I only have 2 lace books :) I have your book and Valerie Grimwood's Needlepoint Lace: A Course for Beginners (both in softcover). I also have a print out of the Irish Lace chapter from Dillmont's Encyclopedia of Needlework. They are in constant use as references and don't even make it to the book shelves. I will even confess to making notes in the margins on the odd occasion and taking them camping!!! Honestly, I'm not a book torturer - I love books and reading - but my lace books are vital tools. Thank you so much, Jen (in Melbourne, Australia - were it's heading for a run of 38+degrees days) On 11 January 2014 10:59, Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com wrote: I vote for Go Ahead Catherine!!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Print On Demand books - Shelving
- Original Message - From: jeria...@aol.com Subject: Re: [lace] Print On Demand books - Shelving All solutions cost money I'd rather spend on a nicely-bound book that will survive a long time. Note: Books that have original jackets are more valuable when resold. You don't want to damage them through neglect Dear Jeri Point taken but the reason for asking whether the preference is for Spiral bound as opposed to Perfect bound is for Print on Demand *Out of Print* books such as my own Needlelace Designs Techniques. We would all prefer a nice hardback copy with dust jacket but the only way one can obtain such a copy is to buy a second-hand copy, and most cannot afford the extortionate prices being asked for these books (let's not get into a discussion as to whether anyone buys them or not - I guess not)! Many out of print lace books are still in great demand and the only way to make them available once again is for the original author to republish themselves. The only way at present it would seem, is to go for POD but they won't be able to risk having print runs done in the thousands, as presumably did the likes of the publisher B T Batsford, who originally published the majority of these lace titles. There is an element of financial risk to the author and the initial financial outlay too. How many should he/she print and how many is he/she likely to sell. This is the only way that those 'newbies' you mention are likely to obtain a copy of these books at an affordable price and this is what we are aiming for. I doubt very much if these lacemakers want to buy a copy as a financial investment but more for the information contained therein. A hardback copy will cost more to produce, it will weigh more, so postage will be more costly. Would the reader prefer an attractive looking Pefect bound copy which will not stay open on a work surface, or settle for a Spiral bound copy which will stay open, will weigh less, so shipping will be less. It seems to me that it will to have to be spiral or nothing! Do I go ahead or forget the whole thing I ask myself? Catherine Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Print On Demand books - Shelving
Dear Cathy In an ideal world we would all like a hardback book which we can store on the shelves correctly as Jeri suggests. But everyone has to be realistic as to what they are prepared to pay/or can afford for their hobbies. They will also have decide whether they have room to store all the books/etc for their hobbies. I personally think you should go ahead and reprint your book, although obviously it has to be financially viable for you.There is new interest in lacemaking now, you only have to look at the number of members of Needlelacetalk and Laceioli to see that. If you really don't want to reprint but want to try and stop your books being sold at exorbitant prices, then, I suppose the only other option is to donate it to Arizona/weaving website so that people can access it for free in the same way that Alex has done for her Tenerife Lace book. Obviously this has to be your decision.Oh what a dilemma, I am glad I don't have to make that decision. Whatever you do decide to do, I do think you need to make a decision, one way or the other for your own piece of mind. Maureen E Yorks UK (where it is currently bright but cold and no rain forecast until Sunday evenng (fingers crossed)) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I vote for Go Ahead Catherine!!! Your book has SO much information in it, and is about the only How To.. book with such clear, detailed instructions in it, for Gros Point, Holly Point, and Point de Gaze. I have not found any other book with those laces featured. We need to keep them alive. I would not be where I am today, with this wonderful craft, without your book. I refer to it regularly. It took me from the near beginners books on to the more advanced laces. I was lucky/Sensible (for once!!!)and bought an original edition - the hard back version, (Well, I got my husband to give it me for Xmas 1995) - and it is one of my Best Buys! Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Print On Demand books - Shelving
Jeri wrote: An additional concern: Some people put books in tote bags with their lace pillows or supplies. If jostled, the spiral and comb bound books are much more likely to damage lace threads! I do carry books and other stuff in my pillow bag, but I always put everything next to the base of the pillow, never on the side where the lace in progress, bobbins and pins are. So that problem never arises. I'd assume that everyone does the same. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Print On Demand books - Shelving
Hi Jean and fellow Arachnids, I certainly keep books etc. at the base of my pillow in the pillow bag; besides that I carry a 'doughnut' pillow on the bobbin side. That protects the bobbins and lace while in transit and provides a softer seating when faced with the awful plastic chairs so often provided in public halls ;-). Happy lace making, Joepie in East Sussex where it is blowing hard and giving squally showers yet again. -Original Message- From: Jean Nathan Jeri wrote: An additional concern: Some people put books in tote bags with their lace pillows or supplies. If jostled, the spiral and comb bound books are much more likely to damage lace threads! I do carry books and other stuff in my pillow bag, but I always put everything next to the base of the pillow . I'd assume that everyone does the same. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Print On Demand books
I personally prefer books, hard or soft cover, with a proper spine so that I can see what is on my shelves, though I appreciate that spiral binding does allow pages to sit flat when the book is open. I second Jacquie's comments about ring binders taking up more space on overcrowded shelves - not to mention the possibility of a page or two being taken out for whatever reason, maybe to make a photocopy (legal for own use!) and then not put back, or simply wear and tear on just two punched holes. A good compromise would be spiral binding with a heavy paper cover which wraps around the binding. I know we have a large road atlas bound like that but it's currently in Terry's car so not available for me to look at but from memory the stiff paper back cover is not perforated, just glued to the back page and then wraps around the binding, with two folds, and then becomes the front cover. I also have one, rather expensive, sewing book which is spiral bound, then there is a one piece card inner cover with two rows of perforations folded into a 'V' inside the spirals, and finally a proper hard cover glued to the inner cover. The book also contains a paper wallet between the last page and the inner cover which holds patterns for the various projects in the book. A not very good photo at: http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/extras.htm Brenda On 7 Jan 2014, at 22:40, laceandbits wrote: If you produce a spiral bound book, please make sure you opt for an extra heavy cover sheet front and back Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Print On Demand books - Shelving
Yes Jean and Joepie, You have been on Arachne and have been making lace for a long time. You have read about all the pillows that have flipped up-side-down through some ridiculous mishap - sometimes a family member or pet. I try to write for everyone on all continents and in various stages of lace making development. That includes our newbies. No matter what way we travel with lace pillows and books in tote bags, there are sudden stops where a pillow may slide off a back seat in a car and flip over to the floor, or head-over-heels from a overhead rack in a train, etc. And if you are struggling to make one trip of getting into a demonstration area with tote bag, pillow stand, a stool to sit on, etc. - accidents happen. That is good reason to send a warning about spiral bound books. There are quite a few spirals on my library shelves, but I dislike them greatly. If they get re-shelved in the wrong space, they are hard to find. If they are thin enough, or small in dimensions, they are put in a plastic pocket. However, the plastic still offers no way to identify the book on shelf at a glance. All solutions cost money I'd rather spend on a nicely-bound book that will survive a long time. Note: Books that have original jackets are more valuable when resold. You don't want to damage them through neglect. I am aware that many people do not have a inventory and shelving system for their books. That is why a spine with the title/author is nice. Of course, with over 4,000 books, I have a inventory system and arrange books according to that system. But -- I had to invest heavily in this, which many people are unable to do either financially, because of limited space in their homes, or because other members of the family object. My book inventory is by author's name first, then title, publisher, publish date, cost, type, ISBN, changed value/year. After looking up author and title, I look at type (lace, embroidery, costume, etc.), go to that section and look alphabetically by author name. The reason I sort by author name has to do with books being re-issued under different titles/publishers. Teachers or authors trying to find a reference in a lace book - a book you cannot get from your public library or local guild - remember you may write directly to me to see if I have that book and can help you. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 1/9/2014, jdhamm...@msn.com writes: I certainly keep books etc. at the base of my pillow in the pillow bag; I carry a 'doughnut' pillow on the bobbin side. That protects the bobbins and lace while in transit and provides a softer seating when faced with the awful plastic chairs so often provided in public halls. Joepie -- From: Jean Nathan I do carry books and other stuff in my pillow bag, but I always put everything next to the base of the pillow... . I'd assume that everyone does the same. Jean Nathan - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Print On Demand books
Hi Arachnids Thank you for your replies regarding spiral bound books and for the recommendation for thicker covers. I will pass that on. to my printer. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] print on demand
As Susan says, quite a few books have changed over... 2 on a 'lacy theme' that spring to mind are Tatting Collage and Mastering Tatting, both by Lindsay Rogers. I have both of these books and they certainly lay relatively flat and are just as easily handled as any other book! The only other 'binding' that I would 'enjoy' is the idea of Ulrike Voelker where she produced the torchon books in ringbinders. This is also extremely useful to the lacemaker as it also lays flat! On demand book publication in A4 or the american equivalent could be good, as the purchaser could provide her own binder then she or he could colour coordinate according to the type of lace inside the folder!! As for Noelene, if you do produce another book Noelene, we all need to know about it and how to get hold of it! Sue in East Yorkshire where it's dryish, sunny and not particularly windy at the moment!! (But don't tell it, otherwise it will revert to 'something horrible'!) On 7 Jan 2014, at 23:48, hottl...@neo.rr.com hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: May I add, the A to Z books have changed over the years from basic spiral bound to spiral bound with a spine cover. This is a much more robust format may solve the issues that Jacquie has identified. My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] print on demand
- Original Message - From: hottl...@neo.rr.com Subject: [lace] print on demand May I add, the A to Z books have changed over the years from basic spiral bound to spiral bound with a spine cover. This is a much more robust format may solve the issues that Jacquie has identified. From the Country Bumpkin website describing their book on Beading: Semi-hardcover, Concealed spiral binding, 228mm x 218mm wide, 128pp Country Bumpkin are a big oganisation and will of course have huge print runs compared to those of us going down the POD route to republish popular out of print lace titles. Cost is the main issue and the books have to be for sale at an affordable price and will naturally be very small print runs, which of course makes them more expensive. A hard cover would be very nice but also expensive, which is why we are all going for paperbacks. My mother always told me as a child when I wanted something It's all very well having champagne tastes but not much good if you only have lemonade money! There are so many pros and cons and with postage being so high for all of us, weight has to be a very serious consideration. It's no use producing a beautifully covered book if everyone is going to complain about the cost of postage. I do have several of the Country Bumpkin spiral bound books with the heavier weight covers but they are not too much thicker than an ordinary laminated paper cover. I am currently waiting for a quote from the printer before I can make the decision to go ahead with my own POD so am naturally very interested in all opinions being currently posted.. However, I have quickly discovered that there is more to this than initially meets the eye and there are restrictions as to what I would like, compared towhat is afforable to all concerned. Catherine Barley Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] print on demand
Sue said The only other 'binding' that I would 'enjoy' is the idea of Ulrike Voelker where she produced the torchon books in ringbinders. This is also extremely useful to the lacemaker as it also lays flat! The main problem with this style for me is that it takes up more room on the shelf. Not only is there the bulk of the binder itself, it also increases the size from standard A4 to A4 plus some top and bottom and extra at the spine for the rings, so it no longer fits on the same shelf with tight A4 book spacing.  A secondary problem is that UK standard two rings don't give the pages anything like the same level of support that spiral bound does and so pages are at more risk of damage. The pages (of my Grounds volumes at least) are punched for multi-ring binders but the only one of those I have I bought in France - chosen for a pretty cover I didn't realise until I was home that it is 4 not 2 rings.  Are they standard on mainland Europe or was this an anomaly?  No doubt they are available in the UK; I'll have to look but I bet they're going to be pricier than a standard two ring binder, and of course that adds to the cost of the book. This is my only gripe about Ulrike's otherwise excellent books, the range of shapes and sizes from thin A5 through A5 height but square, to A4 and on to boxes of loose pricking and unboxed A4 sheets which need a ring binder making them bigger still. As so many of her books cover more than one lace style they are easiest filed together, but the large shelf gap needed for the A4+ ones is wasted on the shorter styles. Also don't forget that although A4 is the European standard both the non-metric USA and the metricated Canada use 'letter' as their default office paper size, so if they can get A4 folders at all, they probably have to pay a premium for them, in the same way we have to here to get anything in 'letter' format. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders
Hello Jacquie and everyone Indeedy, this is the case. I repunched the holes of the first part of Ulrike's Torchon to fit one of our standard North American ring binders; the pages stick out the top but they are useable. The second one is in a proper A4 binder I pinched from work, from the purchasing department. It has stunning photos on the cover of survey instruments made in Germany. At least the pages are useable and protected (and the binder is super sturdy!). I haven't bought part three yet, but a dear friend in Europe contributed a plain binder. I swapped something of equal value including the postage. I recall from our searching high and low that a stationery chain in the US has A4 binders but purchasing was difficult by mail. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:07 AM, laceandbits laceandb...@aol.com wrote: Also don't forget that although A4 is the European standard both the non-metric USA and the metricated Canada use 'letter' as their default office paper size, so if they can get A4 folders at all, they probably have to pay a premium for them, in the same way we have to here to get anything in 'letter' format. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders
In the UK Staples carries both two- and four-ring A4 plain cover binders in two, possibly three thicknesses. Rymans might also carry them. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders
The problem with ring binders is that after a while the pages can 'drop' within the binder and start to pull in the holes causing the to tear. I used to put all the pages into plastic pockets, within the folder to give more stability but then found that the photocopies or printing stuck to the pocket. However, these days I buy archive quality pockets that don't do that but I have a number of prickings where I have had to go over and add back in some dots from the early days. Kind Regards Liz Baker - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Hello All! For Catherine other lace authors, I did not intend to add to your angst over publishing issues! I should have used a different example as I had no idea that Country Bumpkin is a big company. You made me think of two embroidery authors who have self published their coil bound books do not have the covered spine. That said, a quick Google search brought up more results than I could ever read in a day regarding POD coil bindings. One discussion on Create Space Community in 2011 informed me that coil binding requires more labor the unit cost (in 2011 USD) is $1.30 to $2.50 higher. It noted that coil bound books are more difficult to store, display, shrink wrap ship. It would seem that a covered spine would overcome those drawbacks. Another site--Book Patch--specified that the maximum page count for perfect bound books 8.5x11 is 310, all other sizes 880 pages. Spiral binding maximum page count is 880. Perhaps this is another reason why some lace! books are published in odd sizes, in addition to aesthetic reasons? Another site--Formax--mentions short run printing, as in 100 or 1,000 books instead of 10,000. Although they are in the US, there is convenient contact info we ARE a global economy! And what about ebooks? Mary Corbet (www.needlenthread.com) has been using this format, although I don't know to what level of success. Lastly, I would urge our very excellent designers authors to consider Six Degrees of Separation to help solve the puzzle. Networking does work! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation This discussion has allowed our designers/authors to explain the limitations they face but it's also given them valuable customer feedback. Customers want quality ease of use at a reasonable price. The last time this issue was aired, I thought that a consortium of authors had been developed to pool information so that each did not have to plow the same ground. If not I were an author, I would email or phone some POD publishers inquire about a covered spine coil binding. Perhaps a short print run in the US could serve US/Canadian customers, while a publisher in the UK could supply the UK beyond. Best wishes--I truly want you to succeed in publishing your books!! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders - Torn Holes
Dear Liz, Office supply stores have little packages of adhesive-backed round rings (shaped like Life Savers candy, with holes in the middle) made of a non-tear material that you can stick over torn holes to reinforce pages in your lace binders. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center --- In a message dated 1/8/2014 2:15:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, thelace...@btinternet.com writes: The problem with ring binders is that after a while the pages can 'drop' within the binder and start to pull in the holes causing them to tear. Liz Baker - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders - Torn Holes
Ah yes Jeri, Had a bad experience with those in my student days. I spent a whole week adding them to my textbook that came in a ring binder and went to pull it out after the holidays, got it jammed in the bookcase and came away with a ring binder empty of everything but hundreds of reinforcement rings. Probably a once in a lifetime experience but I was traumatised for a ling time afterwards Kind Regards Liz Baker On 8 Jan 2014, at 19:51, jeria...@aol.com wrote: Office supply stores have little packages of adhesive-backed round rings (shaped like Life Savers candy, with holes in the middle) made of a non-tear material that you can stick over torn holes to reinforce pages in your lace binders. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Print On Demand books - Shelving
In a message dated 1/7/2014 5:37:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, laceandb...@aol.com writes: As a teacher carrying books around, I do try to be very careful to give my spiral and comb bound books support from more traditionally bound ones. They are also harder to push into a gap in a very full bookcase! If you produce a spiral bound book, please make sure you opt for an extra heavy cover sheet front and back as this makes a vast difference to both the feel and the durability of the book. Jacquie in Lincolnshire Shelving solutions I have found for spiral shortcomings cost a lot more than would a normal hardback book. An additional concern: Some people put books in tote bags with their lace pillows or supplies. If jostled, the spiral and comb bound books are much more likely to damage lace threads! For spiral, I prefer books that have a hard rounded cover over the spirals. Title can be seen on spine, and nothing to damage adjacent books on the shelf. The Royal School of Needlework has chosen this method of binding for their series of Essential Stitch Guides. (One of these is Stumpwork, a technique that uses needlelace stitches.) Search Press publishes and binds these and a number of other books in this way. They cost about $22 in U.S./Canada, 11 pounds in U.K. There are a lot of people privately publishing books with weak covers that have steeper prices. As a responsible collector of books, I then have to add costly protection so they will not self-destruct. For Ulrike's great variety of book sizes and loose pages, 15 years ago I bought plastic boxes 12 1/2 x 10 x 2 with hinged lids, and stuck her name on the edges that equal book spines. The same are used for Springett's variety of books that are too thin to stand on their own. Alas, this style of box is no longer available. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace Embroidery Resource Center (4,000 books) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] print on demand
I have a notebook which has 5 rings at the top and 9 at the bottom with a space so that a label can be put on the spine. It also has a firm cover and when closed the rings only stick out a little at the back and not at the sides at all, which means it doesn't catch on things when put on a shelf. Because it is rings the pages open flat. You can see an example at the site below - called an Account Record Book (an account of rather than financial accounts). http://www.buyonlinenow.ca/buy/blueline-account-record-book-BLIA7903C01.asp Malvary in Ottawa where it was only -13 today with a wind-chill of -21, but I still have a skating rink for a driveway. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Print On Demand books
For Alex other lace authors, may I cast my vote for spiral bound editions? A growing number of embroidery, beading quilting books are being printed in that format it is much appreciated by those of us who use them. A good example would be the A to Z books by Country Bumpkin. Books lie flat do not need to be propped open--very handy when one is trying to follow the instructions! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Print On Demand books
I enthusiastically agree with this! No breaking spines while trying to photocopy prickings! Clay Sent from my iPad On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:52 PM, hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: For Alex other lace authors, may I cast my vote for spiral bound editions? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Print On Demand books
I certainly agree that Spiral is a great way to go, but unfortunately my digital printer does not offer that option. Perfect binding is the only binding they offer, as a way to keep costs down. I’m working on a pattern book, so if you can suggest a printer please let me know. E. Kurella On Jan 7, 2014, at 3:52 PM, hottl...@neo.rr.com hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: For Alex other lace authors, may I cast my vote for spiral bound editions? A growing number of embroidery, beading quilting books are being printed in that format it is much appreciated by those of us who use them. A good example would be the A to Z books by Country Bumpkin. Books lie flat do not need to be propped open--very handy when one is trying to follow the instructions! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I second this thought. I wish all books would lay flat without having to hold them open by whatever means. Some books won't stay open no matter what you use to prop them open, except to turn them upside down, which is a nuisance when you are trying to follow instructions that need both hands. Marianne Marianne Gallant Vernon, BC www.yarnshop.ca m...@shaw.ca For Alex other lace authors, may I cast my vote for spiral bound editions. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Print On Demand books
Susan said For Alex other lace authors, may I cast my vote for spiral bound editions? . Books lie flat do not need to be propped open--very handy when one is trying to follow the instructions! But I understand that suppliers and librarians aren't so keen on then as they get bent out of shape more easily, and 'sag' when in a bookstand.  And as a teacher carrying books around, I do try to be very careful to give my spiral and comb bound books support from more traditionally bound ones.  They are also harder to push into a gap in a very full bookcase!  There are pluses and minuses to everything in life I guess.  If you produce a spiral bound book, please make sure you opt for an extra heavy cover sheet front and back as this makes a vast difference to both the feel and the durability of the book.  Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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That's a surprise as, here in the States (where I know you live) even OfficeMax, Staples, Kinkos etc offer spiral binding. Two of the difficulties with spiral binding are 1 no spine, so you have to pull them off the shelf to identify which book you want, and 2 the plastic covers can rip off leaving a sharp remnant. Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Kurella Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 4:38 PM To: hottl...@neo.rr.com Cc: lace Subject: Re: [lace] Print On Demand books I certainly agree that Spiral is a great way to go, but unfortunately my digital printer does not offer that option. Perfect binding is the only binding they offer, as a way to keep costs down. I’m working on a pattern book, so if you can suggest a printer please let me know. E. Kurella - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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For Elizabeth, Alex or anyone else planning to self publish--I would most certainly help you if I knew anyone who provided a spiral-bound POD service! My first idea would be to contact the folks at Country Bumpkin--they run a quality operation-- they might be inclined to refer you. My A to Z books are in PA so I can't look for any identifying publisher's marks. Can any of our friends in Australia help? Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA Elizabeth Kurella ekure...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly agree that Spiral is a great way to go, but unfortunately my digital printer does not offer that option. Perfect binding is the only binding they offer, as a way to keep costs down. On Jan 7, 2014, at 3:52 PM, hottl...@neo.rr.com hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: For Alex other lace authors, may I cast my vote for spiral bound editions? A growing number of embroidery, beading quilting books are being printed in that format it is much appreciated by those of us who use them. A good example would be the A to Z books by Country Bumpkin. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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May I add, the A to Z books have changed over the years from basic spiral bound to spiral bound with a spine cover. This is a much more robust format may solve the issues that Jacquie has identified. From the Country Bumpkin website describing their book on Beading: Semi-hardcover, Concealed spiral binding, 228mm x 218mm wide, 128pp Hope this helps. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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The 'Color Works' book by Interweave press is a nice combination - spiral bound inside a hard cover. I can't find a site showing that though Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Have you thought of looking into the possibility of making the book available for download on Kindle, iPhone and eReaders in general - against payment of course. I thought I would plant another seed into your mind :-)) Karen in Malta - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
