[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 QA Administrators qa-ad...@libreoffice.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #19 from QA Administrators qa-ad...@libreoffice.org --- Dear Bug Submitter, Please read this message in its entirety before proceeding. Your bug report is being closed as INVALID due to inactivity and a lack of information which is needed in order to accurately reproduce and confirm the problem. We encourage you to retest your bug against the latest release. If the issue is still present in the latest stable release, we need the following information (please ignore any that you've already provided): a) Provide details of your system including your operating system and the latest version of LibreOffice that you have confirmed the bug to be present b) Provide easy to reproduce steps – the simpler the better c) Provide any test case(s) which will help us confirm the problem d) Provide screenshots of the problem if you think it might help e) Read all comments and provide any requested information Once all of this is done, please set the bug back to UNCONFIRMED and we will attempt to reproduce the issue. Please do not: a) respond via email b) update the version field in the bug or any of the other details on the top section of FDO Message generated on: 2015-02-11 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #18 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com --- (In reply to John Hunter from comment #16) According to Synaptic, I have installed 4.2.7-0Ubuntu complete with complete with the en-uk language pack plus the en-gb and the help-en-gb pack. Ah, okay -- a build from Ubuntu. I have just attempted yet another re-run with the same results. Hmmm. Please try with a TDF-created build. It's possible that we're seeing a problem that only exists with the downstream versions: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO CC||qu...@runcibility.com Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #13 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com --- (In reply to John Hunter from comment #0) Problem description: The letter wizard produces an inappropriate letter header (addresses etc) for en-uk. In particular, the address seems to be all in one line and the UK post code is completely mangled Steps to reproduce: 1. Open a blank text document (you can run the wizard without even opening a Text document :-) 2. Select wizard - letter 3. Select recipient and sender; type in name and address: There are a lot of options before one add a recipient and sender. Based on the comments, choosing the default: - Business letter - Elegant (click 'Next') - Select the items to be printed: going with defaults again (click 'Next') ...Select recipient and sender; type in name and address: (name) J.M.D. Hunter (addr) Greenwood, Lynn Lane, Shenstone, Lichfield (post code1) WS14 (post code2) 2PQ (county) Staffordshire (post to) Using this data for the Sender, and keeping the default use placeholders for recipient's address I don't see boxes for Post Code or Post To. I just have Name/Street/ZIP code/State/City. Perhaps you're using a UK Localization? Current behavior: The boxes are totally wrong for the UK; the post to field is meaningless in this context; there is no field for a telephone number; the address is output in tiny script on a single line This all seems plausible, but I can't reproduce the same interface and input boxes. Please let us know your locale, and if there were any other steps I've missed in my reproduction attempt above. Status - NEEDINFO (please change status back to UNCONFIRMED after you've provided the information) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598
John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com changed:
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--- Comment #14 from John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com ---
I have reloaded the en-uk locale (just in case it became corrupted).
Select 'Formal Personal Letter' \\ Page design 'Elegent'
('Letterhead' and 'Recipient and Sender' both greyed out -- the latter should
be 'Sender and Addressee' in the UK!)
'Next' takes you directly to 'Printed Items'. The list of items does not
include: 'Addressee in envelope window' nor any mention of the Sender's
address.
'Next' takes one to the save to file page.
When one opens the template it is unuseful. Addresses still have City,
State, Zip code -- in the UK we talk about Town, \\ County, \\ Post Code all
on separate lines.
If it would help, I can send you a LaTeX 'ukletter.sty' file which I use. The
sty file is not perfect; I am in the act of adding options which allow for
multiple references. If you need any further detail, please let me know.
John Hunter
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598
Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
Ever confirmed|0 |1
--- Comment #15 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com ---
Still testing on LO 4.4.0.0.beta2 + Ubuntu 14.04
(In reply to John Hunter from comment #14)
I have reloaded the en-uk locale (just in case it became corrupted).
I installed the UK Help and Lang packs, and enabled them via:
Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages - Language Of
1) User interface - English (UK)
2) Locale setting - English (UK)
Select 'Formal Personal Letter' \\ Page design 'Elegent'
('Letterhead' and 'Recipient and Sender' both greyed out -- the latter
should be 'Sender and Addressee' in the UK!)
'Next' takes you directly to 'Printed Items'. The list of items does not
include: 'Addressee in envelope window' nor any mention of the Sender's
address.
'Next' takes one to the save to file page.
When one opens the template it is unuseful. Addresses still have City,
State, Zip code -- in the UK we talk about Town, \\ County, \\ Post Code
all on separate lines.
NOREPRO -- I now have the following:
Forename Surname
Company
Street
Post Town County Postcode
Are you sure that you have the UK help and lang packs completely installed?
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #16 from John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com --- According to Synaptic, I have installed 4.2.7-0Ubuntu complete with complete with the en-uk language pack plus the en-gb and the help-en-gb pack. I have just attempted yet another re-run with the same results. John Hunter -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #17 from John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com --- Just to add a comment to Comment 15: Post Town is embedded in the Post code and in most cases it will be different from the Address Town. For example, my address is Middle Cottage, Downington, Lechlade, Glos GL7 3DL; I live in Lechlade and that is where I would like my mail delivered; the post town is GLoucester where the sorting used to take place --- sorting is now done by machinery in another town, Swindon. It would be less confusing for UK users if Post Town were to be replaced by Town. The British addressing system goes back almost as far as Doomsday; an attempt to formalise it was made around the time of Henry VIII when he formally set up the Royal Mail. In 1840, addressing had to be sort of standardised with the increase in traffic as a result of the introduction of the penny post. The last major rationalisation was in the 1960's with the introduction of Post Codes; this was followed by the redrawing of county boundaries in 1974. By now the new order is fully accepted. Any deviation of the accepted standard is considered archaic or even impolite! John Hunter -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 Beluga todven...@suomi24.fi changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED CC||todven...@suomi24.fi Ever confirmed|1 |0 --- Comment #11 from Beluga todven...@suomi24.fi --- Should be UNCONFIRMED. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #12 from John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com --- I have already posted that NEEDINFO is rather vague. I have already broadly described the shortcomings of the present wizard. I have tried again with V4.2.7.2 (Build: 420m0(Build 2)) and have failed to see any significant difference. What other info do you need? I have also tried to find out if there is some intermediate meta-language or notation so that I can can construct a prototype UK letter template/wizard without success. THe ball is in your court. John Hunter -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #10 from John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com --- For the QA team: What changes, if any, have been made to the letter wizard between v4.1.3.3 and v4.1.4.2? From experience, attempting to load versions of LOffice directly, bypassing a Debian repository, end in disaster and requiring effort to restabilise the system after; so, I do not do that any more. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #8 from QA Administrators qa-ad...@libreoffice.org --- Dear Bug Submitter, This bug has been in NEEDINFO status with no change for at least 6 months. Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and mark the bug as UNCONFIRMED. Due to regular bug tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDINFO status with no change in 30 days the QA team will close the bug as INVALID due to lack of needed information. For more information about our NEEDINFO policy please read the wiki located here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/FDO/NEEDINFO If you have already provided the requested information, please mark the bug as UNCONFIRMED so that the QA team knows that the bug is ready to be confirmed. Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone! Warm Regards, QA Team -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #9 from John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com --- I have managed to replicate the shortcomings of the letter wizard with Version 4.1.3.2. The letter wizard, as currently available, is totally inappropriate for both formal and informal letters written to United Kingdom conventions. Just to list a few: (1) The wizard does not seem to be conscious of page size; (2) There is no plain page design. Little pictures on a letter is naff! (3) The template for the layout of a UK address and, in particular, the form and positioning of the post code (zip code on the other side of the Atlantic) is wrong. (4) The present wizard's idea of a date format is a valid UK date format; however the use of this shortened date format is inapropriate; the preferred format is dd Month , e.g. 17 June 2014 or 17th June 2014. The purpose of a wizard is to help the user to format a letter correctly. As the wizard is configured at the moment, I cannot use LibreOffice to write a letter. I have to resort to Latex. My original enquiry was: is there a meta-language I could use to generate a useful UK letter wizard. The informal response was to raise a bug. The current wizard is so badly flawed, I believe that a UK one needs to be written from scratch. The NEEDINFO status would seem to imply that you need more information. To put it in a nutshell, the wizard, as it stands, is not fit for purpose. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #4 from tommy27 ba...@quipo.it --- (In reply to comment #3) Sorry, I do not understand the Question. Version 4.1.4.27 of what? John Hunter LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 of course. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #5 from John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com --- On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 08:13 +, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org wrote: Comment # 4 on bug 66598 from tommy27 (In reply to comment #3) Sorry, I do not understand the Question. Version 4.1.4.27 of what? John Hunter LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 of course. __ You are receiving this mail because: * You reported the bug. Sorry. But you original e-mail only had a bug no as a reference. It did not have any reference to Libre Office that I could see; I took it to be a KDE bug number. I could have been a Debian or an Ubuntu bug number. A little more context would have saved a lot of frustration and confusion. John Hunter -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #6 from tommy27 ba...@quipo.it --- the problem is that you should reply to the bugzilla page which is the one you can access at this URL where all the informations are available: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598#add_comment please do not reply directly by your mailer but rather go to the webpage -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #7 from John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com --- On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 08:13 +, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org wrote: Comment # 4 on bug 66598 from tommy27 (In reply to comment #3) Sorry, I do not understand the Question. Version 4.1.4.27 of what? John Hunter LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 of course. __ You are receiving this mail because: * You reported the bug. The short answer is I have no idea. I am using LO 3.5.7.2. Upgrading out of Ubuntu/Debian seems to cause other problems. Has there been any attempt to differentiate between English US and English UK styles? Do you even know what an English UK formal letter should look like? (The Redmond concept would appear to be flawed.) My formal education (Private school Cambridge University) told me that a formal letter should be laid out according to the pattern indicated in the attached document. See also the notes below. 1. In a formal letter, the date format should be: dd Month . 2. A formal letter should be written on A4 paper (formally Foolscap). 3. Paper sizes for personal letters are usually Quarto and Octavo (254x203mm and 203x127mm) which are the sizes of the traditionally available pads of writing paper; it is considered impolite to write to a close friend or relation on A4 -- rather like texting in UPPER CASE from a mobile phone. I hope that this helps. John Hunter -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 tommy27 ba...@quipo.it changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ba...@quipo.it --- Comment #1 from tommy27 ba...@quipo.it --- is issue still there with 4.1.4.2? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 Foss f...@openmailbox.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #2 from Foss f...@openmailbox.org --- Setting to NEEDINFO until tommy27's ping is answered. After providing the requested info, please reset this bug to UNCONFIRMED. Thanks :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 66598] UI: Letter Wizard
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66598 --- Comment #3 from John Hunter jmd...@btinternet.com --- On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 00:28 +, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org wrote: tommy27 changed bug 66598 What Removed Added CC ba...@quipo.it Comment # 1 on bug 66598 from tommy27 is issue still there with 4.1.4.2? __ You are receiving this mail because: * You reported the bug. Sorry, I do not understand the Question. Version 4.1.4.27 of what? About shisen-sho delivers: Version 1.8.4 Using KDE Development Platform 4.8.5 (4.8.5) Does that help? John Hunter -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
