Re: laptop

2006-12-30 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 08:51 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote:
 On 29/12/06, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - IBM (note: Not the new lenovo junk!)
 
 Do others agree that Lenovo != IBM? 
 
 
 I'm not a laptops expert but was considering to look at some Lenovo
 stuff based on the great Linux support by IBM laptops. 
 
The Thinkpad series still works as it were before - I don't know for how
long, but I hope that Lenovo won't kill a winning horse.

The Lenovo 3000 series also works rather well, but people are having
issues with sound supports (ICH8 - external speakers aren't turned off
when headphones are plugged in), screen resolutions (i945 - can't enable
native 1280x900 resolution in X, always goes back to 1024x768) and
camera (doesn't work at all, but its still better then the Thinkpad that
doesn't have a camera).

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Re: laptop

2006-12-30 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Hi,


Do others agree that Lenovo != IBM?


The team that was designing and developing the thinkpad series has
been sold to Lenovo. Lenovo was already manufacturing the Thinkpad for
IBM before Lenovo bought IBM Thinkpad Division.

The 3000 V100 series is their move away from the R series (Value) to
something which doesn't resemble the thinkpad line. You can see that
in term of design it looks totally different from the Thinkpad models.

Lenovo had decided that the 3000 series would be for more private/home
users while the Thinkpad line (T, X) will be for corporate users and
that the corporate models will have the IBM logo and the same design
remains. For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30,
X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys, they
modified the power connector (no more backward compatibility), but a
simple look from a distant, and you know it's Thinkpad.

In terms of service, nothing has been changed. IBM Israel repairs
their machines, and IBM Service in Israel is WAY WAY better then
anything else is period! I would definatly not recommend going with
HP, as their service simply sucks big time (unless it's their precioud
servers, which is served by a totally different unit).


I'm not a laptops expert but was considering to look at some Lenovo stuff
based on the great Linux support by IBM laptops.


I would recommend (depends on your budget) to go with Thinkpad R50 or
R60 series (or if you can afford youself - the T50 or T60 series or
X60). You can save few thousand shekels with the competitors, but you
WILL pay those shekels back when you'll need to either upgrade or fix
this notebook. Been there over 4 times already.

Thanks,
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Re: laptop

2006-12-30 Thread Alex Alexander

I have an HP NC8000 Notebook that works flawlessly with linux.

It uses an atheros based wifi card that requires the free madwifi module.
Ubuntu has it preinstalled, debian has a source package (madwifi-source) you
can download and build with the debian package tools.

Everything else works out of the box.

The only thing I haven't tried to use yet is the 56K modem, but I don't need
it anyway

So +1 for HP from me :)

Alex

On 12/30/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Lenovo != IBM in the sense that IBM is no longer in control. The factory
is the same (in theory). In practice, things may have changed (not
necessarily to the worse, quality control wise):

http://www.namedevelopment.com/articles/NYTimesLenovoNmeChng120404.html
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1374143,00.html
http://uk.gizmodo.com/2006/05/19/

Peter


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Re: laptop

2006-12-30 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Hi Oded,


The Lenovo 3000 series also works rather well, but people are having
issues with sound supports (ICH8 - external speakers aren't turned off
when headphones are plugged in), screen resolutions (i945 - can't enable
native 1280x900 resolution in X, always goes back to 1024x768) and
camera (doesn't work at all, but its still better then the Thinkpad that
doesn't have a camera).


The Thinkpad series is aimed to the corporate usage, starting from the
low end (R), goes to mainstream workers (T) and all the way to the top
(X). The features that the Thinkpad has are more or less dictated by
the customers and it seems Lenovo goes really slow here when it comes
to change the Thinkpad series. You can see for example the lack of
firewire in the thinkpad, as well as the weird issue that even a brand
new thinkpad (T,X) (well, at least up to T50) has ... a parallel port.
Why? corporates wanted it..

Firewire, integrated cam, weird resolutions are nice things to have
for the private consumer, not for the corporate suits, so they appear
in the 3000 series.

Thanks,
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Re: laptop

2006-12-30 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:20 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30,
 X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys

I'm using a T43, which sadly lacks the windows and menu keys - they're
ton useful, I always need more shift states, and when I don't have an
external keyboard I have to make do with only 3 :-(

 I would recommend (depends on your budget) to go with Thinkpad R50 or
 R60 series (or if you can afford youself - the T50 or T60 series or
 X60). You can save few thousand shekels with the competitors, but you
 WILL pay those shekels back when you'll need to either upgrade or fix
 this notebook. Been there over 4 times already.

R50 sells for as low as 4000 NIS, which is a great price for a laptop no
matter how you look at it.

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Re: OpenOffice Hebrew encoding

2006-12-30 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Thanks for the two replies I got, but unfortunately, neither of them solves 
the problem. In case I wasn't clear in my earlier post, let me clarify.

I have 3 Mandriva boxes - 1 is 2006 and 2 are 2007. On the 2006 box I have OOo 
2.0 - build 8990 and on the 2007 boxes OOo 2.0.3 (from the install DVD). I 
have Hebrew capability on all 3 installations of OOo. BUT, on one of the 2007 
boxes I can only see Hebrew using CLM fonts. 

Let me say again that I CAN see all the Hebrew fonts in the selection list on 
all machines.

I can't find any relevant difference in what I installed on the three 
machines.

On Friday 29 December 2006 17:57, Ori Idan wrote:
 Check font translation, make sure that David is translated to David CLM.
I don't have font translation enabled on any of the 3 installations, so since 
I have no problems with Hebrew on the other machines, I don't believe this to 
be the problem. 

 Also, install msttcorefonts.
Here too, I don't have msttcorefonts installed on ANY of the machines. That 
shouldn't be necessary in the first place since I imported Windows fonts. And 
agai, on 2 machines I have no problem.

 On 12/29/06, Micha Feigin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  possibly the locale settings? Try in a console to see if what $LANG is set
I don't see why this would be relevant, but I did check and on all 3 boxes 
LANG is en_US.UTF-8.

There's only one difference I could see that **might** be relevant, although I 
doubt it. On the **problem** machine I have many more font packages installed 
than on the other 2 machines. Is it possible that there is some conflict?

On one of the **good** machines:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -qa|grep fonts|more
ghostscript-fonts-8.11-5mdk
fonts-ttf-dejavu-2.9-1mdv2007.0
fonts-ttf-decoratives-1.3-15mdk
fonts-ttf-west_european-1.3-15mdk
mkfontscale-1.0.1-3mdv2007.0
xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts-7.1.0-6mdv2007.0
fslsfonts-1.0.1-3mdv2007.0
xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts-7.1.0-6mdv2007.0
fonts-type1-hebrew-0.101-2mdk
urw-fonts-2.0-16.1mdk

and on the **problem** machine:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -qa|grep font
x11-font-sony-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
libxfont1-1.1.0-4.1mdv2007.0
x11-font-cursor-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-bh-ttf-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
libfontenc1-1.0.2-2mdv2007.0
x11-font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-dec-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-wqy-bitmapfont-1.0-0.20060916.2mdv2007.0
xfontsel-1.0.1-5mdv2007.0
xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts-7.1.0-6mdv2007.0
libxfontcache1-devel-1.0.2-2mdv2007.0
x11-font-arabic-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-jis-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-alias-1.0.1-8mdv2007.0
libfontconfig1-2.4.1-1mdv2007.0
x11-font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
libfontconfig1-devel-2.4.1-1mdv2007.0
fonts-type1-hebrew-0.101-2mdk
xlsfonts-1.0.1-3mdv2007.0
x11-font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-encodings-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
mkfontscale-1.0.1-3mdv2007.0
fonts-hebrew-elmar-3.3-9mdk
fonts-ttf-west_european-1.3-15mdk
x11-font-micro-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
fontconfig-2.4.1-1mdv2007.0
xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts-7.1.0-6mdv2007.0
x11-font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
fonttosfnt-1.0.1-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-xfree86-type1-1.0.0-5mdv2007.0
x11-font-misc-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-util-1.0.1-3mdv2007.0
chkfontpath-1.10.0-2mdk
libfontenc1-devel-1.0.2-2mdv2007.0
x11-font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-bh-type1-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-type1-1.0.0-3mdv2007.0
showfont-1.0.1-3mdv2007.0
x11-font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-isas-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-cyrillic-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1-4mdv2007.0
libxfontcache1-1.0.2-2mdv2007.0
x11-font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
font-tools-0.1-13mdk
fonts-ttf-freefont-20040828-5mdv2007.0
fonts-ttf-bitstream-vera-1.10-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts-7.1.0-6mdv2007.0
urw-fonts-2.0-16.1mdk
x11-font-mutt-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
fslsfonts-1.0.1-3mdv2007.0
fonts-ttf-decoratives-1.3-15mdk
x11-font-misc-1.0.0-3mdv2007.0
x11-font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
x11-font-ibm-type1-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
mkfontdir-1.0.2-2mdv2007.0
x11-font-sun-misc-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
fonts-ttf-dejavu-2.9-1mdv2007.0
x11-font-misc-meltho-1.0.0-4mdv2007.0
tv-fonts-1.1-6mdv2007.0
ghostscript-fonts-8.11-5mdk
libxfont1-devel-1.1.0-4.1mdv2007.0







  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shlomo Solomon
  Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:05 AM
  To: linux-il@linux.org.il
  Subject: OpenOffice Hebrew encoding
 
  This is probably trivial, but I haven't been able to find it.
 
  On a new install of OpenOffice on Mandriva 

Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters

2006-12-30 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On 12/27/06, Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I also would like to solve this at the X level.
I think you could create a new XKB il mapping where holding Ctrl or Alt
is a modifier that activates the 1st shift group. It shouldn't be too hard.
It's funny how I never got to it.



Just for the record, I've tried today to define such an XKB keymap, without
sucess. I've tried both defining it in terms of compat mappings (but they
only allow you to map a key + a modifier to an action, not any key + a
modifier) and in terms of symbols mappings (by changing the mapping of,
say, LALT to map to actions[Group1] = { SetGroup(1), SetGroup(1) ]).

So far, it looks like this is a problem that have to be solved in each and
every X client (on the toolkit level, obviously).


Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters

2006-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 30/12/06, Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I also would like to solve this at the X level.

 I think you could create a new XKB il mapping where holding Ctrl or Alt
is a modifier that activates the 1st shift group. It shouldn't be too hard.
It's funny how I never got to it.


Just for the record, I've tried today to define such an XKB keymap, without
sucess. I've tried both defining it in terms of compat mappings (but they
only allow you to map a key + a modifier to an action, not any key + a
modifier) and in terms of symbols mappings (by changing the mapping of,
say, LALT to map to actions[Group1] = { SetGroup(1), SetGroup(1) ]).

So far, it looks like this is a problem that have to be solved in each and
every X client (on the toolkit level, obviously).



Thanks for the effort. Do you have any links for information on how to
make such a keymap for KDE? I've been googling this, and I cannot find
anything relevant.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters

2006-12-30 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On 12/30/06, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks for the effort. Do you have any links for information on how to
make such a keymap for KDE? I've been googling this, and I cannot find
anything relevant.



There's nothing KDE-specific about XKB keymaps. There are also no GUI tools
to produce them. For information about the XKB layouts concepts and syntax
(which is a pretty complicated subject), see Ivan Pascal's reference on the
subject:
http://pascal.tsu.ru/en/xkb/


Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters

2006-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 30/12/06, Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 12/30/06, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the effort. Do you have any links for information on how to
 make such a keymap for KDE? I've been googling this, and I cannot find
 anything relevant.


There's nothing KDE-specific about XKB keymaps. There are also no GUI tools
to produce them. For information about the XKB layouts concepts and syntax
(which is a pretty complicated subject), see Ivan Pascal's reference on the
subject:
http://pascal.tsu.ru/en/xkb/



Thanks for that. I'll spend some quality time with that site, and see
what I come up with.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: Israel TV

2006-12-30 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Thu, 28 Dec:
 On 28/12/06, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 anyone got more illegal links to post to the list? :-)
 
 
 Sorry, I wasn't aware that there is anything illegal about these links. I
 got them from a Tapuz Forum post, where Tapuz is particularly touchy about
 putting anything illegal (or even matters like criticizing commercial
 companies by disappointed customers) on its forums.

I'm quite positive none of these links are legally rebroadcasting any of
the said stations. linking is legal I guess, for now, in Israel (it
isn't by American law), as long as you are not the one actually
providing the service.

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Re: Israel TV

2006-12-30 Thread Amos Shapira

On 31/12/06, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Thu, 28 Dec:
 On 28/12/06, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 anyone got more illegal links to post to the list? :-)



the said stations. linking is legal I guess, for now, in Israel (it


Good - so I haven't broken the law, have I?

Happy new year...

--Amos


Re: Israel TV

2006-12-30 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Amos Shapira wrote:
 On 31/12/06, *Ira Abramov* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Thu, 28 Dec:
  On 28/12/06, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  anyone got more illegal links to post to the list? :-) 


 the said stations. linking is legal I guess, for now, in Israel (it 


 Good - so I haven't broken the law, have I?

 Happy new year...
If I remember correctly, linking is not legal in Australia. I actually
think the USA has not yet fully decided whether it's legal or not
 --Amos
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