Re: Booting linux from windows over net (was: Re: Simulating PXE boot?)

2007-01-24 Thread Amos Shapira

On 24/01/07, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


2007/1/24, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I've just realized that maybe the original subject was wrong and
 therefore pointed repliers to the wrong direction. What I was after is to
 actually be able to run something under Win98 which will start the boot
 sequence of Linux over the network and end up with NFS-root. So far it looks
 like LTSP and maybe loadlin can help me achieve that.

 On 24/01/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ha :) This laptop is so old that it doesn't have an integrated network
 card - the net card is a PCMCIA 10/100 addition I bought her around 2003.


IIRC etherboot does not support PCMCIA. It might (low chances) support
USB.



Dully noted. Will try to continue down the LTSP path later tonight.

AS I SAID BEFORE it might but it involves a reboot, strictly speaking.

  Once inside a system there is no way to change to another system
  without


 Bzzt. Wrong answer - Win98 is actually DOS, which uses real mode[1],
 so things like loadlin (which was probably what I was looking for when
 asking my first question) are possible.


No, that's not true. Win98 is not DOS. It does use protected mode,
although in some obscure way - IIRC only to separate the OS and the
processes, not to separate the processes themselves. In any case, that's not
the point IMO. The point is caching. The reason you want a real clean reboot
is in order to allow the OS to cleanly flush the caches (and do an
equivalent of umount - not sure exactly what win98 does in this regard).



Care to comment to the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Me#Last_DOS_based_Windows

Windows Me is the last version of a DOS-based Windows OS.

Windows Me is listed in Wikipedia as the successor to Win98 so...

And as a DOS-based system, as far as I remember it didn't provide OS-level
disk write caching.

What I think might be the best for you, considering your PCMCIA card and the

fact you do not want a menu on boot:
Write some set of batch files, that will do the following: When she
chooses to start linux (probably some desktop shortcut to a batch file
you'll write), the file will connect to the linux server (by tftp or some
other way - maybe wget etc.), download a kernel and initrd, and will put
them in some convenient place ( e.g. C:\linux), removing old versions
first (to allow seamless upgrades controlled from the server), and will
change the boot sequence (probably autoexec.bat or some file it will call
or something) to do two things: first restore the normal boot sequence,
then start linux (using loadlin). Note that during the running of
autoexec.bat you are still in real mode, no caching etc., so it's safe to
do. Then reboot (I mean, the first script will then reboot). I did not write
this very clearly but I hope you understand.



Yes, I got you. I'm still not sure all this is required instead of just a
simple loadlin but I take you as someone with more experience with that than
me.

Cheers,

--Amos


Re: Experience with Scmbug?

2007-01-24 Thread Maxim Veksler

On 1/24/07, Lior Okman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Amos Shapira wrote:
 Hi,

 Does anyone here had/heard experience with Scmbug?
 (http://www.mkgnu.net/?q=taxonomy/term/1)

My company uses this tool with Subversion and Bugzilla.

We're actually pretty satisfied with it. It's easy to setup on Debian,
easy to maintain, and simply works with the Bugzilla and Subversion that
come with Debian.

 It appears to be a generic interface to integrate issue tracking
 systems ( i.e. the Bugzilla's of the world) with version control
 systems (the CVS's, SVN's of the world).

 I plan to join an environment which already uses Bugzilla and I plan
 to offer integration of Subversion into this, so Trac is apparently
 not an option (is Trac better than Scmbug?).

 Thanks,

 --Amos

Lior




Same here.

Note that security is not the bright side of this script, it come with
default setup to listen on TCP *:3872 and will react on the input
without any method of authorization, meaning you need to be sure you
block this port in with iptables or better yet set the daemon to
listen only on localhost.

Other then the above it's a great tool, and works well. Note that the
format of the comment should be bug:
-your-comment-to-bug-zilla-goes-here-, also what doesn't seem to be
that obvious in first glance is that scmbug won't close your bugs, it
will merely add comments to existing bugs leaving the confirmation job
to the human side of the keyboard.

HTH

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Re: Booting linux from windows over net (was: Re: Simulating PXE boot?)

2007-01-24 Thread Peter




 On 24/01/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ha :) This laptop is so old that it doesn't have an integrated network
 card - the net card is a PCMCIA 10/100 addition I bought her around 2003.


No- Ha ;) I did not write this. I am not the guy with the laptop

Peter

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Re: Experience with Scmbug?

2007-01-24 Thread Amos Shapira

On 24/01/07, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Same here.

Note that security is not the bright side of this script, it come with
default setup to listen on TCP *:3872 and will react on the input
without any method of authorization, meaning you need to be sure you
block this port in with iptables or better yet set the daemon to
listen only on localhost.

Other then the above it's a great tool, and works well. Note that the
format of the comment should be bug:
-your-comment-to-bug-zilla-goes-here-, also what doesn't seem to be
that obvious in first glance is that scmbug won't close your bugs, it
will merely add comments to existing bugs leaving the confirmation job
to the human side of the keyboard.



Thanks for the heads up. From a cursory glance through the docs it looks
like the auto-bug-closing (or actually automatic push of a bug from worked
on to test) could be achieved if the right hook is added...

Anyone care to comment how it compares with Trac? (I know Trac can't work
with Bugzilla and has its own issue tracking system, maybe if it's worth it
I'll manage to push it over Bugzilla still).

Cheers,

--Amos


Re: Booting linux from windows over net (was: Re: Simulating PXE boot?)

2007-01-24 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David

2007/1/24, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




  On 24/01/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ha :) This laptop is so old that it doesn't have an integrated
network
  card - the net card is a PCMCIA 10/100 addition I bought her around
2003.

No- Ha ;) I did not write this. I am not the guy with the laptop



Yes, sorry. I actually write this from gmail, after moving out of tau (and
using my email address there for 14 years or so). I decided to give gmail a
try, before I give up and go back to mutt, where these kinds of things tend
to work better, at least for me.
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version control wiki

2007-01-24 Thread Shahar Dag
Hi Everyone



I am not sure if I should mail this only to linux-il. I apology if you gets 
this mail twice.

 

I would like to here your advice

 

I am the administrator or the System  Software Development Laboratory (SSDL) 
in the computer science department at the Technion.

I have a RHEL 4 application server. The server can be accesses via ssh from 
everywhere (meaning outside of the Technion). We would like to add 2 additional 
services to our users: version control (including web interface)  wiki. The 
access to the new services can be from everywhere. Some of the data will have 
anonymous read access but most of it will require authentication for read  
write.

 

  1.. Can you recommend a good implementation of version control  wiki (we 
would like to use free software)
  2.. From a security point of view, what is the risk of installing the version 
control  wiki on the application server? Do you recommend to install the wiki 
on a separate machine and expose (maybe for read only) the files from the 
version control to the wiki machine? Do you have any better system architecture?
  3.. Can you recommend on raid controller for Linux. I will probably use 2-3 
SATA disks
 

Thanks

Shahar Dag

System  Software Development Laboratory (SSDL)
Computer Science Department
Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
Haifa, Israel
Tel. 972-4-8294880
Fax 972-4-8293900
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If you have any that you don’t need please send me mail

 
Thanks
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Re: version control wiki

2007-01-24 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007, Shahar Dag wrote about version control  wiki:
   1.. Can you recommend a good implementation of version control  wiki (we 
 would like to use free software)

I am not aware of a version control + wiki combination (but maybe someone can
correct me?), so you will have to choose each one separately.

For version control, I would recommend Subversion. It is very similar in
its basic philosophy to CVS, but it's simply better in many ways (I'm
sure that Google can return heaps of comparisons of Subversion to every
other version control system under the sun).

For Wiki, I don't have any experiance of actually *installing* such a system,
but from a user's perspective, I'd recommend MediaWiki, because it has the
most familar syntax (at least to the hundreds of thousands of people which
contribute to Wikipedia).


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Re: version control wiki

2007-01-24 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David

2007/1/24, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Wed, Jan 24, 2007, Shahar Dag wrote about version control  wiki:
   1.. Can you recommend a good implementation of version control  wiki
(we would like to use free software)

I am not aware of a version control + wiki combination (but maybe someone
can
correct me?), so you will have to choose each one separately.



I did not work with it myself, but trac is both a wiki and a project
management tool that interfaces to subversion.
I did see it used in various sites I stumbled upon, have read a bit about
it, and it seems interesting.
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Re: [Haifux] Re: version control wiki

2007-01-24 Thread Diego Iastrubni
TRAC, only trac.

It integrates bugzilla(like)+svn+wiki in one tight nice integration. When you 
start using it, everything else just stinks.


ביום רביעי 24 ינואר 2007, 11:27, נכתב על ידי Nadav Har'El:
 On Wed, Jan 24, 2007, Shahar Dag wrote about version control  wiki:
1.. Can you recommend a good implementation of version control  wiki
  (we would like to use free software)

 I am not aware of a version control + wiki combination (but maybe someone
 can correct me?), so you will have to choose each one separately.

 For version control, I would recommend Subversion. It is very similar in
 its basic philosophy to CVS, but it's simply better in many ways (I'm
 sure that Google can return heaps of comparisons of Subversion to every
 other version control system under the sun).

 For Wiki, I don't have any experiance of actually *installing* such a
 system, but from a user's perspective, I'd recommend MediaWiki, because it
 has the most familar syntax (at least to the hundreds of thousands of
 people which contribute to Wikipedia).

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ubuntu parallel of rpmbuild

2007-01-24 Thread Erez D

whats the parallel of 'rpmbuild --rebuild a.src.rpm' in debian (ubuntu edgy)
?


Re: Experience with Scmbug?

2007-01-24 Thread Lior Okman
Amos Shapira wrote:
 On 24/01/07, *Lior Okman* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Amos Shapira wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Does anyone here had/heard experience with Scmbug?
  (http://www.mkgnu.net/?q=taxonomy/term/1)

 My company uses this tool with Subversion and Bugzilla.

 We're actually pretty satisfied with it. It's easy to setup on Debian,
 easy to maintain, and simply works with the Bugzilla and
 Subversion that
 come with Debian.


 Thanks!

 So do you feel it really provides an advantage in integration of the
 two systems?
Yes, if you set it up so that the users in Bugzilla are LDAP based, and
Subversion requires authentication for any non-view actions.

SCMBug makes it easy to track what commit touched which bug, and
prevents user A from committing against user B's bugs, and the comment
you use when you commit changes to Subversion are available in the bug
report itself in Bugzilla along with the modified/affected files.

All in all - once you get used to it, it's very hard to let go.

Lior

 Cheers,

 --Amos


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Re: [Haifux] Re: version control wiki

2007-01-24 Thread Jacob Broido

I second that one, TRAC!

This suite is just brilliant: wiki,svn,project management, bugtask
management, extendable and pluggable, not bloated..

Go with TRAC and you'll never look back.

On 1/24/07, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


TRAC, only trac.

It integrates bugzilla(like)+svn+wiki in one tight nice integration. When
you
start using it, everything else just stinks.


ביום רביעי 24 ינואר 2007, 11:27, נכתב על ידי Nadav Har'El:
 On Wed, Jan 24, 2007, Shahar Dag wrote about version control  wiki:
1.. Can you recommend a good implementation of version control 
wiki
  (we would like to use free software)

 I am not aware of a version control + wiki combination (but maybe
someone
 can correct me?), so you will have to choose each one separately.

 For version control, I would recommend Subversion. It is very similar in
 its basic philosophy to CVS, but it's simply better in many ways (I'm
 sure that Google can return heaps of comparisons of Subversion to every
 other version control system under the sun).

 For Wiki, I don't have any experiance of actually *installing* such a
 system, but from a user's perspective, I'd recommend MediaWiki, because
it
 has the most familar syntax (at least to the hundreds of thousands of
 people which contribute to Wikipedia).

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Re: version control wiki

2007-01-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:04:58AM +0200, Shahar Dag wrote:
 Hi Everyone
 
 
 
 I am not sure if I should mail this only to linux-il. I apology if you gets 
 this mail twice.
 
  
 
 I would like to here your advice
 
  
 
 I am the administrator or the System  Software Development Laboratory (SSDL) 
 in the computer science department at the Technion.
 
 I have a RHEL 4 application server. The server can be accesses via ssh from 
 everywhere (meaning outside of the Technion). We would like to add 2 
 additional services to our users: version control (including web interface)  
 wiki. The access to the new services can be from everywhere. Some of the data 
 will have anonymous read access but most of it will require authentication 
 for read  write.
 
  
 
   1.. Can you recommend a good implementation of version control  
 wiki (we would like to use free software)

Subversion is a safe choice, as everybody is familiar with it and it
is well-supported. However consider arguments such as:

http://keithp.com/blog/Repository_Formats_Matter.html

As for a read-only web interface to subversion: trac is nice, 
intuitive and powerful. However I would not use it for read-write 
access. It is also limited for a single repository. 

One very intuitive, very simple and very limited interface is the one
provided by subversion itself. Take a look at 
http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/
http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/

Its main atvantage is that it allows trivial downloads of files and
quick browsings of the latest versions of every branch/tag. 

In the above example, it is a handy complement to 
http://svn.digium.com/view/

Digium uses viewcvs. People somehow seem to prefer websvn. See:
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-apache . I find websvn more limited.

viewcvs nd websvn were trivial to install from Debian. Trac took more
work, but maybe it has improved.

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Re: version control wiki

2007-01-24 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 24/01/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, Jan 24, 2007, Shahar Dag wrote about version control  wiki:
   1.. Can you recommend a good implementation of version control  wiki (we 
would like to use free software)

I am not aware of a version control + wiki combination (but maybe someone can
correct me?), so you will have to choose each one separately.

For version control, I would recommend Subversion. It is very similar in
its basic philosophy to CVS, but it's simply better in many ways (I'm
sure that Google can return heaps of comparisons of Subversion to every
other version control system under the sun).

For Wiki, I don't have any experiance of actually *installing* such a system,
but from a user's perspective, I'd recommend MediaWiki, because it has the
most familar syntax (at least to the hundreds of thousands of people which
contribute to Wikipedia).


I agree on both counts. While I personally prefer CVS because I am
familiar with it, I understand that those in the know prefer
subversion. Also, the only wiki I'd recommend is MediaWiki.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: [SLUG] Querying an LDAP database

2007-01-24 Thread Amos Shapira

On 25/01/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am querying the userPassword field in an LDAP database.

The user's password is stored in the database as:
{SSHA}Z7072f78+4XQTrps38xKXFIrrFSPEHvd
but the ldapsearch is returning it as:
userPassword:: e1NTSEF9WjcwNzJmNzgrNFhRVHJwczM4eEtYRklyckZTUEVIdmQ=

What format is this latter?



This smelt of being a Base64 encoding (don't know why, maybe that = at the
end), so I found  http://www.motobit.com/util/base64-decoder-encoder.asp,
pasted that string to the bottom box and got the {SSHA} string at the top.

Conclusion - it's Base64 encoding of the data.

Would I be better off trying to do an LDAP compare, in which case, what

should the compare statement look like?



I'm not sure you want to do that - if the search depends on the password and
it's the wrong password then how would you differentiate between no match (
e.g. user not found,  for instance) and just a wrong password?

--Amos