Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Thanks for the replies!

I just parted with the princely sum of NIS 312 for a Canon Lide 25. Oh,
well if it doesn't shape up, I can always put it on my wife's Windonkey.

There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these:
Genius 1200XE - NIS 243
Genius HR7 - NIS 389
Plustek 1200 - NIS 289

I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro
mechanical components and scanning speed.

Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 Hello folks!

 I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
 fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
 required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/
 as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with
 what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields
 about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality.
 I find that hard to believe.

 The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
 better, 48 bit color and A4 size.

 I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.

 Regards,

 Daniel
   
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Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Julian Daich
El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 09:22 +0200, Daniel Feiglin escribió:

 
 There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these:
 Genius 1200XE - NIS 243
 Genius HR7 - NIS 389
Be careful! There were a lot of concerns regarding Genius scanners at
the Ubuntu forums.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1227071#poststop
I remember to be asked to sign a petition to Genius regarding their
scanners a month or so ago.
Check out the SANE list before buying nothing! When the developers say¨
good¨ support usually it means not complete.
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=geniusmodel=bus=anyv=p=
However the Genius HR7 seems to be well supported.

Julian

 Plustek 1200 - NIS 289
 
 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro
 mechanical components and scanning speed.
 
 Daniel Feiglin wrote:
  Hello folks!
 
  I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
  fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
  required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/
  as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with
  what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields
  about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality.
  I find that hard to believe.
 
  The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
  better, 48 bit color and A4 size.
 
  I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.
 
  Regards,
 
  Daniel

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Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Peter


On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote:

 I just parted with the princely sum of NIS 312 for a Canon Lide 25. Oh,
 well if it doesn't shape up, I can always put it on my wife's Windonkey.

 There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these:
 Genius 1200XE - NIS 243
 Genius HR7 - NIS 389
 Plustek 1200 - NIS 289

 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro
 mechanical components and scanning speed.

More likely in the glue that holds the type label to the case imho. 
Notice that for the price of the Genius you can buy a HP all-in-one. 
(almost). Imho selling a no-name scanner for as much money as a name 
all-in-one is genius marketing. Thus the name is correct. I don't know 
about the rest. Also why aren't brand names like 'Dork' (vs. 'Genius') 
and 'Minustek' (vs 'Plustek') more popular. They certainly attract 
attention.

Peter

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Re: spam and mail forwarding

2007-03-19 Thread Moshe Gorohovsky
Hi Ori,

You can install a sendmail milter.

Try http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/spamass-milter/

Another possibility is MIMEDefang: it runs spamassassin and can run
clamav and other mail filtering software. Get MIMEDefang from
http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/mimedefang/.
You will need to fine-tune MIMEDefang perl code for your needs.

Add

INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`mimedefang',
`S=unix:/var/spool/MIMEDefang/mimedefang.sock, F=T, T=S:5m;R:5m')

line to your sendmail.mc, regenerate sendmail.cf and reload sendmail.

 - Moshe Gorohovsky

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 I assume some people here have more experience then me with sendmail...
 
 I have a Linux server running sendmail.
 The server itself does not store mail for users, it only forwards mail  to
 their addresses.
 It is done by adding their name in /etc/mail/virtusertable
 
 Is there a simple way to run spam filters before forwarding the mail?
 

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Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Amos Shapira

On 19/03/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


about the rest. Also why aren't brand names like 'Dork' (vs. 'Genius')
and 'Minustek' (vs 'Plustek') more popular. They certainly attract
attention.



Who said they aren't?
What about Bug for a place to buy software or a defunct virus computer
shop network?

--Amos


Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Daniel Feiglin
I did two checks:

I checked the Sane site for each item. I only paid attention to scanners
with good or complete support, of which there were many. My problem
was, which of them (within my nominated price/performance range) are
available locally and from where. (Not many!)

Your remark about the Genius problem was interesting, since the Sane
list neither indicated difficulties, nor did it have a link to
somewhere else for the models in question.

As I pointed out earlier, I'm taking a punt on a Canon Lide 25 at NIS
312 (a tank of petrol?) which won't send me into bankruptcy.

Julian Daich wrote:
 El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 09:22 +0200, Daniel Feiglin escribió:

   
 There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these:
 Genius 1200XE - NIS 243
 Genius HR7 - NIS 389
 
 Be careful! There were a lot of concerns regarding Genius scanners at
 the Ubuntu forums.
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1227071#poststop
 I remember to be asked to sign a petition to Genius regarding their
 scanners a month or so ago.
 Check out the SANE list before buying nothing! When the developers say¨
 good¨ support usually it means not complete.
 http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=geniusmodel=bus=anyv=p=
 However the Genius HR7 seems to be well supported.

 Julian

   
 Plustek 1200 - NIS 289

 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro
 mechanical components and scanning speed.

 Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 
 Hello folks!

 I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
 fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
 required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/
 as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with
 what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields
 about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality.
 I find that hard to believe.

 The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
 better, 48 bit color and A4 size.

 I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.

 Regards,

 Daniel
   
   
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Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Peter


On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Amos Shapira wrote:


On 19/03/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


about the rest. Also why aren't brand names like 'Dork' (vs. 'Genius')
and 'Minustek' (vs 'Plustek') more popular. They certainly attract
attention.


Who said they aren't? What about Bug for a place to buy software or 
a defunct virus computer shop network?


You are right ... but both are (were) Israeli companies. The local sense 
of humour (and 'wholesomeness') is ... different from the norm 
elsewhere.


Peter

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Open Asterisk - correct name.

2007-03-19 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Yesterday I mentioned OpenAsterisk as a fork from Asterisk. I was
wrong. The name of the project is OpenPBX. Their web page is

http://www.openpbx.org

Geoff.


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OpenPBX compatible FXS/FXO cards

2007-03-19 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Does anyone know of a source for cheap (i.e. non digium) FXO or FXS
cards I can use with OpenPBX? I assume they are the same cards
as used by Asterisk.

The place needs to be in Jerusalem or will take phone orders with 
an Israel only credit card.

Does anyone have an old cards they would sell cheaply?

Geoff.


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Re: OpenPBX compatible FXS/FXO cards

2007-03-19 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Geoffrey S. Mendelson:

 Does anyone know of a source for cheap (i.e. non digium) FXO or FXS
 cards I can use with OpenPBX? I assume they are the same cards
 as used by Asterisk.

Digium bits are not terribly expensive. You can find some cards on ebay
but mostly its digium in israel...


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Re: OpenPBX compatible FXS/FXO cards

2007-03-19 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for cheap (i.e. non digium) FXO or FXS
cards I can use with OpenPBX? I assume they are the same cards
as used by Asterisk.

The place needs to be in Jerusalem or will take phone orders with 
an Israel only credit card.


Does anyone have an old cards they would sell cheaply?


Tikal Network resells Sangoma cards. They're good, but they ain't cheaper then 
the Digium ones.

Also, in general, if you want to base anything prudction worthy in the phone area, 
cheap is not a good search term.

Gilad

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Re: OpenPBX compatible FXS/FXO cards

2007-03-19 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:41:04PM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
 Tikal Network resells Sangoma cards. They're good, but they ain't cheaper 
 then the Digium ones.
 
 Also, in general, if you want to base anything prudction worthy in the 
 phone area, cheap is not a good search term.


It's a matter of money versus need. I don't need something good, I need
something that works. If I could afford them I would get the Sangoma
cards. 

Geoff.

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Re: OpenPBX compatible FXS/FXO cards

2007-03-19 Thread Peter

It's a matter of money versus need. I don't need something good, I need
something that works. If I could afford them I would get the Sangoma
cards.


Take a look at an ATA/FXS/FXO:

  http://www.digiumcards.com/zoom_telephonics_5801_FXO_FXS.html
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/FXS-FXO+Converters

More like this:

  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VoIP+Gateways

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Re: OpenPBX compatible FXS/FXO cards

2007-03-19 Thread Erez D

i also looked for cheap fxo+fxs ata. and i picked up gradstream
handytone and ...

i had bad experiance with them.

erez.

On 3/19/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:41:04PM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
 Tikal Network resells Sangoma cards. They're good, but they ain't cheaper
 then the Digium ones.

 Also, in general, if you want to base anything prudction worthy in the
 phone area, cheap is not a good search term.


It's a matter of money versus need. I don't need something good, I need
something that works. If I could afford them I would get the Sangoma
cards.

Geoff.

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Re: OpenPBX compatible FXS/FXO cards

2007-03-19 Thread Peter


On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Erez D wrote:


i also looked for cheap fxo+fxs ata. and i picked up gradstream
handytone and ...

i had bad experiance with them.


This is like 'There was a general protection failure. Press [OK]'. Could 
you please share the 'bad experience' with us ?


thanks,
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Re: OpenPBX compatible FXS/FXO cards

2007-03-19 Thread Erez D

i had many problems, here are some:

i used ht488, ht386, ht496 with asterisk

1. somtimes it logins to asterisks, somtimes it failes
while i was using the same asterisk and firmware version.
i couldn't find any consistency.
i tryied to update firmware version, and it didnt help.

2. i tried to use one such ATA (i thing it was the HT386) to connect
an analog phone to a phone (pass thru) and voip (asterisk)
(only phone - bezeq, phone - voip, never bezeq - voip)
there were many times it left the bezeq line off hook. (so every one
who called me got a busy tone.)
reset didn't fix it, neither disconncting the power supply. only
disconnecting the bezeq line ...


3. I bought the HT488 which is both FXO and FXS supporting caller id.
only when i got it i found out that caller-id works only in pass through
( i.e. no caller-id via voip)

and many more ...

On 3/19/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Erez D wrote:

 i also looked for cheap fxo+fxs ata. and i picked up gradstream
 handytone and ...

 i had bad experiance with them.

This is like 'There was a general protection failure. Press [OK]'. Could
you please share the 'bad experience' with us ?

thanks,
Peter



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Re: Open Asterisk - correct name.

2007-03-19 Thread Peter



On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:


Yesterday I mentioned OpenAsterisk as a fork from Asterisk. I was
wrong. The name of the project is OpenPBX. Their web page is

http://www.openpbx.org


Yes, thanks for that. Still there is no description of the story behind 
it, but I'll find it.


Peter

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Re: OpenPBX compatible FXS/FXO cards

2007-03-19 Thread Peter


Thanks for explaining. It is possible that the unit was damaged or does 
not suit the Israeli phone system (which is slightly different from 
elsewhere). Usually there are ways for technicians to 'adapt' the unit 
for local use (this is esp. about leaving the Nezeq line open), even 
though what you describe sounds like a fault in the ATA FXO side.


Peter


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Re: Open Asterisk - correct name.

2007-03-19 Thread Maxim Veksler

On 3/20/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

 Yesterday I mentioned OpenAsterisk as a fork from Asterisk. I was
 wrong. The name of the project is OpenPBX. Their web page is

   http://www.openpbx.org

Yes, thanks for that. Still there is no description of the story behind
it, but I'll find it.



http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/OpenPBX.org+FAQ


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Re: Rsync and databases

2007-03-19 Thread Ez-Aton
Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:

 On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:32:06 +0200
 From: Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jonathan Ben Avraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Israel Linux Mailing list linux-il@linux.org.il
 Subject: Re: Rsync and databases

 Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
 On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:35:00 +0200
 From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Israel Linux Mailing list linux-il@linux.org.il
 Subject: Rsync and databases

 I lost the original to this thread, but I thought some comments may be
 usefull.

 First of all, rsyncing an open file is not a good idea. If the file
 is a database you can end up with a totaly worthless bunch of random
 bits. :-(


 If the file is closed, then RSYNC will work, but it may not work for
 all database systems, check before using.

 Rsync will definately *not* work for Oracle database files. The rsync
 fails on the verification stage. Use ftp instead.
 Sounds strange, as rsync is supposed to create an identical copy on the
 remote machine. Does it fail on the rsync or Oracle verification stage?
 Do you know why it fails?

 Hi Shachar,
 The rsync fails, on the verification stage after it transfers the
 file, before invoking Oracle. This is a known problem with rsync and
 very sparce files that are more than 10GB. Haven't looked into it for
 a while. Might have been fixed recently but definately not working in
 RHEL3.

RHEL3 had well known issues with files larger than 2GB on various
filesystems. This might be related.
Setting Oracle to backup mode allows you to copy tables files on
either method you want, rsync included.
However, how does rsync handle binary changed files? Can it copy only
the binary diff, or must it copy the entire file all over?

Ez
  - yba

  - yba

 Shachar





Re: Rsync and databases

2007-03-19 Thread Amos Shapira

On 20/03/07, Ez-Aton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



However, how does rsync handle binary changed files? Can it copy only the
binary diff, or must it copy the entire file all over?



rsync works by comparing md5 hashes of individual file blocks and copying
the blocks which have different hash values, nothing to do with textual
diff.

(imagine - all the major mirror sites use rsync to get updates from the main
sites - these are virtually never text files).

--Amos


Re: Rsync and databases

2007-03-19 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ez-Aton wrote:
 However, how does rsync handle binary changed files? Can it copy only
 the binary diff,
Yes.
 or must it copy the entire file all over?
Not unless you ask it to.
 Ez
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Re: Rsync and databases

2007-03-19 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Amos Shapira wrote:
 On 20/03/07, *Ez-Aton* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 However, how does rsync handle binary changed files? Can it copy
 only the binary diff, or must it copy the entire file all over?


 rsync works by comparing md5 hashes of individual file blocks and
 copying the blocks which have different hash values,
Well, that's a really simplified explanation, but so be it :-)
 nothing to do with textual diff.
That, at least, is accurate.
 (imagine - all the major mirror sites use rsync to get updates from
 the main sites - these are virtually never text files).
And rarely enjoy the benefits from rsync either, but, again, so be it :-)
 --Amos
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