linux-il moderation and spam filtering
Hello all, last week the spam filters on the list ate two of my messages. They were large messages and I put a lot of effort into them. In the past few weeks this has happened a few times. Obviously I have been wasting my time writing them. Subsequent reporting of a message by an admin did not make it appear. The time has come to ask the question whether ilnux-il admins will consider giving up spam filtering the mailing list. I am subscribed to a number of mailing lists and none filter or moderate postings without explicitly saying so and especially without offering recourse. linux-il is the only one. I consider that subscribed and verified (at least by email confirmation and captcha) members of a mailing list can be trusted to not flood the list with spam (which would result in their being banned). Electronic chaperones are not welcome. Especially chaperones which have proven that they will cause data loss as they did for me. I would like to have a clear answer about why the linux-il list has a spam filter although it is a closed list as any other, who decided o install it, and whether removing (not just for me) it is an option that will be considered. If the answer is no, I may consider unsubscribing. There is no point in posting to a Russian Roulette list that may delete those postings I put most effort into (and has done so repeatedly so far). I can follow the list from an archive without wasting any time composing messages that will be deleted. I am awaiting response, thanks, Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Driver for Infrared Device
Tzahi Fadida wrote: I got an ancient infrared device PACKARED BELL - BPCS 146542 FCC ID: FODFMIR. It has a serial connector (DB9 pins). I don't have a remote for it. Is there a driver in linux that will support it? Also, is there a program to record a tv remote buttons and use it to operate, for example, amarok, etc... 10x. OMG!!! It's still alive!!! It was a product designed by a company I used to work for. If you can't get it to work, I can still contact the programmer who wrote the Windows 95 drivers for it and try and get some info from him. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[HAIFUX LECTURE] DV (Digital Video) under Linux by Alon Altman
On Monday, 26.3, at 18:30 the Haifa Linux Club, will gather to hear Alon Alman speak about DV (Digital Video) under Linux The lecture will cover the art of using a DV camcorder with Linux. How to capture video to your Linux system, transfer video back, and even backup your filesystem with a DV camcorder. Video editing under linux will also be mentioned. I hope to accompany the talk with live demonstrations. == We meet in Taub building, room 3. For instructions see: http://haifux.org/where.html Attendance is free, and you are all invited! == Future Lectures: 162-sil Linux for CS Students (A primer) Ohad Lutzky 28/03/2007 163 The OLPC project and the Children's Machine Zvi Devir 16/4/2007 We are always looking for interesting lectures. If you wish to contribute a lecture to the 2007 lecture season - please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it wasn't for C, we'd be writing programs in BASI, PASAL, and OBOL, anon Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys.) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
I think that there should be a way, like using a signing key signature that you register with the list in advance. Or simply using a text signature to enhance the accuracy of identifying you correctly. I suggest you start adding a distinct signature to your emails and wait a while for the spam filters to get this new info into the system. Of course, this is only a guess as to why they are not getting it that they emails are from you. On Sunday 25 March 2007 09:40, Peter wrote: Hello all, last week the spam filters on the list ate two of my messages. They were large messages and I put a lot of effort into them. In the past few weeks this has happened a few times. Obviously I have been wasting my time writing them. Subsequent reporting of a message by an admin did not make it appear. The time has come to ask the question whether ilnux-il admins will consider giving up spam filtering the mailing list. I am subscribed to a number of mailing lists and none filter or moderate postings without explicitly saying so and especially without offering recourse. linux-il is the only one. I consider that subscribed and verified (at least by email confirmation and captcha) members of a mailing list can be trusted to not flood the list with spam (which would result in their being banned). Electronic chaperones are not welcome. Especially chaperones which have proven that they will cause data loss as they did for me. I would like to have a clear answer about why the linux-il list has a spam filter although it is a closed list as any other, who decided o install it, and whether removing (not just for me) it is an option that will be considered. If the answer is no, I may consider unsubscribing. There is no point in posting to a Russian Roulette list that may delete those postings I put most effort into (and has done so repeatedly so far). I can follow the list from an archive without wasting any time composing messages that will be deleted. I am awaiting response, thanks, Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Was 'MySQL etc hardware whines': now some facts
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Shlomi Fish wrote: Seriously now - what can we do to get rid of the fact that a single architecture controlls most of the market, and it sucks. Here's what. Why is the x86 problem? That's why: There is no 'x86' problem. There is a marketing/market driven spiral called 'the PC industry'. It could have been a '68k' problem (and it was, in embedded telecom, until recently), or something else. The economical mechanism that unleashed a (then) substandard cpu and architecture under a Name (IBM) onto an unprepared and uneducated market would have worked the same way with something else. Of course it could have been a something else that is 'better' from the engineering point of view. [SNIPPED] I started reading it, but then noticed it was too long. Can you provide an executive summary? In a few lines: Current cheap (and c**p engineering) PCs are a result of a political decision made by IBM when they developed the PC based on x86, filtered by 20 years of technology wars which tried to improve the x86. This led to a commodity hardware platform that was able to run a hardware preemptive OS with virtual memory in the eary 1990s (with the 386). Current open source *nix derives from work done at universities in the 1970s and 1980s when *nix was developed initially. The OSS movement was political in the beginning, but when the US government reversed its laws which made work done at public expense freely available, and allowed ATT to close access to the *nix sources, the OSS movement became a need for universities and students who could not afford or did not want to deal with licenses. These two items, commodity hardware and OSS elements (like the gcc compiler and software suites) reached critical mass in the early 1990s when the open source *nix on commodity hardware really took off. So current *nix owes its exsitence (and leanness and cleanness) to its origins. 'Removing' the x86 platform would remove most of the need for OSS. will make them non-free-software and not open source as a FOSS must be usable for any use: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Please read the Vista EULA. Also IBM etc have sued companies before, for running their products in emulators. Windows IS non-free software, and by porting desirable OSS applications to it you are supporting Windows, not OSS. If you want to go this way and forbid that, go ahead. But people who use only FOSS won't use your software, and the FSF will reject your software. Do you really want to go there? Read the GPL3 and what it means. It is possible than an interpretation of the GPL3 will be that it may be illegal (or at least a gray zone) to port GPL3 OSS to closed systems, like Windows. I do not agree with a lot of things in GPL3 but I regard this particular element as a desirable feature. Now, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying you should not make use of the techincal advantages of Linux and other Unixes when writing software. But: 1. Often you don't need to. (If your software only does text processing or data proecssing, file system and TCP/IP, for example) 2. Often you can make sure the software still runs on Windows, only with some limitations. However, restricting your software to Linux alone by laziness, artificially incopmatible code, or worse - licence restrictions - is stupid. I am a stupid person who has witnessed dozens of people keep to windows in despite of strange things they had to do to run the OSS applications they had to run. They did it because there existed at least one complicated, unreliable way to use the OSS application without switching to it entirely, and after having seen and used the same OSS on a native *nix system. If the complicated way would not have existed, then they would have switched (they showed proficiency in using the native OSS platform after a short time). This sums up more than 10 years of doing this. If you want to feed the opposition's sheep, you are free to do that. But every time you do that there is one OSS desktop fewer. What you are describing above is the exact opposite of what should have happened. Those users need X and they are allowed to use their legacy systems to use it BECAUSE X provides interoperability. That is the WRONG kind of interoperability. The right way would have been to have naturally forced most of the users to run OSS because they need X. By porting OSS to Windows you are ensuring the survival of that model, and the continuation of its revenue model. Again, someone would have written an X server for Windows sooner or later. There are now several of those including the free X.Org-port for cygwin, which I've seen used extensively at my work. While you make sure your software runs only Linux, there are many other developers out there, and one of them could duplicate your efforts for Windows. So why try to stop the water from flowing in the first place? I am not the one who stops the water from
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
On 3/25/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, last week the spam filters on the list ate two of my messages. They were large messages and I put a lot of effort into them. In the past few weeks this has happened a few times. Obviously I have been wasting my time writing them. Subsequent reporting of a message by an admin did not make it appear. Sorry, I was sick during the weekend. I approved it now. The time has come to ask the question whether ilnux-il admins will consider giving up spam filtering the mailing list. I am subscribed to a number of mailing lists and none filter or moderate postings without explicitly saying so and especially without offering recourse. linux-il is the only one. The spam fliter were instate at the request of people from the mailing list. If a discussion on the list will conclude that the spam filter should be removed I'll remove it. I consider that subscribed and verified (at least by email confirmation and captcha) members of a mailing list can be trusted to not flood the list with spam (which would result in their being banned). Electronic chaperones are not welcome. Especially chaperones which have proven that they will cause data loss as they did for me. Sadly enough it's too easy to fake someone's from header. A bot doesn't need to subscribe but rather just to harvest one email. Maybe getting a third moderator will help. I would like to have a clear answer about why the linux-il list has a spam filter although it is a closed list as any other, who decided o install it, and whether removing (not just for me) it is an option that will be considered. If the answer is no, I may consider unsubscribing. There is no point in posting to a Russian Roulette list that may delete those postings I put most effort into (and has done so repeatedly so far). I can follow the list from an archive without wasting any time composing messages that will be deleted. If the problem is only with your email we can just add a rule to not spam filter your emails. Is there anyone else who is encoutering any problems? I am awaiting response, thanks, Peter Ely = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Tzahi Fadida wrote: I think that there should be a way, like using a signing key signature that you register with the list in advance. Or simply using a text signature to enhance the accuracy of identifying you correctly. I suggest you start adding a distinct signature to your emails and wait a while for the spam filters to get this new info into the system. Of course, this is only a guess as to why they are not getting it that they emails are from you. Mailing list members are members because they signed in and were confirmed. There is no need for furhter id. That's the way it works all over the world. thanks, Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On 24/03/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps there is a way to register a key to the list engine and you can sign your email with the key. Then, the list engine will be sure to know it is you. Everyone else and your not signed emails will have to pass the spam filters. It's called pgp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_a_router.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/kde.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote about Re: list police ate my message: Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses. I just did not think of it. While it is true that spammers can, and very easily, forge From addresses and choose one of a legitimate member of the list, I've never actually seen this happen in practice, and I've been running mailing lists for almost a decade. Has anyone seen this happen? (a spammer sending mail to a list, pretending to come from one of the legitimate subscribers) If not, then this trick can still work, temporarily, until the spammers feel it is worth they while to catch up... -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Mar 25 2007, 6 Nisan 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Does replacing myself with a shell-script http://nadav.harel.org.il |make me impressive or insignificant? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On Sunday 25 March 2007 12:08, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 24/03/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps there is a way to register a key to the list engine and you can sign your email with the key. Then, the list engine will be sure to know it is you. Everyone else and your not signed emails will have to pass the spam filters. It's called pgp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy I know pgp, however, it is not enough that you sign it, you have to tell the list to register you somehow for later processing otherwise your email will be considered like any other. -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
On Sunday 25 March 2007 12:01, Peter wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Tzahi Fadida wrote: I think that there should be a way, like using a signing key signature that you register with the list in advance. Or simply using a text signature to enhance the accuracy of identifying you correctly. I suggest you start adding a distinct signature to your emails and wait a while for the spam filters to get this new info into the system. Of course, this is only a guess as to why they are not getting it that they emails are from you. Mailing list members are members because they signed in and were confirmed. There is no need for furhter id. That's the way it works all over the world. You yourself pointed out in an earlier emails some insights about x86 work all over the world, that doesn't make it the right way :). Anyway, your header can be hijacked by anyone and they can impersonate you, this is SOP for spammers. You have to make more effort into proving who you are in order for the list to trust you more, thus, i suggested to add some kind of signature to improve. -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
Maybe because the spam filter is doing such a good job?;) But seriously, maybe it's a good idea to remove the spam filter for a while and see how it affects the list. Ely On 3/25/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote about Re: list police ate my message: Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses. I just did not think of it. While it is true that spammers can, and very easily, forge From addresses and choose one of a legitimate member of the list, I've never actually seen this happen in practice, and I've been running mailing lists for almost a decade. Has anyone seen this happen? (a spammer sending mail to a list, pretending to come from one of the legitimate subscribers) If not, then this trick can still work, temporarily, until the spammers feel it is worth they while to catch up... -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Mar 25 2007, 6 Nisan 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Does replacing myself with a shell-script http://nadav.harel.org.il |make me impressive or insignificant? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Novell mac-pc ad spoofs
There are two ads on this, so scroll down... http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/03/novell_launches.html --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Tzahi Fadida wrote: Mailing list members are members because they signed in and were confirmed. There is no need for furhter id. That's the way it works all over the world. You yourself pointed out in an earlier emails some insights about x86 work all over the world, that doesn't make it the right way :). Anyway, your header can be hijacked by anyone and they can impersonate you, this is SOP for spammers. You have to make more effort into proving who you are in order for the list to trust you more, thus, i suggested to add some kind of signature to improve. The way these things work is, 'don't fix it if it ain't broken'. While there is a way to abuse the list, it is unlikely to be used. Other lists with larger circulation are better targets for spam and the process is still not (or very seldomly) used. Thus using it 'preventively' is in the same class as requiring biometric authentication for an entire country's adult population to allow use of the internet, so as to prevent a potential teenager from potentially accessing a potentially damaging website once or twice (usually it's disgusting enough the first time). Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Novell mac-pc ad spoofs
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Amos Shapira wrote: There are two ads on this, so scroll down... http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/03/novell_launches.html There are more ads like that on youtube. But here is something wrt 'interoperability': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3CIrDkGOk0 Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
On Sunday 25 March 2007 13:51, Peter wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Tzahi Fadida wrote: Mailing list members are members because they signed in and were confirmed. There is no need for furhter id. That's the way it works all over the world. You yourself pointed out in an earlier emails some insights about x86 work all over the world, that doesn't make it the right way :). Anyway, your header can be hijacked by anyone and they can impersonate you, this is SOP for spammers. You have to make more effort into proving who you are in order for the list to trust you more, thus, i suggested to add some kind of signature to improve. The way these things work is, 'don't fix it if it ain't broken'. While there is a way to abuse the list, it is unlikely to be used. Other lists with larger circulation are better targets for spam and the process is still not (or very seldomly) used. Thus using it 'preventively' is in Security in obscurity. You know, i think most of the unsubcribers to this list, did so because of a high volume of non-relevant emails (to them of course), imagine how a few spam messages could affect others. the same class as requiring biometric authentication for an entire country's adult population to allow use of the internet, so as to prevent a potential teenager from potentially accessing a potentially damaging website once or twice (usually it's disgusting enough the first time). Ok, now you are exaggerating. Aside from the scales and completely inappropriate censorship attempts which is not the case here, i did not suggest blocking people who did not provide a signature but rather not run the spam filters on them. You can still send unsigned emails. -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Novell mac-pc ad spoofs
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Amos Shapira wrote: There are two ads on this, so scroll down... http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/03/novell_launches.html Here are better ones from the same series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBgj96gGw9Y (and original Apple ads ... rofl) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONl6J7z7jmE (mac) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV_DHAMGtLYmode=relatedsearch= Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
off topic: pirates of silicon valley - the story of the pc
This is a movie about the story of the PC from Gates to recent developments (without *nix): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BJu2GAkf2k (there are 8 or 9 parts) Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: off topic: pirates of silicon valley - the story of the pc
Quoting Peter, from the post of Sun, 25 Mar: This is a movie about the story of the PC from Gates to recent developments (without *nix): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BJu2GAkf2k it's at least 4 years old, nicely made but not entirely accurate. Jobs even had Noah Wiley(spl?) come up on stage instead of him at a keynote once, for laughs, after it was aired on TV for the first time... -- Throw it in the toaster and watch it pop! Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
Here's an idea: why don't you, Peter, volunteer to be a moderator on this list? This will allow you to approve your own messages that are incorrectly flagged as spam, and also monitor all the censoring decisions made by the big bad non-existing IGLU CABAL. Not to mention take some load off the current moderator(s). List managers - is it feasible to add another moderator? - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
decisions made by the big bad non-existing IGLU CABAL. Linux_il is the only place in the world where non existing entity can make decisions :-) -- Ori Idan On 3/25/07, Aviram Jenik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an idea: why don't you, Peter, volunteer to be a moderator on this list? This will allow you to approve your own messages that are incorrectly flagged as spam, and also monitor all the censoring decisions made by the big bad non-existing IGLU CABAL. Not to mention take some load off the current moderator(s). List managers - is it feasible to add another moderator? - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Ori Idan wrote: decisions made by the big bad non-existing IGLU CABAL. Linux_il is the only place in the world where non existing entity can make decisions :-) I'm not arguing. One cannot argue with a Bayesian filter. Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
On Sunday March 25 2007, Aviram Jenik wrote: Here's an idea: why don't you, Peter, volunteer to be a moderator on this list? This will allow you to approve your own messages that are incorrectly flagged as spam, and also monitor all the censoring decisions made by the big bad non-existing IGLU CABAL. Not to mention take some load off the current moderator(s). Didn't want to play this card, but if you bring it to the table... List managers - is it feasible to add another moderator? While I'll happily offload a part of spamreading on another moderator, may I say that what Peter is so readily attributes to malice is simply a malfunction and lack of redundancy/communication in the admin team. It appears that both me and Ely got sick over the weekend and weren't able to deal with what seems to be a misconfiguration. -- Sincerely Yours, Michael Vasiliev We must not put mistakes into programs because of sloppiness, we have to do it systematically and with care. -- Attributed to Edsger Wybe Dijkstra = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Python-IL] next python meeting - Wednesday 28/3/07 18:30
פגישת משתמשי פייתון לחודש מרץ תתקיים ב- 28/3/07, בשעה 18:30 במשרדי Egloo, רחוב הסדנאות 3 בהרצליה. הנושאים להפעם: בני צ'רניאבסקי על metaclasses Simon Robins על SOAP בפייתון (קצר) פרטים ועדכונים באתר http://wiki.python.org.il/Upcoming_Meeting בברכה, עמית = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-il moderation and spam filtering
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Michael Vasiliev wrote: On Sunday March 25 2007, Aviram Jenik wrote: Here's an idea: why don't you, Peter, volunteer to be a moderator on this list? This will allow you to approve your own messages that are incorrectly flagged as spam, and also monitor all the censoring decisions made by the big bad non-existing IGLU CABAL. Not to mention take some load off the current moderator(s). Didn't want to play this card, but if you bring it to the table... List managers - is it feasible to add another moderator? While I'll happily offload a part of spamreading on another moderator, may I say that what Peter is so readily attributes to malice is simply a malfunction and lack of redundancy/communication in the admin team. It appears that both me and Ely got sick over the weekend and weren't able to deal with what seems to be a misconfiguration. I never said 'malice'. I said '***' ate my messages. I also asked a legitimate question about why the list has a spam filter in the first place. Did spam injection occur in the past ? If so, when ? (less than two years a ago ... ?) thanks, Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
