Re: Hacked server
On 4/8/07, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will also need to install everything from scratch (and I suggest you init. your bios as well). Flashing your BIOS for no real need (and the attack you're talking about is purely theoretical) is calling for trouble. While it's fun to play the how can you totally 0wn a server? mental game, let's stick to what's really done in real life attacks. Try running them (including the web server itself) in chroot. Alternatively, at least consider limiting Apache a bit: 1) Run it with an SELinux policy (FC3 and upwards supports SELinux; not sure about FC2) 2) Limit, with iptables uid-owner/gid-owner rules, the network sites which Apache can initiate a connection to. While this will add a maintenance overhead for web apps which pull data from remote servers, it'll also break many common attacks, e.g.: - some pre-made attack scripts rely on making, say, your broken PHP webapp, download the full-fledged backdoor program from a remote server owned by the attacker - one reason to attack might be to set up a spam zombie; By refusing outgoing traffic, it couldn't contact port 25 on other machines. Depending on your web apps, those limitations might be an unacceptable overhead. Or you might flex them a bit, e.g. chose to always allow port 80 but not other ports. Also, they don't aim to give hermetic security, just to cripple your environment just enough to frustrate an attacker or make your machine useless for his needs.
Re: Nokia E61 Linux syncing
On 07/04/07, Gil Freund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am considering buying a Nokia e61 phone, and would appreciate any note on syncing the thing with Linux (more specifically Kontact, FireFox or Evolution). Any experience? At the worst case, you're likely to be able to sync any modern phone's phone book by pulling off its phonebook in VCF format (from the magic pb/telecom.vcf file, ObexFTP service) and then using it in your favorite PIM software. I know KDE's address book groks Nokia's VCFs rather well. The OpenSync project is more along the lines of what you need (read: SyncML support) but back when I tried it, it was still half baked.
Perl book
Hi, Can you recommend a perl cookbook please ? Please share your opinion on perl books or other manuals that you have used. I need a perl book for a system administrator with Java/C++/C background, with lots of examples. -- Moshe Gorohovsky A6 CC A7 E1 C2 BD 8C 1B 30 8E A4 C3 4C 09 88 47 Tk Open Systems Ltd. --- - tel: +972.2.679.5364,http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl book
Learning Perl Programming Perl, both by O'reilly. The first is a gr8 dive into water for everyone, programmer or no programmer. The latter is a great reference for those who know. On 4/8/07, Moshe Gorohovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can you recommend a perl cookbook please ? Please share your opinion on perl books or other manuals that you have used. I need a perl book for a system administrator with Java/C++/C background, with lots of examples. -- Moshe Gorohovsky A6 CC A7 E1 C2 BD 8C 1B 30 8E A4 C3 4C 09 88 47 Tk Open Systems Ltd. --- - tel: +972.2.679.5364,http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl book
On Sunday 08 April 2007, Moshe Gorohovsky wrote: Hi, Can you recommend a perl cookbook please ? Please share your opinion on perl books or other manuals that you have used. I need a perl book for a system administrator with Java/C++/C background, with lots of examples. Hi Moshe! Please consult my site for that at: http://perl-begin.berlios.de/ Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ If it's not in my E-mail it doesn't happen. And if my E-mail is saying one thing, and everything else says something else - E-mail will conquer. -- An Israeli Linuxer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl book
Noam Meltzer wrote: Learning Perl Programming Perl, both by O'reilly. The first is a gr8 dive into water for everyone, programmer or no programmer. The latter is a great reference for those who know. Thank you for the recommendation, I will look at Learning Perl. I had looked at Programming Perl by Larry Wall, etc. and Perl Cookbook by Tom Christiansen, etc. and online perl manuals and man-pages. I was lost in Programming Perl and perl man-pages because of their too detailed descriptions, without good examples. I was need to run many examples on my own, to understand first sections of the Programming Perl. - Moshe. On 4/8/07, Moshe Gorohovsky wrote: Hi, Can you recommend a perl cookbook please ? Please share your opinion on perl books or other manuals that you have used. I need a perl book for a system administrator with Java/C++/C background, with lots of examples. -- Moshe Gorohovsky A6 CC A7 E1 C2 BD 8C 1B 30 8E A4 C3 4C 09 88 47 Tk Open Systems Ltd. --- - tel: +972.2.679.5364,http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl book
Hi Shlomi, The perl course slides at cs.technion.ac.il that are linked from your site is just what I need. Is there an exercises [ and solutions :) ] page for that course that we can access ? Thank you. - Moshe. Shlomi Fish wrote: On Sunday 08 April 2007, Moshe Gorohovsky wrote: Hi, Can you recommend a perl cookbook please ? Please share your opinion on perl books or other manuals that you have used. I need a perl book for a system administrator with Java/C++/C background, with lots of examples. Hi Moshe! Please consult my site for that at: http://perl-begin.berlios.de/ Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ If it's not in my E-mail it doesn't happen. And if my E-mail is saying one thing, and everything else says something else - E-mail will conquer. -- An Israeli Linuxer -- Moshe Gorohovsky A6 CC A7 E1 C2 BD 8C 1B 30 8E A4 C3 4C 09 88 47 Tk Open Systems Ltd. --- - tel: +972.2.679.5364,http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hacked server
On 4/8/07, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could do few things: 2. Have some logs emailed to you from the server on a daily basis (crontab). By default, Redhat/CentOS/Fedora does this automatically, but you can enhance it to send pack few log files and email them to you as .tar.bz2 for example. That way you could check whats going on to see who entered when etc.. (logs like ssh, httpd, sendmail). Ususally when you compress text files, they become small, so the email wouldn't be really big. That is impractical advise. No one has time the go by daily basis over the logs of every service, the only way your logs will prove to be useful that way is *after* the break in. You should be looking at logwatch. 3. Make sure your iptables/firewall settings will only let specific needs and nothing else comes in. nmap is your friend to check, along with stuff like SAINT etc. If you don't know firewall settings well, just ask here. I'm sure someone would happily assist you with it. Also, for user friendly firewall manipulation - http://www.fwbuilder.org/ 4. have a cron script that will backup your web server stuff nightly. If you don't have a tape backup or spare space for backup, then pack the essential parts and use the script to email it to you (GMail account can hold almost 3 gigs, so you can save the backup there) dirvish.org is a gift from guru(s). Hetz Maxim. -- Cheers, Maxim Veksler Free as in Freedom - Do u GNU ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl book
On 08/04/07, Moshe Gorohovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a perl book for a system administrator with Java/C++/C background, with lots of examples. If examples are what you are after then maybe the perl FAQ could suffice. http://perldoc.perl.org/ is a very conveient way to browse the documents, the FAQ and even start a search of CPAN. --Amos
Re: FOSS accounting software
On Sunday, 8 בApril 2007 00:00, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: First of all, the probablility in the real world of someone being able to verify the source code is clean is not very large. Few people can actually read source code to the point that a hidden exploit is not present. Even those that can, rarely do so. Maybe, but the probability is still higher than in a closed source. Have you looked at the source code for any of the open source applications you run? Not little bits here and there, but the entire program? Usually only the little bits that interest me personally, maybe other people look at other bits (or maybe not). However, our mythical attacker does not know which bits and pieces would be read by someone. So basically we really play a probability game here. How many people have read the source of a typical proprietary application? If you lived in the corporate world, you already know the answer... There was for example a trojan placed in one of the more common TCP/IP utilities (I forget which it was, either traceroute or tcpdump) and it even made it to a few distributions of various operating systems. Good example. Let's examine some of the facts: http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-30.html ...These modified distributions began to appear in downloads from the HTTP server www.tcpdump.org on or around Nov 11 2002 10:14:00 GMT. The tcpdump development team disabled download of the distributions containing the Trojan horse on Nov 13 2002 15:05:19 GMT. Hmmm... roughly *two days* to discovery and damage control. Do you think a proprietary application would have scored better? I'll feed you with a better example: http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-01.html Interbase Server Contains Compiled-in Back Door Account This backdoor took *6 months* to be discovered since the open-sourcing of this database (now called Firebird). This is a very long time... However, it was discovered that the backdoor was inserted to the codebase in 1994. Yes that's *six years* in which the database was proprietary and was sold by a respectable company (Borland) to respectable customers (e.g: Motorola, Nokia, Boeing and the Boston Stock Exchange). With closed source programs where the source code and the distribution of compiled programs is tightly controlled, the skill level required of a person modifiying it for nefareous purposes is much higher. Eastern Eggs -- do you know any big proprietary application without ones? Care to explain how these filter into the code in a tightly controlled environment? Don't make us laugh. Geoff, maybe development process was tightly controlled in 60's but it surely ain't even close to this now. In the crazy race for time-to-market almost no one care about real bugs (as long as they are not show stoppers). For most managers security related bugs look even more vague and hypothetical problem that only paranoids are worried about unless it is already on CNN. Cheers, -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 .. Complex problems have simple, easy to understand wrong answers. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOSS accounting software
On 08/04/07, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eastern Eggs -- do you know any big proprietary application without ones? Care to explain how these filter into the code in a tightly controlled environment? Don't make us laugh. Geoff, maybe development process was tightly controlled in 60's but it surely ain't even close to this now. In the crazy race for time-to-market almost no one care about real bugs (as long as they are not show stoppers). For most managers security related bugs look even more vague and hypothetical problem that only paranoids are worried about unless it is already on CNN. I must share with you another story - just last week I talked to a guy who programmed the real-time code in SHDSL cards many years ago. They had very tight CPU and memory constraints but they HAD to put in some easter egg. One of the requirements or limitations in the corporate he worked for (a very large and well known corporate) was that it won't download porn so they embedded ascii porn on the card (since it's embedded it's not downloaded). If you get into the debug interface and type 69 in some command there you'll get screen fulls of ascii porn. The card is sold and installed by the thousands every day today but nobody found about this egg so far (and the guy who wrote it says that there is no chance of it being found since it can only be accessed through the debug interface and the ascii images are encrypted so a simple memory hex dump won't reveal anything obvious about them). BTW - this guy got around to talk to a support engineer who supports this card after a few years and the engineer told him there are still zero bugs filed against this product (as a developer, I consider this to be the ultimate measure that a programmer knows what he's doing). Talk about proprietary software --Amos
Re: FOSS accounting software
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 07:46:12PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: I must share with you another story - just last week I talked to a guy who programmed the real-time code in SHDSL cards many years ago. They had very tight CPU and memory constraints but they HAD to put in some easter egg. One of the requirements or limitations in the corporate he worked for (a very large and well known corporate) was that it won't download porn so they embedded ascii porn on the card (since it's embedded it's not downloaded). Marc, do you remember the PC BIOS upgrade you downloaded almost 10 years ago the included in plain text SHEMA YISRAEL A.? I'm sure anyone a few kilometers to the east of us would have loved seeing that. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web app to upload files?
Hello, I'd like to let a friend of mine to upload a file to my home server. It's a one-off need. Does anyone know of a simple web application I can install to let him do that through HTTP without too much hassle? I'm using Debian Etch. Thanks, --Amos
Re: Web app to upload files?
Hello, Well, there are few problems with such application: 1. HTTP is limited to the amount of files that PUT or fileupload field allows. 2. It's easier to write your own program, rather then to tweak an existed program (it will take you the same amount of time imho, or even more). 3. It's not that safe (many security vulnerabilities exists with such approach) 4. There are better protocols for such action (FTP and SFTP as two examples). Ido On 4/8/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'd like to let a friend of mine to upload a file to my home server. It's a one-off need. Does anyone know of a simple web application I can install to let him do that through HTTP without too much hassle? I'm using Debian Etch. Thanks, --Amos -- http://ik.homelinux.org/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hacked server
1. run it behind a decent firewall ( even pf,iptables logs should give you some idea about who's accessing your computer and using which service ) 2. dont run anything with root 3. run chrooted env's if possible 4. reinstall using something more updated system and dont install anything you dont need, skin it down 5. configure firewall and services ACL to allow remote access (SSH) or service level (BIND) access from known ips/networks 6. honeypots and monitoring scripts 7. rootkits 8. IDS can come in handy to alert you on hazardus actions on the server (snort?) 9. hide all information about application names and versions, same goes for OS, search for OS hardening guides On Sun, April 8, 2007 00:33, Ori Idan wrote: A server I managed was hacked by a libian hacker. The only thing he did was changing the index.html of some web sites. The server is based on fedora core 2 running: httpd sendmail bind proftp (through xinetd) ssh Any ideas how he could have done it? What should I do to prevent such hackes in the future? -- Ori Idan !DSPAM:4618103d188168008797548! Best regards Baruch Shpirer http://www.shpirer.com Paranoids are people too, they have their own problems. It's easy to criticize, but if everybody hated you, you'd be paranoid too. D. J. Hicks = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Web app to upload files?
On Sunday 08 April 2007 13:12, Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, I'd like to let a friend of mine to upload a file to my home server. It's a one-off need. Does anyone know of a simple web application I can install to let him do that through HTTP without too much hassle? I'm using Debian Etch. If you don't mind a bit coding and you have an HTTP server with PHP enabled... Gathering a few piece of code from here will take no more than 1-2 minutes... http://php.net/features.file-upload -- Shimi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hacked server
On Sunday, 8 בApril 2007 01:16, Amos Shapira wrote: Sticking to supported versions is rule number one in production networks (and plan ahead to switch to a later version well before the current one you use get's EOL'ed). Correct. Ori used FC2, while FC4 is already EOL many months. As far as I'm aware FC is just a beta for RedHat and I'm not even sure they promise to issue security patches for it. That's FUD. RedHat sponsors Fedora, but the project issues its own releases and patches. By supported I mean that the distro vendor promises to track the relevant security vulnerabilities in the included software and issue patched packages in a timely manner. Fedora do this promptly like any other free software distro (yes, I am a Fedora user as you can feel ;-) (Again - I'm not quite familiar with FC or RH but Debian makes all these suggestions uber easy). I run 'yum update' daily (you can do it via cron of course, but I prefer to do it manually). For production server you should reconsider your distribution of choice: Fedora is a fast paced distro like Debian testing, you get most bleeding edge software (that's why I stick with it) but you pay in almost daily updates and a short life cycle -- new release every 6 months and good maintenance of only 1.5 releases (~1 year). If you aim at free distribution with long term updates than you may either switch to Centos (a RedHat clone, so your learning curve should be easier), or switch to Debian stable (h... there's no point installing Sarge now, and Etch is due RSN(tm). -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 Software is like Entropy: it's hard to grasp, weighs nothing and obeys the Second Law of Thermodynamics, i.e. it always increases -- Norman Augustine = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Web app to upload files?
a few good scripts for you: phpXplorer (my favorite) http://phpxplorer.org/phpXplorer/www/ blueshoes (windows folders like using JS) http://www.blueshoes.org/en/applications/filemanager/ or some others http://phpfm.sourceforge.net/ http://pfn.sourceforge.net/ On Sun, April 8, 2007 13:12, Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, I'd like to let a friend of mine to upload a file to my home server. It's a one-off need. Does anyone know of a simple web application I can install to let him do that through HTTP without too much hassle? I'm using Debian Etch. Thanks, --Amos !DSPAM:4618c238295701709215669! Best regards Baruch Shpirer http://www.shpirer.com Paranoids are people too, they have their own problems. It's easy to criticize, but if everybody hated you, you'd be paranoid too. D. J. Hicks = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOSS accounting software
On Sunday 08 April 2007, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 11:53:45PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote: On Friday 06 April 2007, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: I have a philosophical question. With open source software how do you make sure that the copy you are running was not modified to send your accounting data to some data collection site? You seem to be implying that there's a way to do this with proprietary software that doesn't work for free software. Is there? No, but there is a much greater risk of it happening with open source software. First of all, the probablility in the real world of someone being able to verify the source code is clean is not very large. Few people can actually read source code to the point that a hidden exploit is not present. Even those that can, rarely do so. Have you looked at the source code for any of the open source applications you run? Not little bits here and there, but the entire program? The probability of any one person verifying an entire codebase is very low - I've certainly never done so. But that of some people doing it collectively or even just as 'patchwork' can be high. In any project with more than one or two committers, there will be people watching the commit log, there will be people looking through the code to learn how to extend it. Really important projects will come under the scrutiny of dedicated audit teams. Anyway, the probability of someone verifying that non-open-source code is clean is a lot smaller yet. Both the ease of performing a complete-code audit, and the likelihood of one occuring for widely used programs, are higher for open source than for proprietary code. With open source software it becomes much easier for an unscrupulous person to modify the downloadable source code or ceate a mirror of the compiled program with a bug. There was for example a trojan placed in one of the more common TCP/IP utilities (I forget which it was, either traceroute or tcpdump) and it even made it to a few distributions of various operating systems. Of course it's easier to make a mirror with a trojan for an open source app, because proprietary software disallows mirrors.But that doesn't automatically get the trojan to the end users. I looked up the tcpdump case. The CERT advisory[1] says an intruder to tcpdump.org inserted the trojan into the release tarball, and it was then copied to various mirrors. tcpdump installations began to fail for from-source Gentoo users, and some of them[2] spent the couple of minutes needed to diff the good and bad tarballs. This revealed a small change to the code which even on first inspection is suspicious, so they investigated further, and/or alerted upstream. [1] http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-30.html [2] http://www.hlug.org/trojan/ The whole issue was widely known and fixed in a few days. Apparently no major distributions' packages were affected. That's an example of a good immune response: the correct security system (release tarball hashes) both stopped the trojan and alerted people to it. Of course the system isn't perfect. tcpdump is a big project. When I install some small one-off utility I'd never heard of before, can I really trust that the distro's packager verified a GPG signature on the tarball he was testing, and got the signing GPG key out of band? For that matter, can I trust the upstream committers to keep that key and their development workstations separate from, and at least as secure as, the site where they publish releases? Can I even trust the good intentions of the main committers of this small project - not just that they won't trojan the code themselves, but that their code is security-conscious and of high quality and that they won't try to hide bugs and vulnerabilities instead of fixing them? The answer is no - at least not for small-to-medium projects. But that's not the issue here. Proprietary software isn't better off. For the most part it's a lot worse off because the average Windows user, and the average Windows infrastructure, isn't as secure and security-minded as good open source software. Imagine if a similar trojan were inserted into wireshark - not into the source tarballs, but only into the Windows .exe release. I'm sure they publish hashes and signatures for the EXEs as well. How many Windows users check those after downloading, do you think? Not users like you (if you ever use Windows), but average tech-savvy users? With closed source programs where the source code and the distribution of compiled programs is tightly controlled, the skill level required of a person modifiying it for nefareous purposes is much higher. Not that much higher. First, trojaning a random binary is easy: that's what all viruses do, and by now there must be a huge of virus-making tools and sample code out there. Second, it's true that it's a lot harder to penetrate the distribution of official
Re: Hacked server
Oron Peled wrote: Fedora is a fast paced distro like Debian testing I'm assuming you meant Debian Unstable Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hacked server
I disagree, Debian Unstable (Sid) is an ever-updating, bleeding-edge distro: *tends to bring the latest version of each software*, while Fedora doesn't. For example, FC6 has Firefox 1.5, and 2.0 will never be there, only in FC7. Debian Testing is the next Debian Stable, like FC is the next RHEL. - Oren Shachar Shemesh wrote: Oron Peled wrote: Fedora is a fast paced distro like Debian testing I'm assuming you meant "Debian Unstable" Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hacked server
On Sunday, 8 בApril 2007 13:59, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Oron Peled wrote: Fedora is a fast paced distro like Debian testing I'm assuming you meant Debian Unstable No, unless I missunderstood the Debian process. In Fedora untested packages first goes to the Rawhide repositories (which I think are the equivalent of Debian Unstable). Only later they filter into the official Fedora repositories. Fedora does not have an equivalent to Debian Stable (because that's what RedHat suppose to be when you pay them... ;-) BTW, as the Fedora project matures it naturally encounters the same challenges as any big community based distro. In that sense I see a lot of learning and copying from Debian (which is a good thing). Regretfully, it's not common enough and there are plenty of cases when the wrong wheels are poorly reinvented -- my (un)favorite is yum instead of using apt4rpm. Well, at least the official repositories are both yum/apt capable since FC5. Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. (H. Spencer) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOSS accounting software
Quoth Geoffrey S. Mendelson: Marc, do you remember the PC BIOS upgrade you downloaded almost 10 years ago the included in plain text SHEMA YISRAEL A.? I'm sure anyone a few kilometers to the east of us would have loved seeing that. :-) Yep. If I am not mistaken, it was in the BIOS fonts area... -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMWare and native Windows XP
to the initrd can solve the problem. Is it a way to achive same on Windows, i.e boot windows, which was installed native under VMWare ? Valery See this page for SCSI Disk Drivers http://www.vmware.com/download/server/drivers_tools.html Thank you for the pointer. I downloaded this file, create floppy from the image, boot into the Windows... And stupid question - what now ? I see nothing on this floppy that can be run, and control panel is not too cooperative. Valery. I vaguely remember solving a similar problem by booting into windows, installing the drivers and then booting back into Linux, loading vmware and booting into windows - should work. Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Maxim Veksler Free as in Freedom - Do u GNU ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Israel.pm] israel.pm meeting on 12/4/2007
Hi Shmuel! On Sunday 08 April 2007, Shmuel Fomberg wrote: Hi Shlomi. Would you or any other F5er would like to update the site directly? I'm getting tired of doing it, and want to delegate some responsibilities to people with less community involvement. A similar issue is publicising in time in Perl-IL, Linux-IL, Whatsup, Linmagazine, which I'd also like to delegate. The previous meeting had very little attendance due to an incredibly low publicity. Everyone dependended on me, and I thought it was unnecessary. (my mistake, I know, but at least we've learned from this experience) Why haven't you written a script by now, that post a message on all these boards? You are so under-productive. You are a programmer - program! Thanks for labelling me as under-productive. :-) As you may well know laziness is one of the three great virtues of a programmer. And besides it's not that simple - I need it in English for the mailing lists, and in Hebrew for the web sites, and I need to customise the content etc. And it's not very time-consuming. However, I feel that with my level of contribution to the FOSS world, I have much better things to contribute to my time than to publicise it, which any HTML-knowing kid can do. And some people practically don't do anything to Perl or FOSS, while I may be over-doing things a bit. What have you done for your country lately? If you don't want publicity for the meetings - fine - I'm not going to do it. If you do want, then someone will have to volunteer. In fact, I'm CCing this message to Linux-IL where some people may volunteer. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ If it's not in my E-mail it doesn't happen. And if my E-mail is saying one thing, and everything else says something else - E-mail will conquer. -- An Israeli Linuxer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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