Installing Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) on an existing LVM?

2007-10-26 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello,

I got a laptop from work on which I already managed to shrink the Windows
partitions and install Debian Etch with LVM.

But today I when I boot the Ubuntu 7.10 regular (as opposed to alternate)
desktop LiveCD I found that it doesn't recognize the LVM partition and
wouldn't let me do anything with it (I was planning on shrinking the Debian
partition and make room for another LV in the same VG).

I'm now downloading the alternate CD but was wondering whether someone can
give me a quick answer before I finish the (slow) download and burn/reboot
cycle - is it possible to install 7.10 into a new LV inside an existing VG?

Thanks,

--Amos


Re: Installing Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) on an existing LVM?

2007-10-26 Thread Oded Arbel

On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 17:44 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
 I'm now downloading the alternate CD but was wondering whether someone
 can give me a quick answer before I finish the (slow) download and
 burn/reboot cycle - is it possible to install 7.10 into a new LV
 inside an existing VG? 

Yes, using the alternate CD, but even then its not as easy as it can be.
Multiple LVM support in installers is a problem for most distros - for
example, the Fedora disk wizard is really bad in that it either puts
each drive in its own LVM or doesn't let you create more then one LVM
and you have no control over which is which except for the order that
you create partitions. OpenSuSE installer is a bit better but still very
confusing. I think that Mandriva's diskdrake is still the best
installer-bound disk partitioning and one of the best partitioning
software out there (gparted has slightly better interface) - which is
the reason why I always carry a Mandriva live CD with me even though its
no longer my recommended operating system.

The Ubuntu regular CD doesn't come with LVM support, mostly as it is
geared towards normal desktop users and LVM is considered an
enterprise feature by Canonical. Under the same vain, Ubuntu lacks
many other enterprise features which I need like LDAP authentication -
and that is currently the only reason I don't use it in my enterprise.

--
Oded



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Re: Installing Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) on an existing LVM?

2007-10-26 Thread Noam Meltzer
Hi,

The alternate CD is the only way to install ubuntu with LVM.
Only drawback is for less technical users who can't handle a
debian-style textual installer.

- Noam

On 10/26/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I got a laptop from work on which I already managed to shrink the Windows
 partitions and install Debian Etch with LVM.

 But today I when I boot the Ubuntu 7.10 regular (as opposed to alternate)
 desktop LiveCD I found that it doesn't recognize the LVM partition and
 wouldn't let me do anything with it (I was planning on shrinking the Debian
 partition and make room for another LV in the same VG).

 I'm now downloading the alternate CD but was wondering whether someone can
 give me a quick answer before I finish the (slow) download and burn/reboot
 cycle - is it possible to install 7.10 into a new LV inside an existing VG?

 Thanks,

 --Amos



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Re: Installing Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) on an existing LVM?

2007-10-26 Thread Noam Meltzer
Hi,

Specifically for the LVM issue on Ubuntu alternate installaiton:
I found it quite featureful (I installed my laptop that way *and* use
LVM), though as I said, the installer is debian based, and it might
not be intuitive for the regular user.

- Noam

On 10/26/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 17:44 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
  I'm now downloading the alternate CD but was wondering whether someone
  can give me a quick answer before I finish the (slow) download and
  burn/reboot cycle - is it possible to install 7.10 into a new LV
  inside an existing VG?

 Yes, using the alternate CD, but even then its not as easy as it can be.
 Multiple LVM support in installers is a problem for most distros - for
 example, the Fedora disk wizard is really bad in that it either puts
 each drive in its own LVM or doesn't let you create more then one LVM
 and you have no control over which is which except for the order that
 you create partitions. OpenSuSE installer is a bit better but still very
 confusing. I think that Mandriva's diskdrake is still the best
 installer-bound disk partitioning and one of the best partitioning
 software out there (gparted has slightly better interface) - which is
 the reason why I always carry a Mandriva live CD with me even though its
 no longer my recommended operating system.

 The Ubuntu regular CD doesn't come with LVM support, mostly as it is
 geared towards normal desktop users and LVM is considered an
 enterprise feature by Canonical. Under the same vain, Ubuntu lacks
 many other enterprise features which I need like LDAP authentication -
 and that is currently the only reason I don't use it in my enterprise.

 --
 Oded



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Re: Installing Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) on an existing LVM?

2007-10-26 Thread Amos Shapira
On 26/10/2007, Noam Meltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 The alternate CD is the only way to install ubuntu with LVM.
 Only drawback is for less technical users who can't handle a
 debian-style textual installer.


Thanks to you and Oded for the quick response. I now have the CD burned and
am waiting for an opportunity to use it (kid comes first)

Cheers,

--Amos