[midgard] Re: hosting

2000-04-03 Thread Carilda Thomas

We can provide you with a Tier 1 host (directly uplinked to a peering
point) in the US with one of our strategic partners who hosts many
overseas sites.

If you would like to test the responsiveness, check out
www.e-technologies.com (still beta, but up), which resides there.

We can lease you  a dedicated server, preconfigured with midgard and
mysql.  If you prefer (as we do) to service non-midgard database storage
with a database other than mysql, let us know.  You can have your choice
of Sparc-Solaris or Intel-Linux (choose your linux flavor).  If you give
us some idea of the expected server load, we would recommend the
configuration you require.

If you are expecting really intense use, we can provide clustering and
failover also.

I cannot give you a price without knowing more about your specific
requirements, and when would you want this?  The earliest we could
install would be next week (since today is already Friday).

For smaller sites, we will be bringing up our first multi-site midgard
host within the next week or two.

Carilda A. Thomas
E Technologies, Inc.
Phone: 215-489-1113
Fax: 215-489-1124



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Re: [midgard] Allowing nobody to create topic/article

2000-04-03 Thread [ IGP Internet ]

Someone once said - "ask and ye shall be answered" :)
Thanks Emile.

Vanja

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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [midgard] Allowing nobody to create topic/article


 Vanja Bertalan wrote:
  Is there a way to allow unregistered user to create topic/article. This
  would be convenient if we wanted to create some kind of link submission
  system or such.
  What I have in mind is: user nobody faces a html form through which he
  creates some kind of content (without looking under the hood, of
course).
  After he's done, content he created is in DB but either locked or not
  approved, and the webmaster gets an email note about submission. After
  webmaster unlocks/approves content, it becomes visible to public...

 You can do the equivalent of a 'su' by using
 mgd_auth_midgard(username, password, 0). This will change the notion of
 current user to the given username; I suggest a user setup specifically
 only
 owning the topic tree you want public submissions to. The last 0
 suppresses
 the cookie that this function normally sends but which would put the
 password
 in the users' cookie file.

 After you've created the topic/article/etc you can re-anonimize by doing
 mgd_auth_midgard("", "", 0);

 The same page that accepts the submission can send mail to the webmaster
 by means of the mail functions available in PHP.

 Articles are not marked approved or locked by default, so you can check
 in
 your display logic whether the flag is set. The midgard list functions
 will not filter them out automatically.

 Emile

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Re: [midgard] Allowing nobody to create topic/article

2000-04-03 Thread [ IGP Internet ]

Someone once said - "ask and ye shall be answered" :)
Thanks Emile.

Vanja

- Original Message -
From: Emiliano Heyns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [midgard] Allowing nobody to create topic/article


 Vanja Bertalan wrote:
  Is there a way to allow unregistered user to create topic/article. This
  would be convenient if we wanted to create some kind of link submission
  system or such.
  What I have in mind is: user nobody faces a html form through which he
  creates some kind of content (without looking under the hood, of
course).
  After he's done, content he created is in DB but either locked or not
  approved, and the webmaster gets an email note about submission. After
  webmaster unlocks/approves content, it becomes visible to public...

 You can do the equivalent of a 'su' by using
 mgd_auth_midgard(username, password, 0). This will change the notion of
 current user to the given username; I suggest a user setup specifically
 only
 owning the topic tree you want public submissions to. The last 0
 suppresses
 the cookie that this function normally sends but which would put the
 password
 in the users' cookie file.

 After you've created the topic/article/etc you can re-anonimize by doing
 mgd_auth_midgard("", "", 0);

 The same page that accepts the submission can send mail to the webmaster
 by means of the mail functions available in PHP.

 Articles are not marked approved or locked by default, so you can check
 in
 your display logic whether the flag is set. The midgard list functions
 will not filter them out automatically.

 Emile

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[midgard] Active Pages and non Existing Urls

2000-04-03 Thread Torben Nehmer

Hi.

I have defined some active pages. While the whole thing works fine I have
one Problem. Let's say the active page is reachable under /nathan/ If
you give him an URL that doesn't exist, he brings the standard-page,
because my code init doesen create an article id. Sure, I could create an
custom error-message to handle this. But this doesn't work with search
engines. How can I configure an active page so that an search-engine/bot
recognizes that the page in question doesn't exist anymore? So that
/nathan/some_rubbish.html results in a regular apache-not-found page.

Live long and prosper!
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RE: [midgard] Active Pages and non Existing Urls

2000-04-03 Thread P . Gillingwater

I suspect that the key to this lies in the HTTP headers, which
you can access via PHP.  You need to send a 404 Not Found error.
Use the PHP header() function as a code init element before 
any other code is output.
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-Original Message-
From: Torben Nehmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 00:07
To: Midgard Mailing-Liste
Subject: [midgard] Active Pages and non Existing Urls


Hi.

I have defined some active pages. While the whole thing works fine I have
one Problem. Let's say the active page is reachable under /nathan/ If
you give him an URL that doesn't exist, he brings the standard-page,
because my code init doesen create an article id. Sure, I could create an
custom error-message to handle this. But this doesn't work with search
engines. How can I configure an active page so that an search-engine/bot
recognizes that the page in question doesn't exist anymore? So that
/nathan/some_rubbish.html results in a regular apache-not-found page.

Live long and prosper!
Torben Nehmer

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[midgard] question for midgard-lib documentataion (resent)

2000-04-03 Thread Ami Ganguli

(I don't think my original post made it through to the list, but please excuse
me if this is a duplicate.)

The current version of mgd_init and mgd_done (from CVS) actually initialize
and free parser structures. I assume the intent is that any initialization and
shutdown code should go here.

Is it correct to say that "mgd_init" should be called before using any
functions except "mgd_version" and "mgd_lib_match"? Is "mgd_done" guaranteed
to free all resources associated with Midgard Lib?

Thanks,
Ami.


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Re: [midgard] Founding a Midgard nonprofit (continued)

2000-04-03 Thread Henri Bergius

On 30 Mar, Emiliano Heyns wrote:
 If under "The Midgard Project, Ry", probably. But nothing's keeping
 any person or firm from offering Midgard consulting, so even if
 "we" want to go commercial, we can do so.

Yes. The idea of the nonprofit is just to
provide the infrastructure (servers, mailing
lists, etc) for the project and ensure that
all parties involved have equal opportunities
in using Midgard and doing business with it.

I feel that doing things like consulting work
under the nonprofit would erode this idea badly.

Rather, if some people from the developer team
want to start doing business with Midgard, they
can do so as a separate entity, so that the
nonprofit can be kept neutral business-wise.

 Emile

/Bergie

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[midgard] Lost URLs

2000-04-03 Thread Chari Daignault

I've gotten the Midgard system up and running just fine. The only problem
I'm having is when I create a new root page and new top level page and
content pages, and reference the correct article and topic numbers for the
url creation, the system still can't find/create the pages.

The admin site and example site work fine, though. I'm referencing the topic
and article numbers from the midgard database... not sure what's up. Has
anyone had this problem?

Chari
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Re: [midgard] Founding a Midgard nonprofit (continued)

2000-04-03 Thread Henri Bergius

On 30 Mar, Emiliano Heyns wrote:
 On the topic of assets: I propose we have a clause in our regulations
 stating that if we are ever to disband "The Midgard Project, Ry", any
 assets remaining are donated to charity.

Under the Finnish law, the possible disbanding is
decided by a general meeting of the organization.
Usually the regulations state that the assets
of the organization are at that point donated
onwards to advancement of the organization's goals.

For us, that could mean that if the organization
were disbanded, the copyrights could be donated
to for example FSF.

However, I think it is better to have nothing
of where the donations should go at that event
written down to the regulations, but rather let
the general meeting decide that following some
guidelines set by the rules.

Reading from example regulations provided by
the bureau (Sääntömalli I - quick translation):

12. Modifications to regulations and disbanding of
the organization

The decision on modifying the regulations or
disbanding the organization has to be made
by a general meeting with at least three
quarters (3/4) majority vote. The meeting
invitation has to include a mention on modifying
rules or disbanding the organization.

In the event of disbanding the organization
its assets are used to advance the organization's
purposes in a way decided by the disbanding meeting.
When the organization is disbanded its financial
assets are also used on that same purpose.


Of course, I'm operating here on the notion that
we shouldn't be wanting to disband the organization
anytime soon. :-)

 Emile.

/Bergie

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Re: [midgard] Founding a Midgard nonprofit (continued)

2000-04-03 Thread Emiliano Heyns

Henri Bergius wrote:

 Yes. The idea of the nonprofit is just to
 provide the infrastructure (servers, mailing
 lists, etc) for the project and ensure that
 all parties involved have equal opportunities
 in using Midgard and doing business with it.
 
 I feel that doing things like consulting work
 under the nonprofit would erode this idea badly.

Also, the non-profit would likely be liable for mishaps
that may heppen while someone operates under its name.

Emile

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Re: [midgard] Founding a Midgard nonprofit (continued)

2000-04-03 Thread Emiliano Heyns

Henri Bergius wrote:

 Under the Finnish law, the possible disbanding is
 decided by a general meeting of the organization.
 Usually the regulations state that the assets
 of the organization are at that point donated
 onwards to advancement of the organization's goals.
 
 For us, that could mean that if the organization
 were disbanded, the copyrights could be donated
 to for example FSF.

Works for me. But I was thinking more in the line of
tangible assets. FSF works here too, I think.

 However, I think it is better to have nothing
 of where the donations should go at that event
 written down to the regulations, but rather let
 the general meeting decide that following some
 guidelines set by the rules.

I wasn't proposing picking a charity _now_ :) The
'advancement' clause is close enough for me.

 Of course, I'm operating here on the notion that
 we shouldn't be wanting to disband the organization
 anytime soon. :-)

*grin* of course. But no 'advancement' clause is required in .nl
and I've seen non-profits end in petty arguments over this thing.

Emile

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[midgard] Mail problems over the weekend

2000-04-03 Thread Emiliano Heyns

There must be some kind of curse on our mailinglist.

During the weekend the mi-recordz server (which forwards mail for the
greywolves.org domain) froze solid for a reason as yet undetermined.
This
is why you all got to enjoy a quiet weekend with opportunities to catch
up on your social life :)

The server is back up now, we're still looking for the cause.

Emile

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RE: [midgard] Mail problems over the weekend

2000-04-03 Thread Ken Pooley

But this is my social life...without it I had to mow the lawn and drag 
piles of dirt all over the place for my 4 year old to grow food she won't 
eat.

kp

-Original Message-
From:   Emiliano Heyns [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, April 03, 2000 2:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[midgard] Mail problems over the weekend

There must be some kind of curse on our mailinglist.

During the weekend the mi-recordz server (which forwards mail for the
greywolves.org domain) froze solid for a reason as yet undetermined.
This
is why you all got to enjoy a quiet weekend with opportunities to catch
up on your social life :)

The server is back up now, we're still looking for the cause.

Emile

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Re: [midgard] Mail problems over the weekend

2000-04-03 Thread emile

On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Carilda Thomas wrote:

 What's a "social life"?  Is this a new midgard function?  Will it be in
 1.4 or do we have to wait for 2.0?

MGD_GET_SOCIAL_LIFE(PHP)

NAME

   mgd_get_social_life - force social life on caller

SYNOPSYS

   void mgd_get_social_life();

DESCRIPTION

   mgd_get_social_life gracefully brings down the webserver and will
   only allow it to be restarted when presented with a written permission
   by your SO, or upon detection of considerable beer smell about you
   and a hicky on either the neck or cheek. More of the latter can be
   applied but are not necessary for restarting.

RETURN VALUE

   if you're lucky, you don't.

ERRORS

   EINVAL  you are not compatible with social_life (geekus terminalus).

BUGS

   The shutdown is immediate and without consistency checks. This may
   cause race conditions with your supervisor if the server that has been
   shutdown was mission critical, or hosted her daughters' site (same).

   social_life has no bounds checking, and can be dangerous when combined
   with too much of the beverages required for restart.

SEE ALSO

   http://lalaland.cl.msu.edu/~vanhoose/humor/0557.html
   http://lalaland.cl.msu.edu/~vanhoose/humor/0036.html
   http://lalaland.cl.msu.edu/~vanhoose/humor/0558.html
   http://lalaland.cl.msu.edu/~vanhoose/humor/0559.html


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