RE: [old-chevy-truck] converting three spd on colum to floor shift

2007-08-06 Thread K Ohlgren
marc
as i read your e-mail, you want to convert to a 3 on-the-floor, not convert 
to a 4 speed. yes it can be done, buy a floor shifter from an autoparts 
store, wack a hole in the floor and install it. 1) you will need to make or 
modify the brackets to attach the shifter to the trans. 2) if you have a 
bench seat, you will need to modify the shift lever or do with only 1st  
3rd. 3) you'll never get 3 people in your cab again. sounds like a lot of 
work, why not fix the 3 on-the-tree? it would be easier and cost less too. 
you might need to buy the column part from a junk yard or someone on this 
list, then re-bush all the rods. it will shift like a new truck.

Kurt
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Group -- I need some advice  I recently bought a '50 Chevy 1/2 ton with
a 235 (from a '56) and 3-on-the-tree.  The braket that hold the shift
handle on the cloum is worn (the threads) and it's very difficult to
shift.  I can't see an easy way to repair this and I think I may just
put a floor shift in.  I'm a complete novice but I learn fast.  What do
you recommend?

Thanks in advance!
Marc in Cheyenne
'50 Chevy 1/2 ton
'50 GMC 3/4 ton
'75 Triumph TR6


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Re: [old-chevy-truck] converting three spd on colum to floor shift

2007-08-06 Thread Alan Lubow
I'm with Kurt on this.  But it might be even easier than all that.  First, 
check to see if your shifter linkage arms are adjusted correctly.  You'll need 
a manual for this, unless someone here has a link to the procedure.  With the 
drawing and instructions in front of you it isn't all that hard and you'll be 
amazed how much difference this makes.  You may also need to pop the shift box 
cover and put some lube in there -- you use that same white Lubriplate grease 
that they use to coat new bearings when they rebuild a motor, any auto parts 
store will have this.  If you need to rebuild/rebush your column shifter where 
it mounts up by the steering wheel I can't help you there since I haven't done 
it.  But there should be a write up by someone who has (Deve, or Billy Bob?)

Alan
1950 1/2 ton
Denver 
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  marc
  as i read your e-mail, you want to convert to a 3 on-the-floor, not convert 
  to a 4 speed. yes it can be done, buy a floor shifter from an autoparts 
  store, wack a hole in the floor and install it. 1) you will need to make or 
  modify the brackets to attach the shifter to the trans. 2) if you have a 
  bench seat, you will need to modify the shift lever or do with only 1st  
  3rd. 3) you'll never get 3 people in your cab again. sounds like a lot of 
  work, why not fix the 3 on-the-tree? it would be easier and cost less too. 
  you might need to buy the column part from a junk yard or someone on this 
  list, then re-bush all the rods. it will shift like a new truck.

  Kurt
  58 3100 Apache project
  the Duracell Project it keeps going... and going...

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  Subject: [old-chevy-truck] converting three spd on colum to floor shift
  Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:43:28 -
  
  Group -- I need some advice I recently bought a '50 Chevy 1/2 ton with
  a 235 (from a '56) and 3-on-the-tree. The braket that hold the shift
  handle on the cloum is worn (the threads) and it's very difficult to
  shift. I can't see an easy way to repair this and I think I may just
  put a floor shift in. I'm a complete novice but I learn fast. What do
  you recommend?
  
  Thanks in advance!
  Marc in Cheyenne
  '50 Chevy 1/2 ton
  '50 GMC 3/4 ton
  '75 Triumph TR6
  

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[old-chevy-truck] converting three spd on colum to floor shift

2007-08-05 Thread mdpic
Group -- I need some advice  I recently bought a '50 Chevy 1/2 ton with 
a 235 (from a '56) and 3-on-the-tree.  The braket that hold the shift 
handle on the cloum is worn (the threads) and it's very difficult to 
shift.  I can't see an easy way to repair this and I think I may just 
put a floor shift in.  I'm a complete novice but I learn fast.  What do 
you recommend?

Thanks in advance!
Marc in Cheyenne
'50 Chevy 1/2 ton
'50 GMC 3/4 ton
'75 Triumph TR6



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RE: [old-chevy-truck] converting three spd on colum to floor shift

2007-08-05 Thread Deve
The only problem with doing this that I can see, and I have friends who also
want to do this, is the floor pan. The 4 speed pans are very rare. Im sure
you could fabricate one with some difficulty, but to my knowledge, there is
no repro 4 speed pan. Does anyone know better?

I have several 3 on the tree trucks and the only reason I can see for this
arrangement is to give the passengers more room. It was a cumbersome, and
kind of uncoordinated with all of the bushings, linkages, etc and made for
sloppy shifting, but there must have been a call for it. If I could do it
more easily, all but one would be 4 on the floor. 

Another issue with doing this is the 4 speed tranny. The common ones have
gear ratios that make the truck max at 45 or 50 no matter how much
horsepower you have. I hear there is a muncie that is better that way, but
not sure if the dimensions are such that its just simple replacement, or if
you have to lengthen or shorten the driveline. Others can add to this. Also
I don't know the availabilty and cost of that tranny.

Deve
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Subject: [old-chevy-truck] converting three spd on colum to floor shift

Group -- I need some advice  I recently bought a '50 Chevy 1/2 ton with a
235 (from a '56) and 3-on-the-tree.  The braket that hold the shift handle
on the cloum is worn (the threads) and it's very difficult to shift.  I
can't see an easy way to repair this and I think I may just put a floor
shift in.  I'm a complete novice but I learn fast.  What do you recommend?

Thanks in advance!
Marc in Cheyenne
'50 Chevy 1/2 ton
'50 GMC 3/4 ton
'75 Triumph TR6



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Re: [old-chevy-truck] converting three spd on colum to floor shift

2007-08-05 Thread Steve Hanberg
All the transmissions that were originally available in these trucks have the 
same ratio in their highest gears and result in the same top speed.  High gear 
is direct 1:1 in all of them.  Its the gears in the rear axle that limit max 
speed. 


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Re: [old-chevy-truck] converting three spd on colum to floor shift

2007-08-05 Thread charles olson
Patrick's Antique Trucks in Casa Grande AZ sells an
upgrade rear end gear kit that  allows our AD's to
cruise at 60 MPH.   


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--- Steve Hanberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All the transmissions that were originally available
 in these trucks have the same ratio in their highest
 gears and result in the same top speed.  High gear
 is direct 1:1 in all of them.  Its the gears in the
 rear axle that limit max speed. 
 
 
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   Another issue with doing this is the 4 speed
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