Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Discussion of xfce desktop task for d-i
On Fri,03.Apr.09, 20:31:45, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi, I was wondering what happened to the discussion of what was going to be included in the desktop task for xfce (in d-i tasksel), as I had seen that it was supposed to head to this list, but I wasn't on the list at the point and I can't seem to find the discussion in the archives. I promised to send a summary here, but for some unknown (PEBKAC) reason I only sent it to Yves. Here it is: On Wed,18.Mar.09, 23:04:25, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: Andrei, could you please post a summary to pkg-xfce mailing list, with what you think would be nice to have or nice to not have on the xfce task? Ok, so here is a summary for those not reading debian-boot. After a recent install with desktop=xfce I found some pieces missing and others a bit unexpected. Here is my very personal opinion on this. 1. No icon on the desktop for removable drives due to missing 'hal'. I understand this is pending so probably doesn't need more discussion. 2. GUI package manager: I prefer aptitude for myself, but a GUI one is definitely necessary and synaptic is the obvious choice (at least until aptitude-gtk is ready, when the discussion can be reopened) 3. IM client: my first thought was pidgin, but seeing that it wants to install 20 additional packages I reconsidered. After a quick search I found ayttm, which at the first glance seems quite usable. (edit: one quirk about ayttm is that you can't write to people who are offline, even if that person is in fact only invisible and just wrote you something. I'll file a bug.) 4. Document viewer: epdfview makes a good pdf viewer. OTOH, evince-gtk supports additional formats (ps, eps, djvu and dvi)... 5. Image viewer: my personal preference is gpicview. Xavier Oswald suggested mirage which could also be an option. Ristretto is currently not very usable, IMHO, but this could change. 6. Image editor: gimp is installed by default, but is seems a bit heavy to me (well, at least having an image viewer will mean it's not opened by default if I double-click an image) and would suggest something like gpaint. (edit: it seems the default for KDE is kolourpaint, which according to the description is (much?) simpler than Gimp) 7. Productivity: openoffice.org is pulled by the generic Desktop task (AFAICT). For me personally this is a bit heavy an I would rather only have Abiword+Gnumeric. and a point raised by Yves-Alexis: 8. www browser: One stuff I'll have to think about, too, is the browser. I'd be glad to drop iceweasel for midori once webkit is stabilized (especially since midori is now officially some kind of an xfce project) but maybe the user expects iceweasel to be there on a desktop task. That or we could drop it from the desktop task and let every *-task define the preferred brother (epiphany/konqueror/midori/=E2=80=A6) (edit: AFAICT KDE and Gnome are using Konqueror and Epiphany by default, even if Iceweasel is present) I've been experimenting with midori from time to time, but unfortunately it is very unstable, crashing randomly. I would not miss iceweasel too much, except for the vimperator extension ;) Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] xfconf override disparity
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:20:28AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On ven, 2009-04-03 at 23:02 +, Debian Installer wrote: There are disparities between your recently accepted upload and the override file for the following file(s): libxfconf-0-2-dbg_4.6.0-3_amd64.deb: package says section is debug, override says libs. libxfconf-0-2_4.6.0-3_amd64.deb: package says section is xfce, override says libs. libxfconf-0-dev_4.6.0-3_amd64.deb: package says section is xfce, override says libdevel. [...] -dbg package is debug indeed. I'm not sure about libxfconf and libxfconf-dev. Should them be in xfce or in libs? libs and libdevel are correct. Gruesse, -- Frank Lichtenheld dj...@debian.org www: http://www.djpig.de/ ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#522517: xfce4-systemload-plugin: Not showing an memory or swap usage anymore
Package: xfce4-systemload-plugin Version: 0.4.2-2 Severity: normal With update to new kernel and XFCE 4.6 it appears the plugin is not showing the usage of memory and wap anymore. -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.29-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages xfce4-systemload-plugin depends on: ii libatk1.0-0 1.24.0-2 The ATK accessibility toolkit ii libc6 2.9-6 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libcairo2 1.8.6-2+b1 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libglib2.0-0 2.20.0-2 The GLib library of C routines ii libgtk2.0-0 2.16.0-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libpango1.0-0 1.24.0-2 Layout and rendering of internatio ii libxfce4util4 4.6.0-2Utility functions library for Xfce ii libxfcegui4-4 4.6.0-2Basic GUI C functions for Xfce4 ii xfce4-panel 4.6.0-2The Xfce4 desktop environment pane xfce4-systemload-plugin recommends no packages. xfce4-systemload-plugin suggests no packages. -- no debconf information ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] mousepad override disparity
On sam, 2009-04-04 at 00:17 +, Debian Installer wrote: mousepad_0.2.16-2_amd64.deb: package says section is xfce, override says editors. Please note that a list of new sections were recently added to the archive: cli-mono, database, debug, fonts, gnu-r, gnustep, haskell, httpd, java, kernel, lisp, localization, ocaml, php, ruby, vcs, video, xfce, zope. At this time a script was used to reclassify packages into these sections. If this is the case, please only reply to this email if the new section is inappropriate, otherwise please update your package at the next upload. Either the package or the override file is incorrect. If you think the override is correct and the package wrong please fix the package so that this disparity is fixed in the next upload. If you feel the override is incorrect then please reply to this mail and explain why. Please INCLUDE the list of packages as seen above, or we won't be able to deal with your mail due to missing information. Hey, mousepad is xfce section too, could you change the override then? Thanks in advance :) Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
[Pkg-xfce-devel] Processed: notfound 487311 in 0.4.1-1
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: notfound 487311 0.4.1-1 Bug#487311: xfburn: limits volume label to 13 chars (MS-DOS length) rather than allowing ISO length (63 chars) Bug no longer marked as found in version 0.4.1-1. (By the way, this Bug is currently marked as done.) End of message, stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#522303: Bug#522303: tagging 522303
On ven, 2009-04-03 at 22:49 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: # Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.10.35lenny3 # I cant reproduce this with the unstable version, but I have had this problem before and been unable to reproduce it, so I dont know if it is solved or merely intermittent, therfore tagging unreproducible but leaving open tags 522303 + unreproducible Thanks for testing. Please report back any problem (or lack of) so we can investigate more if you can, or close it if there's no problem in a while. Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Discussion of xfce desktop task for d-i
On sam, 2009-04-04 at 11:01 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: 1. No icon on the desktop for removable drives due to missing 'hal'. I understand this is pending so probably doesn't need more discussion. Yes, Squeeze Xfce desktop will definitely bring hal. 2. GUI package manager: I prefer aptitude for myself, but a GUI one is definitely necessary and synaptic is the obvious choice (at least until aptitude-gtk is ready, when the discussion can be reopened) I'm not really against a package manager in the default install, I'm just don't sure if it should be in desktop or xfce-desktop. Is there a KDE package manager? Because there is no xfce specific package manager (well, besides xfce4-smartpm-plugin which is not yet uploaded and may never be) 3. IM client: my first thought was pidgin, but seeing that it wants to install 20 additional packages I reconsidered. After a quick search I found ayttm, which at the first glance seems quite usable. Yeah, a default install kind-of require that, agreed. Pidgin is nice and doesn't require that many packages. But it requires gconf so it's not really a good idea (though we already use gdm in that install, so we already have it :/) (edit: one quirk about ayttm is that you can't write to people who are offline, even if that person is in fact only invisible and just wrote you something. I'll file a bug.) 4. Document viewer: epdfview makes a good pdf viewer. OTOH, evince-gtk supports additional formats (ps, eps, djvu and dvi)... evince-gtk is gone (the only rationale for evince-gtk was to drop the dep on libgnome, which evince has not anymore, but it still depends on libgnome-keyring and gconf). For me I'd prefer epdfview, even if it's a bit rhough. 5. Image viewer: my personal preference is gpicview. Xavier Oswald suggested mirage which could also be an option. Ristretto is currently not very usable, IMHO, but this could change. Could you retry the 0.21 version in unstable (and maybe report the bugs we talked about upstream). Mirage is nice but ristretto (which started as a mirage fork iirc) is an Xfce project, so it'd be consistent. 6. Image editor: gimp is installed by default, but is seems a bit heavy to me (well, at least having an image viewer will mean it's not opened by default if I double-click an image) and would suggest something like gpaint. (edit: it seems the default for KDE is kolourpaint, which according to the description is (much?) simpler than Gimp) But gimp is brought by the desktop task, not by xfce-desktop task. 7. Productivity: openoffice.org is pulled by the generic Desktop task (AFAICT). For me personally this is a bit heavy an I would rather only have Abiword+Gnumeric. But abiword and gnumeric are gnome apps, they'll bring to many stuff I guess. and a point raised by Yves-Alexis: 8. www browser: One stuff I'll have to think about, too, is the browser. I'd be glad to drop iceweasel for midori once webkit is stabilized (especially since midori is now officially some kind of an xfce project) but maybe the user expects iceweasel to be there on a desktop task. That or we could drop it from the desktop task and let every *-task define the preferred brother (epiphany/konqueror/midori/=E2=80=A6) (edit: AFAICT KDE and Gnome are using Konqueror and Epiphany by default, even if Iceweasel is present) So I guess we could add midori to the list (and make it the default where possible), but still keep iceweasel in the desktop task. Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Discussion of xfce desktop task for d-i
On ven, 2009-04-03 at 20:31 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi, I was wondering what happened to the discussion of what was going to be included in the desktop task for xfce (in d-i tasksel), as I had seen that it was supposed to head to this list, but I wasn't on the list at the point and I can't seem to find the discussion in the archives. Something which can help on this is: http://wiki.xfce.org/de/recommendedapps Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#522517: Bug#522517: xfce4-systemload-plugin: Not showing an memory or swap usage anymore
tag 522517 confirmed thanks On sam, 2009-04-04 at 13:29 +0200, Frank Lanitz wrote: With update to new kernel and XFCE 4.6 it appears the plugin is not showing the usage of memory and wap anymore. Definitely :) I'll report upstream, stay tuned. -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
[Pkg-xfce-devel] Processed: Re: Bug#522517: Bug#522517: xfce4-systemload-plugin: Not showing an memory or swap usage anymore
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[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#522517: Bug#522517: Bug#522517: xfce4-systemload-plugin: Not showing an memory or swap usage anymore
tag 522517 -confirmed thanks On sam, 2009-04-04 at 14:30 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: With update to new kernel and XFCE 4.6 it appears the plugin is not showing the usage of memory and wap anymore. Definitely :) I'll report upstream, stay tuned. Uh, oh, wait. No. In fact it works fine, I just had too fee swap used so it didn't appear on the progressbar. But it works fine. Even tooltips don't show anything? Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
[Pkg-xfce-devel] Processing of thunar-volman_0.3.80-2_amd64.changes
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[Pkg-xfce-devel] thunar-volman_0.3.80-2_amd64.changes ACCEPTED
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[Pkg-xfce-devel] Processed: [bts-link] source package xfce4-clipman-plugin
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Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Discussion of xfce desktop task for d-i
On Sat,04.Apr.09, 14:29:43, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: 2. GUI package manager: I prefer aptitude for myself, but a GUI one is definitely necessary and synaptic is the obvious choice (at least until aptitude-gtk is ready, when the discussion can be reopened) I'm not really against a package manager in the default install, I'm just don't sure if it should be in desktop or xfce-desktop. Is there a KDE package manager? Because there is no xfce specific package manager (well, besides xfce4-smartpm-plugin which is not yet uploaded and may never be) KDE has kpackage. 3. IM client: my first thought was pidgin, but seeing that it wants to install 20 additional packages I reconsidered. After a quick search I found ayttm, which at the first glance seems quite usable. Yeah, a default install kind-of require that, agreed. Pidgin is nice and doesn't require that many packages. But it requires gconf so it's not really a good idea (though we already use gdm in that install, so we already have it :/) What do you think about ayttm? (edit: one quirk about ayttm is that you can't write to people who are offline, even if that person is in fact only invisible and just wrote you something. I'll file a bug.) #522498 4. Document viewer: epdfview makes a good pdf viewer. OTOH, evince-gtk supports additional formats (ps, eps, djvu and dvi)... evince-gtk is gone (the only rationale for evince-gtk was to drop the dep on libgnome, which evince has not anymore, but it still depends on libgnome-keyring and gconf). For me I'd prefer epdfview, even if it's a bit rhough. It's fine with me, I just wanted to point out that some formats not unusual on Linux (.ps and .dvi) are not supported. 5. Image viewer: my personal preference is gpicview. Xavier Oswald suggested mirage which could also be an option. Ristretto is currently not very usable, IMHO, but this could change. Could you retry the 0.21 version in unstable (and maybe report the bugs we talked about upstream). Mirage is nice but ristretto (which started as a mirage fork iirc) is an Xfce project, so it'd be consistent. I'm running 4.6 since a few hours ;) The could not open file message is gone, but all other points are still valid, even if they are only related to usability. I'll file whishlist bugs upstream when I get around it. 6. Image editor: gimp is installed by default, but is seems a bit heavy to me (well, at least having an image viewer will mean it's not opened by default if I double-click an image) and would suggest something like gpaint. (edit: it seems the default for KDE is kolourpaint, which according to the description is (much?) simpler than Gimp) But gimp is brought by the desktop task, not by xfce-desktop task. Yes, together with iceweasel and openoffice.org :/ Do you think people would oppose removing the stuff from the desktop task and let every DE chose for itself? 7. Productivity: openoffice.org is pulled by the generic Desktop task (AFAICT). For me personally this is a bit heavy an I would rather only have Abiword+Gnumeric. But abiword and gnumeric are gnome apps, they'll bring to many stuff I guess. More than the entire OpenOffice.org? and a point raised by Yves-Alexis: 8. www browser: One stuff I'll have to think about, too, is the browser. I'd be glad to drop iceweasel for midori once webkit is stabilized (especially since midori is now officially some kind of an xfce project) but maybe the user expects iceweasel to be there on a desktop task. That or we could drop it from the desktop task and let every *-task define the preferred brother (epiphany/konqueror/midori/=E2=80=A6) (edit: AFAICT KDE and Gnome are using Konqueror and Epiphany by default, even if Iceweasel is present) So I guess we could add midori to the list (and make it the default where possible), but still keep iceweasel in the desktop task. Sounds ok. Maybe midori will get more audience this way (which might help fix some bugs). BTW, how can I make a useful bugreport about the random crashes I've seen? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Discussion of xfce desktop task for d-i
On sam, 2009-04-04 at 19:27 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: 3. IM client: my first thought was pidgin, but seeing that it wants to install 20 additional packages I reconsidered. After a quick search I found ayttm, which at the first glance seems quite usable. Yeah, a default install kind-of require that, agreed. Pidgin is nice and doesn't require that many packages. But it requires gconf so it's not really a good idea (though we already use gdm in that install, so we already have it :/) What do you think about ayttm? I just installed it, will try it and report. 4. Document viewer: epdfview makes a good pdf viewer. OTOH, evince-gtk supports additional formats (ps, eps, djvu and dvi)... evince-gtk is gone (the only rationale for evince-gtk was to drop the dep on libgnome, which evince has not anymore, but it still depends on libgnome-keyring and gconf). For me I'd prefer epdfview, even if it's a bit rhough. It's fine with me, I just wanted to point out that some formats not unusual on Linux (.ps and .dvi) are not supported. Yes, but people usually needs a pdf viewer (which epdfview is) before a multi-format preview app (like evince). Which can be installed if user really needs it :) Yes, together with iceweasel and openoffice.org :/ Do you think people would oppose removing the stuff from the desktop task and let every DE chose for itself? I don't think they would oppose strongly, it's just that the discussion needs to happens elsewhere I guess (on the desktop list for example). 7. Productivity: openoffice.org is pulled by the generic Desktop task (AFAICT). For me personally this is a bit heavy an I would rather only have Abiword+Gnumeric. But abiword and gnumeric are gnome apps, they'll bring to many stuff I guess. More than the entire OpenOffice.org? More dependencies, yeah, maybe. And OO.o wether we like it or not, is expected to be there on default office installs (a bit like iceweasel). Remember that we speak of the default install, for the most users. Advanced user can still (and I usually do like that) install manually. Or remove the packages after install. So I guess we could add midori to the list (and make it the default where possible), but still keep iceweasel in the desktop task. Sounds ok. Maybe midori will get more audience this way (which might help fix some bugs). Yes, correct. BTW, how can I make a useful bugreport about the random crashes I've seen? We (pkg-xfce) don't maintain midori, so you can either report bugs on the debian package, or directly report them on xfce bugzilla, which should have a midori component. Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Discussion of xfce desktop task for d-i
On sam, 2009-04-04 at 18:39 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: What do you think about ayttm? I just installed it, will try it and report. I find it really ugly, and not really intuitive. I usually use pidgin, gajim or empathy which are way nicer (but have all their problems which make them not really suitable for xfce-desktop task. CHeers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel
[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#522517: Bug#522517: Bug#522517: xfce4-systemload-plugin: Not showing an memory or swap usage anymore
On Sat, April 4, 2009 12:41 pm, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: tag 522517 -confirmed thanks On sam, 2009-04-04 at 14:30 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: With update to new kernel and XFCE 4.6 it appears the plugin is not showing the usage of memory and wap anymore. Definitely :) I'll report upstream, stay tuned. Uh, oh, wait. No. In fact it works fine, I just had too fee swap used so it didn't appear on the progressbar. But it works fine. I only got one normal swap here. But there are 4GB of RAM inside the machine. Even tooltips don't show anything? No tooltip at all when moving mouse over. Cheers, Frank ___ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list Pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel