Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 18/05/2015 12:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2015 08:18 pm, alister wrote:


On Mon, 18 May 2015 15:21:05 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:


As part of Red Hat's move to Python 3, yum is officially deprecated and
replaced by dnf:

http://dnf.baseurl.org/2015/05/11/yum-is-dead-long-live-dnf/

Quote:

 Yum would not survive the “Python 3 as default” Fedora initiative
 meanwhile DNF is able to run on Python 2 and Python 3.



Poor choice of name DNF= Did Not Finish


:-)

Computer programs, like art, are never finished, merely abandoned.

Except for TeX, of course, which upon Donald Knuth's death will be released
as version π and all remaining bugs declared to be features.



I didn't realise that there is an emoticon depicting Stonehenge, thanks 
for that :)


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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread alister
On Mon, 18 May 2015 15:08:07 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:

 On 05/18/2015 01:28 PM, alister wrote:
 Which may be fitting it just waisted 10 min downloading everything
 before discovering I did not have permission (forgot to sudo)
 
 I think if you resume the transaction, downloaded things are locally
 cached: aren't they?

No, it downloaded them all again



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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 05/18/2015 01:28 PM, alister wrote:

Which may be fitting
it just waisted 10 min downloading everything before discovering I did
not have permission (forgot to sudo)


I think if you resume the transaction, downloaded things are locally 
cached: aren't they?

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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 05/18/2015 03:08 PM, alister wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2015 15:08:07 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:


On 05/18/2015 01:28 PM, alister wrote:

Which may be fitting it just waisted 10 min downloading everything
before discovering I did not have permission (forgot to sudo)

I think if you resume the transaction, downloaded things are locally
cached: aren't they?

No, it downloaded them all again




That should be reprted as a usefull missing feature...
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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread Gregory Ewing

Mark Lawrence wrote:
As an aside, from the signature of your message, I thought In war, 
truth is the first casualty. was first said by Winston Churchill,


But... did he say it during wartime?

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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 As an aside, from the signature of your message, I thought In war, truth is
 the first casualty. was first said by Winston Churchill, not U Thant?

I prefer the White King's line. Alice commented that she should
perhaps be grateful for the truth, even though a lie might well have
been more persuasive; the King replies, In war, truth first! There's
always time for lies later.

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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread alister
On Mon, 18 May 2015 11:30:57 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:

 On 18/05/2015 11:18, alister wrote:
 On Mon, 18 May 2015 15:21:05 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

 As part of Red Hat's move to Python 3, yum is officially deprecated
 and replaced by dnf:

 http://dnf.baseurl.org/2015/05/11/yum-is-dead-long-live-dnf/

 Quote:

  Yum would not survive the “Python 3 as default” Fedora initiative
  meanwhile DNF is able to run on Python 2 and Python 3.


 Poor choice of name DNF= Did Not Finish


 Does Not Fail?
 
 As an aside, from the signature of your message, I thought In war,
 truth is the first casualty. was first said by Winston Churchill, not U
 Thant?

Dont ask me, it is generated by fortune running on my Linux box


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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread alister
On Mon, 18 May 2015 15:21:05 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

 As part of Red Hat's move to Python 3, yum is officially deprecated and
 replaced by dnf:
 
 http://dnf.baseurl.org/2015/05/11/yum-is-dead-long-live-dnf/
 
 Quote:
 
 Yum would not survive the “Python 3 as default” Fedora initiative
 meanwhile DNF is able to run on Python 2 and Python 3.


Poor choice of name DNF= Did Not Finish 


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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 18/05/2015 11:18, alister wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2015 15:21:05 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:


As part of Red Hat's move to Python 3, yum is officially deprecated and
replaced by dnf:

http://dnf.baseurl.org/2015/05/11/yum-is-dead-long-live-dnf/

Quote:

 Yum would not survive the “Python 3 as default” Fedora initiative
 meanwhile DNF is able to run on Python 2 and Python 3.



Poor choice of name DNF= Did Not Finish



Does Not Fail?

As an aside, from the signature of your message, I thought In war, 
truth is the first casualty. was first said by Winston Churchill, not U 
Thant?


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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread alister
On Mon, 18 May 2015 10:18:49 +, alister wrote:

 On Mon, 18 May 2015 15:21:05 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
 
 As part of Red Hat's move to Python 3, yum is officially deprecated and
 replaced by dnf:
 
 http://dnf.baseurl.org/2015/05/11/yum-is-dead-long-live-dnf/
 
 Quote:
 
 Yum would not survive the “Python 3 as default” Fedora initiative
 meanwhile DNF is able to run on Python 2 and Python 3.
 
 
 Poor choice of name DNF= Did Not Finish


Which may be fitting
it just waisted 10 min downloading everything before discovering I did 
not have permission (forgot to sudo)


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Re: Python 3: yum is dead, long live dnf!

2015-05-18 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 18 May 2015 08:18 pm, alister wrote:

 On Mon, 18 May 2015 15:21:05 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
 
 As part of Red Hat's move to Python 3, yum is officially deprecated and
 replaced by dnf:
 
 http://dnf.baseurl.org/2015/05/11/yum-is-dead-long-live-dnf/
 
 Quote:
 
 Yum would not survive the “Python 3 as default” Fedora initiative
 meanwhile DNF is able to run on Python 2 and Python 3.
 
 
 Poor choice of name DNF= Did Not Finish

:-)

Computer programs, like art, are never finished, merely abandoned.

Except for TeX, of course, which upon Donald Knuth's death will be released
as version π and all remaining bugs declared to be features.




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