Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

2007-03-28 Thread Dean Mumby

Erik A. Espinoza wrote:

I imagine you are talking about DomainKeys.

The only way to truly disable it is to do the following:
# cd /var/qmail/bin
# ln -sf qmail-queue.orig qmail-queue

This will be done on the next qmail-toaster release.

Modifying the tcp rules does not properly disable it. The qmail-dk
code is just horrid and broken. It will not be put back in until it is
fixed.


Which version exactly is broken ?

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[qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

2007-03-22 Thread James F. Jarrett
A teacher at our school just came to me and said a student claimed to
have sent her an e-mail that she did not receive.  I did a search of the
smtp log and found these entries:

@400045f187171dd611b4 CHKUSER accepted sender: from ::
remote mail1.ccds.charlotte.nc.us:unknown:10.64.6.9 rcpt  : sender
accepted
@400045f187171e46b5a4 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from xxx:: remote
mail1.ccds.charlotte.nc.us:unknown:10.64.6.9 rcpt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] : found existing recipient


(The  and  are the student and teacher's email addresses
respectively).  I have two questions:

1:  How do I turn this information into a *TIME* of attempted delivery.

2:  The teacher says she never got the mail, how do I figure out what
happened to it?

Oddly enough, we were running an older version of the toaster, and we
updated it to the current version that very evening (About 6:00 pm) but
that was *AFTER* this took place.

I only mention this as I had heard that the older version of the toaster
we were running had much poorer logging than the new one, and is the
main reason we updated.

Thanks for any help.

James
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

2007-03-22 Thread David Sánchez Martín

1:  How do I turn this information into a *TIME* of attempted delivery.

Just pipe it thru tai64nlocal, like this:

cat mylogfile | tai64nlocal


2:  The teacher says she never got the mail, how do I figure out what
happened to it?

You must search it in the correspondent /var/log/qmail/send/* file.


Oddly enough, we were running an older version of the toaster, and we
updated it to the current version that very evening (About 6:00 pm) but
that was *AFTER* this took place.

I only mention this as I had heard that the older version of the toaster
we were running had much poorer logging than the new one, and is the
main reason we updated.

Logging in qmail was allways admin-unfriendly. It's great for statistical
tools but
not for seein it directly.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

2007-03-22 Thread Erik A. Espinoza

Please provide qmail-toaster versions:

rpm -qa | grep toaster

If I had to guess, you are running an old version of the qmail-toaster
package with the bad qmail-dk, which rejected mail silently.

We will be disabling qmail-dk by default altogether in the next
release of the qmail-toaster package. It is just too broken.

Erik

On 3/22/07, James F. Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for all the suggestions: Here is what I have done:

Verified (In /var/log/qmail/smtp) that the mail was received by the
toster.

Found *NO* other references to the student's e-mail address ANYWHERE in
ANY of the log files other than that one, and there is nothing in the
teacher's mail queue (tho that is not surprising as all our teachers
download their mail with outlook).

So I guess it just vanished...




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

2007-03-22 Thread James F. Jarrett
Right I know, in my first message I said later that same day we updated
to a newer version that does not delete silently.  *BUT* I had (and
have* domainkeys disabled!

James

On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:11 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote:
 Please provide qmail-toaster versions:
 
 rpm -qa | grep toaster
 
 If I had to guess, you are running an old version of the qmail-toaster
 package with the bad qmail-dk, which rejected mail silently.
 
 We will be disabling qmail-dk by default altogether in the next
 release of the qmail-toaster package. It is just too broken.
 
 Erik
 
 On 3/22/07, James F. Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for all the suggestions: Here is what I have done:
 
  Verified (In /var/log/qmail/smtp) that the mail was received by the
  toster.
 
  Found *NO* other references to the student's e-mail address ANYWHERE in
  ANY of the log files other than that one, and there is nothing in the
  teacher's mail queue (tho that is not surprising as all our teachers
  download their mail with outlook).
 
  So I guess it just vanished...
 
 
  
  
  --
  James F. Jarrett
  Information Systems Associate
  Charlotte Country Day School
 
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

2007-03-22 Thread James F. Jarrett
Sorry, when I replied I didn't give you what you asked for..

vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.2
ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2
autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.2
maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.4
ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2
qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.3
simscan-toaster-1.3.1-1.3.5
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.3
clamav-toaster-0.90.1-1.3.11
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59.1-1.3.5
control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.3
maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.3-1.3.4
send-emails-toaster-0.5-1.3.3
ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.4
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.14
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6
libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.2
qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.14
squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.9a-1.3.5
qmailtoaster-plus-0.2.8-1.3.10
daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.2
libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.2
ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.2
isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.3
qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.2
spamassassin-toaster-3.1.8-1.3.7

On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:11 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote:
 Please provide qmail-toaster versions:
 
 rpm -qa | grep toaster
 
 If I had to guess, you are running an old version of the qmail-toaster
 package with the bad qmail-dk, which rejected mail silently.
 
 We will be disabling qmail-dk by default altogether in the next
 release of the qmail-toaster package. It is just too broken.
 
 Erik
 
 On 3/22/07, James F. Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for all the suggestions: Here is what I have done:
 
  Verified (In /var/log/qmail/smtp) that the mail was received by the
  toster.
 
  Found *NO* other references to the student's e-mail address ANYWHERE in
  ANY of the log files other than that one, and there is nothing in the
  teacher's mail queue (tho that is not surprising as all our teachers
  download their mail with outlook).
 
  So I guess it just vanished...
 
 
  
  
  --
  James F. Jarrett
  Information Systems Associate
  Charlotte Country Day School
 
 
 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

2007-03-22 Thread David Sánchez Martín

About domainkeys patch:

AFAIK i only had _unlogged_rejects_ (qq permanent errors) of accepting mail
and NOT silent deletions.

Sender should receive a nice mail rejection notice from qmail, and email is
not lost, just refused.

On the other hand, I truly think dk must be disabled, in a current toaster
deployment.


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-Mensaje original-
De: James F. Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: jueves, 22 de marzo de 2007 19:18
Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Asunto: Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

Right I know, in my first message I said later that same day we updated
to a newer version that does not delete silently.  *BUT* I had (and
have* domainkeys disabled!

James

On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:11 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote:
 Please provide qmail-toaster versions:
 
 rpm -qa | grep toaster
 
 If I had to guess, you are running an old version of the qmail-toaster
 package with the bad qmail-dk, which rejected mail silently.
 
 We will be disabling qmail-dk by default altogether in the next
 release of the qmail-toaster package. It is just too broken.
 
 Erik
 
 On 3/22/07, James F. Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Thanks for all the suggestions: Here is what I have done:
 
  Verified (In /var/log/qmail/smtp) that the mail was received by the
  toster.
 
  Found *NO* other references to the student's e-mail address ANYWHERE in
  ANY of the log files other than that one, and there is nothing in the
  teacher's mail queue (tho that is not surprising as all our teachers
  download their mail with outlook).
 
  So I guess it just vanished...
 
 
  
  
  --
  James F. Jarrett
  Information Systems Associate
  Charlotte Country Day School
 
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

2007-03-22 Thread Janno Sannik
dumb quiestion, but what should be modified in tcprules to disable it 
(just by removing environment variable?)?


David Sánchez Martín wrote:

About domainkeys patch:

AFAIK i only had _unlogged_rejects_ (qq permanent errors) of accepting mail
and NOT silent deletions.

Sender should receive a nice mail rejection notice from qmail, and email is
not lost, just refused.

On the other hand, I truly think dk must be disabled, in a current toaster
deployment.


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-Mensaje original-
De: James F. Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: jueves, 22 de marzo de 2007 19:18

Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Asunto: Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

Right I know, in my first message I said later that same day we updated
to a newer version that does not delete silently.  *BUT* I had (and
have* domainkeys disabled!

James

On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:11 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote:
  

Please provide qmail-toaster versions:

rpm -qa | grep toaster

If I had to guess, you are running an old version of the qmail-toaster
package with the bad qmail-dk, which rejected mail silently.

We will be disabling qmail-dk by default altogether in the next
release of the qmail-toaster package. It is just too broken.

Erik

On 3/22/07, James F. Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]


wrote:
  

Thanks for all the suggestions: Here is what I have done:

Verified (In /var/log/qmail/smtp) that the mail was received by the
toster.

Found *NO* other references to the student's e-mail address ANYWHERE in
ANY of the log files other than that one, and there is nothing in the
teacher's mail queue (tho that is not surprising as all our teachers
download their mail with outlook).

So I guess it just vanished...


  


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Information Systems Associate
Charlotte Country Day School



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.

2007-03-22 Thread Jim Shupert, Jr.

This may be a ..very newbie question...
but matters such as
 ...in the next release of the qmail-toaster package ...
... this is where it is good to do updating via qmaip-plus.

meaning - when one updates ( via qmailToaster-plus )
You get the 'Next' release - the current release- yes?

or to say it another way - would you be suggesting that
James F. Jarrett update again when the newest vers comes out?

thanks

j

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Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.



Please provide qmail-toaster versions:

rpm -qa | grep toaster

If I had to guess, you are running an old version of the qmail-toaster
package with the bad qmail-dk, which rejected mail silently.

We will be disabling qmail-dk by default altogether in the next
release of the qmail-toaster package. It is just too broken.

Erik

On 3/22/07, James F. Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Thanks for all the suggestions: Here is what I have done:

Verified (In /var/log/qmail/smtp) that the mail was received by the
toster.

Found *NO* other references to the student's e-mail address ANYWHERE in
ANY of the log files other than that one, and there is nothing in the
teacher's mail queue (tho that is not surprising as all our teachers
download their mail with outlook).

So I guess it just vanished...




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Information Systems Associate
Charlotte Country Day School



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