Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dating trees using date.phylo - ape problem?

2011-07-29 Thread Roland Sookias
Hi

Having another problem with the same function now. What you suggested
worked for one tree, but for the attached tree and file it didn't...

I get:

  ttree-date.phylo(tree, ages, rlen=10, method=equal)
Error: subscript out of bounds
 traceback()
1: date.phylo(tree, ages, rlen = 10, method = equal)



On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Klaus Schliep klaus.schl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Roland!
 ages should be a matrix, with row names and the ages in the first column.

 On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great! It worked. What format should the file be in then? I thought I'd
 followed the format specified.. Thanks very much indeed :)

 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Klaus Schliep
 klaus.schl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Roland,

 as I suspected, your ages list was not in the right format (has
 nothing to do with ape).
 Try this:

 tmp = read.csv(agescut.csv, header=FALSE)
 ages = matrix(tmp[, 2], ncol=1)
 rownames(ages) = tmp[,1]
 tree = read.tree(archotreeresolved6.tre)
 ttree-date.phylo(tree, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)


 Regards,
 Klaus



 On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
 
  Thanks guys.
 
  Attached are the two files (will these work via the list?)
 
  When I type trackback() all I get is 1: date.phylo(archotreeresolved,
 ages,
  rlen = 1, method = equal).
 
  Roland
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Klaus Schliep
  klaus.schl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Dear Roland,
 
  it would be good if you add the datasets, that one can reproduce your
  results (archotreeresolved, ages). I would guess from the error
  message that your ages list may has the wrong format.
  Also traceback() sometimes tells you where the error happens exactly.
 
  Kind regards
  Klaus
 
  On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi all
  
   I'm trying to assign lengths to branches in a tree using the Ruta et
 al.
   2008 method via Graeme Lloyd's date.phylo() function (see
   http://www.graemetlloyd.com/methdpf.html). I keep coming up against
 an
  error
   for some reason. Graeme himself does exactly the same thing seemingly
 on
  his
   Mac (I'm using Windows 7, R 2.13.1, Ape 2.7-2 - Graeme has Ape 2.7-1)
   and
  it
   works. I've tried various permutations of the tree, with and without
   a
   rooted symbol [r], and there are no special characters etc., the
 names
  in
   tree and ages list are the same. I still keep getting:
  
    ttree-date.phylo(archotreeresolved, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)
   Error in ages[tree$tip.label[find.descendants(nodes[i], tree)], 1] :
     incorrect number of dimensions
  
   Any help, or advice what to try/look into much appreciated. Graeme
   thinks
   it's something with ape not date.phylo...
  
   Very best
  
   Roland
  
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Endothiodon_paucidens,260
Endothiodon_uniseries,266
Endothiodon_whaitsi,260
Eozostrodon_parvus,201.6
Ericiolacerta_parva,251
Erythrotherium_parringtoni,201.6
Euchambersia_mirabilis,260
Exaeretodon_argentinus,235
Exaeretodon_riograndensis,235
Exaeretodon_statisticae,235
Galesaurus_planiceps,251
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Geikia_locusticeps,254
Gorgonops_capensis,260
Gorgonops_dixeyi,260
Gorgonops_torvus,260
Gorgonops?_kaiseri,260
Ictidosuchoides_longiceps,254
Ictidosuchops_intermedius,260
Ictidosuchus_primaevus,260
Inostrancevia_alexandri,260
Interpresosaurus_blomi,254
Kannemeyeria_argentinensis,245
Kannemeyeria_erithrea,245

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dating trees using date.phylo - ape problem?

2011-07-21 Thread Emmanuel Paradis
Hi Roland,

Just after the error, type:

traceback()

This will show you, hopefully, where the error happened.

Best,

Emmanuel
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:44:30 
To: r-sig-phylo@r-project.orgr-sig-phylo@r-project.org
Subject: [R-sig-phylo] Dating trees using date.phylo - ape problem?

Hi all

I'm trying to assign lengths to branches in a tree using the Ruta et al.
2008 method via Graeme Lloyd's date.phylo() function (see
http://www.graemetlloyd.com/methdpf.html). I keep coming up against an error
for some reason. Graeme himself does exactly the same thing seemingly on his
Mac (I'm using Windows 7, R 2.13.1, Ape 2.7-2 - Graeme has Ape 2.7-1) and it
works. I've tried various permutations of the tree, with and without a
rooted symbol [r], and there are no special characters etc., the names in
tree and ages list are the same. I still keep getting:

 ttree-date.phylo(archotreeresolved, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)
Error in ages[tree$tip.label[find.descendants(nodes[i], tree)], 1] :
  incorrect number of dimensions

Any help, or advice what to try/look into much appreciated. Graeme thinks
it's something with ape not date.phylo...

Very best

Roland

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Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dating trees using date.phylo - ape problem?

2011-07-21 Thread Klaus Schliep
Dear Roland,

it would be good if you add the datasets, that one can reproduce your
results (archotreeresolved, ages). I would guess from the error
message that your ages list may has the wrong format.
Also traceback() sometimes tells you where the error happens exactly.

Kind regards
Klaus

On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all

 I'm trying to assign lengths to branches in a tree using the Ruta et al.
 2008 method via Graeme Lloyd's date.phylo() function (see
 http://www.graemetlloyd.com/methdpf.html). I keep coming up against an error
 for some reason. Graeme himself does exactly the same thing seemingly on his
 Mac (I'm using Windows 7, R 2.13.1, Ape 2.7-2 - Graeme has Ape 2.7-1) and it
 works. I've tried various permutations of the tree, with and without a
 rooted symbol [r], and there are no special characters etc., the names in
 tree and ages list are the same. I still keep getting:

  ttree-date.phylo(archotreeresolved, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)
 Error in ages[tree$tip.label[find.descendants(nodes[i], tree)], 1] :
   incorrect number of dimensions

 Any help, or advice what to try/look into much appreciated. Graeme thinks
 it's something with ape not date.phylo...

 Very best

 Roland

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Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dating trees using date.phylo - ape problem?

2011-07-21 Thread Roland Sookias
Hi

Thanks guys.

Attached are the two files (will these work via the list?)

When I type trackback() all I get is 1: date.phylo(archotreeresolved, ages,
rlen = 1, method = equal).

Roland



On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Klaus Schliep klaus.schl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Roland,

 it would be good if you add the datasets, that one can reproduce your
 results (archotreeresolved, ages). I would guess from the error
 message that your ages list may has the wrong format.
 Also traceback() sometimes tells you where the error happens exactly.

 Kind regards
 Klaus

 On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all
 
  I'm trying to assign lengths to branches in a tree using the Ruta et al.
  2008 method via Graeme Lloyd's date.phylo() function (see
  http://www.graemetlloyd.com/methdpf.html). I keep coming up against an
 error
  for some reason. Graeme himself does exactly the same thing seemingly on
 his
  Mac (I'm using Windows 7, R 2.13.1, Ape 2.7-2 - Graeme has Ape 2.7-1) and
 it
  works. I've tried various permutations of the tree, with and without a
  rooted symbol [r], and there are no special characters etc., the names
 in
  tree and ages list are the same. I still keep getting:
 
   ttree-date.phylo(archotreeresolved, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)
  Error in ages[tree$tip.label[find.descendants(nodes[i], tree)], 1] :
incorrect number of dimensions
 
  Any help, or advice what to try/look into much appreciated. Graeme thinks
  it's something with ape not date.phylo...
 
  Very best
 
  Roland
 
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archotreeresolved6.tre
Description: Binary data
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Duriavenator_hesperis,170
Effigia_okeeffeae,208.8
Efraasia_minor,210
Eocursor_parvus,208.8
Eoraptor_lunensis,231.5
Epidendrosaurus_ningchengensis,159.5
Epidexipteryx_hui,159.5
Erythrosuchus_africanus,243
Eucoelophysis_baldwini,208.8
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Fasolasuchus_tenax,208.8
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Herrerasaurus_ischigualastensis,231.5
Hesperosuchus_agilis,216
Heterodontosaurus_tucki,195.8
Hexinlusaurus_multidens,170
Howesia_browni,243
Huayangosaurus_taibaii,170
Hyperodapedon_gordoni,225.5
Hypuronector_limnaios,222
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Jeholopterus_ningchengensis,159.5
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Lagerpeton_chanarensis,234.5
Langobardisaurus_pandolfi,210
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Leptosuchus_adamanensis,216
Leptosuchus_crosbiensis,222
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Protosuchus_richardsoni,199.3
Pseudopalatus_buceros,208.8

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dating trees using date.phylo - ape problem?

2011-07-21 Thread Klaus Schliep
Hi Roland,

as I suspected, your ages list was not in the right format (has
nothing to do with ape).
Try this:

tmp = read.csv(agescut.csv, header=FALSE)
ages = matrix(tmp[, 2], ncol=1)
rownames(ages) = tmp[,1]
tree = read.tree(archotreeresolved6.tre)
ttree-date.phylo(tree, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)


Regards,
Klaus



On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Thanks guys.

 Attached are the two files (will these work via the list?)

 When I type trackback() all I get is 1: date.phylo(archotreeresolved, ages,
 rlen = 1, method = equal).

 Roland



 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Klaus Schliep
 klaus.schl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Roland,

 it would be good if you add the datasets, that one can reproduce your
 results (archotreeresolved, ages). I would guess from the error
 message that your ages list may has the wrong format.
 Also traceback() sometimes tells you where the error happens exactly.

 Kind regards
 Klaus

 On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all
 
  I'm trying to assign lengths to branches in a tree using the Ruta et al.
  2008 method via Graeme Lloyd's date.phylo() function (see
  http://www.graemetlloyd.com/methdpf.html). I keep coming up against an
 error
  for some reason. Graeme himself does exactly the same thing seemingly on
 his
  Mac (I'm using Windows 7, R 2.13.1, Ape 2.7-2 - Graeme has Ape 2.7-1)
  and
 it
  works. I've tried various permutations of the tree, with and without a
  rooted symbol [r], and there are no special characters etc., the names
 in
  tree and ages list are the same. I still keep getting:
 
   ttree-date.phylo(archotreeresolved, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)
  Error in ages[tree$tip.label[find.descendants(nodes[i], tree)], 1] :
incorrect number of dimensions
 
  Any help, or advice what to try/look into much appreciated. Graeme
  thinks
  it's something with ape not date.phylo...
 
  Very best
 
  Roland
 
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Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dating trees using date.phylo - ape problem?

2011-07-21 Thread Roland Sookias
Great! It worked. What format should the file be in then? I thought I'd
followed the format specified.. Thanks very much indeed :)

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Klaus Schliep klaus.schl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Roland,

 as I suspected, your ages list was not in the right format (has
 nothing to do with ape).
 Try this:

 tmp = read.csv(agescut.csv, header=FALSE)
 ages = matrix(tmp[, 2], ncol=1)
 rownames(ages) = tmp[,1]
 tree = read.tree(archotreeresolved6.tre)
 ttree-date.phylo(tree, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)


 Regards,
 Klaus



 On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
 
  Thanks guys.
 
  Attached are the two files (will these work via the list?)
 
  When I type trackback() all I get is 1: date.phylo(archotreeresolved,
 ages,
  rlen = 1, method = equal).
 
  Roland
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Klaus Schliep
  klaus.schl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Dear Roland,
 
  it would be good if you add the datasets, that one can reproduce your
  results (archotreeresolved, ages). I would guess from the error
  message that your ages list may has the wrong format.
  Also traceback() sometimes tells you where the error happens exactly.
 
  Kind regards
  Klaus
 
  On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi all
  
   I'm trying to assign lengths to branches in a tree using the Ruta et
 al.
   2008 method via Graeme Lloyd's date.phylo() function (see
   http://www.graemetlloyd.com/methdpf.html). I keep coming up against
 an
  error
   for some reason. Graeme himself does exactly the same thing seemingly
 on
  his
   Mac (I'm using Windows 7, R 2.13.1, Ape 2.7-2 - Graeme has Ape 2.7-1)
   and
  it
   works. I've tried various permutations of the tree, with and without a
   rooted symbol [r], and there are no special characters etc., the
 names
  in
   tree and ages list are the same. I still keep getting:
  
ttree-date.phylo(archotreeresolved, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)
   Error in ages[tree$tip.label[find.descendants(nodes[i], tree)], 1] :
 incorrect number of dimensions
  
   Any help, or advice what to try/look into much appreciated. Graeme
   thinks
   it's something with ape not date.phylo...
  
   Very best
  
   Roland
  
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Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dating trees using date.phylo - ape problem?

2011-07-21 Thread Klaus Schliep
Hi Roland!
ages should be a matrix, with row names and the ages in the first column.

On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great! It worked. What format should the file be in then? I thought I'd
 followed the format specified.. Thanks very much indeed :)

 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Klaus Schliep
 klaus.schl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Roland,

 as I suspected, your ages list was not in the right format (has
 nothing to do with ape).
 Try this:

 tmp = read.csv(agescut.csv, header=FALSE)
 ages = matrix(tmp[, 2], ncol=1)
 rownames(ages) = tmp[,1]
 tree = read.tree(archotreeresolved6.tre)
 ttree-date.phylo(tree, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)


 Regards,
 Klaus



 On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
 
  Thanks guys.
 
  Attached are the two files (will these work via the list?)
 
  When I type trackback() all I get is 1: date.phylo(archotreeresolved,
 ages,
  rlen = 1, method = equal).
 
  Roland
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Klaus Schliep
  klaus.schl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Dear Roland,
 
  it would be good if you add the datasets, that one can reproduce your
  results (archotreeresolved, ages). I would guess from the error
  message that your ages list may has the wrong format.
  Also traceback() sometimes tells you where the error happens exactly.
 
  Kind regards
  Klaus
 
  On 7/21/11, Roland Sookias r.sook...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi all
  
   I'm trying to assign lengths to branches in a tree using the Ruta et
 al.
   2008 method via Graeme Lloyd's date.phylo() function (see
   http://www.graemetlloyd.com/methdpf.html). I keep coming up against
 an
  error
   for some reason. Graeme himself does exactly the same thing seemingly
 on
  his
   Mac (I'm using Windows 7, R 2.13.1, Ape 2.7-2 - Graeme has Ape 2.7-1)
   and
  it
   works. I've tried various permutations of the tree, with and without
   a
   rooted symbol [r], and there are no special characters etc., the
 names
  in
   tree and ages list are the same. I still keep getting:
  
ttree-date.phylo(archotreeresolved, ages, rlen=1, method=equal)
   Error in ages[tree$tip.label[find.descendants(nodes[i], tree)], 1] :
 incorrect number of dimensions
  
   Any help, or advice what to try/look into much appreciated. Graeme
   thinks
   it's something with ape not date.phylo...
  
   Very best
  
   Roland
  
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Klaus Schliep
Université Paris 6 (Pierre et Marie Curie)
9, Quai Saint-Bernard, 75005 Paris

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