Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
Any thought, comments, or observations of using Slack? On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:25 PM J. King wrote: > On June 15, 2018 12:17:31 PM EDT, dmp > wrote: > >> Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting > >> subscriptions. I have implemented measures to block the subscription > >> robots and to better log subscription activity to better detect > >future > >> mischief. > > > >> I consider this to be a stop-gap measure that will buy me some time > >> to implement and test a better log-term solution. . > > > >> D. Richard Hipp > >> d...@sqlite.org > > > >As a comment, again with past post with regard to Mailing List. > > > >This mailing list is a very informative, simple, and a conveniant > >method to disperse information in a bulk format. A change to a web > >interface, (forum, other), that requires a login each day is most > >likely going to push me away. > > > >Hope a fix can be accomplished. > > > >danap. > > > >___ > >sqlite-users mailing list > >sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > >http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > > Opinions on this have made the rounds here before, but I will reiterate > that I feel the same. I would be especially sad to see this discussion list > move to Discourse (as was suggested and apparently explored earlier this > week), as I find that software very unresponsive and difficult to use on > Firefox for Android, and I do much of my reading of this list on the go > (like right now). > > > -- > J. King > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
On June 15, 2018 12:17:31 PM EDT, dmp wrote: >> Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting >> subscriptions. I have implemented measures to block the subscription >> robots and to better log subscription activity to better detect >future >> mischief. > >> I consider this to be a stop-gap measure that will buy me some time >> to implement and test a better log-term solution. . > >> D. Richard Hipp >> d...@sqlite.org > >As a comment, again with past post with regard to Mailing List. > >This mailing list is a very informative, simple, and a conveniant >method to disperse information in a bulk format. A change to a web >interface, (forum, other), that requires a login each day is most >likely going to push me away. > >Hope a fix can be accomplished. > >danap. > >___ >sqlite-users mailing list >sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org >http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users Opinions on this have made the rounds here before, but I will reiterate that I feel the same. I would be especially sad to see this discussion list move to Discourse (as was suggested and apparently explored earlier this week), as I find that software very unresponsive and difficult to use on Firefox for Android, and I do much of my reading of this list on the go (like right now). -- J. King ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
> Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting > subscriptions. I have implemented measures to block the subscription > robots and to better log subscription activity to better detect future > mischief. > I consider this to be a stop-gap measure that will buy me some time > to implement and test a better log-term solution. . > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org As a comment, again with past post with regard to Mailing List. This mailing list is a very informative, simple, and a conveniant method to disperse information in a bulk format. A change to a web interface, (forum, other), that requires a login each day is most likely going to push me away. Hope a fix can be accomplished. danap. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
> Do we need any further evidence that the heart of man is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked? Per Keith Metcalf: "The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume." On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:38 PM R Smith wrote: > On 2018/06/14 5:58 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > > Do we need any further evidence that the heart of man is > > deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked? > > That's only the heart of woman... > > > The heart of man is much much worse. > > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
On 2018/06/14 5:58 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: Do we need any further evidence that the heart of man is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked? That's only the heart of woman... The heart of man is much much worse. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > ... > > So there you have it: If you want to harass someone by sending them > thousands of subscription confirmations, there is now a website to > assist you. Do we need any further evidence that the heart of man is > deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked? > > There is no doubt that SOME folks have deceitful hearts and are wicked. Please don't paint all members of the species with just one brush. -- Dictionary.com's word of the year: *complicit* ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
-Original Message- From: sqlite-users [mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Richard Hipp Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 11:59 AM To: SQLite mailing list; fossil-users Subject: Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down... So there you have it: If you want to harass someone by sending them thousands of subscription confirmations, there is now a website to assist you. Do we need any further evidence that the heart of man is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
On 6/14/18, Gary R. Schmidt wrote: > > Would you be willing to publish your fix to the mailman list so that > others could make use of it? > I will provide *some* information: I installed a CGI logging system on selected parts of the subscription interface, and I am running "tail -f" on the log file. What I am seeing suggests that the problem is not caused by a single attacker, as there are a wide variety of attacks against the subscription systems. There are many different IP addresses from all over the world, so IP address blocking is of no help. But the differences are deeper than just multiple IP addresses (multiple IP addresses might simply mean that the attacker is using a botnet, for example.) The signatures of the attacks are very different. It is all done by robots, clearly, but it appears that very different code is used for each attack. To describe just one example, some of the attacks are coming in as GET requests, whereas others are coming in as POST. A minor fraction of the attacks seem to be coming from this website: http://185.203.240.97/spam/ So there you have it: If you want to harass someone by sending them thousands of subscription confirmations, there is now a website to assist you. Do we need any further evidence that the heart of man is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
> Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting subscriptions. I > have implemented measures to block the subscription robots and to better > log subscription activity to better detect future mischief. Thank you. I learn so much from this list. -- Bill Drago Software Engineer L3 Narda-MITEQ 435 Moreland Road Hauppauge, NY 11788 631-272-5947 / william.dr...@l3t.com --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain material that is proprietary, confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected or restricted under applicable government laws. Any review, disclosure, distributing or other use without expressed permission of the sender is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies without reading, printing, or saving.. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
On 6/14/18, Gary R. Schmidt wrote: > > Would you be willing to publish your fix to the mailman list so that > others could make use of it? I don't want help the spammers develop work-arounds. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
On 14/06/2018 23:05, Richard Hipp wrote: On 6/13/18, Richard Hipp wrote: Unfortunately, I'm going to need to shut down this mailing list due to robot harassment. I am working to come up with a fix or an alternative now Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting subscriptions. I have implemented measures to block the subscription robots and to better log subscription activity to better detect future mischief. I consider this to be a stop-gap measure that will buy me some time to implement and test a better log-term solution. The current setup will change. But the temporary measure I implemented this morning do at least get us back to a functional mailing list while work on the improved solution proceeds. That's nice. Would you be willing to publish your fix to the mailman list so that others could make use of it? Cheers, GaryB-) ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
[sqlite] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...
On 6/13/18, Richard Hipp wrote: > Unfortunately, I'm going to need to shut down this mailing list due to > robot harassment. I am working to come up with a fix or an > alternative now Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting subscriptions. I have implemented measures to block the subscription robots and to better log subscription activity to better detect future mischief. I consider this to be a stop-gap measure that will buy me some time to implement and test a better log-term solution. The current setup will change. But the temporary measure I implemented this morning do at least get us back to a functional mailing list while work on the improved solution proceeds. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
