Re: Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

[Adrian Ball]

Hi Eion,
Thanks, the hangouts plugin worked. I had a bit 
of trouble with the auth, because the dialog from 
Pidgin took me to a page Google said I didn't 
have access to. But it did eventually work - I 
think I needed to be signed into my Google account in the browser first.

Thanks again,
Cheers,
Adrian.

At 08:57 AM 22/08/2016, Eion Robb wrote:

Hi Adrian,

If you want to use Hangouts over XMPP, you'll 
need to enable "less-secure apps" settings in 
your Google security settings, otherwise you can 
switch to the Hangouts plugin at 
https://bitbucket.org/EionRobb/purple-hangouts 
which uses OAuth to login.


Cheers,
Eion

On 22 August 2016 at 08:58, Adrian Ball 
<adr...@perkinstechnologies.com.au> 
wrote:


Hi Shlomi,
I did try using XMPP to connect to my Google 
account, but Pidgin tells me 'Authorization 
failed' and I get an email from Google telling 
me 'Someone just tried to sign in to your Google 
Account 
adrian...@gmail.com 
from an app that doesn't meet modern security 
standards.' Is there a trick to getting it to 
work? Or any advanced settings needed? I tried 
selecting both the 'XMPP' and 'Google Talk' 
options in the Pidgin account setup, but Google 
Talk appeared to revert to XMPP anyway, and 
neither would connect. I do have 'Require 
Encryption' set on the advanced tab, and did try 
changing that to SSL but then I got 'SSL connection failed'. Any ideas?
Also, you recommend using XMPP as an 
alternative. But I assume that needs a server 
somewhere? Which one would you recommend? Maybe jabber.org?

Regards,
Adrian.



At 10:01 PM 20/08/2016, Shlomi Fish wrote:
Hi Adrian,

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:16:59 +1000
Adrian Ball 
<adr...@perkinstechnologies.com.au> 
wrote:


> Hi Eion,
> Excellent! Thanks for that. It looks like the new
> protocol is a bit short on functionality so far
> though. No buddy list or buddy status will be
> painful, the way I use Messenger. :-( Might have
> to look for a new protocol to use. Even Google Talk is dead now too!

Well, Google Talk/Google Chat was recently rebranded as "Google Hangouts" and
I'm using Pidgin to speak using it without any major problems using Google's
XMPP interface.

Some other alternatives are:

1. XMPP - open source and standard and distributed.

2. Facebook - see 
https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook 
. Works pretty well

in Pidgin.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish


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Re: Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

[Eion Robb]

Hi Adrian,

If you want to use Hangouts over XMPP, you'll need to enable "less-secure
apps" settings in your Google security settings, otherwise you can switch
to the Hangouts plugin at https://bitbucket.org/EionRobb/purple-hangouts
which uses OAuth to login.

Cheers,
Eion

On 22 August 2016 at 08:58, Adrian Ball 
wrote:

>
> Hi Shlomi,
> I did try using XMPP to connect to my Google account, but Pidgin tells me
> 'Authorization failed' and I get an email from Google telling me 'Someone
> just tried to sign in to your Google Account adrian...@gmail.com from an
> app that doesn't meet modern security standards.' Is there a trick to
> getting it to work? Or any advanced settings needed? I tried selecting both
> the 'XMPP' and 'Google Talk' options in the Pidgin account setup, but
> Google Talk appeared to revert to XMPP anyway, and neither would connect. I
> do have 'Require Encryption' set on the advanced tab, and did try changing
> that to SSL but then I got 'SSL connection failed'. Any ideas?
> Also, you recommend using XMPP as an alternative. But I assume that needs
> a server somewhere? Which one would you recommend? Maybe jabber.org?
> Regards,
> Adrian.
>
>
>
> At 10:01 PM 20/08/2016, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
>> Hi Adrian,
>>
>> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:16:59 +1000
>> Adrian Ball  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Eion,
>> > Excellent! Thanks for that. It looks like the new
>> > protocol is a bit short on functionality so far
>> > though. No buddy list or buddy status will be
>> > painful, the way I use Messenger. :-( Might have
>> > to look for a new protocol to use. Even Google Talk is dead now too!
>>
>> Well, Google Talk/Google Chat was recently rebranded as "Google Hangouts"
>> and
>> I'm using Pidgin to speak using it without any major problems using
>> Google's
>> XMPP interface.
>>
>> Some other alternatives are:
>>
>> 1. XMPP - open source and standard and distributed.
>>
>> 2. Facebook - see https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook . Works
>> pretty well
>> in Pidgin.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Shlomi Fish
>>
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Re: Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

[Adrian Ball]

Hi Shlomi,
I did try using XMPP to connect to my Google account, but Pidgin 
tells me 'Authorization failed' and I get an email from Google 
telling me 'Someone just tried to sign in to your Google Account 
adrian...@gmail.com from an app that doesn't meet modern security 
standards.' Is there a trick to getting it to work? Or any advanced 
settings needed? I tried selecting both the 'XMPP' and 'Google Talk' 
options in the Pidgin account setup, but Google Talk appeared to 
revert to XMPP anyway, and neither would connect. I do have 'Require 
Encryption' set on the advanced tab, and did try changing that to SSL 
but then I got 'SSL connection failed'. Any ideas?
Also, you recommend using XMPP as an alternative. But I assume that 
needs a server somewhere? Which one would you recommend? Maybe jabber.org?

Regards,
Adrian.


At 10:01 PM 20/08/2016, Shlomi Fish wrote:

Hi Adrian,

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:16:59 +1000
Adrian Ball  wrote:

> Hi Eion,
> Excellent! Thanks for that. It looks like the new
> protocol is a bit short on functionality so far
> though. No buddy list or buddy status will be
> painful, the way I use Messenger. :-( Might have
> to look for a new protocol to use. Even Google Talk is dead now too!

Well, Google Talk/Google Chat was recently rebranded as "Google Hangouts" and
I'm using Pidgin to speak using it without any major problems using Google's
XMPP interface.

Some other alternatives are:

1. XMPP - open source and standard and distributed.

2. Facebook - see https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook . Works 
pretty well

in Pidgin.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish


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Re: Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

[Eion Robb]

You can also use the Hangouts plugin ;)

On 21 August 2016 at 00:01, Shlomi Fish  wrote:

>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:16:59 +1000
> Adrian Ball  wrote:
>
> > Hi Eion,
> > Excellent! Thanks for that. It looks like the new
> > protocol is a bit short on functionality so far
> > though. No buddy list or buddy status will be
> > painful, the way I use Messenger. :-( Might have
> > to look for a new protocol to use. Even Google Talk is dead now too!
>
> Well, Google Talk/Google Chat was recently rebranded as "Google Hangouts"
> and
> I'm using Pidgin to speak using it without any major problems using
> Google's
> XMPP interface.
>
> Some other alternatives are:
>
> 1. XMPP - open source and standard and distributed.
>
> 2. Facebook - see https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook . Works
> pretty well
> in Pidgin.
>
> Regards,
>
> Shlomi Fish
>
>
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Re: Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Adrian,

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:16:59 +1000
Adrian Ball  wrote:

> Hi Eion,
> Excellent! Thanks for that. It looks like the new 
> protocol is a bit short on functionality so far 
> though. No buddy list or buddy status will be 
> painful, the way I use Messenger. :-( Might have 
> to look for a new protocol to use. Even Google Talk is dead now too!

Well, Google Talk/Google Chat was recently rebranded as "Google Hangouts" and
I'm using Pidgin to speak using it without any major problems using Google's
XMPP interface.

Some other alternatives are:

1. XMPP - open source and standard and distributed.

2. Facebook - see https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook . Works pretty well
in Pidgin.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

[Adrian Ball]

Hi Eion,
Excellent! Thanks for that. It looks like the new 
protocol is a bit short on functionality so far 
though. No buddy list or buddy status will be 
painful, the way I use Messenger. :-( Might have 
to look for a new protocol to use. Even Google Talk is dead now too!

Cheers,
Adrian.


At 08:49 AM 20/08/2016, Eion Robb wrote:

Hi Adrian,

I've been working on a new plugin for Yahoo at 
https://github.com/EionRobb/funyahoo-plusplus#readme


Cheers,
Eion

On 19 August 2016 at 22:17, Adrian Ball 
<adr...@perkinstechnologies.com.au> 
wrote:

Hi,

Yahoo has announced it is shutting down the 
current Messenger system in favour of a 'new and improved' system.


https://help.yahoo.com/kb/yahoo-messenger-for-web/SLN26860.html

The shutdown is supposedly going to be complete 
at the end of August 2016 (less than a couple of weeks away!).


Will Pidgin continue to support Yahoo? I have no 
idea if the protocol itself will change, but I 
can tell you that messages sent from their new client don't appear in Pidgin.


Regards,
Adrian Ball.



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Re: Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

[Eion Robb]

Hi Adrian,

I've been working on a new plugin for Yahoo at
https://github.com/EionRobb/funyahoo-plusplus#readme

Cheers,
Eion

On 19 August 2016 at 22:17, Adrian Ball 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yahoo has announced it is shutting down the current Messenger system in
> favour of a 'new and improved' system.
>
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/yahoo-messenger-for-web/SLN26860.html
>
> The shutdown is supposedly going to be complete at the end of August 2016
> (less than a couple of weeks away!).
>
> Will Pidgin continue to support Yahoo? I have no idea if the protocol
> itself will change, but I can tell you that messages sent from their new
> client don't appear in Pidgin.
>
> Regards,
> Adrian Ball.
>
>
>
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Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

[Adrian Ball]

Hi,

Yahoo has announced it is shutting down the current Messenger system 
in favour of a 'new and improved' system.


https://help.yahoo.com/kb/yahoo-messenger-for-web/SLN26860.html

The shutdown is supposedly going to be complete at the end of August 
2016 (less than a couple of weeks away!).


Will Pidgin continue to support Yahoo? I have no idea if the protocol 
itself will change, but I can tell you that messages sent from their 
new client don't appear in Pidgin.


Regards,
Adrian Ball.



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