Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission

[jc...@mail.com]

Ed Parkes has a more pessimistic take on the money:
https://medium.com/@edtparkes/well-need-more-than-20m-a-year-to-get-free-maps-specifically-politicians-willing-to-share-e27e86c356ba

On a related topic, remember there was £5m in March 2016 Budget to explore 
options for open addresses and we're still waiting to find out the results:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/money_for_the_address_register_2

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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission

[Simon Poole]

Am 23.11.2017 um 20:13 schrieb SK53:
> ...
>
> Owen Boswarva's asks if this would
> mean the
> end of OSM mapping in UK. A provocative thought.
>
> ...
Well Owen is not exactly known as a big friend of OSM to start with.

But in any case OSM has survived easily in lots of different scenarios
with plenty of government open data (or what is more likely in this
scenario some kind of open access), so I would remain rather un-fazed by
the announcement of the intent to do something more or less unspecified
to opening up some use to SMEs.

Simon

PS: I believe one of the open questions is if it is actually £80m more
spending on OS than the what I believe current £40m, or if that is the
total.





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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission

[SK53]

The twitterverse has been talking of nothing else.

Personally, I will be very cautiously optimistic.

The best case scenario is one suggested by Bob Barr:

   - OSGB changes it's business model from pay-to-use to transaction based
   (a la Land Registry).
   - The £80 million (2 years at £40 million) is used to cushion revenue &
   staff implications
   - Master Map is then released under OGL going on

Perhaps more likely is a special free service agreement for restricted
classes of businesses (SMEs) along the lines of PSMA (I blagged this point
from someone else).

Even if MM is all under OGL I suspect OSGB would not acquiesce to the
current form of attribution on OSM.

Owen Boswarva's asks if this would
mean the end
of OSM mapping in UK. A provocative thought.

Jerry

On 23 November 2017 at 15:56, Gervase Markham  wrote:

> This sounds... vaguely positive?
> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-to-unlock-
> hidden-value-of-government-data
>
> Gerv
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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission

[Dave F]

I think it's 'a wait & see' until the final decision is made, but paying 
£80m over two years to buy something we've already paid for doesn't seem 
good value for money.


DaveF


On 23/11/2017 15:56, Gervase Markham wrote:

This sounds... vaguely positive?
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-to-unlock-hidden-value-of-government-data

Gerv


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[Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission

[Gervase Markham]

This sounds... vaguely positive?
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-to-unlock-hidden-value-of-government-data

Gerv


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Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

[Ilya Zverev]

Hi,

I recall we had some issues with the Shell import. I have nearly finished my 
auditing tool, which helps record every issue with an import and apply it to 
the actual importing process. After testing it on a few local imports, I invite 
you to check the tool out and validate some fuel stations:

http://audit.osmz.ru/project/shell

The tutorial is not yet ready, but the interface should be quite simple. You 
can move the marker on nearly half of the stations to a better position, if you 
want. For tags, both old and new values are displayed, and you can click on 
each to select it for importing. If there is something to be corrected after, 
type a message into the "fixme" field to find it later.

After validating, press the big green "Good" (or "Record changes") button to 
send the result to the server. Two "Bad" buttons are for marking duplicates or 
absent stations. Please note that the imagery is not quite recent: I've seen a 
couple stations that were built after the imagery was taken. If you're 
undecided on a point, click "Skip".

Each point should be validated by at least two users, and each change requires 
a confirmation by another user. If you think you've made a mistake, you can 
return to the point from the "Browse points" page — click "edit this" after 
selecting a point there.

If you have a region you're most familiar with, draw a bounding box for it in 
your profile (you can draw several):

http://audit.osmz.ru/profile

If you encounter an issue or have suggestions on improving the process, please 
tell me.

Thanks,
Ilya
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