Re: Thank you, all

2021-03-23 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:53 PM David  wrote:
>
> Before the official Beta was published, was there an in-house test-Beta and 
> also a rc-Beta ?
>
> Or were the published ISO’s today, the same as one of the above ?
>
The ISOs available on the website today are the same as Beta release
candidate 3 (or 1.3, depending on where you look. That's not relevant
here) built and tested last week.

Release Engineering generates composes nightly, which get testing over
the development cycle. As we approach a release milestone, QA requests
a release candidate. These are what get the full set of validation
testing. If blockers need to be fixed, we generate and re-test a new
release candidate. If there are no blockers and the candidate is
declared "go" for release, those RC artifacts are what get published.

Does that help?

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Re: Fedora Linux 34 XPS 2-in-1 Tablet Mode

2021-03-23 Thread Leander Hutton via test
On 3/20/21 3:46 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> It is a regressing upstream bug from Mutter.
> 
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1686#note_1052162

Ah, OK thanks for the info! I've noticed that if I switch to an Xorg session it 
works. But Xorg doesn't support a lot of the other tablet adjacent features 
like multitouch. 

I will keep updating and continue testing ad FL34 matures. 

Thanks again! 

Leander

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Thank you, all

2021-03-23 Thread David
I am just re-phrasing my previous question here.


Before the official Beta was published, was there an in-house test-Beta and
also a rc-Beta ?

Or were the published ISO’s today, the same as one of the above ?

I am just curious how it all plays out.

I think I am still a newbie when it comes to all things Fedora related.

David Locklear
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Re: newbie question - Fedora 34

2021-03-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:04:36AM -0500, David wrote:
> or are the current Beta versions just "test-Betas" ??  or "rc-Betas"  for
> in-house use only ?

It is released. You should see an official email on the announcements list:

 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/

and a post on Fedora Magazine:

 https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-the-release-of-fedora-34-beta/

 
> Seems confusing.   Why not do an public Alpha release, or at least a quite
> Alpha release ?

I'm not sure how this would reduce confusion.

In the past, we did Alpha releases, but we generally found that the usage of
them was quite low compared to the amount of effort it takes to produce and
test them as release artifacts. Instead, we decided to put efforts towards
making Rawhide continuously be at the quality level we previously expected
for Alpha releases.

> Linux users who have never used Fedora or have little experience with
> Fedora need a better explanation as to what is so exciting about the 34
> release.  Phoronix is only covering the highlights, but a few YouTubers are
> explaining it, but they only do it in a virtual-machine for a very brief
> install review.

This really gets out of the scope of testing and into Mindshare, so I've
CC'd that list.

In addition to the Beta announcement, we also run Magazine articles like
https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-34-feature-focus-updated-activities-overview/,
More would always be welcome, of course.


> In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show
> actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in
> FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS, Ubuntu
> 20.10, etc.

Yes, that would be great. I don't think we're going to do a comparative
review as an official Fedora Project release — better to stand on our own
merits and let others do the comparing — but I do always love to see videos
and articles like this (at least, when some thought has been put into it
rather than just being a listicle).

-- 
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Fedora Project Leader
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Re: newbie question - Fedora 34

2021-03-23 Thread Richard Ryniker
>In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show
>actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in
>FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS,
>Ubuntu 20.10, etc.

Perhaps for the actual release, but this sounds premature for a Beta
version, where significant changes are still possible.  Of course, one
might practice with a Beta in order to make creation of such material
easier once the real product is available.
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Re: newbie question - Fedora 34

2021-03-23 Thread David
Yes, I just saw the announcement via Phoronix.

Ironically, I do not recall seeing it on the listserve, unless I overlooked
it.


David Locklear

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:13 AM Luna Jernberg 
wrote:

> https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=11192
> https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-the-release-of-fedora-34-beta/
>
> The actual real Beta came out earlier today
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 5:04 PM David  wrote:
>
>> Is the Fedora 34 Beta officially out in the wild ?
>>
>> or are the current Beta versions just "test-Betas" ??  or "rc-Betas"  for
>> in-house use only ?
>>
>> Seems confusing.   Why not do an public Alpha release, or at least a
>> quite Alpha release ?
>>
>>
>> Linux users who have never used Fedora or have little experience with
>> Fedora need a better explanation as to what is so exciting about the 34
>> release.  Phoronix is only covering the highlights, but a few YouTubers are
>> explaining it, but they only do it in a virtual-machine for a very brief
>> install review.
>>
>>
>> In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show
>> actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in
>> FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS, Ubuntu
>> 20.10, etc.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David Locklear
>>
>>
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Re: newbie question - Fedora 34

2021-03-23 Thread Luna Jernberg
https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=11192
https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-the-release-of-fedora-34-beta/

The actual real Beta came out earlier today

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 5:04 PM David  wrote:

> Is the Fedora 34 Beta officially out in the wild ?
>
> or are the current Beta versions just "test-Betas" ??  or "rc-Betas"  for
> in-house use only ?
>
> Seems confusing.   Why not do an public Alpha release, or at least a quite
> Alpha release ?
>
>
> Linux users who have never used Fedora or have little experience with
> Fedora need a better explanation as to what is so exciting about the 34
> release.  Phoronix is only covering the highlights, but a few YouTubers are
> explaining it, but they only do it in a virtual-machine for a very brief
> install review.
>
>
> In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show
> actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in
> FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS, Ubuntu
> 20.10, etc.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David Locklear
>
>
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newbie question - Fedora 34

2021-03-23 Thread David
Is the Fedora 34 Beta officially out in the wild ?

or are the current Beta versions just "test-Betas" ??  or "rc-Betas"  for
in-house use only ?

Seems confusing.   Why not do an public Alpha release, or at least a quite
Alpha release ?


Linux users who have never used Fedora or have little experience with
Fedora need a better explanation as to what is so exciting about the 34
release.  Phoronix is only covering the highlights, but a few YouTubers are
explaining it, but they only do it in a virtual-machine for a very brief
install review.


In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show
actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in
FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS, Ubuntu
20.10, etc.

Cheers,

David Locklear
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Fedora-34-20210323.n.0 compose check report

2021-03-23 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 10/187 (x86_64), 9/126 (aarch64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-34-20210322.n.0):

ID: 826340  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826340
ID: 826346  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826346
ID: 826357  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826357
ID: 826360  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826360
ID: 826422  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_cockpit@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826422
ID: 826431  Test: aarch64 Server-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826431
ID: 826448  Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz desktop_browser@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826448
ID: 826549  Test: aarch64 universal install_repository_http_variation@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826549
ID: 826578  Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826578

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-34-20210322.n.0):

ID: 826328  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826328
ID: 826341  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_login
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826341
ID: 826463  Test: x86_64 universal install_arabic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826463
ID: 826464  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826464
ID: 826477  Test: x86_64 universal install_cyrillic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826477
ID: 826486  Test: x86_64 universal install_european_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826486
ID: 826540  Test: aarch64 universal install_arabic_language@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826540
ID: 826541  Test: aarch64 universal install_asian_language@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826541
ID: 826548  Test: aarch64 universal install_cyrillic_language@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826548
ID: 826552  Test: aarch64 universal install_european_language@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826552

Soft failed openQA tests: 5/187 (x86_64), 6/126 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-34-20210322.n.0):

ID: 826290  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826290
ID: 826315  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826315
ID: 826338  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_printing
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826338
ID: 826378  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826378
ID: 826379  Test: aarch64 Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826379
ID: 826400  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826400
ID: 826426  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826426
ID: 826439  Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826439
ID: 826458  Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826458
ID: 826524  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826524
ID: 826575  Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826575

Passed openQA tests: 172/187 (x86_64), 104/126 (aarch64)

New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-34-20210322.n.0):

ID: 826310  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_resize_lvm
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826310
ID: 826344  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826344
ID: 826347  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso base_reboot_unmount
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826347
ID: 826348  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso base_system_logging
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826348
ID: 826349  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso base_update_cli
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826349
ID: 826350  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso base_services_start
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826350
ID: 826351  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso base_selinux
URL: 

Fedora 34 compose report: 20210323.n.0 changes

2021-03-23 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-34-20210322.n.0
NEW: Fedora-34-20210323.n.0

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Re: Self introduction : whoisanshul

2021-03-23 Thread Lukas Brabec
Hi Anshul,

I added more information to readme of QA Dashboard [1]. If anything is
unclear, contact me via email lbra...@redhat.com

[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/landingpage

Lukas

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 10:13 AM Anshul Sahai 4-Year B.Tech. Chemical
Engineering via test  wrote:

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Fedora-Cloud-32-20210323.0 compose check report

2021-03-23 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20210322.0):

ID: 826137  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826137
ID: 826144  Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826144

Passed openQA tests: 6/7 (x86_64), 6/7 (aarch64)
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Fedora-Cloud-33-20210323.0 compose check report

2021-03-23 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 1/7 (aarch64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20210322.0):

ID: 826126  Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 base_update_cli@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826126

Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20210322.0):

ID: 826123  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826123
ID: 826130  Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826130

Passed openQA tests: 5/7 (aarch64), 6/7 (x86_64)

New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20210322.0):

ID: 826125  Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 base_system_logging@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/826125
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