Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
I'll check them out -- I didn't know that Xara could do 16-bit images, and in all honesty I'd forgotten about Idruna entirely. :) Thanks :) - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 2:37 AM, Matthias Kappenberg m...@the-dimension.com wrote: Hi Rakesh, my 5 Cents: http://www.xara.com/us/ The *PRO can import 16bit images. and: http://www.idruna.com/photogenicshdr.html (8,16,32bit) and (one of my favourite software-companies): http://mediachance.com/realdraw/index.html in conjunction with http://mediachance.com/dap/dap2.html to convert the 16bit images after color adjustments to 8bit psd, tif or whatever Maybe not exactly what fits in your needs but nice apps in my opinion. Matthias - Original Message - *From:* Neil Cooke n...@neilcookegraphics.co.nz *To:* user-list@light.realsoft3d.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2009 11:04 PM *Subject:* Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux? @ Rakesh Photoshop is also the only app out there right now that will load 500MB 16-bit images (though some of the scans have approached 2 GB My renders for the mural size prints at 20,000 pixels etc, have meant over 500 GB file sizes. I have not come to any limits with my Corel Photopaint in handling these files. For one series I was shifting the colours into sepia but not by simply tweaking the balance but rather by over laying the colour copy onto a sepia tinted greyscale and adjusting transparency. Neil Cooke - Original Message - *From:* Andrew Berge abe...@virtualstudios.com.au *To:* user-list@light.realsoft3d.com *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2009 10:28 AM *Subject:* RE: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux? Rakesh, There is cine paint the film version of gimp which can support upto 32bit images and was developed specifically for use on film projects: http://www.cinepaint.org/ I haven't looked at it in quite a while, last I looked it was only just released and needed more development but perhaps by now it is more complete and may be useful for you. rgds, Andrew -- *From:* owner-l...@light.realsoft3d.com [mailto: owner-l...@light.realsoft3d.com] *On Behalf Of *Rakesh Malik *Sent:* Monday, 28 December 2009 2:42 AM *To:* user-list@light.realsoft3d.com *Subject:* Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux? Lightroom is only a partial solution for my needs; it's sufficient for my digital images, but it doesn't hold up with my big ones, and cleaning up dust spots and scratches on film scans is a LOT easier with Photoshop than with Lightroom, even with LR's new brush tools. :( Photoshop is also the only app out there right now that will load 500MB 16-bit images (though some of the scans have approached 2 GB, I cut back on the size because I only have 4 GB on my machine right now...). There are some compositing packages that would probably be just as capable as Photoshop, but they're all more expensive, and all of the ones that are available for Linux are a LOT more expensive :( - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Zaug z...@catmtn.com wrote: Rakesh Malik wrote: Unfortunately, there's nothing comparable to Photoshop for Linux that's in my price range right now... the Gimp just doesn't cut it for my photography. It is not Photoshop and is not a part of my photography workflow, but I understand that Lightroom meets the needs of most (many pro) photographers. It installed and ran well for me under Virtualbox; on a 64bit amd dual core and 3 gigs of RAM. I use to software that came with my alpha 850 and 900 cameras for initial color correction and dynamic range enhancement (it does this better than anything else I have tried, including LR); I run it under wine, but had to install it under VB first, then was a simple matter of moving the application to wine's windows folder. Running under wine instead of VB saves whatever memory you have alloted to your VB machine (about 1.25gig in my case), besides what the app actually requires. I realize that is getting close to the tweaking you speak of, but it only has to be done when installing the app. This method of installing under VB and moving to wine has worked for a few other applications, but not for all that I have tried; definitely worth checking for apps you run often under VB. I will also mention that Noise Ninja is available in a native Linux version; it _is_ part of my workflow - does a fantastic job and is very reasonably priced. I guess that my HW and networking requirements are minimal, but a couple
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
Hi Rakesh, my 5 Cents: http://www.xara.com/us/ The *PRO can import 16bit images. and: http://www.idruna.com/photogenicshdr.html (8,16,32bit) and (one of my favourite software-companies): http://mediachance.com/realdraw/index.html in conjunction with http://mediachance.com/dap/dap2.html to convert the 16bit images after color adjustments to 8bit psd, tif or whatever Maybe not exactly what fits in your needs but nice apps in my opinion. Matthias - Original Message - From: Neil Cooke To: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 11:04 PM Subject: Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux? @ Rakesh Photoshop is also the only app out there right now that will load 500MB 16-bit images (though some of the scans have approached 2 GB My renders for the mural size prints at 20,000 pixels etc, have meant over 500 GB file sizes. I have not come to any limits with my Corel Photopaint in handling these files. For one series I was shifting the colours into sepia but not by simply tweaking the balance but rather by over laying the colour copy onto a sepia tinted greyscale and adjusting transparency. Neil Cooke - Original Message - From: Andrew Berge To: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: RE: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux? Rakesh, There is cine paint the film version of gimp which can support upto 32bit images and was developed specifically for use on film projects: http://www.cinepaint.org/ I haven't looked at it in quite a while, last I looked it was only just released and needed more development but perhaps by now it is more complete and may be useful for you. rgds, Andrew From: owner-l...@light.realsoft3d.com [mailto:owner-l...@light.realsoft3d.com] On Behalf Of Rakesh Malik Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 2:42 AM To: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Subject: Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux? Lightroom is only a partial solution for my needs; it's sufficient for my digital images, but it doesn't hold up with my big ones, and cleaning up dust spots and scratches on film scans is a LOT easier with Photoshop than with Lightroom, even with LR's new brush tools. :( Photoshop is also the only app out there right now that will load 500MB 16-bit images (though some of the scans have approached 2 GB, I cut back on the size because I only have 4 GB on my machine right now...). There are some compositing packages that would probably be just as capable as Photoshop, but they're all more expensive, and all of the ones that are available for Linux are a LOT more expensive :( - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Zaug z...@catmtn.com wrote: Rakesh Malik wrote: Unfortunately, there's nothing comparable to Photoshop for Linux that's in my price range right now... the Gimp just doesn't cut it for my photography. It is not Photoshop and is not a part of my photography workflow, but I understand that Lightroom meets the needs of most (many pro) photographers. It installed and ran well for me under Virtualbox; on a 64bit amd dual core and 3 gigs of RAM. I use to software that came with my alpha 850 and 900 cameras for initial color correction and dynamic range enhancement (it does this better than anything else I have tried, including LR); I run it under wine, but had to install it under VB first, then was a simple matter of moving the application to wine's windows folder. Running under wine instead of VB saves whatever memory you have alloted to your VB machine (about 1.25gig in my case), besides what the app actually requires. I realize that is getting close to the tweaking you speak of, but it only has to be done when installing the app. This method of installing under VB and moving to wine has worked for a few other applications, but not for all that I have tried; definitely worth checking for apps you run often under VB. I will also mention that Noise Ninja is available in a native Linux version; it _is_ part of my workflow - does a fantastic job and is very reasonably priced. I guess that my HW and networking requirements are minimal, but a couple of the main reasons I am running Linux are that I very much like the advanced, journalling (apparently bulletproof) file systems available under Linux and of course it's small system footprint. CheerZ!, Zaug No virus found in this incoming message
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
On Sunday 27 Dec 2009, Rakesh Malik wrote: What could you expect more from an OS than window interface and file managing? I rate networking and device abstraction pretty highly as far as required OS functionality goes, but then I buy computers to use them, not to tinker with them. Personally, even though I'm a Linux fan, I think it's a waste of time, because it doesn't have the application and hardware options that windows does, and no matter how much anyone claims otherwise, the reality is that windows is the most economical platform for high-performance workstations currently available. I've long given up hope for Linux getting to that point... and unless Apple decides to start working with OEMs, they'll always cost more than the windows competition, but at least now they're in the same bracket as Dell, even though they are still more expensive. - Rakesh Malik Lol - or perhaps Ho, Ho, Ho is more appropriate; this is an unexpected thread :-) However, I think your main argument against choosing Linux i.e. lack of proprietary application and hardware support is actually going against the trend for increased support. To be sure, you couldn't describe the trend as being overwhelmingly strong atm, but it is there; RS3D for Linux and the Intel, nVidia and AMD/ATI drivers are good examples of that. While there are many good philosophical arguments for Linux there's really only one argument against it, and that only applies to businesses that make their money from the sale of expensive software i.e. Linux is bad because it challenges the software supply monopoly that software businesses depend upon to make their money. The thing is though, the software supply monopolies cannot stop open source collaboration and as a consequence the software business will inevitably contract in size and value. Although software giants like Microsoft and Oracle etc. look huge and invulnerable right now they'll eventually be 'beaten'. However, they won't be beaten as a result of being 'attacked' but simply by being bypassed; these software giants are slowly but surely becoming redundant. The funniest thing of all though, is that the entire debate is only a transient issue anyway. In the longer term, at some point in the next ten to twenty years, nearly all computer software will be written by Artificial Intelligences (AIs). Instead of running a conventional operating system on our hardware, as we do now, the OS will become an AI that can write its own software and even update and improve itself. Basically, the OS AI will have access to libraries of existing knowledge base routines and techniques that it will be able to pick and choose from, trying out different combinations with its users, and then collaborating with all the other AI OSs to compare, tune and further develop ideas. While I don't know of any such projects atm, I'm sure that they're inevitable, and the strong chances are that they'll be open source; the project is inherently open source by nature, for if the AIs are developing the software, who owns the copyright? The funny thing is that the strongest attempts to stop this devlopment will once again, as with the attmpts to make Linux illegal, come from the software business. What will make it funny is that the best argument they will have will be based on fear of a Terminator style 'Skynet' system evolving, which will inevitably try to take over the Earth - Lol. Heh! - a case of reality impersonating fiction. LeeE
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
Rakesh Malik wrote: Unfortunately, there's nothing comparable to Photoshop for Linux that's in my price range right now... the Gimp just doesn't cut it for my photography. It is not Photoshop and is not a part of my photography workflow, but I understand that Lightroom meets the needs of most (many pro) photographers. It installed and ran well for me under Virtualbox; on a 64bit amd dual core and 3 gigs of RAM. I use to software that came with my alpha 850 and 900 cameras for initial color correction and dynamic range enhancement (it does this better than anything else I have tried, including LR); I run it under wine, but had to install it under VB first, then was a simple matter of moving the application to wine's windows folder. Running under wine instead of VB saves whatever memory you have alloted to your VB machine (about 1.25gig in my case), besides what the app actually requires. I realize that is getting close to the tweaking you speak of, but it only has to be done when installing the app. This method of installing under VB and moving to wine has worked for a few other applications, but not for all that I have tried; definitely worth checking for apps you run often under VB. I will also mention that Noise Ninja is available in a native Linux version; it _is_ part of my workflow - does a fantastic job and is very reasonably priced. I guess that my HW and networking requirements are minimal, but a couple of the main reasons I am running Linux are that I very much like the advanced, journalling (apparently bulletproof) file systems available under Linux and of course it's small system footprint. CheerZ!, Zaug
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
My point was that Realsoft was alone in the Linux market as a serious 3D solution. And since the Amiga Workbench, there have been no evolution in operating system (only improvements). Linux is not an easy solution, the main problem is there is no standard on Linux : there is 75 different version. Only the core is the same. And that's why it will never succeed for regular users. I consider myself as a superuser, but sometimes it's difficult and annoying even for me. The hardware industry does not support Linux, and when they do they don't do it happily. But for expert and professional, Linux is the absolute solution. Microsoft on the other hand never stop releasing different version of the same OS. There are 3 different version of windows7 (basic, home, ultimate), why??? Stupid M$. Linux is better in handling security, multiple users, file sharing with protection, connecting to a server. Linux server is 0$ while the microsoft solution is 3000$ and it always need to be restarted at least once a week. I had to abandoned ubuntu recently because after an update, my sound card stopped, no solution on the internet. Hardware is the problem on Linux. And the last time I checked Realsoft was not running perfectly on my Ubuntu. The solution is not easy for me : Windows you pay and it work, Linux is free but you waste time and you don't know if it will work in the end. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.NeuroWorld.ws
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
Windows is American Linux is European IBM is American Amiga is European 360 is American PS3 is Japanese Your vote. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.NeuroWorld.ws
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
Commodore Amiga was created by Jai Miner, and it is 100% American product. Zaug wrote: Jean-Sebastien Perron wrote: Windows is American Linux is European IBM is American Amiga is European 360 is American PS3 is Japanese Your vote. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.NeuroWorld.ws Uh, how is the Amiga European? Designed by a man born in Arizona with RD and initial manufacturing taking place in California. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Miner http://elwoodb.free.fr/Amiga/JMS/jay-miner.html
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
Lightroom is only a partial solution for my needs; it's sufficient for my digital images, but it doesn't hold up with my big ones, and cleaning up dust spots and scratches on film scans is a LOT easier with Photoshop than with Lightroom, even with LR's new brush tools. :( Photoshop is also the only app out there right now that will load 500MB 16-bit images (though some of the scans have approached 2 GB, I cut back on the size because I only have 4 GB on my machine right now...). There are some compositing packages that would probably be just as capable as Photoshop, but they're all more expensive, and all of the ones that are available for Linux are a LOT more expensive :( - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Zaug z...@catmtn.com wrote: Rakesh Malik wrote: Unfortunately, there's nothing comparable to Photoshop for Linux that's in my price range right now... the Gimp just doesn't cut it for my photography. It is not Photoshop and is not a part of my photography workflow, but I understand that Lightroom meets the needs of most (many pro) photographers. It installed and ran well for me under Virtualbox; on a 64bit amd dual core and 3 gigs of RAM. I use to software that came with my alpha 850 and 900 cameras for initial color correction and dynamic range enhancement (it does this better than anything else I have tried, including LR); I run it under wine, but had to install it under VB first, then was a simple matter of moving the application to wine's windows folder. Running under wine instead of VB saves whatever memory you have alloted to your VB machine (about 1.25gig in my case), besides what the app actually requires. I realize that is getting close to the tweaking you speak of, but it only has to be done when installing the app. This method of installing under VB and moving to wine has worked for a few other applications, but not for all that I have tried; definitely worth checking for apps you run often under VB. I will also mention that Noise Ninja is available in a native Linux version; it _is_ part of my workflow - does a fantastic job and is very reasonably priced. I guess that my HW and networking requirements are minimal, but a couple of the main reasons I am running Linux are that I very much like the advanced, journalling (apparently bulletproof) file systems available under Linux and of course it's small system footprint. CheerZ!, Zaug
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
My point was that Realsoft was alone in the Linux market as a serious 3D solution. That's not entirely true... but it is the only one that's affordable at the moment, at least while Blender 2.5 is still in development. Most of the high-end film shops use Linux as their primary platform because it has quite a few advantages over Windows and isn't as restricted as OSX, but they can afford to have staff on hand to keep the effort of making it work out of the hands of the people who do the CG and compositing. One can hope... but I think that until some company decides to dedicate itself to making Linux a viable desktop OS, Windows will continue to be the best choice for most people, and OSX the 2nd best. Unfortunately, to match Windows, a solid and user-friendly UI is only one piece. The other piece, that is probably the larger barrier, is the equivalent of the Windows Hardware Quality Lab. That's what allows Windows to work with so many different configurations with so little end-user effort, and it's a tall order. Not a lot of companies could afford to do something like that. There are workstations out there that come ready to run with Linux fully configured and all, but they even make macs look pretty inexpensive. :-/ - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Jean-Sebastien Perron j...@neuroworld.wswrote: My point was that Realsoft was alone in the Linux market as a serious 3D solution. And since the Amiga Workbench, there have been no evolution in operating system (only improvements). Linux is not an easy solution, the main problem is there is no standard on Linux : there is 75 different version. Only the core is the same. And that's why it will never succeed for regular users. I consider myself as a superuser, but sometimes it's difficult and annoying even for me. The hardware industry does not support Linux, and when they do they don't do it happily. But for expert and professional, Linux is the absolute solution. Microsoft on the other hand never stop releasing different version of the same OS. There are 3 different version of windows7 (basic, home, ultimate), why??? Stupid M$. Linux is better in handling security, multiple users, file sharing with protection, connecting to a server. Linux server is 0$ while the microsoft solution is 3000$ and it always need to be restarted at least once a week. I had to abandoned ubuntu recently because after an update, my sound card stopped, no solution on the internet. Hardware is the problem on Linux. And the last time I checked Realsoft was not running perfectly on my Ubuntu. The solution is not easy for me : Windows you pay and it work, Linux is free but you waste time and you don't know if it will work in the end. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.NeuroWorld.ws
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
lol, I am so ignorant ; ) But Amiga was way more popular in Europe. While most Americans and Canadians were playing 16 color games with fm sound and pretending IBM was best. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.NeuroWorld.ws Zaug wrote: Jean-Sebastien Perron wrote: Windows is American Linux is European IBM is American Amiga is European 360 is American PS3 is Japanese Your vote. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.NeuroWorld.ws Uh, how is the Amiga European? Designed by a man born in Arizona with RD and initial manufacturing taking place in California. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Miner http://elwoodb.free.fr/Amiga/JMS/jay-miner.html
RE: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
Rakesh, There is cine paint the film version of gimp which can support upto 32bit images and was developed specifically for use on film projects: http://www.cinepaint.org/ I haven't looked at it in quite a while, last I looked it was only just released and needed more development but perhaps by now it is more complete and may be useful for you. rgds, Andrew _ From: owner-l...@light.realsoft3d.com [mailto:owner-l...@light.realsoft3d.com] On Behalf Of Rakesh Malik Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 2:42 AM To: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Subject: Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux? Lightroom is only a partial solution for my needs; it's sufficient for my digital images, but it doesn't hold up with my big ones, and cleaning up dust spots and scratches on film scans is a LOT easier with Photoshop than with Lightroom, even with LR's new brush tools. :( Photoshop is also the only app out there right now that will load 500MB 16-bit images (though some of the scans have approached 2 GB, I cut back on the size because I only have 4 GB on my machine right now...). There are some compositing packages that would probably be just as capable as Photoshop, but they're all more expensive, and all of the ones that are available for Linux are a LOT more expensive :( - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Zaug z...@catmtn.com wrote: Rakesh Malik wrote: Unfortunately, there's nothing comparable to Photoshop for Linux that's in my price range right now... the Gimp just doesn't cut it for my photography. It is not Photoshop and is not a part of my photography workflow, but I understand that Lightroom meets the needs of most (many pro) photographers. It installed and ran well for me under Virtualbox; on a 64bit amd dual core and 3 gigs of RAM. I use to software that came with my alpha 850 and 900 cameras for initial color correction and dynamic range enhancement (it does this better than anything else I have tried, including LR); I run it under wine, but had to install it under VB first, then was a simple matter of moving the application to wine's windows folder. Running under wine instead of VB saves whatever memory you have alloted to your VB machine (about 1.25gig in my case), besides what the app actually requires. I realize that is getting close to the tweaking you speak of, but it only has to be done when installing the app. This method of installing under VB and moving to wine has worked for a few other applications, but not for all that I have tried; definitely worth checking for apps you run often under VB. I will also mention that Noise Ninja is available in a native Linux version; it _is_ part of my workflow - does a fantastic job and is very reasonably priced. I guess that my HW and networking requirements are minimal, but a couple of the main reasons I am running Linux are that I very much like the advanced, journalling (apparently bulletproof) file systems available under Linux and of course it's small system footprint. CheerZ!, Zaug
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
@ Rakesh Photoshop is also the only app out there right now that will load 500MB 16-bit images (though some of the scans have approached 2 GB My renders for the mural size prints at 20,000 pixels etc, have meant over 500 GB file sizes. I have not come to any limits with my Corel Photopaint in handling these files. For one series I was shifting the colours into sepia but not by simply tweaking the balance but rather by over laying the colour copy onto a sepia tinted greyscale and adjusting transparency. Neil Cooke - Original Message - From: Andrew Berge To: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: RE: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux? Rakesh, There is cine paint the film version of gimp which can support upto 32bit images and was developed specifically for use on film projects: http://www.cinepaint.org/ I haven't looked at it in quite a while, last I looked it was only just released and needed more development but perhaps by now it is more complete and may be useful for you. rgds, Andrew -- From: owner-l...@light.realsoft3d.com [mailto:owner-l...@light.realsoft3d.com] On Behalf Of Rakesh Malik Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 2:42 AM To: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Subject: Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux? Lightroom is only a partial solution for my needs; it's sufficient for my digital images, but it doesn't hold up with my big ones, and cleaning up dust spots and scratches on film scans is a LOT easier with Photoshop than with Lightroom, even with LR's new brush tools. :( Photoshop is also the only app out there right now that will load 500MB 16-bit images (though some of the scans have approached 2 GB, I cut back on the size because I only have 4 GB on my machine right now...). There are some compositing packages that would probably be just as capable as Photoshop, but they're all more expensive, and all of the ones that are available for Linux are a LOT more expensive :( - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Zaug z...@catmtn.com wrote: Rakesh Malik wrote: Unfortunately, there's nothing comparable to Photoshop for Linux that's in my price range right now... the Gimp just doesn't cut it for my photography. It is not Photoshop and is not a part of my photography workflow, but I understand that Lightroom meets the needs of most (many pro) photographers. It installed and ran well for me under Virtualbox; on a 64bit amd dual core and 3 gigs of RAM. I use to software that came with my alpha 850 and 900 cameras for initial color correction and dynamic range enhancement (it does this better than anything else I have tried, including LR); I run it under wine, but had to install it under VB first, then was a simple matter of moving the application to wine's windows folder. Running under wine instead of VB saves whatever memory you have alloted to your VB machine (about 1.25gig in my case), besides what the app actually requires. I realize that is getting close to the tweaking you speak of, but it only has to be done when installing the app. This method of installing under VB and moving to wine has worked for a few other applications, but not for all that I have tried; definitely worth checking for apps you run often under VB. I will also mention that Noise Ninja is available in a native Linux version; it _is_ part of my workflow - does a fantastic job and is very reasonably priced. I guess that my HW and networking requirements are minimal, but a couple of the main reasons I am running Linux are that I very much like the advanced, journalling (apparently bulletproof) file systems available under Linux and of course it's small system footprint. CheerZ!, Zaug -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.120/2588 - Release Date: 12/26/09 19:02:00
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
What could you expect more from an OS than window interface and file managing? I rate networking and device abstraction pretty highly as far as required OS functionality goes, but then I buy computers to use them, not to tinker with them. Personally, even though I'm a Linux fan, I think it's a waste of time, because it doesn't have the application and hardware options that windows does, and no matter how much anyone claims otherwise, the reality is that windows is the most economical platform for high-performance workstations currently available. I've long given up hope for Linux getting to that point... and unless Apple decides to start working with OEMs, they'll always cost more than the windows competition, but at least now they're in the same bracket as Dell, even though they are still more expensive. - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Jean-Sebastien Perron j...@neuroworld.wswrote: I was looking at Windows7, M$ has really nothing to offer. Mac is way too expensive for such a low spec computer. Linux look like the only serious solution for professionals. Windows is going full 100% to home user, again. While Windows7 should cost no more than 50$, It has nothing new to offer. What could you expect more from an OS than window interface and file managing? Realsoft is cheaper on Linux. Maybe I was asleep under a rock, but Microsoft killed TrueSpace for good. Everything they touch turn to sh.. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.NeuroWorld.ws
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
First Americans! Now Windows vs. Linux? It's a slow news day for 3D graphics isn't it? :-D There's always 3D-Coat: http://www.3d-coat.com I couldn't get it to work on my laptop though, maybe because of my Intel integrated graphics card. I'm a happy Linux-only user (PS3 for playing). The only thing I miss is full webcam support, but for me there are far more pros than cons in Linux compared to OSX or Windows. For each his own. -Jouni 2009/12/27 Rakesh Malik tamer...@gmail.com: What could you expect more from an OS than window interface and file managing? I rate networking and device abstraction pretty highly as far as required OS functionality goes, but then I buy computers to use them, not to tinker with them. Personally, even though I'm a Linux fan, I think it's a waste of time, because it doesn't have the application and hardware options that windows does, and no matter how much anyone claims otherwise, the reality is that windows is the most economical platform for high-performance workstations currently available. I've long given up hope for Linux getting to that point... and unless Apple decides to start working with OEMs, they'll always cost more than the windows competition, but at least now they're in the same bracket as Dell, even though they are still more expensive. - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Jean-Sebastien Perron j...@neuroworld.ws wrote: I was looking at Windows7, M$ has really nothing to offer. Mac is way too expensive for such a low spec computer. Linux look like the only serious solution for professionals. Windows is going full 100% to home user, again. While Windows7 should cost no more than 50$, It has nothing new to offer. What could you expect more from an OS than window interface and file managing? Realsoft is cheaper on Linux. Maybe I was asleep under a rock, but Microsoft killed TrueSpace for good. Everything they touch turn to sh.. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.NeuroWorld.ws
Re: Is Realsoft the only real 3D solution on Linux?
Unfortunately, there's nothing comparable to Photoshop for Linux that's in my price range right now... the Gimp just doesn't cut it for my photography. Lack of support for an Intel graphics chip isn't surprising, they're pretty lousy. I'm not patient enough to deal with Linux anymore... which is why I gave up on it. That's also why I gave up on building my own computers; it's no longer less expensive than buying a pre-built machine, and my time is too valuable and limited to spend on tweaking. Maybe someday when I don't have to deal with a desk job anymore... - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States 2009/12/26 Jouni Hätinen jouni.hati...@iki.fi First Americans! Now Windows vs. Linux? It's a slow news day for 3D graphics isn't it? :-D There's always 3D-Coat: http://www.3d-coat.com I couldn't get it to work on my laptop though, maybe because of my Intel integrated graphics card. I'm a happy Linux-only user (PS3 for playing). The only thing I miss is full webcam support, but for me there are far more pros than cons in Linux compared to OSX or Windows. For each his own. -Jouni 2009/12/27 Rakesh Malik tamer...@gmail.com: What could you expect more from an OS than window interface and file managing? I rate networking and device abstraction pretty highly as far as required OS functionality goes, but then I buy computers to use them, not to tinker with them. Personally, even though I'm a Linux fan, I think it's a waste of time, because it doesn't have the application and hardware options that windows does, and no matter how much anyone claims otherwise, the reality is that windows is the most economical platform for high-performance workstations currently available. I've long given up hope for Linux getting to that point... and unless Apple decides to start working with OEMs, they'll always cost more than the windows competition, but at least now they're in the same bracket as Dell, even though they are still more expensive. - Rakesh Malik My Web Site: http://www.whitecranephotography.com Blog: http://tamerlin.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/baratheon Sent from Seattle, Washington, United States On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Jean-Sebastien Perron j...@neuroworld.ws wrote: I was looking at Windows7, M$ has really nothing to offer. Mac is way too expensive for such a low spec computer. Linux look like the only serious solution for professionals. Windows is going full 100% to home user, again. While Windows7 should cost no more than 50$, It has nothing new to offer. What could you expect more from an OS than window interface and file managing? Realsoft is cheaper on Linux. Maybe I was asleep under a rock, but Microsoft killed TrueSpace for good. Everything they touch turn to sh.. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.NeuroWorld.ws
