Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/31/18 12:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? My kernel is 4.18.16-200.fc28.x86_64 I just copied a 3GB iso to a FAT32 partition: real 2m6.738s Copying to EXT4 and syncing took almost 3 mins. So I don't see this problem with my laptop. Check the mount options, maybe there is something like sync set, although it still shouldn't take that long. Try running "iostat 5" while it's copying to see how much I/O is happening. Hi Sam, Wow! You sure called that one! Thank you! I ran to an fat32 and got: # time cp Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso /run/media/tony/FAT32TEST/. real 2m0.151s user 0m0.005s sys 0m1.483s This is the ntfs stick mounted from the desktop: /dev/sdc1 /run/media/todd/ fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0 It was fast. This is the way I originally mounted it: /dev/sdc1 /mnt/x fuseblk rw,sync,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0 And I do see the "sync". This is the code where I mounted it: mount -o users,exec,sync $Device $Target > /dev/nul 2>&1; With "sync" removed, this to a 3.1 port to the Samsung in question: # time cp Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso /mnt/Rent-A-Nerd/. cp: overwrite '/mnt/Rent-A-Nerd/./Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso'? y real0m8.254s user0m0.014s sys 0m1.318s And to double check, unmounted and mounted it somewhere else: # sha256sum Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso /run/media/todd/RENT-A-NERD/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso 569761a6f20ab2c619d7888fb1738253a264a844653d097f28903a6e2d1ee670 Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso 569761a6f20ab2c619d7888fb1738253a264a844653d097f28903a6e2d1ee670 /run/media/tdd/RENT-A-NERD/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/31/18 12:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? My kernel is 4.18.16-200.fc28.x86_64 I just copied a 3GB iso to a FAT32 partition: real 2m6.738s Copying to EXT4 and syncing took almost 3 mins. So I don't see this problem with my laptop. Check the mount options, maybe there is something like sync set, although it still shouldn't take that long. Try running "iostat 5" while it's copying to see how much I/O is happening. Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/31/18 12:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/1/18 1:23 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: What was the file system of your target usb flash drive? Ext4? NTFS? NTFS I can reformat if need be. Thanks for the feedback! No problem, used NTFS too. And I have several sticks I can reformat to ext4 and retest. I am suspicious of qemu-kvm being the culprit. But ... ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? My kernel is 4.18.16-200.fc28.x86_64 I just copied a 3GB iso to a FAT32 partition: real2m6.738s Copying to EXT4 and syncing took almost 3 mins. So I don't see this problem with my laptop. Check the mount options, maybe there is something like sync set, although it still shouldn't take that long. Try running "iostat 5" while it's copying to see how much I/O is happening. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 11/1/18 1:23 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > What was the file system of your target usb flash drive? > Ext4? NTFS? NTFS I can reformat if need be. -- Fedora Users - The place to go to beat OT dead horses :-) :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/30/18 6:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? Nope [egreshko@meimei ~]$ uname -r 4.18.16-200.fc28.x86_64 [egreshko@meimei ~]$ time cp Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso /run/media/egreshko/0E3723CF5E376877/ real 0m50.392s user 0m0.030s sys 0m4.014s Hi Ed, What was the file system of your target usb flash drive? Ext4? NTFS? -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/30/18 7:50 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/30/18 6:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> FC28, x86 >>> Xfce 4.12 >>> >>> I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over >>> to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And >>> this is typical. >>> >>> Is your usb also slow by any chance? >> >> Nope >> >> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ uname -r >> 4.18.16-200.fc28.x86_64 >> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ time cp Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso >> /run/media/egreshko/0E3723CF5E376877/ >> >> real 0m50.392s >> user 0m0.030s >> sys 0m4.014s >> >> > > mumble, mumble As several people have mentioned, you can only write to a USB stick "n" times. As the drive gets used more and more, writes will get slower and slower as the drive has to find "fresh" locations to write to. USB sticks are NOT rotating magnetic media or even SSD, so you really can't expect similar speeds. Don't think of USB sticks as hard drives, more like CD-RWL (CD, read-write limited). There are a number of motherboards out there where the firmware can force a USB3 port (normally using the xhci mechanism) to use the slower ehci mechanism, thereby negating the USB3 speed. You might check your BIOS/UEFI settings to see if that's the case. Also verify that the USB stick you're futzing with is, indeed, USB3 compliant and that all OTHER devices using that port are USB3. The port will slow down to accommodate the slowest device on it. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it! - -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
Hi, I use usb 3 sticks since years for running Fedora - OS on the sticks (32GB). By the time, may be in about 1 year the USB stick becomes slow and slower, because it's not made for OS's, it's more and more damaged, then I use the sticks for films and fotos, where slow is no problem. On Fedora there is F3 to test. On Windows there is a program, I think it's called Crystal Disk Mark or Crystal Diskinfo - I don't remember, which of those - , where You can check the write and read speed of the stick. Kind regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: ToddAndMargo via users An: Community support for Fedora users Cc: ToddAndMargo Verschickt: Di, 30. Okt 2018 23:46 Betreff: Is your USB3 slow? Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T ___users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.orgFedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.htmlList Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelinesList Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/30/18 6:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? Nope [egreshko@meimei ~]$ uname -r 4.18.16-200.fc28.x86_64 [egreshko@meimei ~]$ time cp Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso /run/media/egreshko/0E3723CF5E376877/ real 0m50.392s user 0m0.030s sys 0m4.014s mumble, mumble ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > FC28, x86 > Xfce 4.12 > > I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over > to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And > this is typical. > > Is your usb also slow by any chance? Nope [egreshko@meimei ~]$ uname -r 4.18.16-200.fc28.x86_64 [egreshko@meimei ~]$ time cp Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso /run/media/egreshko/0E3723CF5E376877/ real 0m50.392s user 0m0.030s sys 0m4.014s -- Fedora Users - The place to go to beat OT dead horses :-) :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/30/18 3:49 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T Extra info. "dd" goes like the wind. I just reported it: usb is excruciatingly slow: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1644476 -T Dear Fedora, Would you guys please fix this for me. It is driving me insane!!! Fedora 28, x64 Xfce 4.12 motherboard: Supermicro X11SAE-M USB transfer speeds are excruciatingly SLOW. This is a Samsung USB-C flash drive in a USB 3.0 slot $ ls -alh Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso -rw-r--r--. 1 qemu qemu 1.5G Oct 30 14:56 Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso $ time cp Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso /mnt/Rent-A-Nerd/eraseme.iso real49m21.251s user0m0.111s sys 0m16.157s 49 Minutes for 1.5 GB Also, please not that "dd" is fast as the wind! This is the same file dd'ed to a Kanguru Flash Blue 3 to the same slot: # time dd bs=4096 if=Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-29-20181029.1.iso of=/dev/sdb 370432+0 records in 370432+0 records out 1517289472 bytes (1.5 GB, 1.4 GiB) copied, 143.756 s, 10.6 MB/s real2m23.760s user0m0.126s sys 0m1.822s Two minutes. Yippee! So it is NOT the hardware. This problem repeats on all my different flash drives, including SSD flash drives in USB 3 carriers. Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is your USB3 slow?
On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T Extra info. "dd" goes like the wind. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Is your USB3 slow?
Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
