Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercue 2010
What Rupert said! Bummed that I couldn't make it, but many of you know why. I'll be around for the next one, hopefully! On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Have fun. Very sad not to be there. When it was announced, I planned to save money and buy a ticket. But it was my parent's 50th wedding anniversary party today anyway, so I couldn't make it regardless of parlous finances and carbon guilt. Send my love to everyone. Post vids like it's 2005. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 19 Jun 2010, at 16:02, Adam Quirk wrote: See you guys at 6pm tonight at the Bushwick Starr. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.comwrote: There's a Facebook page for Vloggercue if anyone is interested in that sort of thing: http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=117946824885160http://www.facebook.com/#%21/event.php?eid=117946824885160 Trying to get a rough estimate of how much booze and food we'll need. We'll send out an official invite thing next month. Thanks, Adam On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Markus Sandy markus.sa...@mac.comwrote: On Apr 27, 2010, at 3:04 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote: Clint Sharp and Clark ov Saturn!!! Miss them both. And I miss their videos very much. I will always cherish Melanie's meanness. I can't walk though an airport without thinking about that moment. And Renegades' videos too. Some are online, but some of the best are nowhere that I can find. Any hard disk I owned back then went kaput long ago. As they say: it's not a matter of 'if', but 'when' . Mean time to failure for sure. Please post your videos on the Internet Archive with a CC license folks. blip users can just check a box to make it so :) Drew put together a cool PSA about why: http://papyromancer.net/iacc-promo.html He's looking for folks who can translate the subtitles and has put the raw video (mashed from other IA/CC video of course): http://www.archive.org/details/InternetArchiveCreativeCommonsPromo and has the subtitles over at http://github.com/papyromancer/iacc-promo-subtitles/ Markus http://twitter.com/apperceptions [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 Love without power is sentimental, power without love is abusive - Martin Luther King [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Keeping tapes
I'm a bit biased due to my training as a historian, but throwing away any record that cannot be recreated makes me cringe, no matter how prosaic the content may be. Keep them, Adam, and keep a machine that can play/transfer the DV tapes. There will be a time in your life when you will have plenty of time to watch that footage, and I'm 99.99% sure there is something there that you will be very grateful to have kept ev On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.comwrote: I'm in the middle of a move, and came across the box of mini-DV tapes I've accumulated over the years. I'm seriously considering chucking it all. Will I, or anyone, really ever want to watch two-hundred hours of random clips from my life and work? There's a part of me that wants to keep everything, every second that I shot. But there's another part of me that knows I already cut and uploaded and shared the best parts of these tapes. I'm not really sure what I'm asking here, but you guys would probably have the best insight into this sort of thing. AQ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com Love without power is sentimental, power without love is abusive - Martin Luther King [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Case Study Showing How Videobloggers are Affecting Change
Hi everyone – In my work with the Repeal Prop 8 folks, I've had the pleasure of meeting Eugene Hedland and Bryan Choate from TruthandHope.org. These guys get it like we do, and believe that authentic conversations from real people are the best way to cause change. It's folks like Bryan and Eugene that are forcing the political establishment to work harder, work smarter and leave everyone with a living wage while keeping campaign costs down. Their latest ad is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RARArQ-P6Ik And I invite you to take a look at Truth Hope's latest work and their outlining of a study that shows how a videoblog-style political ad is far more effective than the status quo: http://tinyurl.com/m4e4ro -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Videoformes Video Festival in France: Final Call for Submissions
The Videoformes Festival is wonderful (and so are the organizers!). If any of you have any art video projects that you would like to submit, please follow the links below. -- Forwarded message -- From: videofor...@videoformes.com Date: 2009/9/22 Subject: Newsletter#52 To: http://www.nat.fr/videoformes/newsletter_web/2009/09_septembre/news_7/septembre09_7.php --- */* *VIDEOFORMES 2010* * // *DERNIER APPEL A PROJETS / *LAST CALL FOR PROJECTS** /// PRIX DE LA CREATION VIDEO 2010* http://www.nat.fr/videoformes/newsletter_web/2009/09_septembre/news_7/septembre09_7.php *XXV VIDEOFORMES 1013 / 03 / 2010 **Prix de la Création Vidéo VIDEOFORMES 2010* *Prix du Conseil Général du Puy de Dôme, Prix de la ville de Clermont-Ferrand.* Ce concours international est ouvert à tous. Les uvres présentées doivent témoigner dune écriture originale où la recherche artistique est prédominante sur les moyens techniques utilisés. *The competition is open to all video and media makers. Video works should be original or display a personal approach in which artistic research overshadows technicity. * DATE LIMITE D'INSCRIPTION :* 2 octobre 2009* *DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION : October 2nd, 2009* *Règlement et formulaire icihttp://www.videoformes-fest.com/inscriptions-prix-de-la-cr%C3%A9ation-vid%C3%A9o-2010/ ** Regulation and submission form herehttp://www.videoformes-fest-engl.com/submissions-prix-de-la-cr%C3%A9ation-vid%C3%A9o/ * *+++ infos http://www.videoformes.com* -- www.videoformes.com _ videofor...@videoformes.com Videoformes _ BP 80411 _ 63011 Clermont-Ferrand cedex 1 (France) T + 33 (0)4 73 17 02 17 _ F + 33 (0)4 73 93 05 45 pour vous désabonner, répondez à cet e-mail non en objet *in order to unsubscribe, answer this e-mail with no in subjet* -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] is this stupid?
It's 9 kinds of stupid, but hopefully the chemical poisoning only hurt the douches who did this. Yawn. On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM, miglsd27 mig...@gmail.com wrote: So it was my birthday last week and I´m probably just getting old and grumpy... but is this stupid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsNs1sh6LGQfeature=player_embedded Miguel. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Why I'm grateful to this group, reason #2,454,782
Thanks, y'all! On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Irina irina...@gmail.com wrote: congratulations jeffrey! On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Kath O'Donnell alia...@gmail.comaliak77%40gmail.com wrote: congrats Jeffrey! sounds like a great cause 2009/9/18 Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@gmail.comthejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com I'm really thrilled to announce that I was asked to join the statewide board (IAG) charged with restoring marriage equality in California by repealing Proposition 8 in California. You can read the press release here: http://www.restoreequality2010.com/2009/09/restore-equality-2010-welcomes-jeffrey-taylor-to-interim-administrative-group/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Why I'm grateful to this group, reason #2,454,782
I'm really thrilled to announce that I was asked to join the statewide board (IAG) charged with restoring marriage equality in California by repealing Proposition 8 in California. You can read the press release here: http://www.restoreequality2010.com/2009/09/restore-equality-2010-welcomes-jeffrey-taylor-to-interim-administrative-group/ I want to make clear that this is YOUR result. Without the training, contacts and values of this community, I never would have developed myself to be qualified for this position. Thanks to all of you who have contributed to me since I joined this group in 2005. If you have any questions or would like to help, feel free to drop me an e-mail. And if you have any friends in the press, especially in California, please feel free to forward them this e-mail and refer them to me for questions. With gratitude, Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Need some MAJOR AWESOME help....
Steady, Paul On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Paul Knight paul.knig...@btinternet.comwrote: Yeah and whilst you are looking have a look at everyone else's too, just to make it fair. And not a blatant spam. paul On 17 Sep 2009, at 20:28, pianoman0...@aol.com Pianoman0391%40aol.comwrote: Hi guys. I do a show called The Creative Fool where I basically talk to a camera for four minutes. It's pretty cool. There are robots. While I feel like it's already marketable to at least a few hundred potential viewers, what would you want to see? What would make it marketable to, say, a few thousand viewers? Spread the word, and thanks, Will Sisskind -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@gmail.comthejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 2:15 pm Subject: [videoblogging] Why I'm grateful to this group, reason #2,454,782 I'm really thrilled to announce that I was asked to join the statewide board (IAG) charged with restoring marriage equality in California by repealing Proposition 8 in California. You can read the press release here: http://www.restoreequality2010.com/2009/09/restore-equality-2010-welcomes-jeffrey-taylor-to-interim-administrative-group/ I want to make clear that this is YOUR result. Without the training, contacts and values of this community, I never would have developed myself to be qualified for this position. Thanks to all of you who have contributed to me since I joined this group in 2005. If you have any questions or would like to help, feel free to drop me an e-mail. And if you have any friends in the press, especially in California, please feel free to forward them this e-mail and refer them to me for questions. With gratitude, Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] VideoCamp SF
Hello everyone I just wanted to take a sec to plug VideoCamp SF (http://videocampsf.com), an event Schlomo Rabinowitz and I are producing here in San Francisco on October 16-17. Schlomo and I have designed this event to expand our community through training and development, and to also give everyone many diffrerent ways to participate. We've also tapped our community for instructors and speakers like Brook Hinton, Blll Streeter, Deirdré Straughan and Adam Quirk, so we're clear that we're giving some great training from seasoned experts. Here's a short description from the site: VideoCamp SF is a hyperlocal event to be held on the 16th and 17th of October. By bringing seasoned web video creators together with people who are seasoned in something else, we intend to train and develop various communities and individuals in utilizing the Best Practices in Online Video to help them excel in whatever something else they are up to. From understanding how to document the world, to how to get their Big Idea onto the web, VideoCampSF will help participants focus and achieve their online video goals. VideoCamp SF is comprised of three elements: - The *Best Practices in Online Video* classroom-track sessions (Newbie, Artist and Advocate Tracks) - The *Day 2 Practicum* - The *VideoCamp SF Moonlight Session* If anyone would like more information, please reply here or mail me directly. You can also follow VideoCamp SF on Twitter: http://twitter.com/videocampsf Cheers, Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What Randy mann Said in the Videoconference last night.
The holy grail for documentarians is an Oscar nomination or nomination for another award. Many of these awards require that the film only be seen on theatres in order to be nominated. As a result, the culture of documentary film-making will be geared towards traditional theatre presentation until the rules for awards begin to change. I personally feel that this is suppressing the art of documentary film, and hope that the motion picture academy and other orgs will relax these requirements in order to give documentarians more opportunity to distribute and make money from their work. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: This all just comes back full circle for me what I was talking about in the video conference - how do we bridge the gap between documentarians and videobloggers? Their content isn't all that different. They have similar editing workflow conversations. Our art forms are not that different and if anything are converging. Rupert was talking about doing filmatic screenings of videobloggers works in a theater like format. They're trying to get their content to the web. I am going to refrain from using the phrase Transmedia - because it will keep being rebranded and frankly terms like that drive me batty - but essentially its all converging. We're all artists - as much as the 'new media journalists' want to be, and essentially are - journalists. It all ends up on a screen (they just vary in size) its just a matter of us all helping each other out to get it on the screen we want it to be on - if not all of them - best we can. Thoughts? Ive long wondered why documentarians and filmmakers have been the slowest to adopt these tools and distribution. Ive heard the reasons but they seem bogus. I'm tired of money always being the problem. No one is ever just gong to give you money without you first being bold. I agree that videobloggers can definitely share an understanding of the online worldwhile more more formal filmmakers can share the process of gathering and telling a story. Id love to see a bridge created between the two groups. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Video library management
I need something similar for a mac, so let your mac freak flags fly on this topic as well, please. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.comwrote: Hey there, Does anyone have a good suggestions for a footage management system? I'd love a way to organize all my digital footage through titles, tags, size, date, compression, etc. I'm on a PC. Thanks, Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Live Streaming Blog World Expo
You may want to contact the kind folks at Blog TV. http://blogtv.com They've worked with us at Vlog Europe to stream in '07 and have worked with Podcamps as well. There has been some management changes, so I don't think any of my contacts are still there. Good luck. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Jim Turner jtur...@onebyonemedia.comwrote: This is one of the things that I have been championing for BlogWorld New Media Expo - live streaming the event. I have been talking to a few people about how to do it, but now I am looking for partners to work with to make it happen. I am not sure if companies like Blip, or Livestream or Ustream or others are the place to start, but in order to make this happen I need help to organize the event from that standpoint. Do any of you have any contacts where I might be able to start? I want those that can't attend the event be able to see the keynotes and the show floor and special interviews etc. Jim Turner Social Media Director Conference Director BlogWorld New Media Expo -- Jim Turner One By One Media, LLC www.onebyonemedia.com www.bloggersforhire.com @Genuine this email is: [X] bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Weekly virtual meetups
I'm up for it, too. Not sure if Vlog Europe is happening this year or not, but another global flashmeeting should happen nonetheless. Always nice to check in with each other. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Lauren Galanter lgalan...@gmail.comwrote: I would be into having a flashmeeting! I was actually thinking of proposing one too, ever since the vlogeurope one last year. of course i lamed out though : ) open video - discuss! + other things -lauren Lauren Galanter www.laurengalanter.com www.linkedin.com/in/laureng 610-761-4435 On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Paul Knight paul.knig...@btinternet.com paul.knight7%40btinternet.comwrote: Hi Kev and Rupert, I am well up for a meeting, I think I can still set one up, same here haven't been on one for yonks, so hey it would be good, a Saturday Night would sound cool to me. Yay, dump your twitter and come and have a good natter. Markus used to book them and he did a wiki for the schedules. Oh how things have changed. Paul http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:40, Rupert Howe wrote: Hey Kev! I was just catching up with your videos over the weekend :) The Flashmeetings haven't happened for quite a while. I think constant ambient intimacy on Twitter made them less crucial, just like it did to this group. But I used Flashmeeting again for something else a couple of weeks ago, and was reminded what a great thing it is. I reckon, given the current mood, we could probably get a crowd together. Maybe not once a week, but would be fun to try one and see... Who knows how to schedule these things? I think Markus used to do it. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 24-Aug-09, at 4:40 PM, vectorlime wrote: Hi everyone! It's been quite a while since I've posted, but I haven't forgotten about you all! As with things in life, things go up and down in priorities and have slowed down a bit from videoblogging since starting 4+ years ago now... or is it 5 now? Anyway, I miss the old days and the flood of information that I got from this group. This reminded me of when we all used to do those weekly or even twice weekly video conferences using a service that escapes my memory at the time. I was just curious as I would like to be more involved again. Let me know either way and hope you all have been well... will be on here more often now! Take care, Kev! http://www.limeblog.tv -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Google acquires On2
If this move brings forth convergence and a stronger demand for FOSS codecs, which I think it will, then I'm very happy about this. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Google have just bought On2, the video codec company http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/05/google_to_buy_on2/ There is speculation that they will open source the On2 codecs, and use them on YouTube. Apparently Ogg is based on another On2 codec previously open sourced by them. They claim that their latest codecs are as good as h264, at the same bitrate. So I guess potentially this could be a win for open video and finally let all browsers choose a standard codec for use with HTML5. I was just speaking with a friend about how feasible it would be for a big company to adopt the Ogg codec. An apple engineer was on the list asking questions: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora/2009-July/002415.html On2 open sourced the Ogg/Theora codec several years ago. Currently, it does really look good...though Verdi will say as good as H264 is not good enough. Not enough reason to switch. But now that google bought On2, they can put some muscle behind development. Might give developers and hardware makers reason to include a free codec by default. Could be a way to avoid having to pay for Flash/MPEGLA fees. Difficult to know exactly what they'll do. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://videocampsf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....
I'm surprised we're over a week out and people haven't brought back their takes to the list, but Lauren G. just put up a blog post with her take: http://laurengalanter.com/2009/06/30/open-video-round-up/ What did the other attendees think about the Conference, and what is there to tell people beyond the video tag and OGG Theora? I'll chime in later, but I just wanted start the conversation. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] iMovie 08/09 VS iMovie HD 06?
I still use iMovie '06 unless I need the bells and whistles of FCP. It's a great introduction to video editing, and I believe it inspires people towards more advanced video editing software. Apple's moves with iMovie have always puzzled me. You'd think they would want to guide more users to the revenue-generating FCP/FCE, and iMovie '06 is a great gateway to FCP/FCE. The two versions of iMovie that have come out since are not, and there's no logical and similar next thing for the advanced editor wanting to learn do more. And, as I said at OVC inspring entry-level video editing software is the only way to create sustainable demand for open video and codec/file format convergence. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: So, I can upgrade to iLife 09, install iMovie HD '06 from my discs? Yes, according to: http://muvipix.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28t=5089 Anybody else doing this: dual copies of iMovie HD 06 iMovie 09? I have a copy of both programs on my computer. I still like iMovie 06 because its what I started with way back when. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Videos from Iran
The way this has all unfolded is so amazing, and a realization of what so many of us have hoped for web video changing the world, and hopefully bringing about peace. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones shir...@taconic.net wrote: Amazing videos from citizen journalists/participants in Iran on Twitter. I suggest following #iranelection and watch the news flow. I am amazed at how people are getting info out of the country through back doors when so many of the channels are being blocked. Stan Hirson http://ThinkingGlobalActingLocal.com http://PinePlainsViews.com -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Windows Movie Maker---New Version
This is really hopeful, and I hope they exceed my rock-bottom expectations. The lack of an acceptable entry-level free video editor for Windows has not only made YouTube an eyesore, but is a serious barrier to media democracy. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: I never thought it would happen, but it seems Microsoft is actually updating Movie Maker, the free video editor that comes with their OS. Currently, Movie Maker is one shitty program and woe to anyone who tries editing with it. http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!41131.entryhttp://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%212F7EB29B42641D59%2141131.entry - Youd like more transitions, more effects, multiple soundtracks, and more video editing features like trim and split. As movie makers ourselves, were in the same boat as you are. We want those fun shatter transitions and warp effects just as much as you do! Were definitely working on improving this and plan to have a range of rich-editing capabilities in the first official version. - - Youd like something resembling a timeline in the product. In the Movie Maker beta, the storyboard didnt have the ability to represent time like a traditional timeline would. Weve heard you say that youd like to be able to drag and drop clips to get them to start and end where you want, and that youd like to have music and text that span multiple photos or video clips. Weve also heard that youd like to at a glance see which clips are longer than others, which clips have effects applied, and which clips have transitions. Now, I dont want to give too much away just yet (we still have work to do!), but were definitely aware of these limitations. Weve developed a new approach that we think will help address some of the shortcomings of the beta and will scale well from novice to experienced users without requiring people to switch views in order to get things done. I love that, You'd like something resembling a timeline in the product. I dont mean to rip on Microsoft, but it's a little insane that it;s a big revelation that a video editing program needs a good timeline as a workspace. Anyway...glad they are updating. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Windows Movie Maker---New Version
I hear you Susan, and agree, but the visuals and filters provided to Movie Maker users don't unleash as much potential. Content wins in the in, but a solid-colored title screens with comic sans ad infinitum has become a tried and true dead giveaway. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Susan kityk...@gmail.com wrote: Aw man. You know what? I'm going to have to disagree with you guys. The same way that Josh Leo can take a $2 camera and take awesome, thought-provoking photos, a video editor can take a not-top-of-the-line video editor and make a really kick-butt video. ...and not to argue, but crappy movies on YouTube can be made with iMovie and Final Cut Pro on their daddy's computer just as easy as they can on Windows Movie Maker... just sayin. I've made some fun videos with Movie Maker, like this set called Kid Vids, some shorts all from one day last summer: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kitykity/sets/72157606379352536 Hugs to all... Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@... wrote: This is really hopeful, and I hope they exceed my rock-bottom expectations. The lack of an acceptable entry-level free video editor for Windows has not only made YouTube an eyesore, but is a serious barrier to media democracy. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: I never thought it would happen, but it seems Microsoft is actually updating Movie Maker, the free video editor that comes with their OS. Currently, Movie Maker is one shitty program and woe to anyone who tries editing with it. http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns !2F7EB29B42641D59!41131.entry http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%212F7EB29B42641D59%2141131.entry - You'd like more transitions, more effects, multiple soundtracks, and more video editing features like trim and split. As movie makers ourselves, we're in the same boat as you are. We want those fun shatter transitions and warp effects just as much as you do! We're definitely working on improving this and plan to have a range of rich-editing capabilities in the first official version. - - You'd like something resembling a timeline in the product. In the Movie Maker beta, the storyboard didn't have the ability to represent time like a traditional timeline would. We've heard you say that you'd like to be able to drag and drop clips to get them to start and end where you want, and that you'd like to have music and text that span multiple photos or video clips. We've also heard that you'd like to at a glance see which clips are longer than others, which clips have effects applied, and which clips have transitions. Now, I don't want to give too much away just yet (we still have work to do!), but we're definitely aware of these limitations. We've developed a new approach that we think will help address some of the shortcomings of the beta and will scale well from novice to experienced users without requiring people to switch views in order to get things done. I love that, You'd like something resembling a timeline in the product. I dont mean to rip on Microsoft, but it's a little insane that it;s a big revelation that a video editing program needs a good timeline as a workspace. Anyway...glad they are updating. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Windows Movie Maker---New Version
And for talented and seemingly inspired people like you and Susan, that's great. My hopes for future releases of entry-level video editing software is that it inspires people to see the possibility to do better and to explore ways and means to become a better media creator. I'm not quite sure that Windows Media Maker does that. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Ian Beaumont i.beaum...@virgin.net wrote: From: Jeffrey Taylor I hear you Susan, and agree, but the visuals and filters provided to Movie Maker users don't unleash as much potential. Content wins in the in, but a solid-colored title screens with comic sans ad infinitum has become a tried and true dead giveaway. And you know what it is most a giveaway of? Not just that they used Windows Movie Maker, but that they have no imagination whatsoever. I dare you to examine the videos I've uploaded to my blog. I've used Movie Maker for quite a number of things on them, and I've used PowerDirector for other bits. You'll probably be able to tell which was done on which. But although I would hardly call any of my videos top class productions, I think they're decent enough to cut the mustard. Ian B http://cityprod.blogspot.com/ -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Great piece on Gawker: The End of Television as We Know It
See below. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Enric en...@cirne.com wrote: While this excerpt goes into aspects of technology, it is not discerning. The main thing it's missing is that while there's a dropping of technological limitations in producing content. The human limitations have not changed. Absolutely. And my fear is that corporate momentum will take over before people, especially young and underrepresented people, can create a momentum of media democracy. Media in its current state thrives on elitism and paternalisma feeling that people 'know what's best for the masses', and it also reminds me of the crack factories in the film New Jack City or producers of high fructose corn syrupfeels great, but it's not of much value...or is destructive. The biggest barriers to entry in the media now are now purely mental. On the viewing end, people still have only so much time and interest to spend on media. Unlike print while is non-linear -- you can read a book, blog, twitter stream to a point, and then come back and continue at any time later -- video and film are linear. If you stop watching a video 1/3 through and come back three days later, you lose the impact and need to start at the beginning. And you have only so many 30 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hour periods during you day to watch; depending on the linear media story length. This, and finding a happy medium between well-compensated engineers (screw the MBA-holders) and free open source codecs and software are key. We keep repeating that content is king, but we're beyond that now. There is good content out there, and we need to learn how to get the word out beyond early adopters and the 13-25 year-old market. The biggest failure of Web 2.0, for lack of a better term, is that people are too satisfied about the technology itself and are doing a crappy job at opening the possibility of these technologies to new audiences. This is a long subject, but I notice a strong, erroneous disbelief in marketing amongst the code-writing community coupled with a strong, erroneous belief that the technology speaks for and will sell itself. There are a set of practices amongst software/technology markerters in Silicon Valley in elsewhere that works well for business-to-business markets and tech-savvy early adopters, but does not play well in Peoria. This needs to be address, or web technologies will continue to be unsustainable bubbletrends. The fact that livestreaming and technologies that companies like Microsoft develop allow automatic recording of media do not diminish the problem of limited time people have to watch but amplify it. It means that it'll be even more important to edit media into meaningful pieces that provide useful information, rather than having a massive glut of linear media to wade through. This is where good marketing practices could help. Engineers could use psychographic research (i.e. research into how certain demographics of people behave) to use existing technologies that fit into people's lives. The flip camera is a good example of this, but there's so much more work to be done. When the printing press arrived it didn't make everyone a Moliere, Shakespeare or Dickens. But it allowed them to be recognized and be known quicker. I agree, but all we're getting right now when it comes to popular success are geeky Hugh Hefners, maybe some Tolkiens, some court jesters and a lot of Mickey Mouse Clubs. There's potential for so much more. Still 99% of people who wrote were only interesting to immediate friends and family -- or less than 1% of people. While 1% of the very talented story writers are interesting to almost everyone. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@... wrote: http://gawker.com/5265239/the-end-of-television-as-we-know-it , but here's the good stuff: You see, with the internet, yes *the internet*, creators of serialized content can circumvent the system and produce their shows independently, in much the same way that filmmakers began began circumventing the studio system to develop films a few years back-They raise money on their own, shoot the film they want to shoot, and then turn around and showcase at film festivals where, if the moon and the stars align just right, they're able to sell their film and it goes on to become a huge success. This model birthed some of the more smart, intelligent and important films of the modern era, shot from scripts that may have never seen the light of day otherwise in the traditional system, because they were too edgy or some horseshit like that. The problem, for years, with doing this with television was that content creators didn't have a way to showcase their product, they couldn't take it into a screening room and expect prospective buyers of content to sit there and spend hours watching a full
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June
Subject to change, but as of now I'm planning on staying at the Gershwin. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Lauren Galanter lgalan...@gmail.comwrote: Anyone else planning on staying at the conference hotel? Just curious as I booked a room for the sake of logistics ease... Lauren Galanter www.laurengalanter.com www.linkedin.com/in/laureng 610-761-4435 On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Jan McLaughlin jannie@gmail.comjannie.jan%40gmail.com wrote: This sounds totally great. Just got gainful employment that will take my attention for most of what's going on Friday, but Saturday Sunday, would LOVE to at least hang out if not attend the actual conference sessions. I'll be too brain dead for that by then. I've spots for four folks to stay sleeping on cots; five, with one on air mattress; 50 or more with floor space. It's urban camping. No shower, inconvenient transpo to the city. But there you have it. Call or email off list if interested. Jan Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Gena compumaven...@earthlink.netcompumavengal%40earthlink.net compumavengal%40earthlink.net wrote: Ok, now I feel like Heath usually does because I can't figure out how to swing it $$$ wise (airfare/housing.) I now have the official vlogger pouty face and I don't like it. Heath, you gotta go, even if it is just for Saturday. Whimpering my way to work, Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Rambos Locker rambos_loc...@... wrote: You just have to go Heath .. Someone has to wear the Sony Vegas hat ..hahaha Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Heath Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2009 4:52 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June Hmmm I wonder if I should keep up my streak of NOT going to events with other vloggers or should I break trend and go. Seeing Richard and Rupert and a few others may be worth it Heath http://heathparks. http://heathparks.com com --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%2540yahoogroups.com videoblogging%2540yahoogroups.com videoblogging%2540yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall richard@ wrote: Ok ... not only am I seriously considering going, but I registered, made reservations and everything ... so I am going, and it took me two emails to say so ... see you there ... richard On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard (Show) Hall richard@ wrote: I'm seriously considering going. ...peace...richard On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I was told the rooms are about $170/night with the group rate, so I'd be interested in a roomshare if anyone else is. Are people planning on staying elsewhere? I want to make sure I'm where the action is :-) People are staying all over town...usually couchsurfing with friends. I know its expensive to stay in NYC. The hostels are considerably cheaper, but offer much less privacy. You could make a page on http://videobloggin http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/ ggroup.pbwiki.com/ if you wanted to start a place to find room sharing. The event is at NYU...so Im sure all the after parties will take place in Lower East Side. Jay -- http://ryanishungry http://ryanishungry.com .com http://jaydedman. http://jaydedman.com com http://twitter. http://twitter.com/jaydedman com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- Richard (Show) Hall http://richardshow. http://richardshow.org org -- Richard (Show) Hall http://richardshow. http://richardshow.org org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax
[videoblogging] Artists and Healthcare
This morning, I tweeted a link to a Diary from the Daily Kos ( http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/5/25/735194/-R.I.P.-Jay-Bennett ) about the death of Jay Bennett, known for his collaborations with Wilco and the subsequent lawsuit he was filing. Here's an interesting quote from the diary: However, with this morning's news, we now know what drove Bennett to sue a former friend and bandmate: the threat of overwhelming medical bills. Like many artists and countless others who do not pursue traditional forms of employment, Bennett lacked health insurance. At the time of his death, Bennett was suffering from severe pain, and though he desperately needed hip replacement surgery, he was concerned that seeking help would send him spiraling into crippling debt. Despite the claims of health care industry apologists, many people like Bennett are beyond assistance. Struggling to secure a steady source of income early on, musicians are often forced to choose between their vocation and health insurance when they're young, and by the time they get old, they typically find themselves ineligible to receive coverage under any plan whatsoever. Stories like this underline the desperate need for health reform that, at the very least, includes a public option. The United States needs artists and innovators who work outside the confines of the corporate safety net, and we should not be forcing them to choose between their health and the art that enriches all of our lives. Pause for thought, and when a videoblogger I know tweeted that s/he didn't have health insurance, I thought about how many people I know on this list, including myself, who don't have coverage at the moment. I don't want to get into political discussion about healthcare, but I was wondering if anyone out there knows if there's a way under the current system for people like us to bundle together and get lower rates on health insurance, or if there's any truly good, truly economical policy that freelancers/artists can buy? There's plenty of other places to discuss policy, but I just wanted to throw this out there in case there was a way a bunch of vloggers got together to get covered. Cheers, Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
With set-top boxes failing, major brands like Sony are planning on adding ethernet ports to their flatscreens: http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2521446,00.html Plug and play internet on televisions could be a total game-changer. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
And like Social Media, YouTube, videoblogging, twitter, and other trends, it will take 3 years to become mainstream. Year 1: Discovery by early-adopters Year 2: Corporate Discovery and creation of budget for projects in... Year 3: Where everything goes mainstream. I keep talking about this three year trend to people, saying that we have to move fast if we want to change the media. Look at how things changed for videoblogging alone between 2004 and 2007, or even from 2006 to now? This is not a dress rehearsal. We can't just sit and talk about changing the state of media, we must take action. The corporate momentum and infrastructure/warchest for communication has and will drown out our conversations, no matter how many positive benefits our ideas will bring to the world. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote: This is it. On 24-May-09, at 5:05 PM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: With set-top boxes failing, major brands like Sony are planning on adding ethernet ports to their flatscreens: http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2521446,00.html Plug and play internet on televisions could be a total game-changer. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Great piece on Gawker: The End of Television as We Know It
http://gawker.com/5265239/the-end-of-television-as-we-know-it , but here's the good stuff: You see, with the internet, yes *the internet*, creators of serialized content can circumvent the system and produce their shows independently, in much the same way that filmmakers began began circumventing the studio system to develop films a few years back-They raise money on their own, shoot the film they want to shoot, and then turn around and showcase at film festivals where, if the moon and the stars align just right, they're able to sell their film and it goes on to become a huge success. This model birthed some of the more smart, intelligent and important films of the modern era, shot from scripts that may have never seen the light of day otherwise in the traditional system, because they were too edgy or some horseshit like that. The problem, for years, with doing this with television was that content creators didn't have a way to showcase their product, they couldn't take it into a screening room and expect prospective buyers of content to sit there and spend hours watching a full season of television to see if it was worth a shit or not, but with the internet they now do. More and more Americans are watching more and more video online for longer and longer periods of time, so it stands to reason that sooner or later, someone is going to raise their own money, shoot their own full length show (half hour to an hour long) without network interference, put it on the internet, and it will become a cultural phenomenon, something that people, average people and not just early adapters, talk about around the proverbial water cooler at work. In fact, it's probably on the verge of happening right now. And then a network will swoop in and buy the show to bring it to those still not watching television on the internet, and other shows will be developed online and other networks will swoop in and buy them too, but eventually everyone will watch episodic shows online and there won't be a need for the traditional networks any longer. Hell, right now, Microsoft and Apple are both developing programs that will capture all of the video you want to watch by recording it live as it goes up onto the web and saving it for the user to view later, just like a DVR or TiVo, except for your computer and handheld electronic devices. These sort of software programs currently being developed aggregate video content from all over the web so the user can watch everything in one place instead of surfing around from site to site to watch the things they want to watch. In other words, the need for television networks to develop and air shows will evaporate. They'll still be there, it's a stretch to say they'll die off altogether, but they will never be the same. And we'll all be better off for that. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Can someone remind me of that service?
Tubemogul? On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo.com wrote: The one that allows video submission to multiple video sites? Adam W. Warner [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The continuing story of Ogg/Theora, the open source codec
This is all very, very good, but there need to be a 'marketing' strategy and tactical plan to go along with the development strategy, or else I fear for the result. Word of mouth isn't good enough. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:19 AM, tom_a_sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auwrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: I have been using theora for a few years now but people keep asking for mp4 versions of the videos for use on their media player and business want the video in some windows-centric format or on a CD/DVD (but don't stand the file format/codec) I see no reason why you couldnt offer both versions. Embed the Ogg...but offer an mp4 download link. Or embed the Ogg version and revert to mp4 for browers that don't read it: that what I have been doing on my website via Mv_embed http://metavid.org/w/index.php/Mv_embed snip This stuff is still very new and chaotic, but its coming on strong. When the new Firefox natively supports Ogg, I think we'll see examples of how HTML5 enables more creativity on the pageversus video players locking in the media. Proof will need to be seen though. yea, but that still dose not resolve the lack of knowledge in the IT people in business or the public -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Sony Pictures CEO: I'm A Guy Who Doesn't See Anything Good Having Come From The Internet. Period.
See the infuriating link: http://www.wwd.com/media-news/fashion-memopad/memo-pad-uniqlo-nabs-deyn-bad-internet-classic-martha-2136751?src=rss/recentstories/20090515#/article/media-news/fashion-memopad/memo-pad-uniqlo-nabs-deyn-bad-internet-classic-martha-2136751?page=2 The media companies will not move forward until they stop blaming 14 year-olds from Muskogee downloading Lady Gaga songs for their broken model and start admitting the part they have played in this mess: 1. They have devalued their product. 2. They treat artists like utter crap, and the dirty little secret is the artists aren't usually the ones losing money here. 3. They are too busy blaming their own consumers instead of using that energy to create new profit models and innovate. Media is democratizing and flattening, and just like they would have a too bad, so sad attitude towards a competitor that wasn't keeping up with the times, I feel the same. All media companies have been horrible at accepting the following realities: 1. The price point for consumable media is now free. Art may very well be what you can get away with, as Warhol says, but Sony and others fail to realize that they are now getting away with less. They need to quit blaming consumers for their not seeing enough value in formulaic schlock to pay for it. 2. An army of independents are creating on the web, and many are making brilliant, quality, valuable media. Media companies have virtually ignored them. This is too bad, because the costs of talent and content acquisition could be MAJORLY cut here. 3. There is a collapse in the greased palms system when it comes to the financing and production of media. There is less need for middlemen than ever, and an industry filled with hangers-on are having their livelihoods threatened. Everyone is just plain scared, and these people tend to feel a little bit better than everyone else, so attacking that kiddo in Muskogee is completely logical to them. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Reminder: Open Video Conference in June
Lots of folks. I'll let everyone else confirm, but I'll be there. 2009/5/15 Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org Who's going? On 10-May-09, at 6:34 PM, Jay dedman wrote: If you've been trying to find an excuse to visit NYC this June, don't forget about the Open Video Conference. Be a very cool group of folks coming together. Time to sign up. Jay _ The Open Video Conference (June 19-20 in NYC) is asking big questions about the future of video online. As the medium matures, we face a crossroads: will technology and public policy support a more participatory cultureone that encourages and enables free expression and broader cultural engagement? Or will online video become a glorified TV-on-demand service, a central part of a permissions-based culture? Web video holds tremendous potential, but limits on broadband, playback technology, and fair use threaten to undermine the ability of individuals to engage in dialogues in and around this new media ecosystem. Open Video Conference June 19-20, 2009 New York City 40 Washington Square South (NYU Law School) http://openvideoconference.org Bestselling author Clay Shirky will give a talk about the disruptive effects of the web. Harvard Professor Jonathan Zittrain (TBC) will moderate a discussion on industry perspectives with Boxee CEO Avner Ronen, Blip.tv CEO Mike Hudack, and representatives from YouTube and Adobe. Lizz Winstead, activist and co-creator of The Daily Show, will discuss web video as political commentary. Legendary hacker Jon Lech Johansen (DVD Jon) will address data portability. Mozilla, makers of the Firefox web browser, will highlight what it's doing to cement open video standards. You'll hear from Anthony Falzoneexecutive director at Stanford's Fair Use Project and counsel to graphic artist Shepherd Faireyabout the new battle lines drawn around fair use. Voices from the blogosphere, public media, and traditional media will explore the ways to make their content work in an open video ecosystem, and much more. This is just a peekhave a look at our schedule page for more details: http://www.openvideoconference.org/agenda In addition to two full days of high-profile programming, you can expect a slate of workshops and behind-the-scenes technical working groups with leading edge video developers from free software projects like: VLC, Ogg Theora, GStreamer, Blender, PiTiVi, Miro, Kaltura, Firefox, and many more. This event should interest anyone with a stake in art, culture, technology, policy, journalism, or online business. Organizers and partners include: Participatory Culture Foundation, Yale ISP, iCommons, Kaltura, Mozilla, Harvard's Berkman Center, Free Press, Creative Commons, and more. Register while there's space: http://openvideoconference.org/registration/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Ze Frank and Creative Commons
Thanks for posting this here, Eddie. I saw some of it after you posted it on Twitter, and it's really good, thought-provoking stuff. I'll make a more lengthy post after I watch the vids in their entirety, but I wanted to back up Eddie's recommendation these are really good and worth watching. 2009/5/15 Eddie Codel ed...@eddie.com I was luckily enough be invited to a research exchange seminar thing at the Institute for the Future yesterday. They're a nonprofit that does short and long term forecasting of trends among many online things, including video. Ze Frank was there and had a few things to say about Creative Commons and what he sees as appropriation of his content. I've known that Ze's been down on CC for awhile, mainly because he doesn't see CC helping independents get paid, but this is the first time I've seen him talk passionately about it in a room full of people. Would be curious if other creators here have similar thoughts. http://www.eddie.com/2009/05/15/ze-frank-debates-value-of-creative-commons/ -eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new media expo, etc. The people who make their living from social media that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog and make money from blogging. But this doesn't include the majority of vloggers, I don't think. And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much more intimate. What does anybody else think? Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his experience of organising VlogEurope? Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: Hi, When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of vloggercon and if there was going to be another one. People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it. I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They would handle all the registration. Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo. Are people interested in this? Oct 15-17 Las Vegas. http://www.blogworldexpo.com/ Air and hotels are cheap. Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track within thier conference. Thanks, --Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
Between Bill and I (I grew up in St. Louis), I wager we can make that $500 worth every penny. St. Louis can be an insanely great town, but you have to know where to go. 2009/5/14 John Coffey jimmycrackhead2...@yahoo.com Hey Rupert, thanks for reminding me I still have 2 plane plane tix to St Louis for the event Bill Streeter was going to do last summer. Nothing like pissing away $500. JC --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: From: Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:49 AM I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across the country/world to attend a vlogging event. You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's priorities and interests. Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets. Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the economy. The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend. There's a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new media expo, etc. The people who make their living from social media that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog and make money from blogging. But this doesn't include the majority of vloggers, I don't think. And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much more intimate. What does anybody else think? Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his experience of organising VlogEurope? Rupert http://twittervlog. tv On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: Hi, When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of vloggercon and if there was going to be another one. People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it. I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They would handle all the registration. Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo. Are people interested in this? Oct 15-17 Las Vegas. http://www.blogworl dexpo.com/ Air and hotels are cheap. Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track within thier conference. Thanks, --Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
Thanks, Jim. I totally appreciate what you're saying, and thank you for taking what I had to say in the spirit it was given. There is a market for a well-done web video event that listens and serves the many openly-stated needs out there, but I think any association with Vloggercon wouldn't serve any party involved. Starting fresh and creating your own context is what I see as the most prudent course of action here. I think there's more infrastructure to build on from your end than Vloggercon's, as the web video space has become an entirely different animal with many new players since the last Vloggercon event. If there's anything you would like to talk to the organizers about, shoot me a mail directly and I will be happy to connect you. J 2009/5/14 Jim Turner jtur...@onebyonemedia.com These are some great points Jeffrey and I am going to make sure that I voice them to the the leadership at Blog World and New Media Expo. To the extent that we are replacing Vloggercon or any other I'm not sure that is our intent. The idea behind putting a vloggercon type event together at Blog World is to leverage the already existing infrastructure and such. I am not purporting to belong to the group of vloggers, as I indicated I am just now getting into it. I felt I needed to get an idea of what it was before I could approach people and sound even remotely educated in their world. As an executive Board Member of the International Blogging and New Media Association I am also very interested in the education and cause side of vlogging and other ideas so feel free to give me some guidance in that regard. I think this scope of ideas are good to know in that respect as well. ...and yes, I agree Steve is a RAWK star! Jim On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. The first thing to say is how wonderful I think Steve Garfield and his commitment to community is. He is such an asset to anyone who knows him and any community that he is a part of. I don't know him too well, but he is clearly one of the most valuable connectors around, and is a model for anyone interested in creating community on the web. Funny this should all come up...we've just finalized this year's Vlog Europe being in Paris and Clermont-Ferrand, France this year yesterday. We'll have dates and other things later, and you'll find more communications coming from Raymond and Loiez than me, as I'm stepping back a bit and letting the Europeans run their own European event now that I'm in San Francisco. With Vlog Europe, we have/had the added benefit of very easy accessibility to different cultures and different cities every year. And we've also been SUPER lucky to have faithful sponsors that get that we're not trying to be a major for-profit event like Le Web, New Media Expo or Jeff Pulver's events. In the end, though, I think the event has survived because there's a core committed group that really wants this to happen every year and this really frames the event and that the event has never completely lost momentum. Vlog Europe (and in my opinion, Vloggercon too) has avoided the temptations of being part of the larger tech conference/event circuit and being a for-profit conference. Once someone starts making money out of the deal, everything changes and, rightly or wrongly, there's some discomfort with that and things tend to fall apart. While the ethos of that era is highly influential to me and to many of you, I think any attempt to force the same outcomes we had back then would result in disappointment and possibly disaster. We've all narrowed our foci and changed, and I think this comes out of a realization that we are just one community in a larger, non-linear web video community that has developed. Because of this, people who would have organized Vloggercon years ago are knee-deep in other projects, and organizing a conference of the size and scope that Vloggercon covered would be a massive project. Presented with the choice of Vloggercon or teaching people to videoblog, starting advocacy projects like the Open Video Alliance and the artist/documentarian org I am working to create and others, many of us are choosing the latter. In short, I think many in the community that made up the two Vloggercons are more interested in using their influence and tenure in this community to drive change instead of organizing a conference with more of a general purpose than a conference with a specific purpose. To be perfectly honest, I personally have discomfort with any for-profit entity taking over the Vloggercon name and what those two events represent. This is not up to me. But knowing the people that organized Vloggercon, I am willing to bet the farm that they agree and that it is unlikely that those who own the rights to the name will allow anyone to take it over
Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging in Rwanda
Great stuff. Hooray! 2009/4/23 Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo.com Very cool, thanks for sharing:) Adam W. Warner From: Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com jay.dedman%40gmail.com To: Videobloggers videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:33:28 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Videoblogging in Rwanda A member of this community, Ashley Pinedo, is in Rwanda this year teaching people how to document their own lives. She just started posting videos: http://ashattack. blogspot. com/ Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman. com http://twitter. com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Student work screening online
Morning Jen First: Yay. Thanks for doing this. Second: Will the Mogulus channel repeat the screening on a loop after the event itself? Cheers, J 2009/4/20 Jen P proctor...@yahoo.com Hi all, I want to invite you to join my Cinematic Multimedia class for a special online screening of their work this Thursday, 4/23, at ~4pm (EDT/UTC -0400). We'll be using Mogulus to stream their projects, and if you haven't used it, it's a fun and interactive way to view work online. You can participate in a chat with students and other audience members while watching the show. Students will also appear on camera to introduce their videos, which will include a lot of kinetic typography and motion graphics work, as well as other forms. Just go to: http://www.mogulus.com/cinematicmultimedia We'll get started a few minutes after 4pm. Anyone can watch and participate - you don't need to be registered to join. I anticipate some pretty interesting and inventive projects to be shown! Hope to see you there! Jen Grand Valley State University, Allendale/Grand Rapids, Michigan -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the coming Broadband limit?
Well, it is the case in France, where France Telecom, Free and other companies have been battling it out for years...all unlimited. 2009/4/13 Patrick Delongchamp pdelongch...@gmail.com As a Canadian, it seems hysterical to me as well. If bandwidth concerns were in fact misleading than you would expect countries with a lot of competition (e.g. UK) to have ISPs all offering unlimited bandwidth at ultra low costs. The opposite seems to be the case. On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.comjay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: OK $150 a month for 'virtually unlimited' seems a tad pricey. Maybe $75/month for 100GB is slightly more sane though, does anybody who uses a lot of video online monitor their bandwidth to see if they get anywhere near 100GB a month? Its expensive enough to moan at the companies involved, but isnt extreme enough to confirm that 'they hope to kill Internet video before it's any more popular.' which is what that thing you pasted is trying to suggest in a rather hysterical way. Hmmmattention grabbing but not hysterical. Currentlya single HD show is usually about 750MB. Almost a gig. The size of files will only increase as quality gets better. Start doing the math based on the things you watch. we arent even calculating the amount of bandwidth a person uses for daily web use. If someone must think about every megabyte they download, this factor weighs on the choice to download a video by some unknown. If we are thinking that in the near future people will be watching many hours of high-def TV via the internet every day, then there are capacity issues which someone will have to pay for. I never heard what happened to the battle in the UK between the ISPs and the BBC who were using peer2peer to make TV shows available to customers, thus saddling the ISPs with a greater bandwidth bill, causing them to moan, All I know is that viewers have certainly embraced downloading TV shows legitimately via the net here, and so far there has not been any substantial change to ISP price structure or quality of service as a result. Until broadband providers give proof that the networks are overloaded, I think this argument is specious. The strategy is to squeeze more profit out of broadband, especially if people continue to cancel their cable TV subscriptions because they are just pulling down the shows they want to watch. Fair enough. These companies are private and can charge 10 per GB if they want. But let's all be very aware of the truth behind the decisions, so consumers can make clear choices. This also allows us as voters to make sure government is not giving unfair monopolies to private companies who are squeezing every cent out of their customers. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Call for Entries: LA GLBT Center's Project Pushback Video Contest
From towleroadhttp://www.towleroad.com/2009/04/la-gay-lesbian-center-launches-marriage-equality-video-contest.html : The L.A. Gay Lesbian Center today launched Project Pushbackhttp://www.lagaycenter.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Project_Pushback, a competition designed to inspire the production of video messages in support of marriage equality: [image: Pushback]http://towleroad.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c730253ef0115700ea206970b-piProject Pushback isnt about a specific election but about building support for the freedom to marry long before campaign season. The best messages will educate and persuade voters as well as motivate people who are already supportive to be more active in promoting marriage equality. Anyone over 18 can enter and the deadline for submissions is May 18. One Grand Prize winner will receive a cash prize of $2,500. One Peoples Choice Award winner will receive a cash prize of $1,000. Everyone who votes or enters will have the chance to win a Sony HD Video Camera valued at $1,000. I've agreed to be one of the judges who weighs in after the public has voted. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Interwebs show, business of tech and new media
Finally, a tech show that's more substance and less boobies! P.S. Do a search for the Yahoo Videoblogging Group. It needs to be SEO'd (especially the video links) if anyone feels inclined to spend the time. 2009/4/4 Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones shir...@taconic.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert rup...@... wrote: . I might do a brief video about this next week for videoblogging week so you all can see what I'm talking about. I hope you do! I sure could use it. I think we all could. Great explanation of SEO. Stan Stan Hirson http://PinePlainsViews.com http://LifeWithHorses.com coming: http://ThinkingGlobalActingLocal.com -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] The Streamy Awards - The Hollywood Monster?
Oops. last sentence should read: If we want more independents like Zadi and Steve to be recognized for their exemplary work, I think we're going to have to concentrate more on where we agree than on partisan rancor. 2009/4/1 Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@gmail.com The Streamys were far from perfect, but there were as many steps in the right direction as there were in the same or wrong direction. If we want more independents like Zadi and Steve to be recognized for their exemplary work, I think we're going to have to concentrate more on where we create partisan rancor. 2009/3/31 Michael Sullivan sullele...@gmail.com Are we recreating the Hollywood monster? Well, if the monster is a monster who needs recognition and validation for the work it has labored over, if it is the monster of ideas and creation, then yes. But as long as the internet is free, so is the monster. Our monster is not behind a walled garden, our monster is constantly recreated with a great story, a camera and an internet connection. As long as that is true, and as long as we keep the conversation open, our monster is pretty bad ass. http://www.zadidiaz.com/home/2009/3/31/1st-annual-streamy-awards-once-in-a-lifetime.html And to think i almost posted something insulting! Zadi's post here changed my mind. Cheers! Sull [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] The Streamy Awards - The Hollywood Monster?
The Streamys were far from perfect, but there were as many steps in the right direction as there were in the same or wrong direction. If we want more independents like Zadi and Steve to be recognized for their exemplary work, I think we're going to have to concentrate more on where we create partisan rancor. 2009/3/31 Michael Sullivan sullele...@gmail.com Are we recreating the Hollywood monster? Well, if the monster is a monster who needs recognition and validation for the work it has labored over, if it is the monster of ideas and creation, then yes. But as long as the internet is free, so is the monster. Our monster is not behind a walled garden, our monster is constantly recreated with a great story, a camera and an internet connection. As long as that is true, and as long as we keep the conversation open, our monster is pretty bad ass. http://www.zadidiaz.com/home/2009/3/31/1st-annual-streamy-awards-once-in-a-lifetime.html And to think i almost posted something insulting! Zadi's post here changed my mind. Cheers! Sull [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] The 8 Level of Human Emergence
been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: To be a videoblogger, drink lots of water...
It really is a on one hand, but on the other hand sort of thing. We wanted democratization of media, and it looks like we got it...for good or ill. And if everyone made great vids easily, many of you would not have jobs. 2009/3/27 David Howell taoofda...@gmail.com The difference between what you made and what she made is like comparing Godard or Truffaut to Ed Wood or Uwe Boll. Your instructional video is a classic. The drool moment is what puts it in a class all unto itself. If her garbage is considered good, paint me an elitist I guess. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk qu...@... wrote: Agreed Miguel. Plus, she's dancing. Dancing is always good. I made an instructional video about personal videoblogging a few years ago as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DvHIxV2oQ0 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:47 AM, miglsd27 mig...@... wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I don;t know what to say. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82aZZraeSxk Videoblogging has come of age. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Actually I can´t see this as a bad thing... not my cup of tea or something I would look for, but why is this so bad? Have we become such elitists? When did we stop laughing at ourselves? Or should we make this a restrict group? Maybe I got you all wrong... Miguel. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: brightcove
If it's your content, you can at least call their offices directly and ask if you can recover it. The worst thing they could say is no. 2009/3/27 halley_hopkins halley.hopk...@gmail.com Thanks Irene. Sounds like I'm outta luck. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Irene Duma ir...@... wrote: Here is the last email I got from them.. This is the final notice that video players published using your free Brightcove Network account will be turned off and will cease to serve videos on January 31, 2009. The Brightcove Network was discontinued on December 17, 2008. As a convenience to Network publishers who may not have seen our prior communications about the Network discontinuation, we have continued to serve Brightcove Network players since then. These players will be turned off on January 31, 2009, and will no longer function. If you wish to discontinue the use of these players before that date, you may simply delete the players from your website. For more information about the discontinuation of the Brightcove Network, please read the FAQ on our site. If you would like to continue to use Brightcove to publish video, you will need to upgrade to a Brightcove 3 account. You can get more information about pricing and purchasing a Brightcove account by contacting our sales team. Please note: the discontinuation of the Brightcove Network does NOT affect Brightcove accounts that customers have paid to use. Best Regards, The Brightcove Team © 2009 Brightcove Inc. Terms Conditions PrivacyEmail Preferences Brightcove Inc. One Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142, USA Irene Duma Strange Duck Media Web Design and Creative Marketing Blogs and videos for authors, bands, filmmakers, artists and small businesses http://www.strangeduck.com St. John¹s, Newfoundland T 709-738-2242 C 709-699-8205 From: halley_hopkins halley.hopk...@... Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:53:57 - To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] brightcove I guess I live under a rock, but I just realized that the consumer upload/ public video serving for brightcove is officially off the air. Does anyone know if they created a backdoor to pull anything down that was previously available? Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] The Time is Now Return to Earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEaHyzbqTA 2009/3/27 Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.com It's hard to videoblog from an electricity-free indigenous forest. Try spreading your hippie agenda in more relevant forums. Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, windwaterclear windwatercl...@yahoo.comwindwaterclear%40yahoo.com wrote: The Time is Now Return to Earth Harmonic Emergence is about humans breaking free from the constraints of the big Machine, the Matrix or Babylon and learning to live in harmonious relation to all life, as opposed to the life of solo discord and aloneness that our current social paradigm promotes. Return to Earth is the choice to adopt a more natural, earth based, harmonious way of living so common to our indigenous ancestors where we are giving to and taking from in a symbiotic balanced exchange of energy. We will all return to earth in our own way and in our own time. Some will find themselves easing into it by spending more time living in the experience of raw nature whilst slipping out of their current life style. Others are ready now to make the decision to live an indigenous forest bound life all year round. You will find yours way as we find ours. We are inviting you all to begin the return to earth, to spend time exploring and living in and with the elements for as long as it feels right to you. And we invite you to do it in the company of people like you who know there is a better way. This 3 year project - Harmonic Emergence- Return to Earth consists of a series of events and experiences held in natural settings on both public and private land. The experiences are designed to reconnect us to our natural habitat and to encourage and teach people how to live with what nature offers us, not greedily or disprespectfully but generously and with reverence. March 20, 2009 to December 21,2012. Over this time we sense that people will experience a personal shift in how they want to live and will begin to explore alternatives such as nomadic forest living, homesteading, sharing their land with others or living on land that kind people have set aside as an offering to those less well off. Return to Earth Events - Just Camping Come join us for pot luck camping gatherings in the heart of the forest every third Saturday of the month. Help us to build larger gatherings... justover the rainbow to the reality of life H.E.R.E. on Earth now. I believe that now is the time for the emergence of all of us, we the people, one mankind who have chosen to acknowledge that we are in trouble and that our only solution is EACH OTHER. Pulling together we have a chance. Everything in my life has led me to this. Ma [Mother Earth] has sent me a guide and in this vision he said 'clamber on because I'm calling all the lost children home'. And I looked at Ma and she said 'It's OK.. Go ahead' and the croaker that was egging me on was 'The Big Green Frog'. The Time is Now Return to Earth Earth, Teach Me Earth teach me quiet ~ as the grasses are still with new light. Earth teach me suffering ~ as old stones suffer with memory. Earth teach me humility ~ as blossoms are humble with beginning. Earth teach me caring ~ as mothers nurture their young. Earth teach me courage ~ as the tree that stands alone. Earth teach me limitation ~ as the ant that crawls on the ground. Earth teach me freedom ~ as the eagle that soars in the sky. The Earth is our Teacher - An old Ute prayer harmonicemergence.org/ wind tribes.tribe.net/harmonicemergence Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] To be a videoblogger, drink lots of water...
Oh my. 2009/3/26 Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com I don;t know what to say. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82aZZraeSxk Videoblogging has come of age. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Web 2.0 Expo SF - Is Anyone Going?
I may be there as well, but also for the reasons that Schlomo mentions. 2009/3/25 schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com I'll be there for GroundReport.com but really, I dont think there will be much for videobloggers per se. I'm pretty excited that they will have a whole section dedicated to non-profits though. Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking AIM:schlomochat On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:45 PM, zennie62 zenni...@yahoo.comzennie62%40yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Is anyone attending Web 2.0 Expo? Is it worth it for video-bloggers to attend? It seems that the focus, well, it's hard to determine what the focus is this year -- the conference is all over the place. Thanks, Zennie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] just a test
Your message arrived! 2009/3/25 ultimco...@gmail.com ultimco...@gmail.com I think this list is not available in France now It's just a test peace, love and videoblogging for all Loiez -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Happy IE8 Day
About freaking time. 2009/3/20 Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org Well... as discussed on a local web professionals group that I'm part of in north Vancouver Island, we're not talking about forgetting IE7 and even IE6 just yet. They'll be around for a long time. In London, almost everyone I knew and worked for had XP and was willing to install FF and IE7. Here in the sticks, some people are still on Windows 98. They couldn't download new software even if they wanted to. One very talented local designer said, Two years ago we had to build a site that rendered well on Netscape 4 for Mac because that's what our client used. We just finished a project where the client was on IE 6 on an 800x600 monitor. Fair enough, in both cases, but hugely frustrating and quite limiting. That kind of compatibility requirement from clients is going to carry on for years. One of the things I've realised is that people with really old PCs running Windows 98 can still see YouTube, even though they can't see any type of video or video sharing site. Which just illustrates YouTube's genius in choosing to stick with their crappy Flash 7 codec. When all the other video sites were competing in quality and features, YouTube's priorities were maximum compatibility and not caring about copyright infringement. That's what made them win. They didn't listen to what everybody else was saying was important. Their site worked for 99% of users, as opposed to the 60 or 70 that could see Blip because they had to have Flash 8, 9 or 10 installed. And their site had the clips that people wanted to share - old TV clips and music videos. Like with the other discussion about the Flip, even though it was crappy quality, YouTube *just worked* for everyone, so everyone used it. R On 20-Mar-09, at 11:27 AM, Jay dedman wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: For all of you who design your own videoblogs, or design sites for other people, this is a red letter day. Internet Explorer with web standards. Many hours of wasted life reclaimed. Is IE8 really that make of a sea change. Is it like Firefox now? are we talking about just coding one page for all browsers? Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ Creative Mobile Filmmaking Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Roadtrip 2009
Nice! There's some beautiful vintage architecture in both towns, and I hope you can document some of that! 2009/3/17 josheklow joshek...@gmail.com Hey everybody. I'll be going on spring break this week in Alton, IL and Hannibal, MO, and I will again be documenting the whole thing on my videoblog,a href=http://www.newroachmotel.com/; newroachmotel.com/a. Also, you can follow me on Twitter, at a href= http://www.twitter.com/newroachmotel;twitter.com/newroachmotel/a. There, you can see pictures and even follow my GPS co-ordinates. It all starts Wednesday. Tell your friends! -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] A call for Art Vlogs and Art Vloggers
Happy Monday, everyone As I'm planning this nonprofit for online video art, I'm compiling the most exhaustive list possible of art vlogs. If any of you could reply with links of video that you consider arty, difficult to fund do to the nature of the programming or great vlog, but not targeted to a large audience, I would be most grateful. Thanks heaps. J P.S. Ping me if you have any questions about the org, or would like to participate in the planning process. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] it might seem things occasionally work without effort on one's part
Congrats! Without going through specifics, were you happy with the offer's value? 2009/3/11 liza jean dared...@gmail.com posted one vid to tubemogul.com and got a request for a price on the entire colleciton within minutes. of course, no response within minutes on our response. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Paypal Tipjar Addon for the JW flv video player
This is awesome. I just wish paypal would die, get overhauled or have a decent competitor. 2009/3/11 Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org This may be old news, but I haven't seen it mentioned here. There's a Paypal Tipjar plugin/addon for the JW flash video player that pops up a Donate window at the end of your videos. http://www.longtailvideo.com/addons/plugins/53/TipJar Rupert http://twittervlog.tv -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Media Buying Agencies with their head in the sand, vloggers suffer as a result
to not do something, as so many talented people are as broke as a joke due to this structural deficiency. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] How do you screen?
Since moving into a new space, I need to put together a good setup for screening videoblogs. So before I venture forth, I'd like to hear some answers to the following questions: 1. What player/aggregator do you use? 2. Do you watch on your computer, or connect to the TV? 3. What else do you do to enhance your screening environment? Videos showing setups most welcome! Thanks in advance. J -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Media Buying Agencies with their head in the sand, vloggers suffer as a resu
More later, but here's one thing I've learned in the past 3-5 years: Technologists are as horrible at carving out new markets for themselves as business with longtime profit models like Media Buying. Everybody has been running around for the past few years looking for the ideal case study in serialized online video content like obsequious MBA students, but nobody is willing to take a risk. It's pathetic. 2009/3/10 Steve Watkins st...@dvmachine.com I presume they'd have been all over the space like a rash if there were more success stories on which to build the dream? Im out of date, havent found an indy web show I wanted to watch for years, find few compelling UK podcasts or video shows. Itunes podcast directory totally dominated by mainstream media, many 'average' people at work are now watching video online, but most of it is from the big networks, or very random youtube stuff. Granted the Media Buying agencies are in trouble in future, as the nature of media shifts, the death of print media, shrinking audience figures, but Im not surprised they arent innovating in this direction, compelling evidence that there is lots of money to be made in future isnt there, so maybe they think it would just be a waste, they dont see it as their future saviour. They need things to be on a certain scale in order to sustain middlemen like them, and it aint happening fast, if at all. Need to hear more success stories, or more brutally honest accounts of those who have been in this space and seen the reality. But as so many people in that space rely on selling something, and hype, there hasnt been the level of openness about this stuff, much sense of reality. We are caught between stupidly optimistic numbers and hype (that is fast vanishing in the economic crisis), and negative naysayers like myself. We have heard from a few people who made a commercial success of their shows, some who are stuck or had their backing removed. We see a company fail or people fallout from time to time which sometimes yields interesting details, though often diputed ones, but I dont hear anything like enough to begin to form a proper opinion. I just take the lack of sucess stories as a general indicator that all is not well. Im hardly convinced any of the parts of the jigsaw are in place, apart from the technology. There are a lack of shows that talented people want to make, a lack of viewers clamouring for such projects to get funding, a lack of middlemen, and a lack of companies wanting to advertise their stuff in this space. Online video for social communication has flourished, mass media, tv networks etc seem to be getting somewhere, but commercialised indy net video is a fail - maybe its just hard to monetarise no matter the reduced costs of production new distribution methods. Maybe indy fails because it tries to play the same game as the big boys, a game that is only suitable for the big boys, they made it, they trained people what to expect. And there is an overabundance of distribution space, far far more channels capacity than there are humans to make compelling content or to watch on a scale that can make real money that others can take a cut of. For everyone else there is less commercialisation to be found, gotta be in it for the love and joy. Hooray for the 'folk' aspects of humans and the net, its a wonderful thing, and I see far more hope of compelling content coming from the free art side of things than the commercial. Its quite hilarious that in several ways, the net is not the perfect tool for capitalism, it lends itself to other forms of human cooperation. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@... wrote: But the ignorance of content creators is just part of the problem. Media Buying companies should have been reaching out to us long ago. Instead of clinging for dear life to lucrative-but-dwindling 30 second broadcast ads and print media buys, Media Buying agencies should have set a rate structure and a buying system for online video. Anyone in online video should know the names of these agencies like they would any other big-name service, but it seems they don't care to know us, and we don't care to know them. I always wondered why, and I think I got my answer this morning: they're in a bubble. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Videoformes Video Festival Opens This Week - vlogger Robert Croma featured
Hello again This week marks the beginning of the 24th Videoformes festival for Art Video and Digital Culture. The festival is run by group members Gabriel Soucheyere and Loiez Daniel in Clermont-Ferrand, France. Check out their site at: http://www.videoformes-fest.com/ The festival runs from 11-29 March, and if it's anything like what I witnessed last year, VIdeo Art and Digital Culture will take over on the streets of Clermont-Ferrand. Not only is there a main exhibition hall, but installations and events can be found throughout the city. And it's all excellent work. This year, videoblogging's own Robert Croma (http://robertcroma.com/) will be among the artists featured at Videoformes, and I know Loiez and Gabriel are very excited to have him there. Please give the Videoformes site a look. Gabriel and Loiez are true champions in the digital art space, and have worked for years to bring exposure and legitamacy to the digital artist. And congratualtions to our friends in France. Your hard work and advocacy is much appreciated! Cheers, Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Videoformes Video Festival Opens This Week - vlogger Robert Croma featured
And here's a direct link for the English version of the site, just in case you missed the Union Jack on the site: http://www.videoformes-fest-engl.com/ 2009/3/9 Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@gmail.com Hello again This week marks the beginning of the 24th Videoformes festival for Art Video and Digital Culture. The festival is run by group members Gabriel Soucheyere and Loiez Daniel in Clermont-Ferrand, France. Check out their site at: http://www.videoformes-fest.com/ The festival runs from 11-29 March, and if it's anything like what I witnessed last year, VIdeo Art and Digital Culture will take over on the streets of Clermont-Ferrand. Not only is there a main exhibition hall, but installations and events can be found throughout the city. And it's all excellent work. This year, videoblogging's own Robert Croma (http://robertcroma.com/) will be among the artists featured at Videoformes, and I know Loiez and Gabriel are very excited to have him there. Please give the Videoformes site a look. Gabriel and Loiez are true champions in the digital art space, and have worked for years to bring exposure and legitamacy to the digital artist. And congratualtions to our friends in France. Your hard work and advocacy is much appreciated! Cheers, Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Meet the elite!
Big pet peeve of mine when US orgs call themselves international in word, but not in deed. I'm willing to help in any way I can, and have lots of ex-US contacts, so anyone in charge please feel free to ping me. I understand that there's reps from international companies, but a big missing I see here is the independent creators from outside the US. They need empowering, too! In any case, I'm glad this is coming up. Commercial online video producers need legitimacy, best practice and labor standards in the face of traditional corporate hegemony. Traditional media execs needs to know that online shows are not cat pissing in toilet vids on YouTube. The community needs to develop guidelines, not a set of rules, that can help emerging talent create their own wins. And most importantly, commercial online video producers need to ensure that they're not relegated to being cheap labor just because they can do everything studios can with fewer people and less overhead. Cheaper is fine, exploitive is not. For these reasons, I really hope that the iawtv is a success. I think the thing we all need to realize now is that the medium is developing to the point that different genres are solidifying in online video content. This is a wonderful thing, and we need to ensure that we put the cheering on of people following their bliss at the forefront and put our I don't like this and our I wouldn't do it that way types of statements on the backburner. 2009/3/9 Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org Here's the kind of post that would have induced a feeding frenzy back in the good old bad old days here on the group. Like throwing an underling to the piranhas. In the spirit of that, I give you: The International Academy of Web Television http://www.iawtv.org/ Just launched last week, though no one mentioned it here. Members are voting on The Streamys awards which Josh Cohen announced a while ago here. The Academy was created by a cartel of the main web video news sites: Tilzy.tv, Tubefilter and NewTeeVee. They've published their inaugural membership list, featuring some of our friends from the group. Most of those you'd expect, who have popular shows, know a lot of people, do the social media thing well, and connect in real life in the right circles at meetups in NY, SF or LA (But not Scoble or Feldman or Ze Frank). Not just performers and show producers, but executives and talent agents. I'm not quite sure why the limit on numbers - other Academies have hundreds or thousands of members, and there are quite a few people I'd want to see on the list who aren't there, because they're either not commercial enough or not well enough connected - even though they have strong and interesting voices and ideas about web television and independent production. That said, I'm particularly glad to see WS in there. Although I clearly remember Quirk saying that awards were pretentious and pointless, and belong on the wall of real estate offices, so I hope you're not going to vote in the Streamys. (I nominated you). And so much for International - as far as I can see, the only even vaguely non-US representation there is Daily Motion's US representative and RDF television's US executive. Not even anybody from any other English speaking countries? That's just lazy - I wouldn't be so bothered by it if it wasn't called the International Academy of Web Television. If you're going to call it that, you've got to go out of your way to get some representation from other countries, on more than a token level. Anyway, now the media has an official organisation to talk to when they do stories about Web TV. So if the rest of us want to have a voice in media discussion of web video (its present state and its future), we'd better follow Jeffrey's lead and organize ourselves. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] 246 messages in February
My take on the why, in addition to what Rupert already said: 1. We're dispersing as our interests go into different directions, and the community seems loathe to create traditions and constants. With the exception of Vlog Europe, which is small, events like Vloggercon, Pixelodeon, the Vloggies/Winnies have lasted two years at the most. I see many things going local, with well-developed crowds developing in LA, SF, NY, DC, London, Amsterdam and Clermont-Ferrand, France, among others. I think there's a lot of good in all this online conversation fostering real-life activity, but the global aspect of this conversation suffers as a result. 2. YouTube and the lack of integration of YouTube's users into this list (for good or ill). 3. The door is cracked for people to take a stand for certain principles in this medium, but it certainly isn't as open as it was 3-5 years ago. I give tough love, not a scolding, when I say we all could do a better job organizing to stand up for what we believe in this space and providing opportunity for producers and artists that we believe in, and that perhaps some of these convictions are just not important enough to enough people. 4. The surge of this list was concurrent with the Web 2.0 surge, and teh economy has taken it's toll on both. I think there's many, many of us doing our best to make ends meet in this environment. 2009/3/5 Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org I've just looked at the number of messages being produced by the group. Last month - 246 - was the lowest number of messages since the first month of the group in June 2004. Conversation peaked a year later in June 2005 with 2974 messages (100 per day). Yet you'd imagine that there are more people posting web video than ever before - on Facebook and YouTube mostly. I'm less interested in what this means for the group - we're still producing 8 or 9 messages a day, and people are using Twitter too - and more in what this says about web video and how people perceive it. Is it so commonplace now that it's not worth talking about or getting excited about in a formal setting like a group? Is it so easy to make and upload videos that people don't need to ask for help? Are the corporate sharing sites so easy and dominating that people don't even think about controlling their own content and presentation of it? Is this a clear enough sign that the future is huge corporate superchannels with independent content again shut out? -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Re: [videoblogging] 246 messages in February
What's once fringe yet legitimately useful would naturally move towards the center. I think the technology has definitely moved to the center, but the following has not: 1. Support for masterful online content that will sustain the test of time, but has comparatively little commerical value 2. Disregard of independent content producers by established media and artistic institutions 3. A commitment to fair trade in independent video creation 4. Sane copyright 5. and much, much more 2009/3/5 Kevin Lim brainop...@gmail.com Well, isn't this a good thing? What's once fringe yet legitimately useful would naturally move towards the center. I remember writing my own RSS xml feed for media enclosures during the advent of podcasting. Now folks don't even need to know what a audio/video podcast is to start one. Same dilemma of us driving cars, but not understanding every part that goes into making it. It's all blackboxed now. Even though I only discovered this mailing list late into the game, I see this group as having more signal than noise. That filter is priceless. Kevin Lim Cyberculturalist http://theory.isthereason.com This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private email locator: ¥¨¥ ¸¨ ¡«µ¡¡«¨ « » » ® On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:58 PM, x...@xeni.net xeni%40xeni.net wrote: Hello -- This is my email autoresponder speaking. I'm traveling in some not-very-connected parts of Africa through March 16. I will be checking email and voicemail as often as circumstances permit, but responses will be much slower. If you need a fast response and you're contacting me about Boing Boing Video programming, please contact Derek Bledsoe (derekboingbo...@yahoo.comderekboingboing%40yahoo.com) and Jolon Bankey (jolo...@jolon.com jolonbb%40jolon.com). If your inquiry involves Boing Boing blog business, please contact David Pescovitz (da...@pesco.net david%40pesco.net). Blog post content pitches are always preferred via our web-based form, and I won't be blogging much on the road, other than what's on the road. If you need to reach my agent about a speaking engagement, TV or something like that, you'd want George Ruiz (gr...@icmtalent.comgruiz%40icmtalent.com) or Nick Khan (nk...@icmtalent.com NKhan%40icmtalent.com). And if this is personal, thank you for your message, and thank you for your patience. I wish you well from the road. XJ -- Xeni Jardin Host and Executive Producer, Boing Boing Video http://www.boingboing.net/boing-boing-video/ http://www.youtube.com/boingboingvideo Editor, Boing Boing Blog http://boingboing.net http://xeni.net http://twitter.com/xenijardin voicemail: 323-843-XENI (9364) skype: xenijardin, or 310-933-3075 -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: is Revver no more?
Be astounded no more, Gena. My experiene tells me that businesses having to do with effective external communications are oftentimes the absolute worst at logistics and...you guessed it...communications. 2009/1/31 Gena compumaven...@earthlink.net How hard is it to understand the concept of communicating with customers and clients? Part of the reason businesses are tanking is that whether brick and mortar or online merchants fail to inform about planned outages or changes in services. This is astounding that so many companies just don't get this simple fact. Businesses have relationships with people they call customers and clients. Communication is part of that relationship. Exchanging pay for services is another part. If you stop communicating with me and make it harder for me to know what is going on I will walk away. If you don't deliver the service you said you would I will take my money and find another place that will or do without. If I walk away with bad feelings I'm gonna tell someone and they tell two friends and so on... I shouldn't need access to the big boss to find out this kind of stuff. Headbanging stupid. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Kim Waldauer k...@... wrote: Does anyone know if Revver is completely out of business? I haven't been able to get onto their site for 2 days and no one over there is responding to emails. Kinda regretting I use them for my rss feed streaming videos on website. I mean used. I know there have been rumors floating around about thembut was wondering if anyone on this forum knew anything. -Kim http://www.cubenews1.com -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: SHVH - Ojai, CA
Will any portion of this be streamed, oh wise ones? 2009/1/28 Michael Verdi michaelve...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:27 PM, jimmyjay24 onarol...@mac.comonaroll44%40mac.com wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, jimmyjay24 onarol...@... wrote: why does Markus call it a dojo--is he a ninja... Makus calls it a dojo because it really is a dojo. Also Markus is a (code)ninja. :-) - Verdi -- http://michaelverdi.com -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Really Great Article on Media Trends and the Curation Economy
All of you folks out there wanting to make money off of web-based video, take a look at Steve Rosenbaum's article here. His #1 prediction is that the Curation Economy will boom in 2009. Who are the curators? Anyone. I just wish the money-holders weren't so damn slow on the uptake. Imagine what would be possible if poeple got this 3 or 4 years ago? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-rosenbaum/5-trends-that-will-change_b_155119.html -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Crowdsourced Footage for the Blessed Unrest film
Dear Phil You lost me at the identical canned messages you sent to both this and the Vlog Europe list. How about creating a relationship with us instead of spamming us. Best of luck, Jeffrey 2008/12/20 philonmessage philonmess...@yahoo.co.uk http://www.blessedunrestthefilm.com/about_the_film.html For the first time in history a film is about to jump from home page to the global stage with the click of a button. BLESSED UNREST: THE FILM is an unprecedented event that harbors the potential to launch an entirely new genre of filmmaking and create a revolutionary infrastructure and social technology for global dialogue, collaboration and cooperation in media. BLESSED UNREST: THE FILM is set to inaugurate a new era in citizen filmmaking, journalism and storytelling, lowering the barrier of entry into filmmaking, media tools and venues like never before. - created entirely on the film's website, synthesizing film submissions hailing from every corner of the globe into one central narrative with multiple threads to develop a plotline with characters we grow to know and who are irrevocably and forever changing everything about their world--and ours. The site enables users to partake in collaborative editing in micro-communities devoted to certain themes set up by our directorial and editorial team. With the full resolution source tagging married to this collaborative editing interface, the film studio is- certainly sounds like a whole new approach, updates by email from the site. regards Phil. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Web show gets picks up
This is encouraging, and is just the model traditional media outlets should go for. The whole economy of networks paying for pilots for shows is no longer working, and I believe the model Felicia uses will be commonplace in the future. Creators get rights, traditional media outlets save their massive pilot budget. Adapt or die. 2008/11/25 Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those making online video shows, this seems to be the way to make creativity pay: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081124-popular-youtube-series-the-guild-finds-home-with-microsoft.html Felicia Day is surprisingly petite in person, but she makes up for it in force of personality. Appearing in such geeky fare as Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog, and of course her own YouTube series, The Guild, she enjoys quite a following among gamers. Now it appears that the size of her audience has drawn the attention of Microsoft, as the company just picked up the second season of The Guild for its online video service. Makes sense. you create the show and gather an audience on your own dime (blood/sweat/tears). THEN someone will come along and offer you a deal. This example though also shows that it probably helps to be a known personality. What really caught my eye about this post is this: The best part of the deal for Day is that she retains her rights to the show, which means any future deals, including online, television, or even a movie, will be controlled by her. I'm glad creators are seeming to know that control over the content and rights is everything. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
They don't have an obligation to independents at all, but they're being massively stupid for missing out on opportunites to take on serialized content that has establushed communities that are alpha-recommending products and services left and right. Networks miss out, content creators miss out, time is wasted, common sense goes by the wayside. Both sides are hurting in their own ways with inprecedented losses and/or difficulty finding revanue. Frustrating to the max, considering it doesn't have to be like this. Being compared to cat pissing on toilet videomakers is ego-related, but it certainly doesn't help the situation to be seen by so-called tastemakers this way. So yeah, they don't owe us anything, but it doesn't make the siutation any less absurd. A guy from the Annenberg/USC presented here yesterday, and says the way hi surveys are going, it seems that people will save TV for large events like the opening ceremony of the Olympics and other things that people want to see in full view, everything else is fair game to be mobilized and will be increasigly viewed that way. Teenagers are already watching full feature films on iphones willingly and happily. 2008/11/14 Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] We, what time are you meeting??? On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Jacek Artymiak [EMAIL PROTECTED]jacekartymiak%40gmail.com wrote: But who says the networks have any obligation to hire the independents? On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com wrote: Because people who deserve to be paid well for their excellent work are not getting their due. That is all. -Original Message- From: @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] sulleleven%40gmail.comsulleleven% 40gmail.com snip Why do they NEED TO GET IT? Why do we feel like we NEED THEM TO GET IT? Co-Existing not feasible? Is this about getting picked up by the old suits or is this about Independents being able to leverage technology to publish their works and fins a market? -- Jacek Artymiak http://devGuide.net vi(1) Tips: Essential vi/vim Editor Skills, 1st ed. http://www.devguide.net/books/vitips1 devGuide.tv http://devguide.tv -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff interview Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC. These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know idea what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look. I am so pissed off right now. Discuss. -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up. 2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing I ever hear about TV executives' approach to the internet ever gives me any hope. Apparently, none of them ever use the internet. And if they do, they're so busy being threatened that they adopt a confused and contemptuous attitude before they've even clicked on the first video. I read two great posts by Steve Bowbrick yesterday about trying to change this mindset at the BBC. He's blogger in residence for six months at the BBC. Which is a great idea - someone from outside to blog about life inside. First, his thoughts about how and why they need to move on from the broadcast mindset. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/11/ moving_on_from_the_broadcast_e.html But more importantly for you to read out there in hell, Jeffrey: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowbrick/2958508580/ A whiteboard image of the obstacles to sharing with typical reactions in quotes just like those you just repeated from Silverman. The obstacles are grouped under Rights; Culture; Expectations; Competitive Instincts; Regulation. The quotes associated with the obstacles are: Rights: Impossible to untangle Expectations: It'll just be a bunch of pornographers Culture: We don't do that sort of thing Competitive Instincts: We compete in primetime - why should we cooperate here Regulation: They'll never let us do that Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 13-Nov-08, at 5:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comwrote: They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by independent producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want cat pissing in toilet videos associated with our brand. and only we can do something like heroes. -Original Message- From: Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:52:58 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Cc: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of understanding? Jay On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com wrote: I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff interview Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC. These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know idea what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look. I am so pissed off right now. Discuss. -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
We tried. But Silverman was surrounded by staff the moment he walked off stage. Strong bubble. 2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] They come from a different culture, and are almost certainly entirely surrounded by yes men and people who are similarly uninformed. The good thing about physical conferences is that you're sharing the same room. You've got nothing to lose by fighting to get to the front and telling them. On 13-Nov-08, at 6:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up. 2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org Nothing I ever hear about TV executives' approach to the internet ever gives me any hope. Apparently, none of them ever use the internet. And if they do, they're so busy being threatened that they adopt a confused and contemptuous attitude before they've even clicked on the first video. I read two great posts by Steve Bowbrick yesterday about trying to change this mindset at the BBC. He's blogger in residence for six months at the BBC. Which is a great idea - someone from outside to blog about life inside. First, his thoughts about how and why they need to move on from the broadcast mindset. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/11/ moving_on_from_the_broadcast_e.html But more importantly for you to read out there in hell, Jeffrey: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowbrick/2958508580/ A whiteboard image of the obstacles to sharing with typical reactions in quotes just like those you just repeated from Silverman. The obstacles are grouped under Rights; Culture; Expectations; Competitive Instincts; Regulation. The quotes associated with the obstacles are: Rights: Impossible to untangle Expectations: It'll just be a bunch of pornographers Culture: We don't do that sort of thing Competitive Instincts: We compete in primetime - why should we cooperate here Regulation: They'll never let us do that Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 13-Nov-08, at 5:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comwrote: They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by independent producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want cat pissing in toilet videos associated with our brand. and only we can do something like heroes. -Original Message- From: Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.comjay.dedman% 40gmail.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:52:58 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com Cc: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of understanding? Jay On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor% 40gmail.com wrote: I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff interview Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC. These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know idea what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look. I am so pissed off right now. Discuss. -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor% 40gmail.com http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
Sidenote on the Beeb: French Saunders had their last performance a few nights ago. Among the many reasons they cited for ending their partnership was increasing frustration with the BBC's lack of courage and freedom, going for safe populist comedy programming in answer to competition from satellite channels. 2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] As Bowbrick says, The broadcast era is coming to an end. The network era is well under way. Only openness can keep the BBC relevant through the transition. Their loss. On 13-Nov-08, at 7:06 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: We tried. But Silverman was surrounded by staff the moment he walked off stage. Strong bubble. 2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org They come from a different culture, and are almost certainly entirely surrounded by yes men and people who are similarly uninformed. The good thing about physical conferences is that you're sharing the same room. You've got nothing to lose by fighting to get to the front and telling them. On 13-Nov-08, at 6:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up. 2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.orgrupert% 40fatgirlinohio.org Nothing I ever hear about TV executives' approach to the internet ever gives me any hope. Apparently, none of them ever use the internet. And if they do, they're so busy being threatened that they adopt a confused and contemptuous attitude before they've even clicked on the first video. I read two great posts by Steve Bowbrick yesterday about trying to change this mindset at the BBC. He's blogger in residence for six months at the BBC. Which is a great idea - someone from outside to blog about life inside. First, his thoughts about how and why they need to move on from the broadcast mindset. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/11/ moving_on_from_the_broadcast_e.html But more importantly for you to read out there in hell, Jeffrey: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowbrick/2958508580/ A whiteboard image of the obstacles to sharing with typical reactions in quotes just like those you just repeated from Silverman. The obstacles are grouped under Rights; Culture; Expectations; Competitive Instincts; Regulation. The quotes associated with the obstacles are: Rights: Impossible to untangle Expectations: It'll just be a bunch of pornographers Culture: We don't do that sort of thing Competitive Instincts: We compete in primetime - why should we cooperate here Regulation: They'll never let us do that Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 13-Nov-08, at 5:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor% 40gmail.com thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comwrote: They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by independent producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want cat pissing in toilet videos associated with our brand. and only we can do something like heroes. -Original Message- From: Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.comjay.dedman% 40gmail.comjay.dedman% 40gmail.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:52:58 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com Cc: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of understanding? Jay On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor% 40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor% 40gmail.com wrote: I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff interview Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC. These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know idea what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look. I am so pissed off right now. Discuss. -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor% 40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor
Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
No, they don't. Silverman explicitly stated he wouldn't. I hope he saw me *facepalm*, because it was the only communication I could get in. 2008/11/13 @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd venture to say that NBC could start a digital studio AND cut a deal with the well-established net shows, if they wanted to. And maybe they do. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comwrote: It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bid for Placement on YouTube
No no no no no. No. Nobody makes money on this shit except google. Vloggers will make peanuts, and traditional clients aren't up to spending money on such a risky spend. This is the devaluation of content that I fear may be the ass end of the democratization of media. I guess freedom ain't free. Serial and artistic content does NOT belong on YouTube. They have put the creator last from the beginning. 2008/11/13 liza jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] we figured this was coming. first two times youtube deleted us it was after we got a million channel views. seemed we were required to upgrade somehow to continue being seen. so, i wonder if my money is good with them. wonder if i am protected from being deleted. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know many of you would be opposed to buying ads to get your content noticed, but what makes this auction process different? You are effectively buying an ad. I know Gary V has purchased google adwords to promote some of his content, depending on his motive buying placement on YouTube might also make sense. If you have a crappy video, no amount of money will get people to watch it. Buying an ad can be the only option for a great video to escape obscurity. As for Brooks' comment re: ignoring ads, someone must click on them because they pay me quite nicely. This will be no different. Some people will ignore promoted videos, some people won't. Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com On Nov 12, 2008 4:44 PM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point. but there must be some value in featured spots. maybe they have some metrics to share. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My eyes automatically... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Mobuzz.tv in trouble - You can help save European-made independent media
I just tested it, and it took me two clicks, but here's the direct paypal link (in Spanish, but your login will take you to your language/country: https://www.paypal.com/es/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=lj-bImm1M_cuvP-spPP1BMXtuKrdGhyauoWgcnhgb0gj-Xcv-NRbwQIIOeadispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f38432c9462fe7313791b4c12e10393700300c8820f2d2c73 2008/11/4 liza jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] now if there were just a nice active link such that with a few clicks i could do this good deed . . . -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: VloMo08 - Videoblogging Month 2008
Twitter will not relay messages to the board. You have to post here. 2008/10/30 Matthew Milam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would a message that I send through Twitter be on this board? Or would I still have to post the message in the group first? Matthew From: Frank Sinton Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:25 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: VloMo08 - Videoblogging Month 2008 Hi all - we just had a complete relaunch, and are working through a bunch of issues, mainly to do with the logged in version of the site. We should have all issues resolved by EOD tomorrow. Apologies for those who are trying to join and can't. Also, we did switch over from username to email for login. Both should work, though, so am checking into that too. On the plus side - the channel now has Twitter integration, so it will show any Tweets with vlomo08 in it. Since a lot of discussions are happening at Twitter, we thought it would be more useful to leverage this instead of launching another, closed discussion board... Regards, Frank http://www.mefeedia.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Cheryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mefeedia won't even let me log in. I've only ever logged in with my username. Now it insists on an email address. OK. So I tried all three email addresses I might possibly have signed up with. I know my password. Nothing. It doesn't accept any of them. Yes I could create a new account. But the old one already has my feeds associated with it, and I already have friends assigned. Really, I'm trying to participate, honest. Mefeedia isn't letting me. Maybe by November it will let me in? Cheryl --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: VloMo-istas, please join the fun now by adding your feed to the channel here: http://www.mefeedia.com/channels/vlomo08 Note the Twitter integration and cool Watch in Theater View option. Further developments coming, particularly the limiting of posts to just those published during November. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 29-Oct-08, at 11:08 AM, Rupert wrote: All right, then. 24 hours later and a massive 21 votes have been cast. The most popular shorthand name / tag - though with only 33% - is: VloMo08 A suitably brief tag for our Twitterholic world. So it's VloMo - or Videoblogging Month. Or Vlogging Month, if you can bring yourself to say that. Whatever, call it what you want when you describe it. But the tag and the channel and all official things will be in the form VloMo08. As I've already said, we will *not* be using Ning this year. We'll be using Mefeedia, which will be much better for watching, aggregating, commenting and archiving. We'll have a channel at http://mefeedia.com/channels/vlomo08 And you'll be able to put the feed for that channel into Miro or iTunes or whatever reader or aggregator you choose. Mefeedia are sorting this, adding some extra features just for us. For free, in the middle of a busy time for them (they've just relaunched the site), so please be patient. In the next couple of days, you'll be able to go to the channel and add your feed. I'll post here and on Twitter as soon as it's fully up and running. Hurray! If you're thinking about joining in and worried about the commitment, don't fret it. Allow yourself half an hour per day and just post some video - any video, however small, on any account. Doesn't have to be what you usually do, or up to any high production standards. Join in, it'll make the watching more fun, too. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: VloMo08 - Videoblogging Month 2008
The rules are: :) 2008/10/30 Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/10/30 Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] kitykity%40gmail.com: does it have to be video shot that day? I have such a huge backlog of videos... especially after Budapest... and I'm going to be on vacation for a week out of this month where I won't have Internet access... I hope it doesn't have to be shot that day. I'm planning on having a go but the only way I can make it is if I don't have to spend time actually shooting every day. As far as I understand it, none of the other such challenges (videoblogging week, semanal, etc.) have required same day shoot and post. Anyone else? Frank. -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Nablopomo or Navlopomo??? whats going on
Neither. There's a big world out there beyond the US. :) 2008/10/29 John Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nablopomo or Navlopomo which one is the one JohnDkar www.youtube.com/johndkar [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] This is kind of kick ass
Methinks David is correct, considering this person's other page, marquee mark. http://www.gogle.com/marqueemark.html 2008/10/29 Adam Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very cool. I checked out some of his others too, Four weddings and a Funeral was an interesting experiment. Adam W. Warner http://indielab.org http://wordpressmodder.org From: Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com To: Videobloggers videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:19:25 AM Subject: [videoblogging] This is kind of kick ass http://www.gooo oogl e.com/20y. html I would love to know how this is done. -- http://jaydedman. com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu
It's not personal, but anybody that drops lucrative demographic audiences Epic Fu's and shows with high publicity value like Wine Library TV needs to have both their head and their strategy examined. I haven't fully flushed this out in my brain, but I just wonder if the media buyers (on the client and agency side) are thinking that traditional media buys is some sort of flight to quality in the same sense that investors are doing a flight to quality with more traditional meat-and-potatoes stocks and commodities like gold. I'd like to hear what everyone else has to think about this (my instinct is that media buyers need the direct relationships and alpha consumer recommendations that are part and parcel of online video now more than ever), and I'll come back with more developed thoughts later. 2008/10/27 Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just saw this now, probably a bit of old news for some, but sad nonethelessSteve and Zadi are great people and I am sure this is a kick in the gut in many ways... http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/27/revision3-cuts-back-on-shows-and- staff/ Hopfully Steve and Zadi knew about this before hand and were making some deals.. Heath http://batmangeek.com -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: It's that time again... NaVloPoMo 2008
In. And I just got a piece of news that could make it verry interesting. I should be able to divulge by then. 2008/10/24 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] YA On 24-Oct-08, at 12:52 PM, mikeysizemore wrote: Hey Rupert, Yeah I'm in. Delurking for this one. I think I have as much fun reading the stuff on this mailing list as I do watching the content you all produce. Roll on November :) Mike --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last year, we had around 60 people signed up, and around 30-40 people posted videos regularly. By the end of the month, we'd made over 1000 videos. It was a last minute suggestion, that seemed like insanity, but it turned out to be an incredible month of inspired collaborative fun. Not everybody managed all 30 days - I did 23, I think - but it didn't matter. We all committed to the intention, and then watched each other's videos every day, commented and made video responses. One video per day, every day in November... that's all you have to do :) It can be any type of video. Nothing is too small. In fact, the key is to stop yourself from being too ambitious. Details to follow of how we're setting it up at Mefeedia. NOW - WHO'S IN? Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: In search of pioneering v-loggers!
Kinda like Edina Monsoon, but no using/drinking. 2008/10/21 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] you are our PR :D On 21-Oct-08, at 9:16 AM, Irina wrote: ergo, i am the self-appointed spokesperson for the vlogosphere LOL i dont mind pointing out amazing ppl :) On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: Yeah, I didn't mean to sound negative. The problem with asking people to contact you is that a lot of the people you need to speak to are quite modest, and wouldn't necessarily identify themselves as pioneers, or wouldn't answer a call for them to email you saying I'm a pioneer! - so the responses you get will be weighted towards people who are more comfortable with self-promotion. The idea of pioneers is caught up with some kind of idea of hierarchy, or an in-crowd, something that a lot of people here have tried to resist. Which is maybe why Jay Dedman, who was central to this group, said 'fuck pioneers' the other day. Quite rightly, he doesn't want to be seen as any more important, valid or influential than anybody else. One of the best things that happened to open it all up was the mass migration of people to Twitter and their willingness to follow and be followed by lots of different people. The social and content stuff happens on Twitter, while the technical, marketing and philosophical discussions happen here. So I highly recommend researching it yourself via the archives of this group. The group's wiki also has a historical timeline of who did what, when which is worth checking out, but is also skewed towards those who have entered their own details. http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/ Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 21-Oct-08, at 8:45 AM, Irina wrote: i am very supportive of people's projects i will help you identify people if you'd like to interview certain ones just email me offline :) irina On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard%40richardshow.org richard% 40richardshow.org wrote: Well, for me, I would have to say my wife is the only pioneer in my life On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org rupert% 40fatgirlinohio.orgrupert% 40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: Was that a request? On 20-Oct-08, at 2:59 PM, Mike Moon wrote: This thread made me laugh... not because of what it's asking for, but it reminded me of last weekends Vlog Flash Meeting. jaydedman: fuck pioneers Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Syd, No link to the video. If I were you, I'd contact and ask people individually. You can find them quite easily. They have videoblogs :) Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-08, at 12:25 PM, sydney idunno wrote: Hello all. I'm looking for vloggers who were active members of this group during the years 2004 to 2006. I'm embarking on an ambitious project that will hopefully end up being a vlogumentary about vlogging and I'd like to be about, for, and by vloggers. I've been vlogging for about two years now. I'm a teacher and I'm fascinated by the future ramifications of vlogging and online communities that use vlogs as their primary method of communication. Please let me know if you're interested in being interviewed or if you have resources you can steer me toward...that would be great. Here's a video I've put out to some of the sites I'm a part of. Calling all Vlogging Pioneers! Take care! Syd __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Richard (Show) Hall http://richardshow.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] 1st Vlog Global Videoconference
Hi everyone Vlog Europe just sent out invites for 25 Vloggers to join the 1st ever Vlog Global Videoconference/Flashmeeting. We could only do 25 due to Flashmeeting's limits, but we will be streaming to a site equipped with chat. There was no criteria for the supertough task of selecting the 25 vloggers on the Flashmeeting beyond diversity. No elitism, no favorites, just diversity. We have encouraged invitees to have people in their town all join together to share one of the 25 slots if possible. Text of the e-mail we sent to the invitees is below, which has info on time, content, etc. We'll send links for hte stream as soon as we have them, and hope as many people as possible can participate and watch. Cheers, Jeffrey and the Vlog Europeans = Hi. You are one of 25 vloggers throughout the globe invited to participate the 1st ever Vlog Global teleconference. We'd love for you to be there, and we hope you all can make this work so we can make it an annual *no-frills, no-cost, no bullshit Videoblogging Event*. *When: Saturday 18 October @ 9 AM Los Angeles, Noon in New York, 5 PM in London, 6 PM in Budapest, Midnight Sunday in Shanghai and 2 AM Sunday in Sydney* The Flashmeeting will be for 2.5 hours, 3 hours maximum. *Why*: The organizers of Vlog Europe are putting this together in order to *stand up for the Vlogging Sensibility* and *keep up the momentum of the Videoblogging community* worldwide. With no Vloggercamp, Vloggercon, etc. happening this year, we want to ensure that we are all keeping up with each other and are aware of what we are up to and what we all stand for. *Who:* The organizers of Vlog Europe are inviting *25 videobloggers from every corner of the earth* to participate in this call. We wish we could invite more, but Flashmeeting can only take 25 participants. *We will be streaming* the Flashmeeting to a streaming video site that has chat capability in order to ensure as many people can be in on the action as possible. * What*: *Each participant has the floor for two minutes to say or do whatever she or he wants. *If we have time for discussion, we'll do it, but Vlog Europe will moderate the slots and ensure everyone gets a chance to say whatever it is they want to say. No restrictions. We just want to see you or whatever of you you want us to see. Tell us what you're up to. Feed a video that you are proud of into the Flashmeeting. Whatever. It's your two minutes. *Where:* We will send you a link to the flashmeeting when you confirm your participation. *What You Need to Do:* 1. *RSVP by replying to this e-mail. *Please do this as soon as you can so we can give your slot to someone else if you cannot attend. October 15 is the deadline, but we'd really appreciate it if you'd let us know ASAP. 2. *Invite Vloggers in your town to share your slot. *We'd love to have as many people as possible in the flashmeeting itself, and it's always fun to hand with other vloggers. And that's it! We really really really hope you can attend. Really. Cheers, The Vlog Europeans [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Making Vlog Europe 2008 Vlog GLobal
Well, we've run into a problem...a good sort of problem. I was worried that events were not getting off the ground for vloggers for the boring old can't be arsed to do it reasons, but I think the truth of the matter is far more encouraging: People are just damn busy doing great things, and or/are sacrificing income for the sake of their projects for various reasons. With the above in mind, I'm working with a few people to find a way to *make a small portion of Vlog Europe Vlog Global* via Flashmeeting or some other means that can have the most people participate simultaneously. Just because we are all busily trying to make things work does not mean we can't come together and talk about what we're up to, what we sand for and what we're hoping and planning. Details are sketchy at the moment, but I am certain that we'll be doing whatever we do for a couple of hours on Saturday 18 October. Look for more information laterperhaps later today (Monday). Jeffrey 2008/9/29 Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] i am so jealous of those going to vlog europe On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Just to keep the list updated on Vlog Europe. Please contact me or Raymond if you have any questions, and sign on the Wiki if you can come! Cheers, Jeffrey -- Forwarded message -- From: Raymond M. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/9/2 Subject: [vlogeurope] VlogEurope 2008 practical info To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, Here is some practical information for VlogEurope 2008 which takes place in Budapest, October 18th-19th 2008. == What is VlogEurope? == VlogEurope is a yearly meeting of videobloggers and vlog-interested from Europe and beyond. It took place first time in September 2005 in Amsterdam, and has since taken place twice - in 2006 (Milan) and 2007 (Heidelberg). This year, VlogEurope takes to Hungary and Budapest which is a dynamic central European city. As in earlier years, a central part of VlogEurope is to explore the city/area around it, and we got a few surprises for participants up the sleeve :) == Participation Fee== Thanks to generous sponsorships, VlogEurope is a free event to attend. == Transportation == As we have earlier discussed on this mailinglist, an idea this year is to book a bus to travel from France towards Hungary. This, however, turned out to be far too expensive so we are currently thinking of renting a few vans/larger cars. These vans (2 or 3?) would then departure from different destinations and make it towards Budapest, and back. Loiez Deniel has more information about this, but a suggestion put forward is to have one van driving from Amsterdam, and another from Lyon. Comments? == Accommodation == We have found a loft apartment in Budapest that has 18 beds divided into three rooms. This will be the VlogEurope HQ during this weekend Here you can read more about the space: http://www.lofthostel.hu/ We have reserved the 18 beds for the night of October 17th and 18th. This means that we check in on friday 17th and check out again on Sunday 19th. The cost of these 18 beds is covered with a surplus from VlogEurope budget last year, thanks to the sponsors BlogTV, Xacti, Blip.tv and TechSmith. This means that in addition to there being no participation fee for VlogEurope, we can maybe give you free accommodation as well! :) Q: Who will be assigned these 18 beds? A: It is a mixture of first come - first served and a priority being given to students or others of low income. If you already signed up at the wiki ( http://vlogeurope.com/wiki/index.php?title=2008_Participants ) - great :) Q: How do I actually sign up? A: Send an e-mail to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q: What if I want to arrive earlier and/or stay later at this same place? A: Please send an email to Katie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] saying you are part of VlogEurope, and would like an extended stay. The max cost (4-bed dorm) is 4500 Hungarian Forints which equals about 19. You can see the prices here: http://www.lofthostel.hu/booking.html . Note: You will pay for your additional nights while in Budapest - everything at LoftHouse is done in cash. Also please make sure that you list your arrival and departure days here: http://vlogeurope.com/wiki/index.php?title=2008_Participants VlogEurope 2008 is approaching fast! I am looking forward to meeting you all and exploring Budapest with you while talking about all things vlog-related. Got any questions? Please just reply to this message or e-mail me directly Best, Raymond M. Kristiansen co-organizer VlogEurope www.vlogeurope.com - website will be updated soon :) -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text
[videoblogging] Vlog Europe - Call For Participants - October 18-19 in Budapest
Hi everyone - We're a little under one month out from the 4th Vlog Europe in Budapest on October 18-19, and I'm sending this note out to let you know we'd love for you to come. And if you know of anyone who would be interested in coming, please forward this mail or have them contact me for details. We'd be especially grateful if anyone has any contacts in Hungary. This year, we've rented out the entire Loft Hostel in Budapest ( http://lofthostel.hu), and *the stay will be free *for up to 18 people. We have several who have opted to stay off-site, so there are several slots available in the hostel and things can be kept quite cheap and cheerful for those who need to do so. Instead of formal sessions this year, we've decided to have a two-day free flow Vlog-In in which the participants create the flow and content of the weekend moment by moment. The hostel has large common spaces including a large-screen television for screenings, making this the perfect environment for this style of meetup. Every year has been heaps of fun, and we're always looking to grow and diversify. Drop me ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) an e-mail if you have any questions, and consult http://vloguerope.com for the latest news. We look forward to seeing you there. Cheers, Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Fwd: [vlogeurope] VlogEurope 2008 practical info
Just to keep the list updated on Vlog Europe. Please contact me or Raymond if you have any questions, and sign on the Wiki if you can come! Cheers, Jeffrey -- Forwarded message -- From: Raymond M. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/9/2 Subject: [vlogeurope] VlogEurope 2008 practical info To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, Here is some practical information for VlogEurope 2008 which takes place in Budapest, October 18th-19th 2008. == What is VlogEurope? == VlogEurope is a yearly meeting of videobloggers and vlog-interested from Europe and beyond. It took place first time in September 2005 in Amsterdam, and has since taken place twice - in 2006 (Milan) and 2007 (Heidelberg). This year, VlogEurope takes to Hungary and Budapest which is a dynamic central European city. As in earlier years, a central part of VlogEurope is to explore the city/area around it, and we got a few surprises for participants up the sleeve :) == Participation Fee== Thanks to generous sponsorships, VlogEurope is a free event to attend. == Transportation == As we have earlier discussed on this mailinglist, an idea this year is to book a bus to travel from France towards Hungary. This, however, turned out to be far too expensive so we are currently thinking of renting a few vans/larger cars. These vans (2 or 3?) would then departure from different destinations and make it towards Budapest, and back. Loiez Deniel has more information about this, but a suggestion put forward is to have one van driving from Amsterdam, and another from Lyon. Comments? == Accommodation == We have found a loft apartment in Budapest that has 18 beds divided into three rooms. This will be the VlogEurope HQ during this weekend Here you can read more about the space: http://www.lofthostel.hu/ We have reserved the 18 beds for the night of October 17th and 18th. This means that we check in on friday 17th and check out again on Sunday 19th. The cost of these 18 beds is covered with a surplus from VlogEurope budget last year, thanks to the sponsors BlogTV, Xacti, Blip.tv and TechSmith. This means that in addition to there being no participation fee for VlogEurope, we can maybe give you free accommodation as well! :) Q: Who will be assigned these 18 beds? A: It is a mixture of first come - first served and a priority being given to students or others of low income. If you already signed up at the wiki ( http://vlogeurope.com/wiki/index.php?title=2008_Participants ) - great :) Q: How do I actually sign up? A: Send an e-mail to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q: What if I want to arrive earlier and/or stay later at this same place? A: Please send an email to Katie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] saying you are part of VlogEurope, and would like an extended stay. The max cost (4-bed dorm) is 4500 Hungarian Forints which equals about 19. You can see the prices here: http://www.lofthostel.hu/booking.html . Note: You will pay for your additional nights while in Budapest - everything at LoftHouse is done in cash. Also please make sure that you list your arrival and departure days here: http://vlogeurope.com/wiki/index.php?title=2008_Participants VlogEurope 2008 is approaching fast! I am looking forward to meeting you all and exploring Budapest with you while talking about all things vlog-related. Got any questions? Please just reply to this message or e-mail me directly Best, Raymond M. Kristiansen co-organizer VlogEurope www.vlogeurope.com - website will be updated soon :) -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Autoportrait à deux mains
Masterful stuff. Loiez is the vlogosphere's French treasure, with an enviable body of work. Watch all of it. 2008/8/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanted to bring your attention to this interesting collaborative project by Loiez. He's often generous here with his links to others. And I really like this one of his. I won't explain it, because I enjoyed watching it once without knowing what it was about, and then watching it again having read the text at the end. If you don't speak French, there's a translation of the text in the comments section. Read it after watching, then watch again for a different experience. It's 7 and a half minutes, so you'll need to find a quiet 15 minutes to watch it twice. http://xi-vlog.loiez.org/2008/08/oz_s_video_psychoanalysis.php Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Goes Underground
He's walking the fine line, imo. He was exhibiting extreme behaviour in order to elicit a violent response. In many jurisdiction, what he did would be seen as sexual assault. But I think even this response it too violent. 2008/8/7 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know. Discussing trolling in this thread makes it sound like John's a troll - and I don't think this video is trolling. It's an ad hominem polemic, sure - and one that steps way over the line that I would draw if I were making a video about something like this. And it started a discussion, in which he has been clear and reasoned in text. I hate trolling and flaming, but this is slightly different I think. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 7-Aug-08, at 12:42 PM, Heath wrote: The problem Jay, is that's it's NOT just about leaving comments that are mean or untruecalling someone and threathing them, making death threats, ruining your creditthose are things people just dont get over it Those are crimal acts. Words DO hurt, it's been proven time and time again, they have power and not just the power you allow them to have. And I know that you know that Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well. Kathy Sierra's stalkertrolls called it art. That is all. Really good article on Trolls in the NYTimes magazine last week: http://bit.ly/2r7sUf Really good read. I know I've allowed trolls to painfully get to me before. Interesting how this one guy explains where he gets his power: Fortuny proceeded to demonstrate his personal cure for trolling, the Theory of the Green Hair. You have green hair, he told me. Did you know that? No, I said. Why not? I look in the mirror. I see my hair is black. That's uh, interesting. I guess you understand that you have green hair about as well as you understand that you're a terrible reporter. What do you mean? What did I do? That's a very interesting reaction, Fortuny said. Why didn't you get so defensive when I said you had green hair? If I were certain that I wasn't a terrible reporter, he explained, I would have laughed the suggestion off just as easily. The willingness of trolling victims to be hurt by words, he argued, makes them complicit, and trolling will end as soon as we all get over it. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Goes Underground
But I think even this response is* too violent. As much as I want to get this discussion out of our systems, I don't want to give it more attention than it deserves. The implications for web video makers as the culture shifts is far more important than any inflammatory content. Sorry about the typo. 2008/8/7 Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] He's walking the fine line, imo. He was exhibiting extreme behaviour in order to elicit a violent response. In many jurisdiction, what he did would be seen as sexual assault. But I think even this response it too violent. 2008/8/7 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know. Discussing trolling in this thread makes it sound like John's a troll - and I don't think this video is trolling. It's an ad hominem polemic, sure - and one that steps way over the line that I would draw if I were making a video about something like this. And it started a discussion, in which he has been clear and reasoned in text. I hate trolling and flaming, but this is slightly different I think. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 7-Aug-08, at 12:42 PM, Heath wrote: The problem Jay, is that's it's NOT just about leaving comments that are mean or untruecalling someone and threathing them, making death threats, ruining your creditthose are things people just dont get over it Those are crimal acts. Words DO hurt, it's been proven time and time again, they have power and not just the power you allow them to have. And I know that you know that Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well. Kathy Sierra's stalkertrolls called it art. That is all. Really good article on Trolls in the NYTimes magazine last week: http://bit.ly/2r7sUf Really good read. I know I've allowed trolls to painfully get to me before. Interesting how this one guy explains where he gets his power: Fortuny proceeded to demonstrate his personal cure for trolling, the Theory of the Green Hair. You have green hair, he told me. Did you know that? No, I said. Why not? I look in the mirror. I see my hair is black. That's uh, interesting. I guess you understand that you have green hair about as well as you understand that you're a terrible reporter. What do you mean? What did I do? That's a very interesting reaction, Fortuny said. Why didn't you get so defensive when I said you had green hair? If I were certain that I wasn't a terrible reporter, he explained, I would have laughed the suggestion off just as easily. The willingness of trolling victims to be hurt by words, he argued, makes them complicit, and trolling will end as soon as we all get over it. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Goes Underground
an audience for my retarded 'daddy vlog' and random rantings, with zero fucking success I might add. Because you know, it was the thing to do. Keep up with the 'movement', get comments, be popular. Web2.0. New media, social media. Fuck it all. I personally cant wait for the next bubble to burst and all the social media poseurs move on to the next 'big' thing. Who knows, all the true artists will survive doing what they always did, what they do. All trading torrents, sharing their are free of comments and trackbacks. Like net beat poets. Me, however, I've been a corporate fucktard for too long i think I've forgotten how to be an artist. But this thread might be anathema to my artistic atrophy. I should quit trying to appeal to some idiotic notion of audience, to social fucking media, to you lot. Start doing shit for me again. And I wont ask for a penny. Until I'm popular. I know this thread, this forum is a public discussion and everyone is airing opinions and voicing feelings. But really, who gives a shit. Torrent? Who cares? Money? Who cares? There are bigger arguments to fight over than these. -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Goes Underground
With you and not with you on this one Rupert. We have not as a community engaged the artistic powers that be nearly as much as we have commerical interests. If we had, Wreck and Salvage would have a gig at MOMA similar to Rocketboom getting its gig at Sony. Many of what you state is sound about how videobloggers are viewed, but I cannot see people on this list or in my sphere of contacts relentlessly pursuing multiple outlets with the same relentlessness. There have been more failed attempts with corporations amongst the people on the list than there has been in the field of fine art. There has been small victories, though. List-members Loiez Deniel and Gabriel Soucheyre's Videoformes festival embraces online video, and I hope they will bring in more when I return to see it next year. I don't see me calling this a fail as a finger-wagging naughty children sort of thing. Where I'm coming from is more of a call to articulate ourselves better and to seek out new contacts. Perhaps I should have said this has been a fail...so far. And yes, the status quo in the art world sucks as much as things suck in the commercial world, but that's partly why we need to invade. And I wager that the artists change faster than the corporations will. 2008/8/6 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I totally don't agree with this part of your argument, Jeffrey. I don't think that most of those Galleries, museums, educational institutions, foundations, event planning organisations, collectives and others have been ready, willing or able to come into the fold. I totally agree that there people online works make video art I've seen in public art exhibitions with massive funding look like an episode of Sesame Street. - most video art in big galleries in London looks tired and old and shit when compared to the best video art that's going on in and around this community. But again and again when I've shown examples of great work by other people to people in the art world, their reaction is the same as the reaction of people in the commercial TV world. They reject it as of passing interest - the ephemeral work of hobbyists. They don't get it. They don't *want* to get it. You make it sound like it's our fault that they haven't got with the program and come into the fold. I don't think that's right at all. Nor do I think that they would be any more constructive in the organic development of personal video art than the commercial interests have been. And I don't see this community as failed, particularly in this way. This forum may be less active than it once was, but my individual connections with vloggers and artists tell me that nothing has failed. What I am most concerned about is that access to all our work will not be destroyed when the internet converges with home entertainment systems and portable devices. It's not all going to be about desktop computers and browsers for long. Commercial overlords will create interfaces to use with these devices which will prioritise their own advertiser-friendly mass-market stuff - devices which bring internet to your TV will have edited TV Guides - the iPhone has a YouTube app on the main menu which pushes featured content - they will take all the prime real estate. We need to create interfaces, apps, portals which will allow people to easily find independent, non-commercial content. Or we'll be shut out of easy access to all these devices and we'll lose the advantage we have now of free, open distribution. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 6-Aug-08, at 3:38 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: A sad mistake of this community as it developed is that we did not invite the established artistic community in as effectively as we invited the commercial interests in, but have continued as a collapsed community that has both artist and more commerically minded folk. This is probably the greatest failure of this community. Galleries, museums, educational institutions, foundations, event planning organisations, collectives and others need to be brought into the fold so that web-based video artists can take their long-deserved place in that world. They don't know us because we have not reached out to them, and I find it rather sad. There are people whose online works make video art I've seen in public art exhibitions with massive funding look like an episode of Sesame Street. We need to rectify this. 2008/8/6 Adam Mercado [EMAIL PROTECTED] adam%40influxx.com I havent seen the video yet, waiting for the link to arrive. But I step up onto my pedestal and rant like a bastard, cuz a ranting bastard is what I am. RE: art for payment Good for John for trying to make a living from his art. Anyone decrying him for doing this would surely not decline payment for their works of art. And I'm not talking about corporate whoring paid to produce either. I'm talking about ART. Like the paintings you see in the gallery
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Goes Underground
Well. Kathy Sierra's stalkertrolls called it art. That is all. 2008/8/7 Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I'm not sure I would call it art(shrug) Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you and Zadi would go apeshit when you saw it. I know Cheryl's video earlier in the year upset you guys, and it was a lot more of a reasoned 'call bullshit' (even if wrong) than this. If someone did this to me, I might respect their right to do it as an artist, but you can be pretty sure they wouldn't get such a calm, well-reasoned reply. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 5-Aug-08, at 11:48 PM, Steve Woolf wrote: If I wanted to, I could choose to view John's masturbation scene, overlaid with my wife's name and followed by a video of her, as something that should warrant a physical confrontation. That success has not come at the expense of other content creators, at least in my opinion. In fact, I think we have all done quite a lot to help elevate awareness for independent artists. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Why be so coy about Information dystopia?
The torrent is attached. All this hemming and hawing about John's video without public sharing of the link is a lame attempt to avoid the inevitable. Let's get it overwith. I'm sure it isn't going to be pretty, but it seems we can't handle pretty. So let the downloading begin. And your ire, if there is any, is lost on me. If the file doesn't attach, get it here: http://rapidshare.com/files/135079235/information_dystopia.mp4.torrent.html -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] virtual interviews workflow/tech advice?
Maybe the jing project could be good here as well. http://www.jingproject.com/ 2008/5/13 Lauren Galanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey Guys, I've got a project at work kicking around. We're looking into doing virtual webcam interviews and I've been charged with recommending the tech/workflow. So far I'm thinking to use iMovie's record-from-webcam feature to record just the iChat video, and simultaneously run Snapz Pro (or iShowU) to capture the screen + video in case we want that. Have heard that SnpazPro files don't play nice with FCP though, is that true? Thinking the built-in webcam on the MBP isn't good enough quality for what we want...any recommendations for external webcams? Also wondering if anyone knows of good USB lav mics so we can get good audio straight into the computer as well. Basically, to anyone who's done virtual interviews or similar, I'm looking for any workflow/tech recs you can pass my way. Thanks everyone! -Lauren -- Lauren Galanter www.laurengalanter.com www.linkedin.com/in/laureng Skype: lgalanter AIM: aistalas 610-761-4435 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] New Vlog Europe Blog Post - Input Needed
Hi all - Just posted a new post to the Vlog Europe Blog reporting on the great Videoformes Festival in Clermont Ferrand, France. I also posted on how the planning is going, and we'd love for any of you that are considering attending or definitely attending to give input about a few ideas I threw out. See you on the blog! J -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Video Artist Arrested for Taking Photos of Police
Ryanne, Hodson, Jay Dedman, Raymond Kristiansen and I had the privilege of spending some time with the Franco-Colombian Video artist Triny Prada last night. She's a powerful woman who does extraordinary work and has a sharp mind. You can see her on Raymond's video here: http://dltq.org/2008/01/31/like-a-painting/ Triny was arrested last night after being suspected of taking photos of police officers, which is illegal in France. Fellow list member Loiez Deniel has started a blog about the affair, and you can get the full story here: http://urltea.com/2xa5 http://dltq.org/2008/01/31/like-a-painting/ I am astounded and saddened that people are treated this way. http://dltq.org/2008/01/31/like-a-painting/ -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] filming and cops : beware
I was just telling Jay that the worst thing is that if any of you tried to take a video of the flics (cops) being so brutal, then you ALL would have been arrested. On 13/03/2008, Gabriel Soucheyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Commentaire sur L'artiste franco-colombienne Triny Prada arrêtée parce qu'elle prenait des photos de ses amis. par Gabriel Soucheyre Gabriel Soucheyre Aujourd'hui à 18:22 As an international video art festival, I feel ashamed at what happened last night after the vernissage : we were dragged by the police out out of a bar, one of my guests was slapped, her camera smashed on the pavement and handcuffed violently, thrown into the police car and into jail ! http://trinyprada.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/franco-colombian-artist-triny-prada-arrested-for-taking-photos-of-her-freinds/ Gabriel Soucheyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Département Métiers du livre et éditions numériques Université Blaise Pascal 34, av Carnot BP 185 63006 Clermont-Ferrand cedex T + 33 (0) 612 59 27 53 Skype : callto:gabrielsoucheyre my vlogs : http://gasprod.blip.tv/ http://gabriel-soucheyre.jimdo.com/ .. VIDEOFORMES vidéo et nouveaux médias dans l'art contemporain www.videoformes.com BP 80411 63011 Clermont-Ferrand Cedex 1 / France T + 33 (0) 473 17 02 17 Direction : Gabriel SOUCHEYRE + 33 (0) 612 59 27 53 Contribuez à la protection de l'environnement, n'imprimez ce mail qu'en cas de nécessité Help the environment, print out this e-mail only if you need to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Video Artist Arrested for Taking Photos of Police
The freakout over something like that in France would be INSANE. The rationale behind the no photo/video of police is to protect policemen. Somewhat valid point, but who protects the police from us? Is this an all-or-nothing situation? Is there a way to legislate things such that there are times when it is and isn't ok to film policemen? I'd love to hear what Josh Wolf has to say about this. On 13/03/2008, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Triny was arrested last night after being suspected of taking photos of police officers, which is illegal in France. Fellow list member Loiez Deniel has started a blog about the affair, and you can get the full story here: http://urltea.com/2xa5 http://dltq.org/2008/01/31/like-a-painting/ oh man. whatever happened was overreaction. France needs http://ratemycop.com. (i guess its be http://ratemyLEcop.com) Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Raymond and I are presenting for the British Chaber of Commerce -Copenhagen
Ha. I was just using the lost as part of a demonstration of how I can reach 10,000 sets of eyeballs with a message in 30 seconds. On 26/02/2008, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm so impressed to know such fancy pants! On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com wrote: ...as I type! -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Raymond and I are presenting for the British Chaber of Commerce -Copenhagen
...as I type! -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for people to invite to Vlog Europe '08
Was going to wait until the venue issue was settled, but I'll do it now. On 02/02/2008, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to have this on Upcoming; I can create it or you can, so you can have better control over the details. It helps get the word out and remind those of us with full brains. Merci, Rox On Jan 31, 2008 9:49 PM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com wrote: Macadamia nuts are almost more welcome than you are, Rox. Thanks, for stepping up, ladies. If some or all of you could come, we would be more than thrilled. I am at your disposal for travel help and French goodie dispatch. On 01/02/2008, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] okekai%40gmail.comokekai%40gmail.com wrote: I too meet the standards of #3 though I realize that may be fully cancelled out by #4. :-) I do bring aloha and chocolate-covered macadamia nuts though when I travel, as an unofficial emissary of Hawaii. I've got you guys down on the calendar in any case. Aloha, Rox On Jan 31, 2008 11:04 AM, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED]kitykity%40gmail.com kitykity%40gmail.comkitykity%40gmail.com wrote: Send me an email anyways... kitykity at gmail. Suzy --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hooray for #3! You were on my list of people to mail. Get me off-list if there's anything I can do to help you find your way to Budapest. I can't direct you through the women-only section of the Gellert Spa, though. ;-) On 31/01/2008, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fall under #3. :) I have airline miles, and am looking to make a trip to Europe this fall! I really hope I can come--and I hope you guys will keep me from getting hopelessly lost! LOL Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytaylor@ wrote: Hi everyone - Now that we've set dates (October 18-19, Budapest), I'm/we're looking to invite people (or for you to contact people) to let them know when and where the event is. Here's some ideas foe the kind of people we're looking to invite: 1. Contacts in Hungary are critical (I saw your Tweet Bicycle Mark) 2. People you would LOVE to have there 3. WOMEN 4. People from countries we haven't seen represented 5. EU Bloggers that use video, but wouldn't necessarily call themselves videobloggers 6. Anybody that you think would make a good vlogger. 7. Anybody you think has something to add to the weekend. People feel special when they're invited, or that some people who wouldn't come otherwise would. Any help you can give me here is most welcome. Cheers, J -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: thejeffreytaylor@ http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been
