[videoblogging] Re: Storytelling with Rich Media Networked Technology
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first canvas of choice is the open web. I've also always been a Quicktime experimenter together with using SMIL, AJAX and some flash. I'm not completely sold on the idea of so-called rich ebooks. It just happens to be an area of research that I continue to stay tuned to. I do think Sophie is an interesting project and over time, it can potentially be enticing to creatives who want to wrap as much rich media into an environment that can be collaborative, shared and connected. but that sounds like the web. But one approach need not replace or supersede another. Choices are good. In a way, Sophie is (or can be) similar to a use case such as SpinXpress + Videoblog. was very excited about Keynote - which does everything we want. But... no player. Keynote exports to quicktime, but the whole file needs to download before any interactivity can happen. I dont know much about Keynote. Are you referring to the Apple Software? If so, I do recall that looking interesting. What features are important to you? Regarding the whole file needing to be downloaded before Interactive features can kick in that's not so bad is it? Could present some other content while the files download or just see if people can be a little patient for a little extra juice in the experience. I hear you. Just wouldn;t look at it as a deal breaker. In past experiments with Quicktime and Javascript, I did interesting things with just using timers. Grab length of video. Use javascript play and stop buttons which also triggers a separate timer to begin and stop. Based on the elapsed time value, trigger some function to do whatever. Shit like that can be interesting. I should dig up some of that. I remember even using the trial version of LSP4 just to create a few functional QT buttons that did unusual things like play/stop/scratch multiple movies embedded on a page with certain movie id. The problem started when focus shifted to RSS for distributing audio/video. So it became more important to contain as much as possible in that downloadable video itself. But I think the emphasis on RSS enclosures and so on has died down a bit and many people are enjoying video and all sorts of rich media right on the web itself. Both have value though. This is why I also am very interested in Mozilla Prism as a hybrid solution. http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/11/prism-prototype-now-available-on-mac-and\ -linux/ Do you have any experiments to share? Sull On Jan 6, 2008 8:18 PM, Will Luers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Sull, I've been thinking a lot about how to bring together video and text in the same container. Started out with Livestage Pro which was really the best, but sadly no longer exists. Quicktime has so much potential to do interactive. Checked out Sophie as well. I was very excited about Keynote - which does everything we want. But... no player. Keynote exports to quicktime, but the whole file needs to download before any interactivity can happen. And then I decided that the simple browser is what we should play with - CSS and embedded video. Not much in the way of interactive potential, but can play multiple simultaneous files and of course static text with video. There is Flash, but for some reason coding buttons just kills my energy. Would love to continue this discussion/experimentation! Will http://taylorstreetstudio.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Sull sulleleven@ wrote: Below is an old post where I touched on the future of ebooks and how it relates to vlogging and just rich story-telling in general. I thought it was a good time to bring it up again as it seems to bleed into some other discussions going on lately. And, I'd like to again point to a project that is attempting to provide open source software for the future ebook. I've been following this project since it was TK3 http://www.nightkitchen.com/. http://sophieproject.org/ Thanks, Sull On Jun 21, 2006 8:04 AM, Michael Sullivan sulleleven@ wrote: Good topic, Raymond. This has always been on my mind as well. Videos like some of Daniels are great interdigitations of audiovisuals and text. That's why I personally feel that Daniel's work is some of the most important in the vlogosphere right now. Important as in You Should Experience These. My hope is that many will be inspired to experiment with their own creations after watching what 'can be done' with video in order to convey+entertain. I think in a few short years, there will be a return of the ebook revolution where ebooks will be socially networked rich mixed media that will look and play on all platforms exactly as the creator intended
[videoblogging] Re: Storytelling with Rich Media Networked Technology
, 2008 8:18 PM, Will Luers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Sull, I've been thinking a lot about how to bring together video and text in the same container. Started out with Livestage Pro which was really the best, but sadly no longer exists. Quicktime has so much potential to do interactive. Checked out Sophie as well. I was very excited about Keynote - which does everything we want. But... no player. Keynote exports to quicktime, but the whole file needs to download before any interactivity can happen. And then I decided that the simple browser is what we should play with - CSS and embedded video. Not much in the way of interactive potential, but can play multiple simultaneous files and of course static text with video. There is Flash, but for some reason coding buttons just kills my energy. Would love to continue this discussion/experimentation! Will http://taylorstreetstudio.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Sull sulleleven@ wrote: Below is an old post where I touched on the future of ebooks and how it relates to vlogging and just rich story-telling in general. I thought it was a good time to bring it up again as it seems to bleed into some other discussions going on lately. And, I'd like to again point to a project that is attempting to provide open source software for the future ebook. I've been following this project since it was TK3 http://www.nightkitchen.com/. http://sophieproject.org/ Thanks, Sull On Jun 21, 2006 8:04 AM, Michael Sullivan sulleleven@ wrote: Good topic, Raymond. This has always been on my mind as well. Videos like some of Daniels are great interdigitations of audiovisuals and text. That's why I personally feel that Daniel's work is some of the most important in the vlogosphere right now. Important as in You Should Experience These. My hope is that many will be inspired to experiment with their own creations after watching what 'can be done' with video in order to convey+entertain. I think in a few short years, there will be a return of the ebook revolution where ebooks will be socially networked rich mixed media that will look and play on all platforms exactly as the creator intended it to be. They will be projects using any and all media formats that are available to content creators. They will be bloggy. They will be powerful. The canvas for any artist to use to compile media elements as juxtapositions for the world to experience. It will not only be an extension of vlogging but it will become the most flexible and free platform of which all others can exist within. It will help tell stories that we can see and hear. sull On 6/20/06, R. Kristiansen raymondmk@ wrote: Hello all, I don't know if there is any specific topics scheduled for tonight's flash-meeting (the one that starts at approximately 15 minutes at the URL Paul gave), but I would like to discuss how the different media formats limits us / gives us freedom of expression. As a videoblogger, how do you feel about writing a text-only entry? As primarily an audio-podcaster, how would it be to one day make a video entry? How confident are we in mixing these media tools? Since I started videoblogging in dec 04, I have often felt that video was limiting to me, and part of my way out of that limitation was to use text and animations, like in this example: http://www.dltq.org/v1/?p=313 Daniel Liss from http://pouringdown.tv has been a big influence for me the last months, and I have begun to wonder how text and video work together, and how we could use these tools more freely. The text does not have to be in the form of text surrounding the video in the blog entry, or as subtitles on the video itself. Daniel's latest video is a great example of this: http://pouringdown.tv/?p=77 Anyway, I don't know how many others are interested in this topic, but this is a suggestion at least :) Best regards, Raymond M. Kristiansen http://dltq.org http://www.intermediated.com (new)* http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=55d6e7-4816 * On 6/21/06, Paul Knight paul.knight7@ wrote: Hi Guys, I am hosting a video flash meeting tonight at the usual time, due to being in bed tomorrow morning at 9am, lucky for some, you might say, but I look forward to our little get togethers and to find I may need to go to bed early strikes me as a little odd. SO I went ahead and booked a flash meeting for the usual time of 5pm-6.30pm PST for all those who don't wish to stay up until 2.30am on a school night. *http
[videoblogging] Re: Storytelling with Rich Media Networked Technology
Hey Sull, I've been thinking a lot about how to bring together video and text in the same container. Started out with Livestage Pro which was really the best, but sadly no longer exists. Quicktime has so much potential to do interactive. Checked out Sophie as well. I was very excited about Keynote - which does everything we want. But... no player. Keynote exports to quicktime, but the whole file needs to download before any interactivity can happen. And then I decided that the simple browser is what we should play with - CSS and embedded video. Not much in the way of interactive potential, but can play multiple simultaneous files and of course static text with video. There is Flash, but for some reason coding buttons just kills my energy. Would love to continue this discussion/experimentation! Will http://taylorstreetstudio.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Below is an old post where I touched on the future of ebooks and how it relates to vlogging and just rich story-telling in general. I thought it was a good time to bring it up again as it seems to bleed into some other discussions going on lately. And, I'd like to again point to a project that is attempting to provide open source software for the future ebook. I've been following this project since it was TK3 http://www.nightkitchen.com/. http://sophieproject.org/ Thanks, Sull On Jun 21, 2006 8:04 AM, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good topic, Raymond. This has always been on my mind as well. Videos like some of Daniels are great interdigitations of audiovisuals and text. That's why I personally feel that Daniel's work is some of the most important in the vlogosphere right now. Important as in You Should Experience These. My hope is that many will be inspired to experiment with their own creations after watching what 'can be done' with video in order to convey+entertain. I think in a few short years, there will be a return of the ebook revolution where ebooks will be socially networked rich mixed media that will look and play on all platforms exactly as the creator intended it to be. They will be projects using any and all media formats that are available to content creators. They will be bloggy. They will be powerful. The canvas for any artist to use to compile media elements as juxtapositions for the world to experience. It will not only be an extension of vlogging but it will become the most flexible and free platform of which all others can exist within. It will help tell stories that we can see and hear. sull On 6/20/06, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I don't know if there is any specific topics scheduled for tonight's flash-meeting (the one that starts at approximately 15 minutes at the URL Paul gave), but I would like to discuss how the different media formats limits us / gives us freedom of expression. As a videoblogger, how do you feel about writing a text-only entry? As primarily an audio-podcaster, how would it be to one day make a video entry? How confident are we in mixing these media tools? Since I started videoblogging in dec 04, I have often felt that video was limiting to me, and part of my way out of that limitation was to use text and animations, like in this example: http://www.dltq.org/v1/?p=313 Daniel Liss from http://pouringdown.tv has been a big influence for me the last months, and I have begun to wonder how text and video work together, and how we could use these tools more freely. The text does not have to be in the form of text surrounding the video in the blog entry, or as subtitles on the video itself. Daniel's latest video is a great example of this: http://pouringdown.tv/?p=77 Anyway, I don't know how many others are interested in this topic, but this is a suggestion at least :) Best regards, Raymond M. Kristiansen http://dltq.org http://www.intermediated.com (new)* http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=55d6e7-4816 * On 6/21/06, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I am hosting a video flash meeting tonight at the usual time, due to being in bed tomorrow morning at 9am, lucky for some, you might say, but I look forward to our little get togethers and to find I may need to go to bed early strikes me as a little odd. SO I went ahead and booked a flash meeting for the usual time of 5pm-6.30pm PST for all those who don't wish to stay up until 2.30am on a school night. *http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=55d6e7- 4816*http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=55d6e7-4816 * * * * * * *Paul* * * -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org [Non-text portions of this message
[videoblogging] Cinema Without Show Business
Hi, This is something I wrote last summer and just came out this month on an academic journal called Post-Identity, edited by Nick Rombes. It was written in response to discussions here last year about ads and personal media - so it is a bit out of date! Not so much vlog theory as finding common ground for a certain kind of cinema practice. Anyway, it may be of interest to some. Would appreciate any feedback: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cinema Without Show Business: a Poetics of Vlogging by Will Luers http://tinyurl.com/2z8bb2 thanks, Will http://wwwtaylorstreetstudio.com/blog
[videoblogging] Re: 2006: Year of...
It is starting to look like the first 100 years of cinema were all about figuring out a universal language. The next 100 years are about people having conversations with this language. So we are in a massive house party and there are many rooms, some more popular than others. Cool shit is going on in the attic. Go check out the basement. A lot of great people are on the front porch. But here is the thing. Its not all about the front porch anymore. There are many rooms in this house. 2006: The Year of Many Rooms -Will Luers www.taylorstreetstudio.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] making a vlog soft
Many vloggers have adopted the url credit at the end of their vids. So why not make this clickable? Send us to the comments page, or text related to the video or to more video... Here is a simple and free way to add hotspots to a vlog. Ezedia is really basic quicktime authoring software and it is free if you limit the amount of frames and objects per project. You make a 5-10 sec. movie of your credit sequence with a hotspot that can link to a url in a web browser. This can be a homepage or comments page, whatever. Then cut and paste this into the end of your video using Quicktime pro. I think this will be a big step in making vlogs more porous (as a href=http:// hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/04/22/credits/adrian miles/a puts it). Here is the link: http://www.ezedia.com/ Will Luers www.taylorstreetstudio.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making a vlog soft
Andreas, Here is the demo download page: http://www.ezedia.com/products/downloads/eZediaQTI_demo/ The eZediaQTI Demo is limited to exporting a QuickTime movie containing a maximum of 5 objects, across a maximum of 5 frames. For credits and simple links, this should be plenty. -Will www.taylorstreetstudio.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:06:17 +0100, Will Luers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ezedia is really basic quicktime authoring software and it is free if you limit the amount of frames and objects per project. I have looked at Ezedia before, but backed away on the cost (cheaper than LiveStage, but everything is). I don't see a free version on that page. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making a vlog soft
Andreas, Here is the demo download page: http://www.ezedia.com/products/downloads/eZediaQTI_demo/ The eZediaQTI Demo is limited to exporting a QuickTime movie containing a maximum of 5 objects, across a maximum of 5 frames. For credits and simple links, this should be plenty. -Will www.taylorstreetstudio.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:06:17 +0100, Will Luers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ezedia is really basic quicktime authoring software and it is free if you limit the amount of frames and objects per project. I have looked at Ezedia before, but backed away on the cost (cheaper than LiveStage, but everything is). I don't see a free version on that page. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making a vlog soft
That was great Adrian. A really interesting use of quicktime for an essay about being open and questioning. Something we didn't get in school, for sure... Would love to see more student work. I know you are not crazy about syndication, but I think this work would be great in an RSS feed. Could work with absolute paths. No? -Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: around the 30/11/05 Adrian Miles mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: making a vlog soft that: to play, deccompress, keep success.mov outside success.media, and off you go. sorry, in my haste left off url: URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/downloads/success.zip the work is by Kate Murphy, a second year Media student. -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making a vlog soft
I wish ezedia could open a new quicktime player. Suppose a browser is good enough. A syndicated teaser video about the student's project with a hotspot to go to the QT file on a webpage. That might work. This is what I'm exploring now for a narrative project. What is frustrating about RSS is you loose text as an intergrated part of a vlog. Of course vloggers use words, but not in a way that is new and interesting, like your student's project. For example, a travel vlog - instead of one 5 min video. You could string/net together many very short videos with text. This is where the clickable vlog could take you out of the aggregator and down some intersting paths... anyway, these things take time -Will www.taylorstreetstudio.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: around the 30/11/05 Will Luers mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: making a vlog soft that: I know you are not crazy about syndication, but I think this work would be great in an RSS feed. Could work with absolute paths. No? ah, soapbox danger warning ALARM alas no. first of all ezedia doesn't write absolute paths, only relative, so all the media in the media directory are the videoclips that Kate's movie needs (different to the rhizomes that she links to). This is an excellent example of the problems with syndication at the moment. This is very good work. sophisticated, very very easy to make in Ezedia (it really did take one class to teach them how to do all this), and an excellent example of one sort of vlogging. But it can't syndicate because each video you add to your project becomes a child movie in ezedia. This is why it can make cool things, like movies inside of movies. RSS breaks this stuff, which is why it currently condemns us to TV in a box. /soapbox danger warning ALARM -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making a vlog soft
yes, you're right. what i ment was text more intergrated with video inside quicktime. so that no matter where that video goes it will contain these links and other media. like an about or credit page that is hidden inside the video, but can open with a button etc... Do appreciate the aggregators that keep text and video together from a post... -Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't lose the text associated with the blog post with RSS. In fact the text is a very integral part of it. In FireAnt, we've always treated the blog post as a whole unit, and strive to keep all the metadata in tact. This is not the case with some other podcatchers such as iTunes. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
