Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video editing on Linux?
On 3/16/07, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try VLC again. I don't have much experience with it on Linux, but I've used it on Windows quite a bit and it handles most MOV's and MP4's (including h264) well. Thanks for the advice Bill. I absolutely LOVE VLC.. it is the best video player hands down on Mac, Windows, and Linux in my opinion. The problem is the VLC plugins. They're too new... not well developed. I think they only started developing 3-6 months ago. That said I AM going to check them out again, and I do expect them to make rapid advances. I believe in VLC so much so that I'm already on one mailing list and looking for more info. Hopefully I can help in the same unofficial way as the early days of fireant and blip. They could really use our support... AND most importantly this ISN'T just about linux. If the VLC plugins get really good this could mean ALL firefox browsers on all platforms one day might be able to include by default a set of video plugins that handle ALL or nearly all media. There might... might be some legal issues with some of the codecs.. but hells bells... even if you have to download the plugin seperately this could be a HUGE coup for the media world because it would create like Firefox itself a platform for the much more rapid evolving of open standards... whereas firefox helped with CSS and other web based standards... a cross platform plugin and media player system could extend standards and end-to-end interoperability for media like ogg-orvis out ward through our media world. The browser is the new platform as many have noted. Open source multimedia packages, plugins, and codecs are the key to seriously opening up this new world so one day a kid with a $10 video camera and a $100 linux computer can actually post some decent photos and videos. It's also the key to evolving beyond the current mess of video codec incompatibilities, and not just in web browsers... but it'll extend outward rapidly to affect future hardware as well. Without open source innovation would come to a stand still in this space... and we'll all be pedaling our wares on commercial enties ideas of new and innovative platforms... like the blueray and HDDVD... you know... if you can afford thousands of dollars in overhead and dealing with completely anti-DIY, anti-consumer technology to begin with. Damn, I'm rambling ferociously. Sorry, it's late. Thanks for the advice Bill. Rock over St. Louis. Rock on chicago. (a bastardized reference, but I'm sure you can tell me who it is anyway, he's right up your alley. ;) Peace, -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy all, Great thread! I was happy to find it however old. Does anyone know what the best video plugins are for Firefix on Linux? Some detail... I had a spare intel box sitting around and put Ubuntu on it, I'm so pleased that as an experiment I've decided to use it as my primary desk workstation for the time being. Ironicly the only problem I have is I can't find any good plugins. Currently I have the totem media player plugins installed. These function very poorly if at all for most video types. I tried the VLC plugins as VLC is the best media player on any platform and I've been using it for years. However, for some reason they didn't work. I'm about to go back and give VLC a second try though. I'm hoping some linux guru will pop up and say there's some package that everyone swears by. Until then, I'll be googling around the web desperately looking for some good video plugins for linux. BTW, the Flash and Real Player plugin's work great. I just can't play MOV's, MP4's and other downloadable formats. -Mike mmeiser.com mefeedia.com On 2/26/07, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hope that this: http://ubuntustudio.org/ will be the great opensource media creation Linux distro--but we'll see ... I need to get a PC so I can test this out when it's ready. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Tom Gosse hermit@ wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2007 08:14 pm, Nox Dineen wrote: I'm swapping back to Linux on my laptop, and although I'll keep Windows on my desktop (my main video editing machine), I will be using the lappy to do some video stuff when I'm away from home. I'm wondering of anybody here uses Linux, and if so what you're using to edit video. I never did find anything decent for photo or video work (GIMP just doesn't cut it for me, I'm a Photoshop girl). Thanks, Nox -- Tom Gosse hermit@ I'm using Linux as my primary operating system now. My Windoze machine died, I lost a lot of video editing software
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video editing on Linux?
On 3/16/07, Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, You might want to have a look at mplayer and its plugins mplayer: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html mplayer-plugin http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/faq.php Its for mozilla but might work for Firefox too. If I have time I might try to get it working later. Thanks Mark! I'm on it! I hadn't thought of mplayer. Before VLC came along and eclipsed it Mplayer was my love. In fact it was my first love for open source media playback. VLC has evolved just a little quicker. Any other advice you have I could desperately use. BTW... among other things I was looking for something to replace itunes and I could sync my ipod with. The best thing I've read about so far seems to be Yamipod as you can put it ON your ipod and it works on all platforms... windows, linux and mac. Which rules. It doesn't do podcast aggregation though I don't think. For podcast aggregation I'm also looking into myPodder, just as long as it'll work with more than podcast ready. (I use mefeedia and odeo as well.) Perhaps Yamipod and myPodder is the perfect one two combination. But in case they aren't I'm also looking at Rythmbox, Amarok. and banshee. Banshee is new to me but highly recommended, doesn't do podcast aggregation though I don't think. I've used rythmbox in the past it's capable, but not much more... and Amarok is the new kid on the block, I can't wait to try it! Some rave reviews of it. I tell you all this in the hopes you if not someone else will pick up on it. Lot's of name dropping of software apps and platforms. I'm moving my entire desktop over to linux so I'm going to be reading up on, researching and talking about a whole wide range of linxu software. Ideally I'd even like to do a little video editing on linux, which is what attracted me to this thread. I will almost definitely always have a Mac laptop... starting to eye the new linux ones. (Love how parrellels crossover handles linux and windows.) However, other then the laptop I hope to never run another OS that's not open source again... that's the dream anyway. -Mike Mark www.dcinput.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy all, Great thread! I was happy to find it however old. Does anyone know what the best video plugins are for Firefix on Linux? Some detail... I had a spare intel box sitting around and put Ubuntu on it, I'm so pleased that as an experiment I've decided to use it as my primary desk workstation for the time being. Ironicly the only problem I have is I can't find any good plugins. Currently I have the totem media player plugins installed. These function very poorly if at all for most video types. I tried the VLC plugins as VLC is the best media player on any platform and I've been using it for years. However, for some reason they didn't work. I'm about to go back and give VLC a second try though. I'm hoping some linux guru will pop up and say there's some package that everyone swears by. Until then, I'll be googling around the web desperately looking for some good video plugins for linux. BTW, the Flash and Real Player plugin's work great. I just can't play MOV's, MP4's and other downloadable formats. -Mike mmeiser.com mefeedia.com On 2/26/07, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hope that this: http://ubuntustudio.org/ will be the great opensource media creation Linux distro--but we'll see ... I need to get a PC so I can test this out when it's ready. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Tom Gosse hermit@ wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2007 08:14 pm, Nox Dineen wrote: I'm swapping back to Linux on my laptop, and although I'll keep Windows on my desktop (my main video editing machine), I will be using the lappy to do some video stuff when I'm away from home. I'm wondering of anybody here uses Linux, and if so what you're using to edit video. I never did find anything decent for photo or video work (GIMP just doesn't cut it for me, I'm a Photoshop girl). Thanks, Nox -- Tom Gosse hermit@ I'm using Linux as my primary operating system now. My Windoze machine died, I lost a lot of video editing software and I can't afford $300 to $500 to upgrade to Vista. Here is a link to a site about movies on Linux: http://linuxmovies.org From what I've read, and I haven't read everything, there are no programs for Linux that compare to Adobe Premiere Pro, After Effects, or Apple's Final Cut Pro. The really good programs used by the big studios in Hollywood are all proprietary software developed especially for them. I've just installed Kino but haven't had a chance to play with it yet. I don't
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video editing on Linux?
Howdy all, Great thread! I was happy to find it however old. Does anyone know what the best video plugins are for Firefix on Linux? Some detail... I had a spare intel box sitting around and put Ubuntu on it, I'm so pleased that as an experiment I've decided to use it as my primary desk workstation for the time being. Ironicly the only problem I have is I can't find any good plugins. Currently I have the totem media player plugins installed. These function very poorly if at all for most video types. I tried the VLC plugins as VLC is the best media player on any platform and I've been using it for years. However, for some reason they didn't work. I'm about to go back and give VLC a second try though. I'm hoping some linux guru will pop up and say there's some package that everyone swears by. Until then, I'll be googling around the web desperately looking for some good video plugins for linux. BTW, the Flash and Real Player plugin's work great. I just can't play MOV's, MP4's and other downloadable formats. -Mike mmeiser.com mefeedia.com On 2/26/07, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hope that this: http://ubuntustudio.org/ will be the great opensource media creation Linux distro--but we'll see ... I need to get a PC so I can test this out when it's ready. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Tom Gosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2007 08:14 pm, Nox Dineen wrote: I'm swapping back to Linux on my laptop, and although I'll keep Windows on my desktop (my main video editing machine), I will be using the lappy to do some video stuff when I'm away from home. I'm wondering of anybody here uses Linux, and if so what you're using to edit video. I never did find anything decent for photo or video work (GIMP just doesn't cut it for me, I'm a Photoshop girl). Thanks, Nox -- Tom Gosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using Linux as my primary operating system now. My Windoze machine died, I lost a lot of video editing software and I can't afford $300 to $500 to upgrade to Vista. Here is a link to a site about movies on Linux: http://linuxmovies.org From what I've read, and I haven't read everything, there are no programs for Linux that compare to Adobe Premiere Pro, After Effects, or Apple's Final Cut Pro. The really good programs used by the big studios in Hollywood are all proprietary software developed especially for them. I've just installed Kino but haven't had a chance to play with it yet. I don't think Linux will have any really good video editing programs for the average user for quite some time. For one thing, the installed base of home desktop users is too small. Because Linux is a more efficient OS it doesn't have a lot of routines that automatically install and tweak programs for the user. You need to get under the hood and do a lot of tweaking on your own. That's more work than the average user wants to do. As one friend of mine put it: he want's to edit video, not learn how to program the Bash shell. Good luck, and keep us posted on how goes your editing on Linux. Tom Gosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
