I'll add that it takes a special brand of courage to ask "Why has
everything got to be a file" in front of a Plan 9 crowd ;)
The off-track discussions with Daniel were enlightening. I think his
perspective on "NoT" is quite valuable, and has inspired some ideas
since I got back.
ron minnich
The author of the paper not only helped get the conference going this
year, he worked hard this and last year to make sure our youtube channel
worked. He also has done a lot of work to get faculty from U. Bamberg in
Germany on board. The author was a major part of making IWP9 2024 go so
well.
Briefly, no. It's a constraint language, and it happens to be able to
produce yaml etc as a side-process.
I've used it to enforce constraints in a tax application. "Enforce"
understates what actually can be done.
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 20:31, G B via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
> Isn't Cue
Isn't Cue YACL (Yet Another Configuration Language)? Absolutely no way one can
deprecate YAML and just use Cue, so all one is doing essentially is adding one
more thing to learn and keep updated. And since it hasn't released 1.0, what
happens if the new YACL never materializes but was adopted?
Although cue itself is more generally useful, applied that way it's a
coping mechanism that indeed doesn't address the fundamental point:
like those Sendmail configuration languages that compiled down into the
rewrite language instead of just replacing that.
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:19, wrote:
On Apr 15, 2024, at 1:50 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>
> And, if I hear about it being
> “declarative” as a virtue, I point to the 81,000+ lines (and
> growing) of YAML, that I defy any one human to comprehend.
>
> You might find help in culang.org
Not sure how much the Cue language will help
Quoth Charles Forsyth :
>
> it's been a little while since i first looked at it, but i think one of the
> example application is exactly how one might use it to avoid 80k lines of
> yaml that you must look at directly.
while it may help -- this is just stacking complexity on top of
complexity.
it's been a little while since i first looked at it, but i think one of the
example application is exactly how one might use it to avoid 80k lines of
yaml that you must look at directly.
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 05:30, wrote:
> Taj Khattra wrote:
>
> > > > You might find help in culang.org
> > >
Taj Khattra wrote:
> > > You might find help in culang.org
> >
> > DNS can't seem to find that for me
>
> https://cuelang.org/
Much thanks!
Arnold
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 04:24, wrote:
> Charles Forsyth wrote:
>
> > > And, if I hear about it being
> > > “declarative” as a virtue, I point to the 81,000+ lines (and
> > > growing) of YAML, that I defy any one human to comprehend.
> >
> >
> > You might find
>
>
> > You might find help in culang.org
>
> DNS can't seem to find that for me
>
https://cuelang.org/
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Charles Forsyth wrote:
> > And, if I hear about it being
> > “declarative” as a virtue, I point to the 81,000+ lines (and
> > growing) of YAML, that I defy any one human to comprehend.
>
>
> You might find help in culang.org
DNS can't seem to find that for me
Thanks,
Arnold
cuelang.org rather On Apr 15, 2024, at 13:51, Charles Forsyth wrote: And, if I hear about it being“declarative” as a virtue, I point to the 81,000+ lines (andgrowing) of YAML, that I defy any one human to comprehend.You might find help in culang.org On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 at 20:49, Kim Shrier
>
> And, if I hear about it being
> “declarative” as a virtue, I point to the 81,000+ lines (and
> growing) of YAML, that I defy any one human to comprehend.
You might find help in culang.org
On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 at 20:49, Kim Shrier wrote:
> > On Apr 12, 2024, at 4:56 AM, David Arnold
> On Apr 12, 2024, at 4:56 AM, David Arnold wrote:
>
>> The vetting process needs some work, lads.
>
> More heresy than trolling, perhaps?
>
> It was thought-provoking for me. I wished I was there for the bar session
> afterwards.
>
> d
It didn’t read like a troll paper to me. I
Bar-raising.On Apr 12, 2024, at 06:29, Charles Forsyth wrote:Where’s the link? I haven’t seen one yet for reading papers in advance. Still one hour to go…I haven't read it yet myself, to avoid spoilers, but I thought it was a record even for Plan 9 that something has disturbed people even
>
> Where’s the link? I haven’t seen one yet for reading papers in advance.
> Still one hour to go…
I haven't read it yet myself, to avoid spoilers, but I thought it was a
record even for Plan 9 that something has disturbed people even before the
workshop opens!
Never mind, https://iwp9.org/10iwp9proceedings.pdf
> On Apr 12, 2024, at 06:56, David Arnold wrote:
>
>
>>
>> The vetting process needs some work, lads.
>
> More heresy than trolling, perhaps?
>
> It was thought-provoking for me. I wished I was there for the bar session
> afterwards.
>
Where’s the link? I haven’t seen one yet for reading papers in advance. Still
one hour to go…
> On Apr 12, 2024, at 06:04, Anthony Martin wrote:
>
> "Do we really have to have our own kernel? What are
> the benefits?" ...
>
> The IWP9 paper titled "centre, left and right" looks like
> a
> The vetting process needs some work, lads.
More heresy than trolling, perhaps?
It was thought-provoking for me. I wished I was there for the bar session
afterwards.
d
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On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 at 11:05, Anthony Martin wrote:
>
> The IWP9 paper titled "centre, left and right" looks like
> a complete troll. Was it generated by an LLM?
I don't always understand things written about plan9 but this seemed
even to me to be a bit off. However the author is listed as being
"Do we really have to have our own kernel? What are
the benefits?" ...
The IWP9 paper titled "centre, left and right" looks like
a complete troll. Was it generated by an LLM? I read the
whole thing and it was a waste of time. Zero stars, would
not recommend.
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