Re: Any plans to add Pale Moon browser to the repository?

2015-03-13 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 09:05:18PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: (Please note: this response is based mostly on the information included in your message. I only looked cursorily at the actual license of Pale Moon to confirm that it looks very non-free by our definitions.) I /believe/ that the

Re: Broken links for NET-install x64 ISO on https://www.debian.org/distrib/

2015-01-12 Thread Neil McGovern
The netinstall links to download the distro are still forwarding towards the older version, 7.7 of Debian. I had to manually adjust the links to 7.8, otherwise I could not download the image. Hi there, These have now been updated, and should be live on the site in the next couple of hours.

Marvell donation accelerates Debian ARM package builds

2015-01-08 Thread Neil McGovern
The Debian Project https://www.debian.org/ Marvell donation accelerates Debian ARM package builds pr...@debian.org January 8th, 2015 https://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150108

Bug#773318: clamav dies/hangs

2014-12-20 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi, On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 12:12:13PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Control: tags 773041 security Control: severity 773041 grave Justification: causes remote denial of service For info, I saw this a few days ago and reported it to the security team. It is indeed available in the wild,

Bug#773318: clamav dies/hangs

2014-12-20 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi, On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 12:12:13PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Control: tags 773041 security Control: severity 773041 grave Justification: causes remote denial of service For info, I saw this a few days ago and reported it to the security team. It is indeed available in the wild,

[Pkg-clamav-devel] Bug#773318: clamav dies/hangs

2014-12-20 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi, On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 12:12:13PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Control: tags 773041 security Control: severity 773041 grave Justification: causes remote denial of service For info, I saw this a few days ago and reported it to the security team. It is indeed available in the wild,

Re: 7.8 dates

2014-12-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 08:33:51PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: 3rd / 4th - I'm busy on the Saturday 10th / 11th - Fine for me 17th / 18th - jmw's BSP afternoon to Sunday afternoon 31st / 1st - Fine for me All fine. 24th / 25th - I can do Saturday morning, but will be afk from early

Re: 7.8 dates

2014-12-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 08:33:51PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: 3rd / 4th - I'm busy on the Saturday 10th / 11th - Fine for me 17th / 18th - jmw's BSP afternoon to Sunday afternoon 31st / 1st - Fine for me All fine. 24th / 25th - I can do Saturday morning, but will be afk from early

Re: 7.8 dates

2014-12-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 08:33:51PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: 3rd / 4th - I'm busy on the Saturday 10th / 11th - Fine for me 17th / 18th - jmw's BSP afternoon to Sunday afternoon 31st / 1st - Fine for me All fine. 24th / 25th - I can do Saturday morning, but will be afk from early

Re: Summary:Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-11-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 03:24:18PM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2014, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: No, the ctte did not say that. We had a flamewar about that interpretation before. That was almost word by word from

Bug#762194: Summary:Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-11-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 03:24:18PM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2014, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: No, the ctte did not say that. We had a flamewar about that interpretation before. That was almost word by word from

Bug#762194: Summary:Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-11-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 03:24:18PM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2014, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: No, the ctte did not say that. We had a flamewar about that interpretation before. That was almost word by word from

Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-11-26 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi, On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:29:28PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: 1) Heavily advertise (release-notes?) that doing an upgrade from wheezy/etc to jessie will give you systemd as init system and inform about the apt pinning solution. 3) Heavily advertise (again in release notes?) that you

Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-11-26 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 04:23:19PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 14:46 +, Neil McGovern wrote: Hi, On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:29:28PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: 1) Heavily advertise (release-notes?) that doing an upgrade from wheezy/etc to jessie will give

Re: debian-doc access

2014-11-26 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:06:41AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, I saw you apply for write access. I happily accepted you. Thanks :) I have no problem you to update anything but just curious what you are intending to do since you are kind of new to documentation. Mostly release notes

Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-11-26 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi, On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:29:28PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: 1) Heavily advertise (release-notes?) that doing an upgrade from wheezy/etc to jessie will give you systemd as init system and inform about the apt pinning solution. 3) Heavily advertise (again in release notes?) that you

Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-11-26 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 04:23:19PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 14:46 +, Neil McGovern wrote: Hi, On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:29:28PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: 1) Heavily advertise (release-notes?) that doing an upgrade from wheezy/etc to jessie will give

Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-11-26 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi, On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:29:28PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: 1) Heavily advertise (release-notes?) that doing an upgrade from wheezy/etc to jessie will give you systemd as init system and inform about the apt pinning solution. 3) Heavily advertise (again in release notes?) that you

Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-11-26 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 04:23:19PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 14:46 +, Neil McGovern wrote: Hi, On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:29:28PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: 1) Heavily advertise (release-notes?) that doing an upgrade from wheezy/etc to jessie will give

Re: increasing maximum ctte size

2014-11-18 Thread Neil McGovern
Even if it were as ready, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to have a separate GR. Voting once instead of twice is nice for everyone, but conflating two separate decisions in a single GR has been proven to be unwise in the past. And I'm especially wary of doing so with a constitutional

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-12 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 04:49:52PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Neil McGovern dijo [Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:31:35PM +]: I have a half-written series to make it cope with lettered, rather than numbered, options. Would it be worth my while finishing that off (in my CFT) ? I

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:30:58PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Andrey Rahmatullin: I know. So? If the first email of a non-DD gets delayed for a few hours, that's an acceptable price to pay IMHO. Nothing about delays wasn't mentioned in your previous email Moderating (some) emails

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 02:13:20PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: On Dienstag, 11. November 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd be willing to help out. So would I. me too, should this road be chosen. Excellent. In that case, my position is now meh :) Neil -- signature.asc Description:

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:12:20PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:10:13PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:53:43PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 57dd4d7c-3e92

Re: Jessie Freeze - What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
announcement? See the debian-devel archives from mid-Fenruary 2014. According to Neil McGovern, the code name shall be zurg. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00905.html While that was in no way official, at the time it kindof struck a chord, so I'd like us to just go

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:12:46PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Neil McGovern writes (Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling): Indeed, unfortunately so. Given the rather rushed nature though, it would be nice to try and work out a way of avoiding having to do this manual

Re: Bug#681501: Debian France on Debian's new donations page?

2014-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 09:33:13PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: Hi, Le 09/10/2014 19:41, Paul Wise a écrit : On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:45 AM, David Prévot wrote: Anyway, if we were to endorse such service, I believe debian-project@l.d.o would be the right place to have this conversation,

Re: Results for init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 02:43:13PM +, devo...@vote.debian.org wrote: This message is an automated, unofficial publication of vote results. Official results shall follow, sent in by the vote taker, namely Debian Project Secretary Whelp, that wasn't meant to happen. Apologies for the

Re: Call for Votes: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 05:53:36PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 57dd4d7c-3e92-428f-8ab7-10de5172589e [ ] Choice 1: Packages may not (in general) require a specific init system [ ] Choice 2: Support alternative init

Re: Maximum term for tech ctte members

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 09:52:39PM +, Sam Hartman wrote: Sune == Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: Sune I read the logs from the tech-ctte meeting, and my impression Sune was that - people in tech-ctte thinks that maximum terms are a Sune good idea - that they should

Re: Results for init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 02:43:13PM +, devo...@vote.debian.org wrote: This message is an automated, unofficial publication of vote results. Official results shall follow, sent in by the vote taker, namely Debian Project Secretary Whelp, that wasn't meant to happen. Apologies for the

Call for Votes: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
This is the first call for votes on the above GR. PLEASE NOTE: voting is not yet open. Voting period starts 00:00:00 UTC on Wednesday, November 5th, 2014 Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on Tuesday, November 18th, 2014 The following ballot is for voting on init system

Re: Call for Votes: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 05:53:36PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 57dd4d7c-3e92-428f-8ab7-10de5172589e [ ] Choice 1: Packages may not (in general) require a specific init system [ ] Choice 2: Support alternative init

Re: Call for Votes: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 07:54:46PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi Neil, On 04/11/14 at 17:53 +, Neil McGovern wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 57dd4d7c-3e92-428f-8ab7-10de5172589e [ ] Choice 1: Packages may not (in general) require

Re: Call for Votes: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 07:11:45PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: I think this is still possible. It's a shame that this slightly odd pre-CFV (CFV posted before voting period opens) wasn't explicitly a draft, and posted only to -vote. This vote has currently used up about 15 hours of my time,

Re: Call for Votes: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 09:17:51PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I cannot parse the last bullet point, sorry (and any the release team?). Also, the proposal does not mention the release team. Reasonable changes to preserve or improve sysvinit support should be accepted through the jessie

Re: Call for Votes: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 01:30:18PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 04 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 04/11/14 at 17:53 +, Neil McGovern wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 57dd4d7c-3e92-428f-8ab7-10de5172589e [ ] Choice 1

REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
Note: this is a re-issued CfV, please use the ballot below or your vote will be rejected. Voting is now open. Voting period starts 00:00:00 UTC on Wednesday, November 5th, 2014 Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on Tuesday, November 18th, 2014 The following ballot is for

Re: Maximum term for tech ctte members

2014-11-03 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi Sam, On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 07:00:46PM +, Sam Hartman wrote: This seems to have stalled and I'm disappointed to see that because I think this is an important issue. My recommendation is that you propose a resolution based on the comments you received. nontrivial ongoing

Bug#767275: unblock: wget/1.16-1

2014-10-29 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: release.debian.org Severity: normal User: release.debian@packages.debian.org Usertags: unblock Dear lovely release team, TL;DR: # CVE-2014-4887 unblock wget/1.16-1 age-days 2 wget/1.16-1 wget 1.16 in unstable currently fixes CVE-2014-4887: Absolute path traversal vulnerability in

Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-29 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 06:31:43PM +0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: On 28 October 2014 18:20, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: With all of those facilities, we've taken different approaches; with the mail transport agent, for example, we've defined an interface that all mail transport

Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-29 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:16:14PM +0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: On 29 October 2014 13:40, Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org wrote: * if we go the MTA/sh route, then we define lowest common denominator interface of an init system and only init systems providing that (possibly with a systemd

Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-29 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:27:40PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Neil McGovern writes (Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]): As far as I'm aware, we don't actually say that anywhere. Applications can only /rely

Bug#767275: unblock: wget/1.16-1

2014-10-29 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: release.debian.org Severity: normal User: release.debian@packages.debian.org Usertags: unblock Dear lovely release team, TL;DR: # CVE-2014-4887 unblock wget/1.16-1 age-days 2 wget/1.16-1 wget 1.16 in unstable currently fixes CVE-2014-4887: Absolute path traversal vulnerability in

Bug#765069: vim-gnome: huge icon in application selection menu

2014-10-23 Thread Neil McGovern
reassign #765069 nautilus retitle #765069 nautilus: Displays svg pixmaps as giant icons thanks On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 02:12:29PM -0400, James McCoy wrote: On Oct 23, 2014 1:33 PM, Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:13:50PM +0200, Niklas Fiekas wrote: a huge

Re: ITP: runit-init -- a UNIX init scheme with service supervision

2014-10-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 07:56:25AM +, Gerrit Pape wrote: This essentially is a reintroduction of the package runit-run, which was added to Debian end of 2002, and removed on request of the release team end of 2010, with the package name changed. Since then, a backward compatibility

Bug#766090: ITP: runit-init -- a UNIX init scheme with service supervision

2014-10-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 07:56:25AM +, Gerrit Pape wrote: This essentially is a reintroduction of the package runit-run, which was added to Debian end of 2002, and removed on request of the release team end of 2010, with the package name changed. Since then, a backward compatibility

Bug#766090: ITP: runit-init -- a UNIX init scheme with service supervision

2014-10-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 07:56:25AM +, Gerrit Pape wrote: This essentially is a reintroduction of the package runit-run, which was added to Debian end of 2002, and removed on request of the release team end of 2010, with the package name changed. Since then, a backward compatibility

Re: [Sorry Neil] Wording modification of the The ???no GR, please??? amendement.

2014-10-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 07:45:39AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Indeed, you are right: by definition, not all questions have been answered. The existing wording of the amendement is therefore logically inconsistent. I propose the following replacement as per article A.1.5 of our Contitution.

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-22 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi Sergey, On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 04:38:49PM +0300, Sergey Vlasov wrote: Seconded. I say no to systemd dependency. I want to be able to choose myself what init system to use in my Debian setup. This mail isn't signed, nor do I seem to be able to find you in db.debian.org. Unfortunately,

Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-21 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:14:44AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le lundi, 20 octobre 2014, 12.17:14 Neil McGovern a écrit : Ian's: make each package support all alternative init systems This is actively misleading in a least four ways: Yup, I wouldn't count that as neutral

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:29:21PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: --- The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcome

Re: Alternative proposal: reaffirm maintainers technical competence over the software they maintain

2014-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:21:18PM +0200, Luca Falavigna wrote: Dear fellow Developers, I would like to propose the following amendment proposal, and I hereby call for seconds. All received and valid. Thanks, Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:29:21PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Anyway, whichever the name I call for seconds (or comments: if this proposed amendment is considered harmful, let me know). Received (well, found in the middle of a mail thread, thanks for changing the subject though :P) and

Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 03:18:52PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Lucas Nussbaum writes (Re: GR option text on ballots): I'd like to propose: I would like to reiterate my view that these summaries should be positive, and written by the proponent of each version, so long as they are not

Re: Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)

2014-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 02:59:16PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: (CC secretary@ to avoid this getting overlooked in the mail flood.) I hereby formally propose the amendment below (Constitution A.1(1) `directly by proposer'), and, then, immediately accept it (A.1(2)). This resets the minimum

Debian Project mourns the loss of Peter Miller

2014-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
The Debian Project https://www.debian.org/ Debian Project mourns the loss of Peter Miller pr...@debian.org October 20th, 2014 https://www.debian.org/News/2014/20141020

Re: Alternative proposal: support for alternative init systems is desirable but not mandatory

2014-10-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 09:44:16AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I am therefore bringing forward an alternative proposal Recieved, and verified. Note, this has been proposed by the current Project Leader, and thus does not require seconds, but will record those seconding anyway. Neil --

Re: Alternative proposal: support for alternative init systems is desirable but not mandatory

2014-10-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 01:05:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 17/10/14 at 11:38 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 09:44:16AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: For the jessie release, all software that currently supports being run under sysvinit should continue to

Re: Alternative proposal: support for alternative init systems is desirable but not mandatory

2014-10-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 03:25:03PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 17/10/14 at 13:59 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 01:05:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 17/10/14 at 11:38 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 09:44:16AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote

Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 03:12:35PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Dear Kurt, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:17:27AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: If on -vote the required amount of seconds have been reached, I will announce that the GR process has been sarted on debian-devel-announce. This is

Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 03:46:57PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 03:30:54PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: This isn't something that's happened in the past, what's announced is a) that a GR process has started, b) the various CfVs, and c) the results. I'd be wary

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-16 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 04:05:41PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: I wish to propose the following general resolution, and hereby call for seconds. Your proposal has been received and is signed correctly. Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-16 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 07:57:06PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Seconded. I'm getting a bad signature from you, can you try again, perhaps with a clearsigned mail? Thanks, Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-14 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:14:59PM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: On 13 October 2014 22:51, Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 08:46:48PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On lun., 2014-10-13 at 19:30 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, a

Debian Project chooses LeaseWeb to provide global snapshot archive

2014-10-14 Thread Neil McGovern
The Debian Projecthttps://www.debian.org/ Debian Project chooses LeaseWeb to provide global snapshot archive pr...@debian.org October 14th, 2014

Bug#681501: Debian France on Debian's new donations page?

2014-10-09 Thread Neil McGovern
tags 681501 +patch thanks On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 09:31:19AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: If anyone reading this mail has the details already and can commit to the website CVS repository, please add Debian France there. ENOTIME sorry Patch attached, I'll commit this later if there's no

Bug#681501: Debian France on Debian's new donations page?

2014-10-09 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 07:33:55PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 09:31:19AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: If anyone reading this mail has the details already and can commit to the website CVS repository, please add

Bug#681501: Debian France on Debian's new donations page?

2014-10-09 Thread Neil McGovern
tags 681501 +patch thanks On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 09:31:19AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: If anyone reading this mail has the details already and can commit to the website CVS repository, please add Debian France there. ENOTIME sorry Patch attached, I'll commit this later if there's no

Bug#681501: Debian France on Debian's new donations page?

2014-10-09 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 07:33:55PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 09:31:19AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: If anyone reading this mail has the details already and can commit to the website CVS repository, please add

Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 763012)

2014-10-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 03:03:05PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Yeah, but Md is an arsehole anyway and requires printf to be a /bin/sh builtin instead of just adding /usr/bin to $PATH, especially now that the initrd mounts /usr already anyway, and CTTE decided to rather offend me than Md

Re: 7.7 planning

2014-09-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:38:37AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk writes: We're (over)due another wheezy point release; this time, 7.7. I propose we go for one of: 11/12 October 18/19 October 25/26 October All of these are still good for me.

Re: 7.7 planning

2014-09-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:38:37AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk writes: We're (over)due another wheezy point release; this time, 7.7. I propose we go for one of: 11/12 October 18/19 October 25/26 October All of these are still good for me.

Re: 7.7 planning

2014-09-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:38:37AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk writes: We're (over)due another wheezy point release; this time, 7.7. I propose we go for one of: 11/12 October 18/19 October 25/26 October All of these are still good for me.

Re: 7.7 planning

2014-09-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:38:37AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk writes: We're (over)due another wheezy point release; this time, 7.7. I propose we go for one of: 11/12 October 18/19 October 25/26 October All of these are still good for me.

FSF and Debian join forces to help free software users find the hardware they need

2014-09-08 Thread Neil McGovern
The Debian Projecthttps://www.debian.org/ FSF and Debian join forces to help free software users find the hardware they need pr...@debian.org September

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Neil McGovern
I have tried not to reply to this, but there's some bits in here I don't think should go unchallenged, but I'll stick to the major points rather than replying to each comment. On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 09:15:33AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 9/4/14, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote:

DebConf 14 closes in Portland and DebConf 15 dates announced

2014-08-31 Thread Neil McGovern
The Debian Projecthttps://www.debian.org/ DebConf 14 closes in Portland and DebConf 15 dates announced pr...@debian.org https://www.debian.org/News/2014/20140831

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 03:15:17PM +0400, vita...@yourcmc.ru wrote: I'm not a Debian developer, just a Debian user, and I want to say that I was happy to see XFCE being the default DE. Just because it's small, classic and neutral DE - which GNOME 3 definitely isn't. I think XFCE is a better

[Debconf-discuss] Press items for DebConf 14

2014-08-08 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all, I'll be sending out a number of press items/announcements before/during/after DebConf 14, but I need your help. If you're giving a particularly newsworthy[0] talk, please let me know and then catch up during DebConf, so we can coordinate sending these out! Thanks, Neil [0] newsworthy has

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Final list of accepted talks

2014-07-20 Thread Neil McGovern
Neil McGovern -The state of the bootstrap Wookey -Upstream Guide BoF Paul Wise -use Perl; # Annual meeting of the Debian Perl Group gregor herrmann -Validation and Continuous

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Final list of accepted talks

2014-07-20 Thread Neil McGovern
Neil McGovern -The state of the bootstrap Wookey -Upstream Guide BoF Paul Wise -use Perl; # Annual meeting of the Debian Perl Group gregor herrmann -Validation and Continuous

Updated Debian 6.0: 6.0.10 released

2014-07-19 Thread Neil McGovern
The Debian Projecthttp://www.debian.org/ Updated Debian 6.0: 6.0.10 released pr...@debian.org July 19th, 2014 http://www.debian.org/News/2014/20140719

Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:43:15AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Sune Vuorela wrote: The way is to put your time/money where your mouth is and provide the code. Asking others to do all the work is not the way forward in OSS. I highly doubt you can call _me_ someone who does not do work in

Bug#751767: blt breaks python-matplotlib

2014-06-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 03:00:36PM +0200, Martin Lutz wrote: after upgrading blt to version 2.4z-9 the package python-matplotlib becomes unusable. Ditto the package 'look' and presumeably quite a bit of stuff that uses python-tk. It seems that the lastest upload of blt ships

Re: New project goal: Get rid of Berkeley DB (post jessie)

2014-06-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:49:52AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: So, do I understand well that it's your view that just linking with AGPLv3 make it mandatory to re-license using AGPLv3? Is there such a clause in the AGPLv3 license? No, it's required to re-licence it to AGPLv3, or an AGPLv3

Bug#751767: blt breaks python-matplotlib

2014-06-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 03:00:36PM +0200, Martin Lutz wrote: after upgrading blt to version 2.4z-9 the package python-matplotlib becomes unusable. Ditto the package 'look' and presumeably quite a bit of stuff that uses python-tk. It seems that the lastest upload of blt ships

Debian 6 debuts its long term support period

2014-06-16 Thread Neil McGovern
The Debian Projecthttp://www.debian.org/ Debian 6 debuts its long term support periodpr...@debian.org June 16th, 2014 http://www.debian.org/News/2014/20140616

Re: 7.6 and 6.0.10

2014-06-05 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:53:21PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Giving ourselves the usual pre-window to get organised, some suggested dates would be: - June 28/29 If it's early on the 29th, that's ok. Otherwise I'll be away. I could do it at a push though - July 5/6 Running a half

Re: 7.6 and 6.0.10

2014-06-05 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:53:21PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Giving ourselves the usual pre-window to get organised, some suggested dates would be: - June 28/29 If it's early on the 29th, that's ok. Otherwise I'll be away. I could do it at a push though - July 5/6 Running a half

Re: 7.6 and 6.0.10

2014-06-05 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:53:21PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Giving ourselves the usual pre-window to get organised, some suggested dates would be: - June 28/29 If it's early on the 29th, that's ok. Otherwise I'll be away. I could do it at a push though - July 5/6 Running a half

Re: 7.6 and 6.0.10

2014-06-05 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:53:21PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Giving ourselves the usual pre-window to get organised, some suggested dates would be: - June 28/29 If it's early on the 29th, that's ok. Otherwise I'll be away. I could do it at a push though - July 5/6 Running a half

Re: [Debconf-team] Call for Help: DebConf14 Bursaries Team

2014-05-13 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 01:51:28AM -0700, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: We are assembling this year's Bursaries Team to help us rate the travel sponsorship and food/accommodation requests for DebConf14. We will follow most of the past years' procedures, always trying to improve on,

Bug#747290: Please display the new Code of Conduct

2014-05-07 Thread Neil McGovern
Tags: +patch Thanks On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 11:36:54AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 06 mai 14, 13:45:11, Brian Gupta wrote: All kidding aside, is there a plan to post the CoC, and make it easy to find from www.d.o? (Perhaps either in the About section, or on the about Debian page?)

Bug#747290: Please display the new Code of Conduct

2014-05-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:12:36PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: pDebian, the producers of the Debian system, have adopted […] Looks very odd to me. “The Debian Project” maybe? I copied that from the social contract, but that does sound better. Missing final dot. -i :) Both updated

Bug#747290: Please display the new Code of Conduct

2014-05-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 06:57:29PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: Hi, Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org wrote: pDebian, the producers of the Debian system, have adopted a code of conduct for paticipants to its mailinglists, IRC channels and other modes of communication within

Bug#747290: Please display the new Code of Conduct

2014-05-07 Thread Neil McGovern
Tags: +patch Thanks On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 11:36:54AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 06 mai 14, 13:45:11, Brian Gupta wrote: All kidding aside, is there a plan to post the CoC, and make it easy to find from www.d.o? (Perhaps either in the About section, or on the about Debian page?)

Bug#747290: Please display the new Code of Conduct

2014-05-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:12:36PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: pDebian, the producers of the Debian system, have adopted […] Looks very odd to me. “The Debian Project” maybe? I copied that from the social contract, but that does sound better. Missing final dot. -i :) Both updated

Bug#747290: Please display the new Code of Conduct

2014-05-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 06:57:29PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: Hi, Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org wrote: pDebian, the producers of the Debian system, have adopted a code of conduct for paticipants to its mailinglists, IRC channels and other modes of communication within

Re: Bug#747290: Please display the new Code of Conduct

2014-05-07 Thread Neil McGovern
Tags: +patch Thanks On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 11:36:54AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 06 mai 14, 13:45:11, Brian Gupta wrote: All kidding aside, is there a plan to post the CoC, and make it easy to find from www.d.o? (Perhaps either in the About section, or on the about Debian page?)

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