Re: F40 Change Proposal: Pytorch Release (Self-Contained)

On Thursday, January 11, 2024, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > == Benefit to Fedora == > > This change will introduce PyTorch, a high demand machine learning > framework, to Fedora. PyTorch is widely used for tasks such as image > and speech recognition, natural language processing, and other >

Re: Restricting automounting of uncommon filesystems?

On Saturday, July 22, 2023, Matthew Garrett wrote: > A discussion within Debian again brought up the problem that: > > 1) Automounting of removable media exposes the kernel to a lot of > untrusted input > 2) Kernel upstream are not terribly concerned with ensuring that kernel > filesystems are

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 06:18:23AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 3:48 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > > > > I was asked to weigh in on https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7215 as a > > > priority. Last time we talked about

Re: Looking for advice - ffmpeg-free and wf-recorder

On Sunday, December 18, 2022, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 18/12/2022 06:18, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > >> Could Fedora ship a shim library that exposed the same API and used >> dlopen() internally? >> > > I doubt. Lawyers will treat this as a patents

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

On Monday, December 12, 2022, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 11/12/2022 20:53, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> There's a PR at >> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/linux-firmware/pull-request/9 , and >> Intel folks seem receptive to the idea of removing at

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

On Friday, December 9, 2022, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 12:04 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > > > You only need network / wifi firmware blobs (although I'm sure they > > > are in themselves large) and then you can fetch anything else needed > > >

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

On Friday, December 9, 2022, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 12:04 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > > > You only need network / wifi firmware blobs (although I'm sure they > > > are in themselves large) and then you can fetch anything else needed > > >

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Daniel P. Berrangé said: > > On Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 07:59:20PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > > That would be very crazy, as you will have a degraded user experience > > > (laggy UI, wrong resolu

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 07:59:20PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Adam Williamson < > adamw...@fedoraproject.org> > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2022-12-

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 07:59:20PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Adam Williamson < > adamw...@fedoraproject.org> > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2022-12-

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2022-12-08 at 12:58 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > I've done a few passes, dropping a bunch of older firmware upstream > > that are no longer supported in any stable kernel release, also a > > bunch of de-dupe and linking of

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2022-12-08 at 12:58 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > I've done a few passes, dropping a bunch of older firmware upstream > > that are no longer supported in any stable kernel release, also a > > bunch of de-dupe and linking of

Re: Capstone (was: Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers)

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:11 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 10:31:24AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > capstone orphan, rebus, ret2libc 1 weeks > > ago > > [Affecting lots of packages] > > This is a disassembly library / framework used

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

On Wednesday, September 28, 2022, Clemens Lang wrote: > Hi, > > Michael J Gruber wrote: > > Understanding is helped greatly by communication, though. Legal answers >> such as "We can not" do not further this understanding, and "We can not >> and we can not tell you why" is not much better, but

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Sunday, July 10, 2022, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > drago01 wrote: > > > On Sunday, July 10, 2022, Kevin Kofler via devel < > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > >> drago01 wrote: > >

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Sunday, July 10, 2022, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > drago01 wrote: > > One thing which seems to be completely missing in the conversation is how > > this affects battery life. Having lower performance, means the CPU has to > > do

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

One thing which seems to be completely missing in the conversation is how this affects battery life. Having lower performance, means the CPU has to do more work / be in a higher power state for a longer time frame. ___ devel mailing list --

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Friday, May 27, 2022, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 26/05/2022 19:31, drago01 wrote: > >> But bundled libs and properly tested / certified vs dynamic linking and >> less testing / no certification. >> > > Bundled li

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Thursday, May 26, 2022, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 5/26/22 10:40, drago01 wrote: > >> Why would we do that? Is the build process really more important than >> shipping tested software? >> > > For Fedora? Yes. > > Fedora includes lots of untested (in the fo

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Thursday, May 26, 2022, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > On 5/26/22 11:06, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > >> 2. Are there ways that a non-TCK compliant version could be distributed? >> > > I would suggest phrasing that slightly differently: the version being > distributed could very well be fully

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

On Monday, October 18, 2021, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > Is it worth paying hundreds of MBytes of installer space, and the new > 2 GB minimum RAM to simply install Fedora? I'm not saying "discard > anaconda". I'm saying "be aware of some very real reasons the > installer has gotten so huge". And

Re: Fedora 34 90 second timeout in initrd / dbus ordering issue

On Thursday, July 29, 2021, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi Zbigniew, Justin, > > I assume you are familiar with $subject, also see e.g. : > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1976653 > > I have just come back from a week vacation and I see that this is > still not resolved, what is the

Re: SIMD-related package amd minimum supported instructions

On Friday, April 16, 2021, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > Hello, > > I have a dependency that is a C++ library for SIMD (called highway). This > library requires SSE4 as its minimum required instruction set ("Supported > targets: SSE4, AVX2, AVX-512, NEON (ARMv7 and v8), WASM SIMD."). However >

Re: F35 Change: "Fedora Linux" in /etc/os-release

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_Linux_in_os-release > > == Summary == > > "Fedora" is the name of our project. Our general-purpose Linux > distribution is "Fedora Linux". Let's refer to it that way in the OS itself. > > == Owner == > >

Re: New memory tester application potentially to replace memtest86+: PCMemTest

On Sunday, February 7, 2021, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 2/7/21 10:07 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I discovered today that there's a new replacement for memtest86+ that >> appears to even have UEFI support called PCMemTest[0]. >> > > It can only be an alternative, not a replacement,

Re: btrfs hash algorithm (should xxhash be the default?)

On Sunday, January 31, 2021, Matthew Miller wrote: > On my Intel i7 laptop, xxhash is a small but clear performance win over > crc32c: > > $ ./hash-speedtest 1000 > Block size: 4096 > Iterations: 1000 > Implementation: builtin > > NULL-NOP: cycles:

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

On Saturday, August 29, 2020, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Monday, August 10, 2020 9:52:42 AM MST Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:08 am, Michael Catanzaro > > wrote: > > > > > Zbigniew, do you agree that we should remove the script if and only > > > if it is generated by

Re: Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: Drop mod_php

On Saturday, July 11, 2020, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:43:59 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:38 PM John M. Harris Jr > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:31:08 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Friday, July 10, 2020, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 26.06.2020 16:42, Ben Cotton wrote: > > ** transparent compression: significantly reduces write amplification, > > improves lifespan of storage hardware > > What can you say about this?

Re: Btrfs by default, the compression option

On Friday, July 10, 2020, Zachary Lym wrote: > > Yes, it's completely reasonable to not do it. It might seem like a big > > change on its own, but Btrfs has had native compression for 10+ years, > > and at least three years for most all of the workloads at Facebook. So > > it's quite safe. > >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, Justin Forbes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 11:09, Michael Catanzaro > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30,

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Monday, June 29, 2020, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Monday, June 29, 2020 9:26:09 AM MST Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 09:59:52AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > > > > We cannot include ZFS in Fedora for legal reasons. Additionally, ZFS > is > > > > not really

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Saturday, June 27, 2020, Nicolas Mailhot via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Le samedi 27 juin 2020 à 10:47 +0200, Igor Raits a écrit : > > > > Do you run postgres, financial transactions and random blackouts on > > your laptop / workstation? If so, isn't it just for testing

Re: Has something changed with RPMS?

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, Adam Williamson wrote: > On June 1, 2020 7:13:51 p.m. PDT, Richard Shaw > wrote: > >I've noticed lately when doing mock builds that it takes a lot longer > >to > >install all the dependencies. Especially large -devel packages with > >tons of > >small files

Re: Proposal: Revise FESCo voting policy

On Thursday, May 14, 2020, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:57 AM Kevin Kofler > wrote: > >> Abstaining means "I don't care", not "I feel uncomfortable with this >> change". >> > > I'm going to disagree with you here, specifically with regards to the "I > don't care" piece.

Re: URGENT: users prompted to upgrade to F32

On Saturday, February 15, 2020, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 05:14:57PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 18:37 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Users are being prompted to upgrade to F32. Anyone who knows how to > fix > > > this, please

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:25 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:09 AM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > > > - facebook is working on making oomd something that just works for > > everyone, they are in the final rounds of canonicalizing the > > configuration so that it can

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

On Monday, January 6, 2020, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:43 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableFSTrimTimer >> >> == Summary == >> Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly, >> which in turn executes `/usr/sbin/fstrim

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 7:32 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 4:48 AM drago01 wrote: > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 4, 2020, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 2:33 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > >> w

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

On Saturday, January 4, 2020, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 2:33 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > > > On 03.01.2020 22:27, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > and servers... > > > > Admins will be very happy when such user-space killer will kill for > > example PgSQL database server

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

On Friday, January 3, 2020, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:19 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom > > > > == Summary == > > Install earlyoom package, and enable it by default. This will cause > > the kernel oomkiller to trigger

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

On Saturday, December 7, 2019, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 18:51 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > > After reading this thread I think this is a more serious problem than > just > > this package. I had "assumed" modules were just normal, so I didn't > > question them being

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Build Python 3 to statically link with libpython3.8.a for better performance

On Sunday, November 10, 2019, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > > How is statically linked libpython hack? It's just a different way to do > > it, isn't it? > > It means you are shipping 2 copies of the Python interpreter, one > statically > linked into the python3 binary and

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

On Wednesday, October 16, 2019, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:05 AM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 6:26:31 PM MST Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > given that we're talking about the need to migrate defaults > > > > To clarify, that has not

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

On Wednesday, September 11, 2019, John M. Harris Jr. wrote: > On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:41:14 PM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel > wrote: > > On 9/10/19 7:55 AM, vvs vvs wrote: > > > > > Did I? I thought that I've said that I'm using x86_64 kernel right now > and > > > that I have my

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

On Monday, July 22, 2019, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/x86-64_micro-architecture_update > > == Summary == > Fedora currently uses the original K8 micro-architecture (without > 3DNow! and other AMD-specific parts) as the baseline for its > x86_64 architecture. This

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Switch RPMs to zstd compression

On Thursday, May 30, 2019, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/30/19 1:56 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:40 AM Daniel Mach wrote: >> >>> >>> Dne 30. 05. 19 v 0:05 Neal Gompa napsal(a): >>> I'm pretty sure this would break DeltaRPMs, since none of the drpm software

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

On Saturday, May 4, 2019, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 12:32 +0200, drago01 via desktop-devel-list > wrote: > > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/master > > > > Master / slave relation is just one of the possible meanings but not > >

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

On Saturday, May 4, 2019, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 01:28 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > > Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Carmen Bianca Bakker > > : > > > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > > > [...] > > > > If we agree that the "master"

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

On Friday, April 26, 2019, Michael Gratton wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 09:02, Carmen Bianca Bakker < > car...@carmenbianca.eu> wrote: > >> Defaults and conventions matter. One reason I like GNOME so much is >> because the defaults are amazing. And while "master" is a bit of a >> sucky

Re: What does delaying F31 mean for packagers/users?

On Tuesday, November 27, 2018, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:51 AM Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > As came up in another part of the earlier thread, I think this is an > > opportunity for Modularity. For those things like GNOME that want to > > rev mid-release, if they shipped

Re: Proposal: delay F31 release to work out infrastructure and lifecycle challenges

On Monday, November 26, 2018, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 09:50:33AM -0500, Paul Frields wrote: > > Here's the summary from the page, which proposes we pause the release > > after F30 for these efforts: > > I know it was a big time-off holiday week in the US, but I expected a

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, Laura Abbott wrote: > On 11/14/18 5:29 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:32:14PM +0100, Adam Samalik wrote: >> >>> Do we have any user data about what "stability" means to users and on >>> what >>> different levels that can be achieved? Is

Re: Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software

On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to me, it > >> emphasizes more clearly that "appropriately"

Re: Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software

On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to me, it > >> emphasizes more clearly that "appropriately"

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

I simply forgot to vote this time - saw the announcement was busy with other things and then the elections where already over. Having a longer voting period would have helped but I am not sure if others simply missed it as well. ___ devel mailing list

Re: Firefox "Looking Glass" fiasco

On Friday, December 22, 2017, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2017-12-22 at 07:01 -0500, Solomon Peachy wrote: > > > > Especially since Fedora's maintainers *already* compile it, including > > changing some of the defaults. What's a couple more? > > AIUI, Mozilla

Re: Important: NSS + Firefox + Thunderbird + Seamonkey + Icecat + Xulrunner

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 01/21/2017 04:15 PM, Kai Engert wrote: >> On Sat, 2017-01-21 at 15:47 +0100, Christian Dersch wrote: > >> The current Firefox 50.x will go unsupported on Tuesday, replaced by Firefox >> 51. >> Usually new

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 01/06/2017 08:07 AM, drago01 wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com> >> wrote: >>> On 01/06/2017 01:08 AM, drago01 wrote: >&

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 01/06/2017 01:08 AM, drago01 wrote: >> >> Two suggestions were raised as alternatives to the container approach: >> >> * Switch to using the Debian style of multi-arch lay

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

On Thursday, January 5, 2017, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 01/05/2017 11:03 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > # Overview > > > > For many years, Fedora has supported multilib by carrying > parallel-installable > > libraries in /usr/lib[64]. This was necessary for a very long

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support

On Thursday, January 5, 2017, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > # Overview > > For many years, Fedora has supported multilib by carrying > parallel-installable > libraries in /usr/lib[64]. This was necessary for a very long time in > order to > support 32-bit applications running

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

On Friday, December 9, 2016, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 03:19:58PM -0500, langdon wrote: > > >Langdon is sitting right next to me right now and I'm going to tag him > > >in for more on Modularity. > [...] > > them. We can also decide when a

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 07:41:13PM +0100, drago01 wrote: >> Which problem are you trying to solve with those proposals? > > From my *other* other mail: > > * predictable calendar da

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Trying to make this idea a little more concrete. Here's two suggestions > for how it might work. These are strawman ideas -- please provide > alternates, poke holes, etc. And particularly from a QA and rel-eng >

Re: Nautilus usability

On Monday, November 28, 2016, Py wrote: > > > > >>> Have you ever made Nautilus copy/move a huge directory tree and then > >>> started a similar task for other directories while Nautilus was > >still > >>> working on the first task? > >> > >> A directory containing 10,000 1MiB

Re: Restart of gnome-shell rejceted in a F25 Wayland session

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > I'm running F25 inside a wayland session, and for curiosity i tried to > restart gnome-shell with Alt+F2 / r. > > This is rejected by a popup "Restart is not available on Wayland". > > Really? Yes. That would

Re: F24 - gnome3 - hidpi any better?

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2016-05-10 at 17:37 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Nikos Roussos >> wrote: >> >> > On 05/10/2016 03:12 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: >> > > Hi,

Re: Plans for Node.js 6.x

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > OK folks, it's Bad Decision Time. > > Today, Node.js 6.0 was released. This is a significant ABI-breaking release, > which means there is no guarantee that existing modules will work with it at > all.[1] > > Better

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Eric Griffith wrote: > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Michael Catanzaro > wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 14:19 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> > That seems to be a bit over-dramatic. gnome-initial-setup works

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:14:14 +0200 > drago01 <drag...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> No. This line does not tell you much. >> >> Easy way to check for DRi3 is to run "glxinfo|grep buffer_age&

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 09:20:00 +0200 > drago01 <drag...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is not true. While the plan is to get stop using device specific >> ddx drivers >> you do not nee

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratoch...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:39:33 +0200, drago01 wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote: >> > On 04/02/2016 12:20 AM, drago01 wrote: >>

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote: > On 04/02/2016 12:20 AM, drago01 wrote: >> >> Its not broken with Firefox or LibreOffice ... it can by design not work >> remotely. This issue has been fixed in xserver git by transparently >>

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:43 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 21:30 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:22:31 +0200, Tim Landscheidt wrote: >> > Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> > > Then it was probably broken by this

Re: 4.4 rebase coming to F23 soon

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > > On 02/24/2016 05:22 PM, Laura Abbott wrote: >> >> On 02/18/2016 05:51 PM, Laura Abbott wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> 4.4.2 is currently building and should be in updates-testing soon. As >>> usual, >>> please

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Fedora support for Vulkan

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Peter T. wrote: >> On Tue, 2016-02-16 at 11:34 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> >> DRI3 is a prerequisite, yes. The F23 builds of the intel driver had it >> disabled until fairly recently, but this update should sort you out: >> >>

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NewRpmDBFormat > > Change owner(s): > * Florian Festi < ffesti AT redhat DOT com > > > > Change format of the RPM

Re: Specs using %define

> bless (drago01) > ghex (dodji, drago01, kalev) -> fixed in rawhide. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Requesting provenpackager intervention

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Petr Stodulka wrote: > Hi folks, > > can any provenpackager change dependency in meld package for F22? There's > dependency on package > python-gobject (which doesn't exist) and there should be pygobject2 probably. > I already filled >

Re: RFC: switching from grubby to grub2-mkconfig

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Andrew Lutomirski <l...@mit.edu> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 7:05 AM, drago01 <drag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Andrew Lutomirski <l...@mit.edu> wrote: >>> Since the old proposal to have the bootloa

Re: RFC: switching from grubby to grub2-mkconfig

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > Since the old proposal to have the bootloader automatically enumerate > boot options never went anywhere, can we do the next best thing? > > Specifically, these days grub2-mkconfig appears to produce output > that's

Re: RFC: switching from grubby to grub2-mkconfig

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Tomasz Torcz <to...@pipebreaker.pl> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 06:25:09PM +0100, drago01 wrote: >> >> Well mkconfig can produce a configuration that does not actually work >> >> when grub2 itself gets updated (in which case

Re: wayland in rawhide

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 14:34 +, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> [1] Apparently middle mouse buttons are rare. I'm in an office > > This seems an odd assertion [...] Its not odd ... its plain wrong. -- devel mailing

Re: monitor setting in gnome using new randr 1.5 option

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Stephen Adler wrote: > Thanks, > > > On 11/11/2015 10:34 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> On Wed, 2015-11-11 at 09:50 -0500, Stephen Adler wrote: >>> >>> Guys, >>> >>> I have 3 MST type 4K monitor hooked up to my PC and I've been

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.11.2015 um 22:17 schrieb Rex Dieter: >> >> Felix Miata wrote: >> >>> For those without >>> SSE2, Plasma 5 is completely unusable, but OK with any of the lightweigh >> >> >> . >> >> Qt5 (Gui and

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: > > > Am 08.11.2015 um 09:47 schrieb drago01: >> >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 07.11.2015 um

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: > > > Am 07.11.2015 um 20:36 schrieb drago01: >> >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> the point is

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: > > > Am 07.11.2015 um 19:27 schrieb drago01: >> >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> maybe you did

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.11.2015 um 19:01 schrieb Kevin Kofler: >> >> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> well, who's to say that we stay forever on a level of CPU >>> feature-support while there are instruction sets available for a whole

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Final Release Candidate 9 (RC9) Available Now!

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Jan Kurik wrote: > I do not want to lower the seriousness of this announcement and request for > additional testing. However, did not we break the record in number of RCs > before a release ? Maybe but we are still on single digit RC ;) --

Re: make unmaintained ??

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2015 12:53, "Jan Kratochvil" wrote: >> >> On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:07:47 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> > I built 4.1 for rawhide. If that checks out to be OK, I

Re: no DPMS on HDMI output while screen lock

On Monday, October 19, 2015, Thomas Meyer wrote: > Am 19.10.2015 10:56 nachm. schrieb Martin Cigorraga < > martincigorr...@gmail.com > >: > > > > Hi Thomas > > Hi Martin, > > > > > I think it might be associated with the

Re: Packaging of PlayOnLinux

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> Dne 14.10.2015 v 16:50 Bastien Nocera napsal(a): >> > If the application cannot work without downloading anything, or being >> > supplied >> > third-party (sometimes proprietary)

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bastien Nocera wrote: >> 2 distributions add slightly different versions of the same functionality >> -> incompatible > > I said that carrying more feature patches makes it "more likely" that > packages from other

Re: F23 -> Rawhide upgrade fails to start GDM

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Richard Bradfield <bradf...@fstab.me> wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Sep 2015, at 17:11, drago01 wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote: >> > On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:37:58 +0100 >> >

Re: Bugzilla accepts no § character in the password

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 15:15 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote: >> Hi, >> filed bug 1267005 against Bugzilla, concernng this PW problem with >> special character "§" > > It's not ASCII, which may be the reason? Not a

Re: F23: "Gnome on Wayland" as login option: some problems with nautilus

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Joachim Backes <joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de> wrote: > On 28.09.2015 18:18, drago01 wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Joachim Backes >> <joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de> wrote: >>> >>> Hi f23 testers

Re: llvm 3.7 for rawhide and then f23

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Dave Johansen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> >> On Sun, 2015-09-20 at 21:00 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: >> > On 9/20/15, David Airlie wrote: >> > > It's llvm, there

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Matej Stuchlik wrote: > [...] > When it comes to python3, one way to shave off ~9MiB from python3-libs, and > possibly quite a bit more overall, would be to not install both optimized and > unoptimized bytecode, as we do now, but just the

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