Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Arthur Țițeică
Hi, În ziua de Joi 27 Martie 2014, la 23:49:45, Thomas Bächler a scris: And here is my problem: Audit is enabled by default and must be explicitly disabled by the admin. This is a showstopper for me! There is no kernel option to configure audit to be disabled by default (as far as I am aware)

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Arthur Țițeică art...@psw.ro wrote: Hi, În ziua de Joi 27 Martie 2014, la 23:49:45, Thomas Bächler a scris: And here is my problem: Audit is enabled by default and must be explicitly disabled by the admin. This is a showstopper for me! There is no kernel

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Mauro Santos
On 28-03-2014 10:54, Arthur Țițeică wrote: It raises a question mark that the two most important components of a system (systemd and the kernel) have security measures disabled. People in this thread like to put out the over subjective lightweight factor but still there are no bug

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Micay
On 28/03/14 06:54 AM, Arthur Țițeică wrote: Hi, În ziua de Joi 27 Martie 2014, la 23:49:45, Thomas Bächler a scris: And here is my problem: Audit is enabled by default and must be explicitly disabled by the admin. This is a showstopper for me! There is no kernel option to configure audit to

Re: [arch-general] Must use nomodeset to enable boot [SOLVED]

2014-03-28 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 16 Mar 2014, Anthony Campbell wrote: I have a Thinkpad T42 which has been happily running Arch for many months. Its video is AMD/ATI. After a recent upgrade I started getting the dreaded blank page on boot. Googling showed a lot of discussion of this on various distros including Arch.

[arch-general] svntogit stuck

2014-03-28 Thread Armin K.
In case some of the people responsible for it are reading this: svn2git is stuck for 2 days without any changes although the packages are being upgraded. I can't even examine changes for packages through al.o/packages anymore. -- Note: My last name is not Krejzi.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Bigby James
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:54:44PM +0200, Arthur Țițeică wrote: It raises a question mark that the two most important components of a system (systemd and the kernel) have security measures disabled. People in this thread like to put out the over subjective lightweight factor but still

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Mario Rugiero
I'll answer random things I read in the thread. First, I don't think the lightweight part of the philosophy is about using stock packages, as that's implied in the KISS philosophy, you don't need to stress it any more than that. The same KISS philosophy says one should try to avoid complexity

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Bigby James bigby.ja...@crepcran.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:01:06PM +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: I'm very much for cleaning up the kernel config from things that factually are useless. Factually useless is not a subjective standard by which to

Re: [arch-general] per error

2014-03-28 Thread Scott Lawrence
Looks like you want to install perl-html-parser. On Fri, 28 Mar 2014, message wrote: Readers, 'get_iplayer' is a program to extract media from BBC F(/tr)ash streams. After installation of the program, obtained the following error: Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm in @INC (you may need to

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Bigby James
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 03:05:25PM +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: Well, they came in when people argued in favor of them. [0] [0] https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2013-November/034385.html That entire thread regards the userspace packages and the kludge of a policy that are

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Bigby James bigby.ja...@crepcran.com wrote: So you think it's justifiable to expect someone you don't know to spend more time than necessary performing a tedious and monotonous task, because maybe, someday, it might make your life slightly more convenient? What

[arch-general] per error

2014-03-28 Thread message
Readers, 'get_iplayer' is a program to extract media from BBC F(/tr)ash streams. After installation of the program, obtained the following error: Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm in @INC (you may need to install the HTML::Entities module) (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl

[arch-general] Java 8

2014-03-28 Thread Caleb Cushing
I'm just wondering what the plan is, if any, for getting java 8 packages into arch? -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.com Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=xenoterracide%40gmail.comctz=America/Chicago

Re: [arch-general] svntogit stuck

2014-03-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.03.2014 14:29, schrieb Armin K.: In case some of the people responsible for it are reading this: svn2git is stuck for 2 days without any changes although the packages are being upgraded. I can't even examine changes for packages through al.o/packages anymore. It seems the script

Re: [arch-general] What's with F# and mono?

2014-03-28 Thread Squall Lionheart
Great, there is hope then :) Do you happen to remember where you found that add-on for MonoDevelop? I can't seem to find one that can be downloaded AND plugged into MD. I'm pretty sure that when I first set it up, I installed it from the Add-in manager -- Language Bindings, but it's no

[arch-general] package ncurses lacks c++ support

2014-03-28 Thread lx
In core/ncurses, we have c++ wrapper header files like cursesw.h, but the corresponding library was not included. Actually, gnu ncurses itself only builds a static libncurses++.a. Is there any need to do some extra work to add a libncurses++.so to the package?

Re: [arch-general] per error

2014-03-28 Thread Marshall Cleave
Readers, 'get_iplayer' is a program to extract media from BBC F(/tr)ash streams. After installation of the program, obtained the following error: Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm in @INC (you may need to install the HTML::Entities module) (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Bigby James
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:01:06PM +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: I'm very much for cleaning up the kernel config from things that factually are useless. Factually useless is not a subjective standard by which to measure things. If you don't personally configure the features in question by

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Genes Lists
On 03/28/2014 09:12 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: ... Security needs to be simple, predictable and well understood. It needs to be provably correct and easily audited. SELinux is none of these things. I don't really understand why a distribution striving for simplicity would ever enable it. I

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.03.2014 17:11, schrieb Martti Kühne: On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Bigby James bigby.ja...@crepcran.com wrote: So you think it's justifiable to expect someone you don't know to spend more time than necessary performing a tedious and monotonous task, because maybe, someday, it might

Re: [arch-general] svntogit stuck

2014-03-28 Thread Joel Teichroeb
packages.git looks fine to me now, but community.git is still stuck.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Arthur Țițeică
Hi, În ziua de Vineri 28 Martie 2014, la 12:54:44, Arthur Țițeică a scris: As a side note I will try to test the worst case scenario in the Phoronix tests -- Postmark, and post the results here. I managed to finish testing. As said above I picked up this test because it was the only one

Re: [arch-general] Java 8

2014-03-28 Thread Guillaume ALAUX
On 28 March 2014 18:30, Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just wondering what the plan is, if any, for getting java 8 packages into arch? -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.com Calendar:

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Micay
On 28/03/14 02:36 PM, Genes Lists wrote: On 03/28/2014 09:12 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: ... Security needs to be simple, predictable and well understood. It needs to be provably correct and easily audited. SELinux is none of these things. I don't really understand why a distribution striving