RE: What is the bitter book?

2005-06-28 Thread James Mock
Brent, This servant offers one perspective on the ramifications of this verse: If we take Baha'u'llah literally when He says to be detached from all things, we put things into a different perspective. Likewise, when we disregard all things current amongst men, we perceive that all that is

RE: What is the bitter book?

2005-06-28 Thread Susan Maneck
She, unconsciously, holds to the just world theory. In 1991 when I had a heart attack and in 2001 when I had a stroke, she subtly sent the message to me that if I only followed Jesus, these bad things would not be happening to me. She is convinced that I am having these bad things happen to me

bahais and divorce

2005-06-28 Thread Gilberto Simpson
Is this statistic about Bahai divorce rates accurate? Were there any follow-up studies done or alternative explanations for the statistic? Pecae Gilberto . from http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/3016/divorce.htm This Article written and posted by Juan Cole in the talk.religion.bahai

RE: bahais and divorce

2005-06-28 Thread Susan Maneck
Is this statistic about Bahai divorce rates accurate? Were there any follow-up studies done or alternative explanations for the statistic? Dear Gilberto, There was a study done during this period which indicated that the American Baha'i divorce rate was no better than that of the society around

Re: bahais and divorce

2005-06-28 Thread Don Calkins
At 12:01 -0400 6/28/05, Gilberto Simpson wrote, quoting Juan Cole: An internal Baha'i household survey done in 1987 found that the divorce rate in the U.S. Baha'i community was higher than that in American society as a whole. The report was never released to the public. I think it may have

RE: bahais and divorce

2005-06-28 Thread Susan Maneck
Baha'i divorces in the mid 80's became an epidemic. As a result, the compilation from the Writings on Discouraging Divorce was sent to all local Assemblies. Dear Don, That much is true. The Universal House of Justice itself demanded that there be more deepening on this subject. While I'm sure

Re: bahais and divorce

2005-06-28 Thread Brian Williams
Far far more of what we see in the Baha'i Faith with reference to social conduct mirrors our surrounding society. While the Baha'i Faith in general has adopted the need to create a new world order, a new conduct that has the appearance of something more unique in our Baha'i communities still

RE: bahais and divorce

2005-06-28 Thread Don Calkins
At 17:32 -0500 6/28/05, Susan Maneck wrote: in my opinion, the reason for the spike in divorces in the 80's was primarily a result of the influence of secular feminism. Ooh. Now you are really asking for a fight! So if Baha'i women hadn't insisted on taking the notion of equality of women and

Re: bahais and divorce

2005-06-28 Thread Don Calkins
At 16:56 -0600 6/28/05, Brian Williams wrote: Far far more of what we see in the Baha'i Faith with reference to social conduct mirrors our surrounding society. While the Baha'i Faith in general has adopted the need to create a new world order, a new conduct that has the appearance of