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The Quran actually mentions [*87.19*] The scriptures of* Ibrahim* and
Musa. after quoting / paraphrasing from the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suhuf_Ibrahim
There are also some interesting apocryphal, pseudepigraphal works
associated with Abraham:
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*Subject:* Re: Religious rejection of politics
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My sense is that Parliamentary systems with proportional representation
encourage sincere
. (Merkel
is now trying to wriggle out of that because most Germans think this is
nuts.)
Again, there is no perfect voting system. It's just a matter of choosing
your cleanest dirty shirt.
Best wishes,
Ian
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. It's just a matter of choosing
your cleanest dirty shirt.
Best wishes,
Ian
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*Subject:* Re: Religious rejection
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Ian Kluge iankl...@netbistro.com wrote:
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In Canada we have multiple parties too - and wag the dog is precisely what
we get unless we have a majority government.When we didn't - and we
didn't until
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I'm curious if there is any specific guidance as to when a dream is just
a dream or something more. In Islam there is said that Shaytan can't
imitate the form of Muhammad (saaws) in a dream. so if you see him it must
be a true dream.
See
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Has anyone ever read in the Writings anything to the effect that God
created us because He was alone?
There is an Islamic hadith qudsi where God says I was
limits in slaying; surely he is
aided.
and others.
But in terms of the second question, of course The rain falls on the just
and unjust alike. .
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On 12/11/2011 7:59 PM, Gilberto Simpson wrote
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Is the letter available to the public online?
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I think perennialism leaves us
in the Dark Ages, but triumphalism is not good either. I was rather
pleased to
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On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D.
I am telling you what your Muslim texts say. That's all.
Ibn Ishaq and the other sources you referenced aren't Muslim texts.
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You are being very selective again. Very convenient. Doesn't surprise me.
Oh, sorry, I didn't realize that ibn Ishaq was a Jewish anti-Muslim text.
I
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So, now you just want to deny all the raid episodes altogether?
No. You made a specific claim that Muhammad had the Muslims attack
defenseless caravans in
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Matt should definitely answer for himself, but I thought your response
was really a good example.
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Please don't misinterpret the Teaching of my religion.
I think that
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يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلَا
يَقْرَبُوا الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هَٰذَا ۚ وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ
عَيْلَةً
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Oh, that's interesting. Someone from Atlanta steals your stuff. You can't
find him. You just go and steal some stuff from a person who is traveling to
or
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I think Baha'is are only true Muslims.
So if Bahais are true Muslims what should Sunnis and Shias call themselves?
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raid of a caravan on Muhammad’s order and why
one would term this the origin of war as the essence of Islam.
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I don't really enjoy Islam-Bahai polemics either but if someone says
something which seems disparaging, it is hard to let it by without comment.
Maybe if the group could agree to a clear set of guidelines for conduct (no
personal attacks, content should be relevant to
to
Nakhlah and lie in wait for the Quraysh.’ (Ibn Ishaq, page 286)
So basically Ibn Ishaq agrees that Nakhlah was intended as a reconnaissance
mission.
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From “Fascist
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For more on Geller and Robert Spencer
http://www.loonwatch.com/
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The Bahai Faith clearly endorses the military actions of Muhammad and
the early Muslims (for example, the section on Muhammad in Some
Answered Questions) or the actions of Imam Husayn on the battlefield.
And we've already discussed the concept of righteous warfare which
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Just warfare is in the context of collective security, in order to stop an
aggressor.
So is jihad when properly understood. That's actually the point of
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On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D.
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Raiding a trading caravan is an offensive war.
Are you saying that caravans were raided in the time of Muhammad under
his command?
What `Abdu'i-Baha is
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Actually, there were a series of raids on Meccan caravans in the first 1-2
years of hijrah; and one of them occurred during the forbidden month of
Rajab
.
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Was somebody else approving the raids?
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iskandar@gmail.com
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I am just stating the facts. You draw your own conclusions. So, the raids
were ordered by Muhammad himself. Right? The Baha'i concept of Manifestation
of
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Here's what I was referring to:
Directives from the Guardian
144: PACIFISM (Bahá’í View of)
“With reference to the absolute pacifists, or conscientious objectors
to war; their attitude, judged from the Bahá’í standpoint is quite
anti-social and due to its exaltation
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So is Shoghi Effendi saying that when the previous religions are
reborn they remain recognizably distinct or is he saying they are all
reborn as the Bahai Faith?
Or to mention a different kind of model, have you ever read Martin
:Lings, What is Sufism? or any of the
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When Susan initially said I was no longer welcome I thought the
response was excessive but I basically assumed that I would eventually
be removed. But when I kept getting e-mails from the list I didn't
know what to think. (Did Susan change her mind? Did Mark disagree
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Can we agree that personal attacks and veiled threats are definitely
inappropriate for the list?
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Be advised and forewarned: the gloves are off.
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Also, the Bahai Faith has Imams, (at least in the narrowest sense).
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But Islam has Mullahs, Moftis, Akhunds, Ayatollahs, Imams, etc. They are
sort of priests.
Not
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When I say narrowest sense I meant the 11/12 people who according to
the Bahai Faith / 12-er Shiism were the authentic successors of
Muhammad (saaws).
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Also, the Bahai
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Is there a specific ayatollah who has said it is permissible to attack
non-combatant civilians in jihad?
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Generally speaking
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Interesting historical note is that Tamil Tigers were actually the
modern pioneers of the suicide attack.
But yes, definitions of terrorism can be sticky and conversations can
get sloppy if things aren't defined carefully.
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Susan
and
Iraqis, I cannot remember the details.
Firouz
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Is there a specific ayatollah who has said it is permissible to attack
non-combatant civilians in jihad?
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According to Wikipedia the first suicide attack by the Tamil Tigers
was in 1987. So yes,you are right that the Beruit bombing was
earlier. Still many of the descriptions of the issue I've been finding
give the Tamil Tigers credit for perfecting the suicide attack and
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Gilberto Simpson wrote saying that he agrees with
Matt Haase matthewhaa...@gmail.com
Collective guilt is such a fascinating concept to me. This idea that
people
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Dear Khazeh,
At least on my side, I think your posts tend to have a unifying spirit
(or at least a clarifying one) which often allow conversations to end
on a positive note without needing a response.
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If a new prophet is not making open claim to prophethood, doesn't
that mean they will still follow the shariah of Muhammad?
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Muslims have closed the doors of the
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So pointing out historical events is Demonising muslims?
How you exaggerate. All i said was that these things point to a need for
renewal and change. Where did I
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I think you are misunderstanding the point.
Except for that link which mentioned Bahais in Pakistan raping Muslim
refugees, nobody was implying that Bahais are currently mistreating
Muslims (although you have to admit that's a pretty big exception).
The main point was
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What kind of renewal and change did you have in mind?
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Don't most of the subscribers to this list love and believe in
Muhammad as a noble Manifestation of God and believe that the Quran is
the absolutely authentic word of God?
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Atheist Challenge,
I think you may be confused on a couple of points. It doesn't make
sense that you should single out Muslims on this list. I would
recommend that you look at what the Bahai Faith's teachings are
regarding the Quran and the Bible. According to the
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Who are you talking to here?
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Unfortunately religion becomes perverted after time and you *do* get higher
incidences of priests doing silly things as I was
. But
neither Atheist nor Matt seem to be using Bahais as a shield and I
don't see why it would apply to them.
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Who do you think.
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if that is the religion you really believe
to be from God to not have yet been corrupted to still be held sacred and
true. Otherwise these are just empty words.
Exactly.
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I'm
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I would also suggest that it isn't purely a spiritual question but
that also takes a certain amount of knowledge about the world and
intellectual skill (and God will forgive if it is not there).
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Obviously its not that concrete but these are CLEAR signs from God that a
religion is decaying...
WHen the universal house of justice begins to take up muslims
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Baha'is are people, Muslims are people. People are not perfect, they make
mistakes. To think that belonging to a particular group magically makes it
impossible
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Ok. That being the case do you witness old religions of the distant past
like
of the wali but can be annulled without it. So I would want to see a
clearer statement on how Shia define the limits of the ummah.
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On 21 Dec 2010 at 22:29, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
And maybe even
and we find what we like and
take it home to eat it for a tasty treat or a moments of temporaty
satisfaction.
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Today Gilberto Simpson gilberto.simp...@gmail.com wrote:
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I guess
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wrote:
Baha'u'llahs explanation
it will begin.
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Yes, that is part of what I was alluding to. Even
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Sunnis and Shias obviously disagree with one another on specific
points. And maybe even on a popular level there may be a certain
amount of conflict and tension between the two communities. But if you
look to some of the most respected voices speak about the other
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Interesting. The mature and deapening of ideas is rather difficult when you
have priests telling you to kill infidels, and declare holy war on other
countries,
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Ok. That being the case do you witness old religions of the distant past
like the Abrahamic religion persisting today, possessing saints and
followers who are
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On 19 Dec 2010 at 1:03, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
A question which comes to mind is if the LSAs/NSA of a particular
region took on all the responsibilities of government would non-Bahais
be able
of the prophets is the same, one who is detached from
all else save him should be able to come upon the revelation Swift as a
twinkling of the eye (that is from ruhi book 2 I think).
Good luck.
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You also said dearest Gilberto
**I'm going to give more weight to what scholars from Darul-uloom or from
Al-Azhar**
I beg of you on my knees: do not give weight to scholars qua scholars. Give
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Again Firouz said
And we don't think non-Baha'is go to hell
Whereupon Gilberto replied:
That's not exactly true. Isn't recognizing the Manifestation for the current
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Iskandar,
The point which I don't think you are seeing is that all the prophets
would have had special things about them which distinguish them from
one another. Adam was the first prophet. Moses is said to have spoken
to God directly. Joseph was said to be exceedingly
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Again, if you go back to Khazeh's and Seena Fazel's interesting paper,
he qutoes Juan Cole
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That's interesting. There are actually many different Sufi teaching
stories of grammarians who get stuck in similar predicaments. I wonder
if that's the original source.
In any case, what do you think is the point of the story?
It is interesting that you are focusing
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It's one thing to say that Prophets have similarities and have differences.
But, it's quite another thing to quote a hadith that purportedly says
Muhammad
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A couple of things:
The Bahai Faith also divides humanity into believers and non-believers.
I'm not going to speak for Shias but certainly know of Sunnis who
accept Shias as Muslims. You have no right to generalize about over a
billion people like that.
-There is not
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Hi Gilberto,
Even though Baha'is may talk about Baha'is and non-Baha'is, we still believe
in equality of rights for all humans. All have equal rights and
humanly possible) there are orthodox Muslims who will say
that Manifestations will keep coming and are alive today even during
this period when Bahais say that Manifestions will not appear.
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The Baha'i
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All the earth is a masjid (place of prostration)
So why Muslim bother to build masjids? Specially the one near World
Trade Center in NYC?
Best regards,
Firouz
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Again, if you go back to Khazeh's and Seena Fazel's interesting paper,
he qutoes Juan Cole in a work of *his* on the Concept of the
Manifestation in the Bahai Faith:
Therefore in one sense, the Qur'ánic title of khátam al-nabiyyín (seal
of the prophets) implies that
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None of the ahadith that you quote are categorical. If you read them
carefully, most (or all) of them are dubious at best.
Perhaps according to you, but
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That's one of the arguments that some Muslims make.
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With regard to the Seal of the Prophets
Did Baha'u'llah refer to Himself
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Give me a break, Gilberto. Just give me a break.
You were quotiing hadith in which Muhammad said that God gave gave him
things such as a pithy speech,
.
Tim
All good art is about something deeper than it admits.
--Roger Ebert
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This is the hadith that you quoted:
* The Holy Prophet (PBUH) observed: God has bestowed upon me six
favors which the former Prophets did not enjoy:
I
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And from a Muslim perspective, the textual support for the finality of
Muhammad's messengership and prophethood is in an analagous way clear,
strong, varied, persuasive and compelling. At times, when Bahais talk
about it, it is framed as a character defect.
Everybody
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And from a Muslim perspective, the textual support for the finality of
Muhammad's messengership and prophethood is in an analagous way clear,
strong, varied, persuasive and compelling
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All the earth is a masjid (place of prostration)
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* The Holy Prophet (PBUH) observed: I am the last in line of the
prophets of God and my Masjid is the last Masjid
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Also, the point is that *collectively* the meaning is clear. EVEN IF
khatm in the Quran doesn't mean last and EVEN IF you nitpick at
one example which uses some poetic license, you still have over a
dozen texts which say last with different wording. At this point, I
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It isn't a scientific demographic statement. It is essentially a prophecy
based on the writings.
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Are you sure that is an accurate prediction? Inductive reasoning.
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The
Chinese invented paper money a thousand years ago during the Sung
Dynasty. Their economy not only prospered but they came closest to an
industrial revolution to any country until the British
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If you like science fiction some interesting works on religion and
Martians are Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles. (Also a short
story called The Fire Balloons and another which I think is called
The Man.) Also there is Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange
Land.
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At the risk of datingf myself, I grew up on the classics Asimov,
Bradbury, Heinlein, Clarke (definitely check out the 9 billion names
of God)...the Dune Books, Harlan Ellison when I was in an edgier mood.
The Dune series definitely deals a lot with religion in the
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As far as Heinlein's politics go, I don't think I had a concept of
libertarianism when I was reading him.
Me either, but I think Stranger in a Strange Land may have been the
only book I read. I
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Stephen, I have a question. Have you read all these Heinlein books you
are talking about or are you just passing along things from Wikipedia?
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On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Naison Jones naistrada...@gmail.com wrote:
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He Doeth whatsoever he willeth doesnt mean Baha'u'llah isnt informed that
God wouldnt raise a manifestation before that period especially considering
that
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Not necessarily. Being a bar or bat mitzvah means one is individually
responsible for ones obedience or disobedience to the commandments.
But that's not necessarily a condition for marriage. For example the
father could marry off his daughter when she is young.
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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Stephen Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Socially liberal, but morally conservative?
I suspect that socially liberal means feeling strongly about social
justice or social welfare and being ok with
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On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com wrote:
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No social conservative I know is for sexism, racism, slavery, segreation,
etc. you imply that you associate with the term social conservative.
It's a matter of
a government they find oppressive. Characteristic catchwords: personal
responsibility, big government, tax-and-spend, welfare state, privatization,
welfare cheats, rugged individualism, hard-working Americans, save you
millions of dollars.
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Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 11:00:57 AM
Subject: Re: Grave Influence
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On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Gray
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The most thoughtful discussion I've seen on the topic is:
The Young Marriage of cAishah: Mother of the Believers by Abû Imân
cAbd ar-Rahmân Robert Squires
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Polemics/aishah.html
The article makes a number of points and I'd encourage
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It seems like you are arguing about things which really aren't hard
and fast issues. On the one hand, if you have a small group of people
in society who have all or most of the political power (i.e. an
oligarchy) then you could definitely argue that they are, by
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I found the following blog which gives references
http://rabbimichaelsamuel.com/wisdom/jewish-sexual-ethics/
But the emphasis seems to be in an odd place. I mean, it seems to be
saying that sex doesn't even count as sex before 3. (If she is
younger than that, (less
/sanhedrin_55.html
Now that I think about it, I wonder if the cutoff is age three here
because of the earlier story of Rebecca and Isaac?
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Gilberto Simpson
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I found the following blog which gives references
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There are arguments to be made supporting left of center
interpretations of relgious principles and right of center
interpretations. On the left hand side of Christianity you have Cornel
West, Dorothy Day, many of the Quakers, Menonites, there is a long
tradition of
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I don't think it is correct that female circumcision is or was
commonplace in Iran or under the Ottoman Empire. According to most
Islamic scholars it is not recommended or obligatory. The Shafi school
has the most positive attitude towards the practice but it should be
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I think putting it that way makes sense. In mathematical contexts I'm
used to equal meaning the same in every way. So in other
contexts, especially if you are dealing with controversial subjects
(e.g. religion, politics) it is usually helpful to acknowledge that
what
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote:
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Feminists would rather have us see individuals who are male and individuals
who are female rather than men and women.
And there is a difference between being male and
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