Re: Against nature...

2013-04-22 Thread Ian Kluge
. Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-698533-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-22 Thread Ian Kluge
The Baha'i Studies Listserv As the books Buddhist Warfare and Zen at War show, warfare and Buddhism are not as distant from each other as people tend to think. Best, Ian - Original Message - From: Don Calkins To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:24 PM

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-18 Thread Ian Kluge
! If such ignorance wasn't so tragic, it would be funny. Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-697926-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-18 Thread Ian Kluge
teachers on students in and out of school; The Baha'i Faith rivals these indeed! If such ignorance wasn't so tragic, it would be funny. Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:skg_z...@yahoo.com

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-18 Thread Ian Kluge
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan, Sorry to correct you but only my mother, not my father who was 'Aryan'. But he suffered in other ways. Your point of course is well taken and I thank you for it. Best, Ian - Original Message - From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com To:

Re: Feminism and a Blog War

2013-01-28 Thread Ian Kluge
, while believe in known fact, or even while being a PoMoist. Sent from my iPad On Jan 27, 2013, at 20:05, Ian Kluge iankl...@netbistro.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies ListservIf you are intyerested in a detailed critique of postmodernism in regards to the Faith, see my Postmodernism

Re: Feminism and a Blog War

2013-01-27 Thread Ian Kluge
The Baha'i Studies Listserv If you are intyerested in a detailed critique of postmodernism in regards to the Faith, see my Postmodernism and the Baha'i Writings in Lights of Irfan, Vol. 9, 2008 or at http://www.bahaiphilosophystudies.com/articles/?p=24 Bst wishes, Ian - Original

Re: Religious rejection of politics

2012-11-25 Thread Ian Kluge
class party, The Green Party or an Occupy party would be viable. On either side of the spectrum, the fringes could be marginalized and a coalition between more reasonable voices could be formed. On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Ian Kluge iankl...@netbistro.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies

Re: Religious rejection of politics

2012-11-25 Thread Ian Kluge
under proportional representation there is the (I would say likely) possibility the parties could fracture and reasonable voices in the center could come together and ignore their respective fringes. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Ian Kluge iankl...@netbistro.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies

Re: Religious rejection of politics

2012-11-25 Thread Ian Kluge
itself as moderation. Best wishes, Ian - Original Message - From: Gilberto Simpson To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Religious rejection of politics The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Ian Kluge iankl

Re: Religious rejection of politics

2012-11-22 Thread Ian Kluge
The Baha'i Studies Listserv This true only if there is no minimum percentage threshold a party must attain to get representation. Germany, Sweden, Norway, for example, have a 4 or 5% threshold. The biggest argument against proportional representation is the wag the dog scenario, in which

TABLE OF CONTENTS OF STUDIES IN BAHA'I PHILOSOPHY

2012-08-15 Thread Ian Kluge
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Friends, Here is the Table of Contents for the new journal Studies in Baha'i Philosophy, VOL. 1, 2012 Editorial Introduction Comparative Philosophy: 1) Bloch's Philosophy of Hope and the Baha'i Writings by Ian Kluge 2) Macrcocriticsm: A Comparison

BAHA' PHILOSIPHY JOURNAL

2012-08-14 Thread Ian Kluge
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Friends, I would like to draw your attention to the following journal edited by Dr. Mikhail Sergeev, whom some of you might know. He has been a presenter at ABS conferences. The journal is called Studies in Baha'i Philosophy. Dr. Sergeev is an Adjunct

Re: Overcoming homosexuality

2011-11-08 Thread Ian Kluge
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Daer Susan, You are quite right. The only people I know who have changed their orientation are Christian. Actually, there' s problem with the vagueness of the term 'orientation.' Are we talking about outward behaviors or are we talking about inner SSA i.e same sex

Re: Overcoming homosexuality

2011-11-08 Thread Ian Kluge
. To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 6:34 PM Subject: Re: Overcoming homosexuality The Baha'i Studies ListservOn 7 Nov 2011 at 17:21, Ian Kluge wrote: I would take what the American Psychological Association or American Psychiatric Association say with a considerable amount

Re: List Status

2011-10-26 Thread Ian Kluge
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Nice to have it back! Ian Kluge - Original Message - From: Kathryn Darrah To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:15 PM Subject: Re: List Status The Baha'i Studies ListservExcellent! I have missed it!! Kathryn a wee

Re: Constitutional Monarchy and Parliamentary Democracy (Was:Pahlavi Government In Exile)

2010-11-17 Thread Ian Kluge
that from happening on crucial issues. He is a Conservative - but remember that Canadian politics are 'left-shifted' vis-a-vis American politics. Most Canadian Conservatives would fit comfortably into the Democratic party and only a very few feel at home among Republicans. Best wishes, Ian Kluge

Re: Bahaullah's descendants was Re: Universal House of Guardianship

2010-08-30 Thread Ian Kluge
the Aghsan to the people of Baha. Best wishes, Ian Kluge - Original Message - From: Minhaj Khan mak8...@gmail.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:28 AM Subject: Re: Bahaullah's descendants was Re: Universal House of Guardianship The Baha'i

RE: Baha'i proofs of the existence of God

2008-11-19 Thread Ian Kluge
to agree with Susan that the first function of these proofs (e.g. Kurt Goedel's resuscitation of the ontological argument) is to show that faith is not irrational as maintained by the new atheists, i.e. that reason and faith are not necessarily in a state of conflict. Best wishes, Ian Kluge

RE: Baha'i proofs of the existence of God

2008-11-18 Thread Ian Kluge
Perspective given at ABS and scheduled for a public lecture by the University of Northern British Columbia this Thursday. I can send you copies if you give me you e-mail address. Best wishes, Ian Kluge _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: Baha'i panentheism

2008-08-07 Thread Ian Kluge
. In panentheism, God is both present throughout all creation, and still personal and transcendent. Later in this paper we shall demonstrate the effect panentheism has on the epistemological teachings promulgated in SAQ. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any

RE: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy]

2008-07-03 Thread Ian Kluge
, the seductions of unreason. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul McKibben Sent: July 2, 2008 11:20 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy] By Modernism I mean that movement/age from

RE: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy

2008-07-02 Thread Ian Kluge
, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of firestorm Sent: July 1, 2008 12:39 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: RE: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy ian, not to be overly stupid here, but t get any of this in a frame

RE: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy]

2008-07-02 Thread Ian Kluge
' philosophy makes its way out of texts and onto the streets. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul McKibben Sent: July 2, 2008 6:48 AM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy] Many of the questions

RE: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy

2008-07-02 Thread Ian Kluge
Keep in mind that this is a list dedicated to Baha'i scholarship. There are other lists which are less academic in orientation. I'm confused about this note. For whom was it intended? Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Mazda, RE: avoiding the complexities of the subject, reframing it to suit the presuppositions of his audience, and advancing it in a very meaningful way. As for reaching western audiences, as I said before, this would have been a mistake since Aristotle and the metaphysics of the

RE: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy

2008-06-23 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Mazda, In SAQ Abdu'l-Baha is both Platonic and Aristotelian i.e. Plotinian, which is supported by his espousal of emanation a la Plotinus. Recall that Plotinus tried to reconcile Plato and Aristotle. I really think that you speculate far too much about Abdu'l-Baha's motives in using

RE: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy

2008-06-20 Thread Ian Kluge
carefully since the concept of an essence with its potentials actualized over time is not necessarily static. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mazda Karimi Sent: June 20, 2008 4:51 AM To: Baha'i Studies Subject

RE: Neoscholasticism/Perennial Philosophy

2008-06-20 Thread Ian Kluge
tradition in philosophy. This is especially true vis-à-vis the ontological reality of categories and species. SAQ is strongly anti-nominalist. BTW, people should be aware that not all neo-thomists or neo-scholastics are Catholics. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: Suffering

2008-04-02 Thread Ian Kluge
long to lay down my life in the path to Thee! I desire to shed my blood for Thee, and to make the supreme sacrifice. * `Abdu'l-Bahá, Paris Talks 51 Best wishes, Ian Kluge _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Betts Sent: April 2, 2008

RE: Relativity of Truth

2008-03-25 Thread Ian Kluge
If anyone is interested I will be pleased to send a copy of my paper Relativism and the Baha'i Writings presented at Irfan Colloquium at Bosch in May 2007. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Poirier Attorney

RE: Fanaticism or Relativism: Can a Baha'i Be Certain - a response

2007-12-03 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Gilberto, I don't know. Sen sent the URL of his blog for us to read in the context of our discussion of deconstruction and the like. Best wishes, Ian Kluge _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilberto Simpson Sent: December 3, 2007 12:54

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Kluge
and ad hominems and speculations about my motives. I don't think they are relevant to this discussion. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended

RE: skepticism was Re: Deconstructionism

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Kluge
needs, attitudes etc and not on rational considerations. After all, just because a person expresses a doubt does not necessarily mean the doubt is rationally justified. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Kluge
are, in my mind, social laws. They may contradict nature - but human law does not always take guidance from nature. All man-made systems decay and require renewal. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-20 Thread Ian Kluge
that I - or any philosopher - has access to ultimate truth. I do not think you will be able to find one. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-19 Thread Ian Kluge
and the truth that from time immemorial even unto eternity (Kitab-i-Iqan 8) by which light may be distinguished from darkness, truth from falsehood, right from wrong, guidance from error . . . (Kitab-i-Iqan 8) Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-19 Thread Ian Kluge
on a philosophical basis have taught me that especially young people enjoy it once they get into it - and to varying degrees, the vast majority do. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-18 Thread Ian Kluge
-essential), 4-fold causality (material causes, efficient cause, formal cause and final cause.) [Please do not misinterpret 'substance' as did Descartes, Hume and Locke etc. as something 'material'.] Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-16 Thread Ian Kluge
Not only is there no such ground that we can find: if it were found, we are not the absolute beings to go stand on it. The search for absolute truths is doomed both by the lack of a more absolute standard by which we could recognise an absolute truth, and by our own conditionality as knowers.

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-16 Thread Ian Kluge
on the position of the subject. But such dependence is exactly what relativism claims - which is exactly why the Writings aren't relativistic. As my paper argues, they exemplify perspectivalism and relationalism but those are not relativism. Best wishes, Ian Kluge

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-15 Thread Ian Kluge
with the triumphalist under-pinings of our theology - indeed, support them fully. Baha'u'llah is the Manifestation of God for this age, and the surviving dispensations are less than fully adequate vehicles for meeting the needs of our time and the further evolution of humankind. Best wishes, Ian

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-15 Thread Ian Kluge
Derrida on his own principles, we can't even know what he wrote - nor can he. But I don't agree with Derrida - otherwise I would be a deconstructionist. I think we can know what Derrida is saying and can also know that much of it is nonsense. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-15 Thread Ian Kluge
for yourself if you haven't read Against Method in at least one of its editions. Best wishes, Ian kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-14 Thread Ian Kluge
extrinsic to the individual - and we are no longer relativists: truth is relative to the standpoint of the judging subject. The judging subject is no longer the deciding factor as he is in relativism. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-14 Thread Ian Kluge
of the basic texts on this subject. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-14 Thread Ian Kluge
this? What neutral Archimedean standpoint allows you to judge what is 'true' in a culture or not? Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-14 Thread Ian Kluge
to do so. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-13 Thread Ian Kluge
, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-12 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Gilberto, RE Descarte's demon and the cogito, you write, No, I haven't forgotten about cogito ergo sum and all that. I'm willing to concede that is a fairly persuasive argument. And so, firstly, when I think of skepticism, I would mainly have in mind opinions about the outside world. But

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-11 Thread Ian Kluge
some viewpoints and accept others? After all, any viewpoint can be established from some specific individual's position. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-11 Thread Ian Kluge
, and randomly stringing them together again: purple name stomp Vishnu, Tylenol, post-it. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-11 Thread Ian Kluge
Waffen SS possessed struggle, discipline and willpower in spades - yet would you call their cause, the Nazi ideology about race, true or morally worthwhile? Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-11 Thread Ian Kluge
and context) then indeed, 'everything goes. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-09 Thread Ian Kluge
the deconstruction/subverting process. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-08 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Mazda, You write, But, don't you think that statements such as the following do indeed imply that meaning cannot be fixed? Know assuredly that just as thou firmly believest that the Word of God, exalted be His glory, endureth for ever, thou must, likewise, believe with undoubting

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-08 Thread Ian Kluge
well think it is true - but that doesn't mean it actually is. Unqualified relativism, of course, must hold all opinions as equally valid, but the Writings clearly do not agree with this. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-08 Thread Ian Kluge
consider fundamentalist type statements in the Writings? How are you defining 'fundamentalist'? Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ursus Maximus Sent: November 7, 2007 3:04 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-03 Thread Ian Kluge
will soon re-invent the tower of Babel/babble. It would make organized religion impossible. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Calkins Sent: November 3, 2007 6:24 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: RE: Deconstructionism

RE: Post Modern Spiritual Crisis

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Kluge
If anyone is intyersted in my paper Postmodernism and the Bahai Writings given at the Irfan Colloquium at Bosch Baha'i School, May, 2007, please email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ursus

RE: Is there self examination in Islamic societies

2006-07-24 Thread Ian Kluge
inside the Canadian Muslim community. (That, of course, simply reinforces one of her major points about today's Islam and tolerance.) Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC

RE: Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

2006-04-27 Thread Ian Kluge
, the actual decision is invalid, and consequently, there is no disobedience involved. Disobeying an illegal order is not really disobedience. Best wishes, Ian Kluge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Friedman Sent: April 27, 2006 4:50 AM To: Baha'i Studies

RE: RE: Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

2006-04-27 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Susan, So would I. But I have heard it repeated lots. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 27, 2006 12:53 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: RE: Cases when one CAN disobey

RE: Some help

2006-02-07 Thread Ian Kluge
there. Best wishes, Ian Kluge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin La Framboise Sent: February 6, 2006 7:12 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Some help Dearest friends, I have a little favor to ask, and I'm only reluctant because I'm

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-16 Thread Ian Kluge
needs my help. Do you realise you're saying that you hope your discourse will legitimise the various splinters of the Faith in the non-Baha'i world? Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-14 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Mark, You write: At 12:41 PM 10/13/2005, you wrote: Whether or not there is in your opinion such a 'thing' as a communist state is not the point. The point is that both Yugoslavs did in fact live in a communist state - as do North Koreans. Both suffer(ed) oppression based on and

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote)) (ERROR)

2005-10-14 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Mark, - I hit send instead of save. I'll send the rest when I'm done. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-13 Thread Ian Kluge
to be an academic discipline. Legitimate psychological and psychiatric researchers generally discounted repressed memory syndrome. OK - but that doesn't change the fact that the discourse of experts or perceived experts can legitimise a topic, or de-legitimise it too. Best wishes, Ian Kluge

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-12 Thread Ian Kluge
'corporatocracy' may often be a false analysis of an economically or socially unjust situation. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark A. Foster Sent: October 10, 2005 7:08 AM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: RE: Baha'i

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-12 Thread Ian Kluge
of Guidance, p. 549) Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-08 Thread Ian Kluge
and poverty should, however, be abolished... -- Shoghi Effendi, Directives from the Guardian 20 Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark A. Foster Sent: October 8, 2005 6:35 AM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: Baha'i Liberation

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-06 Thread Ian Kluge
syndrome shows clearly that social scientists etc do indeed have the power to legitimise ideas and even give them legal force imply by presenting them in a certain way. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-06 Thread Ian Kluge
clearly that social scientists etc do indeed have the power to legitimise ideas and even give them legal force imply by presenting them in a certain way. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-04 Thread Ian Kluge
leads to misunderstanding. It also inadvertently legitimizes that various splinter groups such as the Orthodox Baha'is are true Baha'is, one of the many Baha'i faiths (with a small f). Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-03 Thread Ian Kluge
and reformers. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Ater Sent: October 2, 2005 9:24 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote)) I certainly don't think we must eschew all activism

RE: Baha'i Liberation Theology ((long quote))

2005-10-03 Thread Ian Kluge
of Justice ensures that all local and personal versions harmonise with that perfect model. Calling these local and individual versions Baha'i faiths (with a small 'f') simply confuses the issue. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: need Ian Kluge's e-mail

2005-09-03 Thread Ian Kluge
Hi Sandy, Yes, I'm on this list. My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Best wishes, Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 3, 2005 3:00 AM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: need Ian Kluge's e-mail Is Ian Kluge

RE: Susan Maneck

2005-09-02 Thread Ian Kluge
, Mississippi. [snip] Thank you Mark; Kirsti and I were concerned for her and her son. We recall our wonderful conversation at ABS. Best wishes, Ian Kluge The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC

RE: A humble Plea

2005-08-30 Thread Ian Kluge
dispensations, while on the other, the particular historical adaptations proclaim their relative, temporary, truths and then pass away into irrelevance. The relative and the absolute are held in balance each reflecting a certain feature of human existence. Best wishes, Ian Kluge

RE: Who is the author of The Jesus Cult website? John Roncalio

2005-07-25 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear All, John Roncalio is indeed a Bahai. He spent a few years in my home town, Prince George, B.C. He, or one of his workers, used to tune my wifes grand piano. Best wishes, Ian Kluge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Maneck

Baha'i Ontology

2005-06-09 Thread Ian Kluge
papers are part of a book in progress on Bahai ontology. Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-05-09 Thread Ian Kluge
, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-05-04 Thread Ian Kluge
: Attributes refer to modes of perception. IAN: See above. Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-04-13 Thread Ian Kluge
is inconsistent with the Writings. Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message

TEST

2005-04-06 Thread Ian Kluge
TEST __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:

RE: TEST

2005-04-06 Thread Ian Kluge
Thanks. Ian From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barmak Kusha Sent: April 6, 2005 9:23 AM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: TEST Pong to your Ping. Ian Kluge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TEST

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-04-03 Thread Ian Kluge
: Don't categories have to have members? Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-04-01 Thread Ian Kluge
having fins and legs enough of an essential difference to prevent dolphin ranching in Texas? Those are just categories. IAN: If they are *just [mere] categories, why don't you and I start a dolphin ranch in Kansas and avoid the perils of mad-cow disease in our herds? Best wishes, Ian Kluge

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-03-29 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Mark, You write: As I said, it is all a matter of perspective: In this physical world man is not distinguished from the animal. -- `Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p.119 In other words, physically, I can be placed under the animal category. Spiritually, I cannot. IAN:

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-03-27 Thread Ian Kluge
words. We have the same idea but you just want a different word? Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-03-25 Thread Ian Kluge
*used* to believe. IAN: You don't think God's Will constitutes reality (first nature) for us? You no longer believe we psychologically/socially constitute social reality? Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-03-24 Thread Ian Kluge
: one paragraph on nominal essences ( abstractions) and the other about real essences. Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-03-23 Thread Ian Kluge
does not apply to first nature but is only applicable to second nature, i.e. social reality. Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL

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2005-03-21 Thread Ian Kluge
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RE: Realism, Nominalism (was: RE: Interesting Situation)

2005-03-19 Thread Ian Kluge
or man). IAN: Try it! See what happens. Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st

RE: Realism, Nominalism (Rational)

2005-03-18 Thread Ian Kluge
. Thank you for drawing my attention to this passage. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Maneck Sent: March 18, 2005 4:59 AM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: RE: Realism, Nominalism (Rational) I read all who are just

RE: Realism, Nominalism (Rational)

2005-03-18 Thread Ian Kluge
will be in self-contradiction. Best wishes, Ian Kluge __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL

RE: Realism, Nominalism (Rational)

2005-03-17 Thread Ian Kluge
lead one to a philosophical recognition of Baha'u'llah. Best wishes, Ian Kluge Dear John, I would not assume that Abdu'l-Baha had formal logic in mind. Look at how He uses the 'rational proofs' in the prelude to the commentary on the Book of Daniel found in this same text: Until now

RE: Realism, Nominalism

2005-03-15 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Susan, Re Against the Modern World : I've read it. Wasn't too impressed. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Maneck Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:02 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: RE: Realism

RE: Why nominalism?

2005-03-15 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Mark, You write: In effect, if one removes this notion of a fixed reality, one is left with something like a combination of nominalism and particularism. IAN: Not necessarily - as Schopenhauer and Whitehead demonstrate clearly. Best wishes, Ian Kluge

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