Re: chastity

2005-01-13 Thread Sheila Spatz
Dear Heather, Thank-you for your appreciation. I hope you don't make the same mistakes as so many parents do. Giving your kids useless directions like "avoid all arousal" (completely impossible in our sex saturated society),'Give it to God' (Huh??), 'Burn it off with exercise'(Yeah, THAT

Re: Chastity

2005-01-12 Thread Sheila Spatz
is not worth it, because in the endI invariably feel bad about myself. much love, janine--- Sheila Spatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: OK, This little "lookie-lu" is going to chirp! in on this one because this is a subject rather near and dear to my heart. As a woman who was raised as

Re: Chastity

2005-01-10 Thread Sheila Spatz
OK, This little "lookie-lu" is going to chirp in on this one because this is a subject rather near and dear to my heart. As a woman who was raised as a Biah'i during the roaring sixties and the sexy seventies, I have struggled with compliance to this recommendation with varying levels of success.

Re: Chastity

2005-01-10 Thread Sheila Spatz
Prayers help I only know a little about the history of the 12 step movement. My experiance is practical. It worked for me and that -frankly - is all I care about. It continues to work where nothing else has beeneffective. I am, in the end, a pragmatist. Theories are for those who can afford them.

Re: Gay Marriage and politics

2004-02-15 Thread Sheila Spatz
Please tell me where these quotes are from? Who are they quoting? Sheila --- M Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark A. Foster wrote: IMO, civil law should permit gay marriage. However, religious organization should be free do what they like. Dear Mark, You raise a good point. But

Re: Gay Marriage and politics

2004-02-15 Thread Sheila Spatz
/amendment.html http://www.sdnp.org.gy/bahai/constitution99.html Sheila Spatz wrote: Please tell me where these quotes are from? Who are they quoting? __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Gay Marriage and politics

2004-02-15 Thread Sheila Spatz
When it first became published I understood it was a collection of pilgrams notes of varying validity. I was told at that time that it was a 'provisional' translation and not neccesarily authoritative. Sheila --- Don Calkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheila Spatz wrote: Thank-you so much

RE: Gay Marriage

2004-02-10 Thread Sheila Spatz
Excus me, Can someone give me a quote from Baha-ul-llah, Abdul-Baha or the gaurdian regarding Gods ordinace regarding homosexuality (aside from pedophilia or other passages primarily refering to sexual promiscuity in general as opposed to homosexuality in specific)? Thank-You Sheila --- David