Re: Bahais never learn

2011-01-04 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear friends, Is it necessary to answer the posts by this challenger?It is not sense to continue such claims. Rohani --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Badí' Villar Cárdenas badi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Badí' Villar Cárdenas badi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Bahais never learn To:

Re: LSAs/NSA and the responsibilities of government

2010-12-19 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Sen, In your 2 below posts,it seems that word friend is used in 2 different /opposite meanings! 1)In the first post, A Muslimis called a friend. 2)In the 2nd post according to the Writings of Abdul-Baha' ,only the friends should elect the members of the

Re: LSAs/NSA and the responsibilities of government

2010-12-19 Thread shahram rohani
of government To: shahram rohani shahramroh...@yahoo.com, Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 3:32 PM On 19 Dec 2010 at 11:54, shahram rohani wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Sen, In your 2 below posts,it seems that word friend is used in 2 different

Re: Grave Influence

2010-11-19 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Matt, The meaning of Radical or Extremist is clear.such a person or view can be in both wings. Tks/Rohani --- On Thu, 11/18/10, Matt Haase matthewhaa...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matt Haase matthewhaa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Grave Influence To: Baha'i Studies

Re: Seal of the Prophets

2010-07-11 Thread shahram rohani
are manifestations of God;that is quite different from those previous stations. Thanks/Rohani --- On Sat, 7/10/10, Sen Sonja sen.so...@casema.nl wrote: From: Sen Sonja sen.so...@casema.nl Subject: Seal of the Prophets To: shahram rohani shahramroh...@yahoo.com, Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu

RE: Seal of the Prophets/ some more clarifications

2010-07-08 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear mr.Khazeh Fananapazir, Thanks for yr e-mail.It shows that it is necessary that you hv another review of yr texts! I personally believe that investigation is always interesting. 1- I am very glad that you are not furious ,like Susan, to push me to the Qom[Iran]

Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some more clarifications

2010-07-03 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Susan, Although I see that some persons here are full of prejudice,and do not like to hv scientific discussions - and for this reason I do not like to continue this debate more -;yet I lik to give some points that may be useful for people: -In the field of

Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some clarifications

2010-07-03 Thread shahram rohani
in A Radiant Gem by Houri Falahi-Skuce) === Op 02/07/10, shahram rohani shahramroh...@yahoo.com schreef: The Baha'i Studies Listserv We can accept Bab as manifestation and forerunner of Baha'ullah.But since he himself has mentioned the full name  and chain of names of father ,grandfather

Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some clarifications

2010-07-02 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv We can accept Bab as manifestation and forerunner of Baha'ullah.But since he himself has mentioned the full name  and chain of names of father ,grandfather,... of Mahdi--the 12th shiite Imam-- in several of his scriptures; so it is nonsense to ignore the existance of

Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some clarifications

2010-07-02 Thread shahram rohani
on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: shahram rohani shahramroh...@yahoo.com Sender: bounce-512585-2080...@list.jccc.eduDate: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:15:14 -0700To: Baha'i Studiesbahai-st@list.jccc.eduReplyTo: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Subject: Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some

Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some clarifications

2010-07-01 Thread shahram rohani
-askari was not survived by any living son. Best regards,   Iskandar  Sent from my iPod On Jun 29, 2010, at 4:26 AM, shahram rohani shahramroh...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv All dear friends, Although it is a nice discussion,but it is moving from a subject to another subject.What

Re: Seal of the Prophets

2010-07-01 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Sen, If you refer to the persian text of Ishraqat  ,-Relevations of Baha'ullah , where he talks about the Prophet of Islam, describes him as the seal of both prophets messengers.It is P.293 of the book.However,I think there should be many more references. Yours,

Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some clarifications

2010-06-29 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv All dear friends, Although it is a nice discussion,but it is moving from a subject to another subject.What I can add is that Shaikhiya is also a Shiite sect.The 12th Imam,Mahdi, was also born physically.Since Hazrat A'la[Bab] in his words has acknowledged it,and had

Re: Seal of the Prophets

2010-06-29 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I agree with this view. Thanks/Rohani --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote: From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Seal of the Prophets To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 1:13 PM The Baha'i Studies

Re: Seal of the Prophets

2010-06-29 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Hajir, We are talking about the eternal spiritual truth,and not the physical/material things.Hum? Yours/Rohani --- On Mon, 6/28/10, hajmog haj...@yahoo.com wrote: From: hajmog haj...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Seal of the Prophets To: Baha'i Studies

Re: Time dependence of Revelation

2010-06-25 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Stephen others, As far as I know, there are frequent traditions in the Sunni collections of AHADITH ,similar to what you have quoted;but they are not correct.Even some of them are funny and against the common reason.A short study of the history of the Islamic

Re: Time dependence of Revelation

2010-06-25 Thread shahram rohani
®From: shahram rohani shahramroh...@yahoo.com Sender: bounce-510958-2080...@list.jccc.eduDate: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:38:43 -0700To: Baha'i Studiesbahai-st@list.jccc.eduReplyTo: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Subject: Re: Time dependence of Revelation The Baha'i Studies Listserv

Re: Time dependence of Revelation

2010-06-24 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear friends, During the time of Muhammad(p.b.u.h),there were always writers[KATEBAN E WAHY] with him,who would write whatever were revelated to him.They were from his companions;and were present with him in city or abroad.One of them was Imam Ali. He was also

Re: Jinn

2010-05-31 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear friends, As far as I remember,Satan[Iblis] has been a Jinn.After several thousand years of worship of God,he was given -by honor- the stage of Angles.He was n't a true Angle.After his disobediance ,he was expelled.I will try to find the ref of this article.

Re: Jinn

2010-05-28 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Sen, Please be informed that in the Islamic words and culture,Jinn is a creature different from Angles.Jinns can be faithful or unfaithful.But angles are not so; Peace, Shahram Rohani --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Sen Sonja sen.so...@casema.nl wrote: From: Sen

Re: Lesser Prophets

2010-02-12 Thread shahram rohani
Feb 2010 at 23:26, shahram rohani wrote: according to the words of Abdul-Baha,we were supposed to have 24 Guardians, The reference it to a verse in Revelation: And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God. of which Abdu'l-Baha

Re: everlasting Covenant only in Bahá'í faith

2010-02-12 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan: You are correct. This is the same Shahram Rohani. On another list, he is spreading other false rumors about Mr. Paul Lample.  And Shahram made an erroneous statement about the 24 Elders, to which Sen replied. Apparently Shahram is quite misinformed

Re: everlasting Covenant only in Bahá'í faith

2010-02-09 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Gary, then how we should justify the divisions taken place in different levels and  generations in Bahai faith? Yours/Rohani --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Gary Selchert ebedeyn...@aol.com wrote: From: Gary Selchert ebedeyn...@aol.com Subject: Re: everlasting Covenant only

Re: everlasting Covenant only in Bahá'í faith

2010-02-09 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Friends, please note that Bahaullah has taught us that the size and number,or duration can not be a logical reason for correctness of a faith.We should observe that the other groups,like Azalis,have existed the same time.Or if we consider the size n volume of

Re: Lesser Prophets

2010-02-09 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Stephen, according to the words of Abdul-Baha,we were supposed to have 24 Guardians,from the masculine descendents of Bahaullah.But as AbdulBaha had no son [and excommunication of Muhammad Ali];and since Shoghi Effendi had no child at all, it is believed that

Re: agreement about the future of friends[YARAN] in Iran

2009-03-08 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear dr.s.manneck, Hi all the personal identifications of the Iranian friends,i.e.birth,death, marriage,divorce are legal and registered in due governmental offices.all they hv I.D. card,national card,etc. tks/Rohani --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-24 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear dr.s.maneck dear mr.iskandar Hai, I saw the article in goftman blog.I usually follow the texts of ipw of dr.ahang rabbani too.fyi, the article are more than 70% journalistic.they just arouse the emotions n feelings of the youth.but at the same time it shows

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv DEAR DR.S.MANECK, TKS YR REPLY.I WISH U HD LET MY POST APPEARED IN THE SITE,SO THAT I CUD FEEL FREE ATMOSPHERE HERE.NOW THE READER THINKS THAT U R SELECTING OR CENSURING THE TEXTS,N IT IS NOT INTERESTING FR AN ACADEMIC SITE. I PERSONALLY RESPECT YOU,N TRY TO READ YR

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear dr.S.Maneck, hi it is actually my habit to write in capital letter.in some way it is easier. I hv read some texts n comments of dr.Foster.they are useful n interesting too. re Mona ,I know that,and I am clearly against it.I am against murder as sentence.I am

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-22 Thread shahram rohani
ARE INTERESTED IN PEACE,LOVE,UNITY.WE PRAY FOR THAT.WE HATE BLOODSHED. WARMEST/SHAHRAM  ROHANI  --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote: From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Subject: Fwd: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran To: shahramroh...@yahoo.com Date

illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-21 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv -- DEAR FRIENDS, HI ATTORNEY GENERAL OF IRAN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT ALL THE ORGANIZATIONAL ACTIVITIES OF THE HAIFAN BAHAI COMMUNITY OF IRAN,IN DIFFERENT LEVELS,BOTH ADMINISTRATIVE AND TEACHING ACTIVITIES,ARE HARMFUL AND DESTRUCTIVE TO THE SOCIAL ORDER AND NATIONAL

Re: Unity of nations

2009-02-09 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Sen, HI the other Persian word for century is sadeh. Yours/Rohani --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Sen Sonja sen.so...@casema.nl wrote: From: Sen Sonja sen.so...@casema.nl Subject: Re: Unity of nations To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Date: Sunday, February 8,

Re: Unity of nations

2009-01-03 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv DEAR MR.FRIEDMAN, YOU R RIGHT TT THE 2 TARGETS WILL HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME.PLS ALSO NOTE THAT THOSE PRINCIPALS WERE NOT MENTIONED BY BAHAULLAH FR THE FIRST TIME. IN THE IRANIAN RELIGIOUS CULTURE IT WAS VERY COMMON TO BELIEVE IN UNITY OF NATIONS AND WORLD PEACE UNDER

Re: Baha'i proofs of the existence of God

2008-11-21 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Susan, but altogether it should be based on truth.and lead to truth,and not allusions n fictions.Do not u think so? the best/Rohani --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Baha'i proofs of

Re: Covenant Question(s) [long]

2008-09-16 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv DEAR SUSAN N GARY, HI ALL FRIENDS, TKS YR GOOD TOPIC N EXPLANATIONS.ACCORDING TO MY PREVIOUS ACADEMIC ISLAMIC STUDIES THE ALAST[ETERNAL] COVENANT SIMPLY REFERS TO THE GRANTED KNOWLEDGE TO MANKIND,WHICH IS CALLED AS FETRAT OR MAN'S NATURE.SUCH A KNOWLEDGE IS BEYOND THE