Re: Accountability (was:RE: Women in West/Islam)

2005-01-15 Thread Firouz Anaraki
Gilberto: But in some ways the larger issue is that if Susan hadn't made her comment and I hadn't read similar things elsewhere and I had heard your accusation towards Islam for the first time, then it would have been misleading. I'm ok with the idea that western liberals like the idea of a

Accountability (was:RE: Women in West/Islam)

2005-01-14 Thread Tim Nolan
Dear Susan, FirouzIslamic governments and Islamic parties say that they are just accountable to God not to people.Susan Don't we say the same thing about own institutions? Yes, we do. But the Baha'i institutions exist, and operate based on the explicit, written statements of Baha'u'llah or His

Re: Accountability (was:RE: Women in West/Islam)

2005-01-14 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:22:20 -0800 (PST), Tim Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Susan, FirouzIslamic governments and Islamic parties say that they are just accountable to God not to people. Susan Don't we say the same thing about own institutions? Yes, we do. But the Baha'i

RE: Accountability (was:RE: Women in West/Islam)

2005-01-14 Thread Susan Maneck
But the Baha'i institutions exist, and operate based on the explicit, written statements of Baha'u'llah or His successors. Can Islam make the analogous claim? Analogous, yes, but obviously not the same. But perhaps in the same since that Christian claims to finality are analogous to Muslim

Re: Accountability (was:RE: Women in West/Islam)

2005-01-14 Thread JS
G: But in some ways the larger issue is that if Susan hadn't made hercomment and I hadn't read similar things elsewhere and I had heardyour accusation towards Islam for the first time, then it would havebeen misleading. I'm "ok" with the idea that western liberals like theidea of a secular