Re: RE: alcohol in meals - and gambling

2006-08-04 Thread smaneck
Hi Susan, I have played Bingo, poker, etc. in family meetings (there are azar games)... In the other hand (azar games as recreation to earn a bit money ;-) Are you saying that we cannot play lottery anytime? Dear Hasan, No, I didn't say that. Lotteries are for charitable purposes. Even

Re: RE: alcohol in meals - and gambling

2006-08-04 Thread Gilberto Simpson
Do you look at the intention of the gambler or the nature of the casino (or both? and how do they relate?) I mean, state lotteries are used to fund school systems but if you really wanted to fund a school system it would probably be more effective to make a direct donation yourself. People who

Re: RE: alcohol in meals - and gambling

2006-08-04 Thread Susan Maneck
I mean, state lotteries are used to fund school systems but if you really wanted to fund a school system it would probably be more effective to make a direct donation yourself. People who play lottery tickets are hoping to win when they do so, not necessarily hoping to improve their local

Re: RE: alcohol in meals - and gambling

2006-08-04 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 8/4/06, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, state lotteries are used to fund school systems but if you really wanted to fund a school system it would probably be more effective to make a direct donation yourself. People who play lottery tickets are hoping to win when they do so,

RE: alcohol in meals - and gambling

2006-08-03 Thread Monder M Zbaeda
Very well so my friend. The verses I quoted were only in response to alcohol issue with respect to Muhammad etc. Other issues such as gambling, pig meat etc weren't the issue of discussion. Much love, MonderHasan Elias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I infer that gambling as source of bahá’ís

Re: RE: alcohol in meals - and gambling

2006-08-03 Thread smaneck
I infer that gambling as source of bahá?ís funds is forbidden (also gambling as an occupation is inadvisable), but I don?t think it is completely forbidden for recreation purposes. As far as individuals are concerned, we have carefully studied the Writings of 'Abdu'l-Bahá and Shoghi

Re: RE: alcohol in meals - and gambling

2006-08-03 Thread Hasan Elias
Hi Susan, I have played Bingo, poker, etc. in family meetings (there are azar games)... In the other hand (azar games as recreation to earn a bit money ;-) Are you saying that we cannot play lottery anytime? If so, how did you come to infer that? If there is an authoritative interpretation, I’d

RE: alcohol in meals - and gambling

2006-08-02 Thread Hasan Elias
I infer that gambling as source of bahá’ís funds is forbidden (also gambling as an occupation is inadvisable), but I don’t think it is completely forbidden for recreation purposes. "As far as individuals are concerned, we have carefully studied the Writings of 'Abdu'l-Bahá and Shoghi Effendi on