It seems like something very different is being claimed by Bahais
though. I don't think I've ever heard a Muslim call Muhammad the
Revealor. God was the source of the revelation, it was conveyed by
Gabriel, and given to Muhammad. (Saaws) Muhammad was more a passive
recipient in the process. That
Gilberto,
At 09:51 AM 1/9/2005, you wrote:
It seems like something very different is being claimed by Bahais though.
Very much so. Here are my own understandings:
The Baha'i concept of divine Manifestation is probably closer to the mainline
christologies of Protestantism, Roman Catholicism,
Oops!
The Angel Gabriel does not refer to something apart from Muhammad. It was a
metaphor for His divine nature, His Holy Spirit, which enabled Him, Mirza
Husayn Ali (Baha'u'llah's human side), to deliver His message.
I forgot I was talking about Muhammad.
With regards, Mark A. Foster 15
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:18:52 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilberto,
At 09:51 AM 1/9/2005, you wrote:
It seems like something very different is being claimed by Bahais though.
Mark:
Very much so. Here are my own understandings:
The Baha'i concept of divine
Hi, Gilberto,
At 11:47 AM 1/9/2005, you wrote:
But if there is this real distinction between the Manifestation and the
Essence of God, what reason would there be to blur that distinction with
language which could lead to confusion?
What language?
Is it in order to make it easier for people
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:08:31 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Gilberto,
At 11:47 AM 1/9/2005, you wrote:
But if there is this real distinction between the Manifestation and the
Essence of God, what reason would there be to blur that distinction with
language which could
At 01:25 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:
When you say that the Manifestations can be called God.
Oh, okay. It is because Baha'u'llah has said that the Prophets can call
Themselves God:
Were any of the all-embracing Manifestations of God to declare: I am
God, He, verily, speaketh the truth, and
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:16:57 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 01:25 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:
When you say that the Manifestations can be called God.
Oh, okay. It is because Baha'u'llah has said that the Prophets can call
Themselves God:
Sure I understand that. And what I'm
Gilberto,
At 02:30 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:
Sure I understand that. And what I'm saying is that it seems like there is a
high potential for confusion.
And there are different viewpoints on this subject among Baha'is. However, I am
not sure that confusion is always a bad thing.
With regards,
Dear Khazeh,
My original question:
So my question to you is whether you are willing to say:
all that is vouchsafed [to Baháu'lláh] was indeed Mentioned before [to
Muhammad]?
Peace
Gilberto
http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist/m43251.html
Dear Gilberto of course in the spirit of the
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:24:15 -, Khazeh Fananapazir
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Khazeh,
My original question:
So my question to you is whether you are willing to say:
all that is vouchsafed [to Baháu'lláh] was indeed Mentioned before [to
Muhammad]?
Peace
Gilberto
In a message dated 1/8/2005 3:41:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But Muslims aren't just resting with a part. Remember, we agreed. ALLthat is vouchsafed to Baháu'lláh was indeed Mentioned before toMuhammad. ALL of it. There is nothing missing.And in the Quran it says:We
In a message dated 1/8/2005 6:01:22 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gilberto:Islamically the Quran wasn't written by Muhammad, it comes from God.
Who said different. Muhammed is the Revealor and I refer to that as authorship. Actually, Gabriel revealed the Qur'an to Muhammed
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