RE: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-26 Thread Mark A. Foster
Susan, Some more thoughts on the subject: I have looked at some more statements by the House of Justice, and I am wondering whether the House sees its primary function as an elucidation of the Texts and the interpretations of the Guardian, not as legislation per se. Rulings on legislation

RE: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-26 Thread Mark A. Foster
Ahang, At 10:38 AM 1/26/2005, you wrote: In other words, in this instance, is there a difference between the scope of House of Justice without a living Guardian and one with a living Guardian? I will make a qualified response, since, officially, I don't know. It seems to me that elucidation as

RE: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-25 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Susan, But I don't think that is a term which Baha'u'llah uses either. To my knowledge it goes back to the Guardian. Yes. However, at least use of the term perfect Exemplar may give some *interpretive* authority to the idea that `Abdu'l-Baha was covenantally protected (ma'sum/'ismat) from

RE: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-25 Thread Susan Maneck
Yes. However, at least use of the term perfect Exemplar may give some *interpretive* authority to the idea that `Abdu'l-Baha was covenantally protected (ma'sum/'ismat) from impurity/sin. Dear Mark, But that is circular. If Abdu'l-Baha was not infallible then one can question whether or not He

RE: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-25 Thread Susan Maneck
Yes, that is a good point. However, I did find one passage, in the Suriy-i-Ghusn, Tablet of the Branch, which implies (moral?) error for those who reject `Abdu'l-Baha Dear Mark, And we have similiar statements from Abdu'l-Baha regarding the House of Justice. ;-} I don't think there is any

RE: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-25 Thread Mark A. Foster
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RE: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-24 Thread Susan Maneck
If there are other areas in which the House of Justice is given covenantal protection (ma'sum/'ismat), or infallibility, I think they would need to be substantiated from the Sacred Texts or the interpretations of the Guardian. Dear Mark, You ommitted one very important quote: Unto the Most Holy

RE: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-24 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Susan, I am combining a response to both messages. At 07:27 AM 1/24/2005, you wrote: problems which have caused difference and questions that are obscure are both rather vaque categories and it is from these that the House draws its authority to elucidate. Granted that the House considers

RE: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-24 Thread Susan Maneck
I know that the World Centre was unable to produce a specific reference to that effect. However, given that 'ismat/ma'sum translates as protection (i.e., from impurity or sin), how else can `Abdu'l-Baha's station as a perfect Exemplar be understood? Dear Mark, But I don't think that is a term

The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-23 Thread Susan Maneck
I do appreciate to read what you have to say on the same subject. Thanks so much for sharing your ideas. Dear Firouz, Well, I haven't written a whole lot on it because my own conception of infallibility is still somewhat (and maybe always will be)amorphous. Anything I write on the topic is still

Re: The Infallibility of the House of Justice (long)

2005-01-23 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Susan, At 11:15 PM 1/23/2005, you wrote: But given that fact, I don't think it makes sense to simply confine it to certain narrow functions. From a minimalist standpoint, I think one should only affirm infallibility when it has been specifically authorized. With regard to the House of