Re: Fwd: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-25 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Jan 25, 2008 5:18 PM, firestorm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gilberto, :-) awesome. we may be headed to some common ground. I don't see it but I hope you are right. ;Sure, but it is easy to misrepresent another person's views while attempting to speak on their behalf. true enough. on

re: Fwd: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-25 Thread firestorm
gilberto, :-) awesome. we may be headed to some common ground. ;Sure, but it is easy to misrepresent another person's views while attempting to speak on their behalf. true enough. on the other hand, i don;t think anyone can, without some bit of paperwork in hand to be deemed to be speaking

Fwd: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-24 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Jan 19, 2008 3:20 PM, firestorm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G wrote: :I really think you should let the other participants of the thread speak for themselves it wouild be difficult to stop someone from speaking for themselves. Sure, but it is easy to misrepresent another person's views

Re: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-19 Thread firestorm
well..no. there is a 1 in 10^6 chance that a female mule may have been passed on sufficient genetic matieral to be able to reproduce. http://www.lovelongears.com/faq beyond that what is a jack, in re equines? http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=jack http://muleschool.com/_wsn/page8.html

Re: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-19 Thread firestorm
sir, my very sincere apoliogies, and a sincere assurance that there is no patronisation, no deamning, no anything other than respect for ur pov in paying attentiuon to the fact that ur cv seems to have a math flavour. :I really think you should let the other participants of the thread speak

Re: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-18 Thread Brent Poirier Attorney
Gilberto wrote: But then does it make sense to say that they eventually crucified that divine Spirit, the Word of God? Wouldn't these terms apply to the spiritual aspect? I think that here, the Master is referring to Jesus by these terms, rather than only referring to His spiritual aspect; just

Re: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-18 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Jan 18, 2008 4:54 AM, Brent Poirier Attorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gilberto wrote: But then does it make sense to say that they eventually crucified that divine Spirit, the Word of God? Wouldn't these terms apply to the spiritual aspect? I think that here, the Master is referring to

Re: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-18 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Jan 18, 2008 2:53 PM, firestorm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gilberto, :-) after i recalled ur skillset, ur reasoning becomes crystal. I certainly don't feel understood. I do feel patronized by your comments about my skillset. I don't think your use of math/techie analogies is helpful or

Re: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-18 Thread firestorm
gilberto, :-) after i recalled ur skillset, ur reasoning becomes crystal. excuse me if i am replying to the wrong thread, but i would offer u these: :Just because there are good decent people who are Christian doesn't prove that the Bible is a perfectly authentic text. that is not the

Re: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-18 Thread Scott Saylors
You can breed a male mule. It's called a Jack. It will be sterile however and incapable of breeding anything. Regards, Scott firestorm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gilberto, :-) after i recalled ur skillset, ur reasoning becomes crystal. excuse me if i am replying to the wrong thread, but i

Re: Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

2008-01-17 Thread Gilberto Simpson
Some of these answers seem inconsistent and I'm wondering if the issue can be clarified. My understanding of what you are trying to say is that the physical aspect of Jesus died on the cross but in some spiritual sense, he survived. Is that correct? On Jan 17, 2008 7:46 AM, Brent Poirier Attorney

the crucifixion of Jesus

2005-01-18 Thread Mina Yazdani
Dear Friends, Allah'u'Abha. 1- I am looking for the source of Abdu'l-Baha's explanation/interpretation on the Quranic verse 4: 157, where He explains that the meaning of that verse is not that Jesus was not crucified (as the popular Muslim understanding is), but that the spiritual infuence and

Re: the crucifixion of Jesus

2005-01-18 Thread Mark A. Foster
Mina, At 02:44 AM 1/18/2005, you wrote: Has the beloved Guardian ever written on the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ? If yes, where? 1646. The Crucifixion as Recorded in the New Testament is Correct ...Though we cannot imagine exactly what the Manifestations of the remote past

Re: the crucifixion of Jesus

2005-01-18 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:10:45 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...We do not believe that there was a bodily resurrection after the Crucifixion of Christ, but that there was a time after His Ascension when His disciples perceived spiritually His true greatness and realized He

Re: the crucifixion of Jesus

2005-01-18 Thread JS
One way I would look at it is that the story is vivid in order to prove a point. Above and beyond the spiritual - allegorical point that is made, the story of Jesus's rising from the dead and walking around is fiction. Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:10:45 -0600,

Re: the crucifixion of Jesus

2005-01-18 Thread Popeyesays
In a message dated 1/18/2005 11:26:21 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure, that's something of how I might make sense of the Biblicalaaccounts myself. But still, I wonder if that was the case, even ifyou are going to say the story is fiction, why would Thomas be writtenthat