Archbishop's talk and the Message of the Universal House of Justice

2004-04-03 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
Dear friends on these luminous lists I would beg you to have a look at this talk of the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams in Washington last week http://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/sermons_speeches/040329.html

Re: Letters of the Living

2004-04-03 Thread Ahang Rabbani
Dear Sandra, David was asking for references by Shoghi Effendi or Abdu'l-Baha. What you've posted is by Nabil (translated by Shoghi Effendi). This listing is merely a suggestion by Nabil and no more. Others have suggested other individuals as Letters. Regards, ahang. Please respond to

Re: Letters of the Living

2004-04-03 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Ahang (and David)... Thank you for the clarification Ahang! Particularly, because in God Passes By - not a translation... ;- ) - the Guardian mentions several individuals who, in context, could to be understood as among the Letters of the Living - on pages 10-24. I can't help wondering;

Re: Letters of the Living

2004-04-03 Thread Dean Betts
Why do you say this is merely a suggestion by Nabil? - Original Message - From: Ahang Rabbani To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Letters of the Living Dear Sandra, David was asking for references by Shoghi Effendi or

Re: Letters of the Living

2004-04-03 Thread David Friedman
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No further new public revelations.

2004-04-03 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
"and we now await no further newpublic revelation before the glorious manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ (cf. 1 Tim 6:14 and Tit 2:13)”.10 True! He does state that there will be no further new public revelations, etc. Yet, he qualifies the statement and speaks of "manifestation". There

Re: Archbishop's talk and the Message of the Universal House of Justice

2004-04-03 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Khazeh, At 09:43 AM 4/3/2004, you quoted: Thus an early Christian was an atheist because he or she refused to be part of a complex system in which political and religious loyalties were inseparably bound up. ‘Atheism’ was a decision to place certain loyalties above those owed to the

Re: Letters of the Living

2004-04-03 Thread Ahang Rabbani
Dear Dean, You wrote: Why do you say this is merely a suggestion by Nabil? I think you were on Tarikh when we had a thorough discussion of this, and hopefully you kept up with the arguments and don't want me to reinvent the wheel now. Nabil was in no position to know *exactly* who the

Re: Letters of the Living

2004-04-03 Thread Ahang Rabbani
Dear Sandra, Ahang, can you offer an opinion on how identification of the Eighteen might be resolved eventually? In my view, I don't think it can be solved. I think we can be certain of some and will never know for sure about others. For instance, any list of Letters of the Living will have