Dear Hasan,
If it is the same documentary on the anti-Christ which appeared on the
history channel it is an excellent documentary.
warmest, Susan
Susan thanks for answer, I remember I saw a documentary in
Discovey channel, christian theologians interpret 666 this way.
But is clear that
Dear Hasan,
I think both clay and fire can be understood metaphorically.
warmest, Susan
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From: Hasan Elias [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2007 10:19 pm
Subject: genies :)
To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Thanks for answer Susan, if there are
Yes, the dictionary isn't of much help when it comes to understanding
what the Guardian meant by not proselytizing.
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From: M Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, March 26, 2007 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: proselytize/teach
To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
What I
In a recent cluster meeting it had a list of things like home
visits and
devotional meetings that people could aim to take part in. It
seems to me
that home visits can be limited by ones age and gender. I'm 29
and most
people in my community are middle aged. If I rang one of them
In order to advance to an A cluster a certain number of people
must complete
a few of the courses.
Dear David,
Not a 'few' of the courses. In order to become an A cluster there
must be 30-50 people who have completed the *entire sequence* of
courses.
Since I don't really learn
What kind of cult would the Faith be if you were allowed to do
that;-?!
Seriously, taking the courses by yourself would destroy their whole
purpose which is not to teach us certain things but to get us as a
community *doing* certain things. So the books are useless without the
practices.
There are many examples like these. Maybe a facilitator, out of
courtesy, would not say
That answer is wrong, but an answer can still be wrong or
right, even if no one calls it that.
The notion that there are no right or wrong answers may hold
for some open ended questions, but for
accelerated courses ignore completely the praxis.
Dear Hasan,
And that's why when A clusters are created by using accelerated
courses without implementing the practices growth does not occur. It's
self-defeating. If Ruhi is anything at all, it *is* the practices.
warmest, Susan
The
This means that
free and obligatory education would cause people freedom to choose
their academic plan,
Dear Hasan,
I don't get the impression from the Writings that education will
necessarily be free. In fact the Aqdas requires a father educate his
children and only if he cannot afford
Dear David,
Look at the last sentence from the letter written on the Guardian's
behalf and its emphasis on 'varied.' It seems to me this is very much
in accord with the House's letter:
The
Assembly should be representative of the choicest and most varied
and
capable elements in
Well, how obligatory education is obligatory if it is not free?
Dear Hasan,
It is obligatory because the Aqdas requires a father to educate his
son. If the father fails to do so the House of Justice has the right
to take the money from the father. If he cannot afford it, then the
House of
Doesn't the word only imply that only what is mentioned here can
be
considered? The House makes various appeals to Shoghi Effendi in
the
relevant paragraph, but a quotation is noticeably absent when they
say:
From among the pool of those whom the elector believes to be
qualified to
My
guess of
what Shoghi Effendi meant when he spoke of varied elements in the
community
would relate to the skills different people can offer. Certainly
not to
making sure we have a diverse mix of ethnic groups on the
Assembly.
Dear David,
Why is that certain?
I can't see
I agree with the feeling that education for all should mean
free education.
Dear Loic,
The thing is that the Aqdas doesn't talk about free education for all,
it talks about free education for those who can't afford it. But
ordinarily, according to the Aqdas the father is responsible for
Dear Hasan,
Theoretically all jobs in Baha'i offices are volunteer services, not
occupations. People are paid for them if they cannot otherwise serve.
In the US we have three paid secretaries and one paid treasurer on the
NSA, but there are many NSA who don't pay their officers at all.
Dear Friends on the winews, academics, and highered listservers:
The Wilmette Institute's course on the development of the Baha'i
community in the context of the Five Year Plan has been undergoing a
lot of revising in the last week or so. The Universal House of
Justice's recent message about
Dear Brent,
According to what a House member told me, there is a statement from
the Guardian to the effect that the House of Justice will be needed to
consolidate the Lesser Peace. That is why they were so determined to
finish the Arc before the end of the century. There needs to be a
Dear David,
I don't think of the Universal House of Justice as an individual
person having a will which 'wants' something beyond what they
explicitly ask for.
warmest, Susan
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From: David Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:29 am
Subject:
It's the same reason he discouraged people from displaying
photos of himself.
Dear Scott,
I'm not sure it is the same. The Persian believers have entire prayer
books full of his prayers. We do have a couple of prayers written by
the Guardian. The one he wrote after the passing of Bahiyyih
LOL. I have dogs and cats too. It seems they dream. But the Master
says something like without seeing you see, but the dogs and
cats with eyes closed also see in dreams no?
Probably. At least my dog seems to be chasing a rabbit. It would seem
that even with animals the imagination is more
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I did not know about
that directive or I wouldn't have asked. Does anyone have a source
where Shoghi Effendi says this?
Dear Larry,
I don't think there is any directive. But given the fact that so many
of Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l-Baha's prayers
I'm not sure I find that a compelling argument. After all, if it
were true, then the Guardian would have translated nothing at all.
Dear Scott,
I'm not sure I understand your logic here.
I think it more likely that he wrote the prayers in Persian for
the Persian friends, but never
?:
Movements, newly-born and world-wide in their range, will exert
their utmost effort for the advancement of their designs. The
Movement of the Left will acquire great importance. Its influence
will spread.
- 'Abdu'l-Bahá wrote in Selections of the Writings -
Dear Hasan,
I'm not
Ok, I want to define the significance of the term left movements
used by the Master in Selections of the Writings. I need to know
the differences between this term and the current politic parties
and governments of the left side.
Dear Hasan,
Unfortunately this is from a talk and I don't
Ah, so it is from the Writings, not a talk. I'll check on Tarjuman and
find out what phrase was translated as Movement of the Left.
In any case, all the things Abdu'l-Baha predicted occurred during the
interwar period before WWII.
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From: Barbara Clements [EMAIL
The first accusation is one easily made for any religion but difficult
to substantiate. The second would apply to Islam and in pre-modern
times to Christianity and Judaism as well.
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From: M Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, May 11, 2007 0:05 am
Subject:
Dear Hasan,
I found the statement you were referring to on the other list. It was
made by an ex-Baha'i who does not accept the authority of letters
written on the Guardian's behalf. But since that list has a no-
forwarding rule we should probably not be discussing those threads
here.
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