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2005-05-31 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Jim, Being a bit confused about your own position with regard to this statement: What I am suggesting is that we each have a responsibility to promote the best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth, to the best of our knowledge, understanding, and capacity, even if it means

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2005-05-29 Thread Jim Habegger
Susan, I'm sorry I trouble you so much. This climber says with some dismay, I must leave this mountain for another day. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL

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2005-05-29 Thread Michael Alcorn
Sent: 29 May 2005 12:51 To: Baha'i Studies Subject: RE: puzzled by Jim Susan, I'm sorry I trouble you so much. This climber says with some dismay, I must leave this mountain for another day. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL

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2005-05-28 Thread Jim Habegger
Dear brother Khazeh, greetings! Here are my axioms: - Baha'u'llah is always right. What I am suggesting is that we each have a responsibility to promote the best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth, to the best of our knowledge, understanding, and capacity, even if it means

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2005-05-28 Thread Jim Habegger
Again, I am not trying to demonstrate that, or to provide evidence for it. I'm only saying what I think, and asking for any reasons anyone sees, to disagree with me. Jim __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com

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2005-05-28 Thread Jim Habegger
Sorry! I'm posting on the Web, and I keep forgetting that this is a mailing list. I'm suggesting that it pleases God for each of us to promote the best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth, to the best of our knowledge, understanding, and capacity, even if it means promoting

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2005-05-28 Thread Jim Habegger
Khazeh, do you see any reason in the Constitution of the Universal House of Justice, to disagree with my view that it pleases God for each of us to promote the best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth, to the best of our knowledge, understanding, and capacity, even if it means

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2005-05-28 Thread Susan Maneck
What I am suggesting is that we each have a responsibility to promote the best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth, to the best of our knowledge, understanding, and capacity, even if it means promoting ideas that seem to us to contradict what the Universal House of Justice has

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2005-05-28 Thread Susan Maneck
To put that in context, I could say with equal confidence that it pleases God for each of us to promote the best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth, to the best of our knowledge, understanding, and capacity, even if it means promoting ideas that seem to us to contradict what

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2005-05-28 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
do you see any reason in the Constitution of the Universal House of Justice, to disagree with my view that it pleases God for each of us to promote the best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth, to the best of our knowledge, understanding, and capacity, even if it means promoting

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2005-05-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
I haven't been following this thread very closley but the following just struck me. Perhaps you made a typographical error or something? I knw that Susan and Khazeh responded to you quite cogently. As you know, the whole theme of the BayAn, the Aqdas, and just about all of our Sacred Writings is

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2005-05-28 Thread Jim Habegger
Has anyone here ever read the Seven Valleys and the Four Valleys? Jim __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the

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2005-05-28 Thread Jim Habegger
Iskandar, you are very welcome to jump in! As you know, the whole theme of the Bayan, the Aqdas, and just about all of our Sacred Writings is that acquiring or attaining the good pleasure of God is the only thing that counts. Right? Absolutely. Jim

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2005-05-28 Thread Dean Betts
What I am suggesting is that we each have a responsibility to promote the best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth, to the best of our knowledge, understanding, and capacity, even if it means promoting ideas that seem to us to contradict what the Universal House of Justice has

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2005-05-28 Thread Susan Maneck
Has anyone here ever read the Seven Valleys and the Four Valleys? Dear Jim, Why are you asking a question like that? warmest, Susan __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email

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2005-05-28 Thread Susan Maneck
. . . yet, alas, there is no ear to hear, nor heart to understand. (Baha'u'llah, The Persian Hidden Words) Why are you putting up that phrase? __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe:

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2005-05-28 Thread Jim Habegger
The denizens of this plane speak no words -- but they gallop their chargers. They see but the inner reality of the Beloved. To them all words of sense are meaningless, and senseless words are full of meaning. They cannot tell one limb from another, one part from another. To them the mirage is

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2005-05-28 Thread Susan Maneck
And your point is? __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:

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2005-05-28 Thread Tim Nolan
Jim, Here are my axioms:- Baha'u'llah is always right. What about the Universal House of Justice? Do you believe they are also always right? Yes, they are not omniscient, butdo you believe their decisions always "the truth and the purpose of God Himself"? Tim

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2005-05-28 Thread Susan Maneck
Dear Jim, As one of the moderators of this list I would like to ask you to stop posting quotations here without comment. This behavior is not in keeping with the list purpose which is Baha'i scholarship. warmest, Susan __ You are subscribed