Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Extend Origin Trial: Compression Dictionary Transport

Hi, blink-dev@ folks. Let me announce the start of the new Origin Trial for the Compression Dictionary Transport feature. If you are already experimenting with it you'll need to register for a new token

[blink-dev] Intent to Continue Experimenting: Tabbed Web Apps

Contact emailsloubr...@google.com, glen...@chromium.org , mgi...@chromium.org, bre...@chromium.org Explainer https://github.com/WICG/manifest-incubations/blob/gh-pages/tabbed-mode-explainer.md Specificationhttps://github.com/WICG/manifest-incubations/pull/95 (draft) Summary Allow web app

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Used color scheme root scrollbars

Apologies if this isn't the correct place to ask this but I have this working in Chrome Canary and as fantastic as it is, they behavior on some websites has me confused: on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and amazon.com the scrollbar is dark, but neither of those webpages have a dark

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

LGTM3 On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:35 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) wrote: > LGTM2 > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 7:23 PM Mike Taylor wrote: > >> LGTM1 >> On 3/6/24 11:00 AM, Vladimir Levin wrote: >> >> Re failing tests: >> The flag is currently in "test" status >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Add JavaScript timer wake up alignment for unimportant cross-origin frames

Switching to an Intent to Ship sounds good. Can you update the process stage in the ChromeStatus tool, fill out any necessary fields that differ between the stages, and either start a new thread, or paste the newly-generated Intent here? On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 2:48 AM Etienne Pierre-doray wrote:

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Deprecate: Mutation Events

Quick update and PSA on this deprecation thread. The update is that usage seems to be dropping fairly rapidly, which is good. I've also been able to turn off mutation events for all of Google's internal web tests, and

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

Asking as a user, the spec draft recommends that user agents... ... show some form of user-visible notification that informs the user when > a pressure observer is active, as well as provides the user with the means > to block the

Re: [blink-dev] Web-Facing Change PSA: SharedWorker script inherit controller for blob script URL

2024年3月6日(水) 19:21 Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) : > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:01 AM Yoshisato Yanagisawa < > yyanagis...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> Contact emailsyyanagis...@google.com >> >> Specification >> https://w3c.github.io/ServiceWorker/#control-and-use-worker-client >> >> Summary >> >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: PNA permission prompt for non-fetch requests

Thank you; that helps a lot! On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 1:34 AM Yifan Luo wrote: > I updated the name to "Content Security Policy for PNA permission prompt". > > Intent to Prototype: Content Security Policy for PNA permission prompt > > Contact emails...@chromium.org > > Explainer >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Private Aggregation debug mode for auctionReportBuyers reporting

Removal being guaranteed to be backwards compatible depends, at a minimum, on nullability. As this API would, instead, be globally exposed (but would not "work" when 3p cookie ineligible), addition and removal present the usual crop of addition and deprecation issues. 3p cookie turndown is now

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Private Aggregation debug mode for auctionReportBuyers reporting

Hey Alex, Totally understand the concern given how difficult removing web APIs typically is. However, I think for this case removal should be much simpler as the functionality (and debug mode more generally) is already tied to third-party cookie eligibility*. In other words, after third-party

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to ship: MP4 container support for MediaRecorder

Request for Mozilla: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/996. Yes, the new feature already works on Safari. On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 8:53:12 AM UTC-8 mike...@chromium.org wrote: > We met today and discussed this intent as OWNERS, and would like you to > still request

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

In https://github.com/w3c/compute-pressure/issues/14 an engineer from Zoom expressed interest in this feature. Do you know if Zoom or any of the other developers mentioned in the TAG review have deployed an experiment

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

LGTM2 On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 7:23 PM Mike Taylor wrote: > LGTM1 > On 3/6/24 11:00 AM, Vladimir Levin wrote: > > Re failing tests: > The flag is currently in "test" status >

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

LGTM1 On 3/6/24 11:00 AM, Vladimir Levin wrote: Re failing tests: The flag is currently in "test" status  which I

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Add JavaScript timer wake up alignment for unimportant cross-origin frames

I'm working with Zheda and Francois to get this feature out, chiming in In general, I think it's best to file a formal Intent to Ship if you want > to go to 50% stable. > I agree, I'd consider this feature ready to ship, we have enough confidence from previous stable experiments to roll it out.

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: CSSImportRule.styleSheet

(resending to list since I accidentally dropped it) Hi, We discussed this intent in the API Owner meeting, and I ended up with some questions. Question 1: What is the current behaviour in the case where the specification wants us to return null? Question 2: I understand that Gecko

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Protected Audience: Downsampled forDebugOnly & Increase number of component ads

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:00 PM Paul Jensen wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 12:24 PM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < > yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 6:07 PM 'Orr Bernstein' via blink-dev < >> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> Contact emails >>> >>>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Private Aggregation debug mode for auctionReportBuyers reporting

Hey all, This may be overfitting against my personal priors, but I'm *intensely *skeptical of any web platform API addition that claims to be "temporary". If we want a temporary mechanism, we can use OTs and set a date-certain for removal and prevent over-use that would back us into a corner.

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to ship: MP4 container support for MediaRecorder

We met today and discussed this intent as OWNERS, and would like you to still request a vendor position from Mozilla (as I requested earlier). If this change doesn't result in interop with Safari, can you also file a vendor position for them? My read of the explainer is that we should be

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: FedCM CORS requirement on ID assertion endpoint

No, Sec-Fetch-Dest is not changing. Sec-Fetch-Mode is. On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 11:31:35 AM UTC-5 Chris Harrelson wrote: > On Wed, Mar

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to ship: MP4 container support for MediaRecorder

LGTM3 At a higher level, it would be great for AV1/VP9 encode to end up in something like Interop. It makes me sad to be adding a vote here to enable a closed format when open ones are better. On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 8:43:11 AM UTC-8 Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > LGTM2 > > I think that >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to ship: MP4 container support for MediaRecorder

LGTM2 I think that https://wpt.fyi/results/mediacapture-record?label=master=experimental=mp4 are the relevant tests. LGTM assuming all of these tests pass with MediaRecorderEnableMp4Muxer enabled. If that's not the case, is there some functionality that won't be supported initially? On Wed, Mar

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ethe xperiment: Document Subtitle (Fix PWA app titles)

Hey Diego, Can you clarify what milestones you're requesting for the OT? thx, Mike On 2/21/24 11:16 AM, 'Diego Gonzalez' via blink-dev wrote: Hola Manuel, Thanks for the heads up. In order for this to be an HTML PR, it requires interest from another vendor

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Sec-CH-UA-Form-Factor client hint

LGTM3, contingent on the rename Domenic is requesting. On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 6:48:14 PM UTC-8 Mike Taylor wrote: > (non-owner hat on) - Thanks for flagging, Domenic. We'll re-ping the > thread once we decide if we should rename it, and to what. > On 2/28/24 9:43 PM, Domenic

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: PNA permission prompt for non-fetch requests

I updated the name to "Content Security Policy for PNA permission prompt". Intent to Prototype: Content Security Policy for PNA permission prompt Contact emails...@chromium.org Explainer

[blink-dev] Intent to Extend Experiment: Extending Storage Access API (SAA) to non-cookie storage

Contact emails aric...@chromium.org, wanderv...@chromium.org, johann...@chromium.org, cfred...@chromium.org, kaustub...@chromium.org Specification https://privacycg.github.io/saa-non-cookie-storage/ Feedback https://github.com/privacycg/saa-non-cookie-storage/issues Design Doc

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: FedCM CORS requirement on ID assertion endpoint

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nicolás Peña wrote: > > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 5:11:09 AM UTC-5 Yoav Weiss wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:21 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < > yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:36 PM Mike Taylor wrote: > > LGTM1 > On 3/4/24

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

Please see below for aggregated and manually vetted OT feedback that was shared as per Google's policy: - 100% of the respondents are extremely likely to continue using the API. - 43% of the respondents found the API 'Extremely easy', 43% found it 'Neither easy nor difficult' and 14%

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: FedCM CORS requirement on ID assertion endpoint

On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 5:11:09 AM UTC-5 Yoav Weiss wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:21 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:36 PM Mike Taylor wrote: LGTM1 On 3/4/24 1:33 PM, Nicolás Peña wrote: Contact emails n...@chromium.org

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: 'pageswap' event

LGTM3 On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:21 AM Daniel Bratell wrote: > LGTM2 > > /Daniel > On 2024-03-06 16:58, 'Khushal Sagar' via blink-dev wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 6:32 AM Manuel Rego Casasnovas > wrote: > >> What's going on with the tests? >> >> >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: 'pageswap' event

LGTM2 /Daniel On 2024-03-06 16:58, 'Khushal Sagar' via blink-dev wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 6:32 AM Manuel Rego Casasnovas wrote: What's going on with the tests?

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

Re failing tests: The flag is currently in "test" status which I don't believe would be picked up by wpt.fyi

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: 'pageswap' event

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 6:32 AM Manuel Rego Casasnovas wrote: > What's going on with the tests? > > > https://wpt.fyi/results/html/browsers/browsing-the-web/history-traversal/pageswap?label=master=experimental=chrome=firefox=safari The code to dispatch this event is partly in the browser

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Private Aggregation debug mode for auctionReportBuyers reporting

LGTM2 On 3/6/24 5:39 AM, Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) wrote: LGTM1 On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 7:29 PM Alex Turner wrote: Contact emails ale...@chromium.org Explainer

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

The design of this looks great. Filed a couple of very minor spec nuts https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/10180 On Monday 4 March 2024 at 16:36:43 UTC vmp...@chromium.org wrote: > Contact emailsvmp...@chromium.org, nrose...@chromium.org > > Explainer >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 4:00 PM 'Ajay Rahatekar' via blink-dev < blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote: > As Kenneth mentioned, the aggregated/anonymized feedback (largely > positive) was shared with the Intel team in consultation with the Google > Privacy team. Internal copy is available as needed. >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Interoperable mousemove default action

No, issue 327409885 is related to the PSA on canceling mousedown in iframe . On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 5:25 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) wrote: > Is https://issues.chromium.org/issues/327409885 related here? > > On

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: CSSImportRule.styleSheet

Sorry for the delay. I am not sure if there is any interest from developers. The spec was updated last April [1]. I started this from the spec change and the related crbug. I filed an issue[2] last week and got a comment[3] in WebKit. The reviewer's worry would be that the lifetime of these

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

As Kenneth mentioned, the aggregated/anonymized feedback (largely positive) was shared with the Intel team in consultation with the Google Privacy team. Internal copy is available as needed. On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 5:57:47 AM UTC-8 kenneth.ch...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 7:14 PM Reilly Grant wrote: > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:56 AM Mike Taylor wrote: > >> During this origin trial we realized that the full capacity of the API >> couldn’t be tested due to a lack of support for third-party tokens. An Origin >> Trial extension >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

We will update the TAG issue. Thanks for pointing that out. There is already an entry for WebKit: https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/255 and Jeffrey made them aware of the mitigations we put in place. Kenneth On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:11 PM Manuel Rego Casasnovas wrote: > >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:28 PM Noam Rosenthal wrote: > > g it using JS at a particular point. It allows a tradeoff between > smoothness and speed, regardless of view transitions. > OK. In this case it might be interesting to think through current use-cases for such

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

> > g it using JS at a particular point. It allows a tradeoff between smoothness and speed, regardless of view transitions. >>> >>> OK. In this case it might be interesting to think through current >>> use-cases for such initial page hiding (e.g. A/B testing comes to mind) and >>>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:50 PM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) wrote: > I see this sentence which mentions the alternative, but doesn't really > clarify why it isn't sufficient. If external pressure harms the app's ability > to do what it wants to do, wouldn't that be measurable? The ability to act

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:40 PM Kenneth Rohde Christiansen < kenneth.christian...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> The other issue raised is around the usefulness (or lack thereof) of apps >> changing behavior based on system load, rather than based on the time is >> takes them to achieve certain

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

> The other issue raised is around the usefulness (or lack thereof) of apps > changing behavior based on system load, rather than based on the time is > takes them to achieve certain tasks. Was that discussed somewhere? > That is mentioned in the README (linked to from the spec): Goals /

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:25 PM Noam Rosenthal wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:10 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < > yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:04 PM Noam Rosenthal >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:55 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < >>>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: 'pageswap' event

What's going on with the tests? https://wpt.fyi/results/html/browsers/browsing-the-web/history-traversal/pageswap?label=master=experimental=chrome=firefox=safari Thanks, Rego On 06/03/2024 11:57, Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) wrote: LGTM1 On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Noam Rosenthal

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:10 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:04 PM Noam Rosenthal > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:55 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < >> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 5:36 PM

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:10 PM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:04 PM Noam Rosenthal > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:55 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < >> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 5:36 PM

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

The TAG asked to be updated after the experimental phase, but the issue hasn't been updated yet: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/795#issuecomment-1691188175 Also for WebKit position, we might want to fill a new issue in the new place:

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:04 PM Noam Rosenthal wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:55 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < > yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 5:36 PM Vladimir Levin >> wrote: >> >>> Contact emailsvmp...@chromium.org, nrosent...@chromium.org >>> >>>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:55 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 5:36 PM Vladimir Levin wrote: > >> Contact emailsvmp...@chromium.org, nrosent...@chromium.org >> >> Explainer >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: 'pageswap' event

LGTM1 On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Noam Rosenthal wrote: > Summary The `pageswap` event is fired on a Document's window object when a navigation will replace this Document with a new Document. The event provides activation info about the navigation (type,

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Document Render-Blocking

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 5:36 PM Vladimir Levin wrote: > Contact emailsvmp...@chromium.org, nrosent...@chromium.org > > Explainer > https://github.com/WICG/view-transitions/blob/main/document-render-blocking.md#blocking-element-id > Thanks for the explainer. It's very useful!! The explainer

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: 'pageswap' event

> > >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> The `pageswap` event is fired on a Document's window object when a >>> navigation will replace this Document with a new Document. The event >>> provides activation info about the navigation (type, NavigationHistoryEntry >>> for the new Document). If the navigation has a

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Private Aggregation debug mode for auctionReportBuyers reporting

LGTM1 On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 7:29 PM Alex Turner wrote: > Contact emailsale...@chromium.org > > Explainer > https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/FLEDGE_extended_PA_reporting.md#temporary-debugging-mechanism > > Specification >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: 'pageswap' event

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 12:16 AM Chris Harrelson wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 3:11 PM 'Khushal Sagar' via blink-dev < > blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote: > >> Contact emailskhushalsa...@chromium.org, nrosent...@chromium.org >> >> Explainer >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: CSSImportRule.styleSheet

Friendly ping on the above questions! :) On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 6:18 PM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > Do I understand correctly that this would partially align us with Firefox > (modulo the crash), and take us away from WebKit interoperability? > > If so, it'd be good

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Interoperable mousemove default action

Is https://issues.chromium.org/issues/327409885 related here? On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 6:09 PM Mustaq Ahmed wrote: > UKM data shows that only a few popular sites are affecting our > use-counters. We already confirmed that one of those sites is not broken > at all, only showing text selection on

Re: [blink-dev] Web-Facing Change PSA: SharedWorker script inherit controller for blob script URL

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:01 AM Yoshisato Yanagisawa < yyanagis...@chromium.org> wrote: > Contact emailsyyanagis...@google.com > > Specification > https://w3c.github.io/ServiceWorker/#control-and-use-worker-client > > Summary > > According to >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: FedCM CORS requirement on ID assertion endpoint

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:21 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:36 PM Mike Taylor wrote: > >> LGTM1 >> On 3/4/24 1:33 PM, Nicolás Peña wrote: >> >> Contact emails >> >> n...@chromium.org >> >> Explainer >> >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: FedCM CORS requirement on ID assertion endpoint

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:36 PM Mike Taylor wrote: > LGTM1 > On 3/4/24 1:33 PM, Nicolás Peña wrote: > > Contact emails > > n...@chromium.org > > Explainer > > https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/issues/428 > > A few lines summarizing this issue would be most useful when evaluating this and

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Compute Pressure

Reilly, We do not have direct access (non-googlers) to the OT feedback unfortunately. We are working with our google contact to publish a summary. On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 8:14:45 PM UTC+2 rei...@chromium.org wrote: > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:56 AM Mike Taylor wrote: > >> >> On 3/5/24