Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: New ALPS code point

2024-02-02 Thread Victor Tan
the code point PR is merged. Feel free to take a look again. Thanks. On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-5 Victor Tan wrote: > create a PR for the code point change on the RFC draft, will work on > there: https://github.com/vasilvv/tls-alps/pull/15, thanks. > >

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: New ALPS code point

2024-01-24 Thread Victor Tan
ium. I will also chat with some folks on Microsoft’s end that both own > server implementations and have more IETF experience to explore how we can > help with moving things forward. > > > > *From:* Victor Tan > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2024 9:00 AM > *To:* blink-dev

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: New ALPS code point

2024-01-24 Thread Victor Tan
assumed they'd go into one of the relevant > I-Ds.. > > >> >> Erik, thank you for your offer of help on the standardization front! It >> definitely sounds to me like we should be pushing on the full standards >> effort in parallel to this specific intent. Havi

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: New ALPS code point

2024-01-23 Thread 'Victor Tan' via blink-dev
To be clarify, currently David is not working on the standardizing ALPS feature. On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 11:27:41 AM UTC-5 Victor Tan wrote: > Hi Erik, > We are actively working on it, but we need to put more efforts to > standardization. > In the last serval

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: New ALPS code point

2024-01-23 Thread 'Victor Tan' via blink-dev
slowed conversations with the teams that own the server code > that would need to add support first. > > > > Are you looking for help in moving standardization forward? > > > > *From:* Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) > *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 7:39 AM > *To:* Vi

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: New ALPS code point

2024-01-22 Thread Victor Tan
rmance optimization). >> >> I hope that helps clear it up, and I'm sure Victor or David will chime in >> if I'm getting something wrong. :) >> >> And to be clear - this isn't a request for a deprecation or removal >> (yet), but for shipping the new code point. >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: New ALPS code point

2024-01-17 Thread Victor Tan
do is trying to mitigate a bug in the old code point, not to re-active or de-active any feature. On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:16:47 AM UTC-5 Manuel Rego wrote: > > > On 13/01/2024 00:08, Victor Tan wrote: > > TAG review > > > > https://github.com/w3ctag/design-

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: New ALPS code point

2024-01-17 Thread Victor Tan
, the server need to support both code points during the transition period, after some time, the server can drop the old one. On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:00:13 AM UTC-5 Yoav Weiss wrote: > On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 12:08:33 AM UTC+1 Victor Tan wrote: > > Contact emails &

[blink-dev] Intent to Ship: New ALPS code point

2024-01-12 Thread Victor Tan
Contact emails victor...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org, david...@chromium.org Explainer https://github.com/WICG/client-hints-infrastructure/blob/main/reliability.md Specification https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-davidben-http-client-hint-reliability

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement and Ship: User-Agent Client Hints on Android WebView

2023-09-26 Thread Victor Tan
Hi blink-dev, User-agent client hint is currently ramping up to 100% of the stable release population, enabling default TOT on Android WebView. Best, Victor On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 1:09:55 PM UTC-4 Victor Tan wrote: > Hi blink-dev, > > User-agent client hint is currentl

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement and Ship: User-Agent Client Hints on Android WebView

2023-09-12 Thread Victor Tan
Hi blink-dev, User-agent client hint is currently ramping up to 10% of the stable release population on Android WebView. Best, Victor On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 2:13:52 PM UTC-4 Victor Tan wrote: > Hi blink-dev, > > User-agent client hint is currently ramping up to 1% of t

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement and Ship: User-Agent Client Hints on Android WebView

2023-08-29 Thread Victor Tan
or all the >>> diligence you've done on understanding and navigating the platform >>> constraints! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 10:45 PM 'Victor Tan' via blink-dev < >>> bli

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement and Ship: User-Agent Client Hints on Android WebView

2023-08-23 Thread 'Victor Tan' via blink-dev
can anyone take a look at this? thanks. :) On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 1:40:38 PM UTC-4 Chris Harrelson wrote: > LGTM1 > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 2:19 PM Victor Tan wrote: > >> Currently, we haven't confirmed the public plan for user-agent reduction >> on

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement and Ship: User-Agent Client Hints on Android WebView

2023-08-15 Thread Victor Tan
Currently, we haven't confirmed the public plan for user-agent reduction on WeView. We won't do user-agent reduction before completing roll-out user-agent client hints. Victor On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 5:13 PM Bhanu Vattikonda wrote: > Is there a corresponding User-Agent reduction plan for

[blink-dev] Intent to Implement and Ship: User-Agent Client Hints on Android WebView

2023-08-15 Thread Victor Tan
Contact emails victor...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org Explainer https://github.com/WICG/client-hints-infrastructure#readme https://github.com/WICG/ua-client-hints#explainer-reducing-user-agent-granularity Specification https://wicg.github.io/ua-client-hints/ Summary User-agent

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 6 (deviceModel and androidVersion reduction in Android)

2023-04-25 Thread Victor Tan
Hi blink-dev, UA Reduction Phase 6 is ramping up to 50% of the stable release population today. Thanks. Victor On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:04:37 PM UTC-4 Victor Tan wrote: > Hi blink-dev, > UA Reduction Phase 6 is currently ramping up to 10% of the stable release > p

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 6 (deviceModel and androidVersion reduction in Android)

2023-04-04 Thread Victor Tan
Hi blink-dev, UA Reduction Phase 6 is currently ramping up to 10% of the stable release population. Thanks. Victor On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 6:41:47 PM UTC-4 Victor Tan wrote: > Hi blink-dev, > UA Reduction Phase 6 is currently ramping up to 5% of the stable release > popul

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 6 (deviceModel and androidVersion reduction in Android)

2023-03-21 Thread Victor Tan
Hi blink-dev, UA Reduction Phase 6 is currently ramping up to 5% of the stable release population. We will keep monitor the change during the 2 week experiment. Thanks. Victor On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:09:41 PM UTC-4 Mike Taylor wrote: > Hi all, > > Correcting my message on 3/3 to be

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 6 (deviceModel and androidVersion reduction in Android)

2023-02-21 Thread Victor Tan
Hi blink-dev, Phase 6 of UA Reduction is currently ramping up to 1% of the stable release population on Android platform. No changes will occur between now and March 21st, 2023, pending site compatibility feedback. Thanks. Best, Victor On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 12:31:56 PM UTC-5 Mike

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 5 (platform and OsCpu reduction)

2023-02-07 Thread Victor Tan
Hi blink-dev, UA Reduction Phase 5 is currently ramping up to 100% of the stable release population. Thanks. Victor On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 4:13:15 PM UTC-5 Victor Tan wrote: > Hi blink-dev, > UA Reduction Phase 5 is currently ramping up to 50% of the stable release > p

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 5 (platform and OsCpu reduction)

2023-01-23 Thread Victor Tan
Hi blink-dev, UA Reduction Phase 5 is currently ramping up to 50% of the stable release population. Thanks. Victor On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:31:08 PM UTC-5 Victor Tan wrote: > Hi blink-dev, > UA Reduction Phase 5 is currently ramping up to 10% of the stable release > popul

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 6 (deviceModel and androidVersion reduction in Android)

2023-01-18 Thread Victor Tan
) wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 12:29, Victor Tan wrote: > >> Hi Torne, >> Thanks for your information. We understand your concern. >> UA-CH in WebView will be shipping in Chrome M110 >> <https://chromestatus.com/feature/4936247663919104>. >> > >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 6 (deviceModel and androidVersion reduction in Android)

2023-01-18 Thread Victor Tan
ties. It >> also does not allow the less-granular OS version to be omitted or spoofed. >> >> It'd be good to have a long term plan for what we're going to do with the >> UA and with UA-CH in WebView that matches Chrome as closely as possible. >> >> On Tue, 17 Jan 2023

[blink-dev] Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 6 (deviceModel and androidVersion reduction in Android)

2023-01-17 Thread Victor Tan
Contact emails victor...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org Explainer https://github.com/WICG/ua-client-hints#explainer-reducing-user-agent-granularity Specification https://www.chromium.org/updates/ua-reduction is the closest thing that specifies Chrome’s UA Reduction plans today. As these

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 5 (platform and OsCpu reduction)

2023-01-09 Thread Victor Tan
Hi blink-dev, UA Reduction Phase 5 is currently ramping up to 10% of the stable release population. We will monitor the change has any impacts. Thanks. Victor On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 4:56:18 PM UTC-5 Victor Tan wrote: > Hi blink-dev, > UA Reduction Phase 5 is currently ramp

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 5 (platform and OsCpu reduction)

2022-12-07 Thread Victor Tan
ould hold for at least a month, enough for us to do a few >>rounds of experimental analysis and debugging. >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 4:32:02 PM UTC-7 mike...@chromium.org >> wrote: >> >>> Howdy blink-dev,

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Reduce Accept-Language Origin Trial

2022-12-05 Thread Victor Tan
A blog post just went out for this Origin Trial: https://developer.chrome.com/blog/origin-trial-for-accept-language-reduction/ On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 5:19:08 PM UTC-4 Victor Tan wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > Thanks for your information. I updated the Chrome Status entry to >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Reduce Accept-Language Origin Trial

2022-11-01 Thread Victor Tan
e or your spec mentor > <https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/blink/spec-mentors> know if > you need help with that. > > Thanks, > Jeffrey > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 10:57 AM Victor Tan > wrote: > >> Contact emails >> >> victor...@

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Reduce Accept-Language Origin Trial

2022-11-01 Thread Victor Tan
e software more > diverse > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 12:57 PM Victor Tan wrote: > >> Contact emails >> >> victor...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org >> >> Explainer >> >> https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language >> >> Specification &

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Experiment: Reduce Accept-Language Origin Trial

2022-11-01 Thread Victor Tan
Hi Brian, Currently, we don't have such a mechanism, but we can see how the origin trial goes regarding the JS interface. Free feel to add your feedback to https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language once the origin trial is available. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 8:32 PM Brian Birtles wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Reduce Accept-Language Origin Trial

2022-10-31 Thread Victor Tan
. > Would M109 to M114 (inclusive) be enough? > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 3:36 PM Victor Tan wrote: > >> Sorry for the unclear end milestone, we would like to experiment from >> M109 to M115. >> >> Bests, >> Victor >> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Reduce Accept-Language Origin Trial

2022-10-31 Thread Victor Tan
Sorry for the unclear end milestone, we would like to experiment from M109 to M115. Bests, Victor On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:34 AM Yoav Weiss wrote: > When do you expect the experiment to end? > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 3:32 PM Victor Tan wrote: > >> We are expected to

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Reduce Accept-Language Origin Trial

2022-10-31 Thread Victor Tan
We are expected to start in M109 Beta until 2023 Q2. We will document more in the web blog post. Bests, Victor On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:12 AM Yoav Weiss wrote: > That's fair. What is the experiment's timeline? > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 3:09 PM Victor Tan wrote: > >>

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Reduce Accept-Language Origin Trial

2022-10-31 Thread Victor Tan
ropy? > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 7:57 PM Victor Tan wrote: > >> Contact emails >> >> victor...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org >> >> Explainer >> >> https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language >> >> Specification >> &

[blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Reduce Accept-Language Origin Trial

2022-10-27 Thread Victor Tan
Contact emails victor...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org Explainer https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language Specification Variants header: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-variants-06 Summary We want to reduce the amount of information the Accept-Language

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 5 (platform and OsCpu reduction)

2022-09-07 Thread Victor Tan
n Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 5:51 PM Daniel Bratell wrote: > >> LGTM2 >> >> /Daniel >> On 2022-09-07 17:50, Chris Harrelson wrote: >> >> LGTM1. If any issues come up during this rollout that affect the plan, >> please bring them back to this thread for our consid

[blink-dev] Intent to Implement & Ship: User-Agent Reduction Phase 5 (platform and OsCpu reduction)

2022-09-01 Thread Victor Tan
Contact emails miketa...@chromium.org, victor...@chromium.org Explainer https://github.com/WICG/ua-client-hints#explainer-reducing-user-agent-granularity Specification https://www.chromium.org/updates/ua-reduction is the closest thing that specifies Chrome’s UA Reduction plans today. As these

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Extend Experiment: User-Agent Reduction Origin Trial

2022-08-09 Thread Victor Tan
Hi, The User-Agent Reduction Origin Trial is now live and will continue to work until Oct 18. Bests, Victor On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 1:44:52 PM UTC-4 Mike Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Hi there, We would like to extend the User-Agent Reduction OT again, > from

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Prototype: Reduce fingerprinting in the Accept-Language header and ​​support for HTTP Variants

2022-05-23 Thread Victor Tan
yea, for malicious site trying to learn all of the user’s language preference, we probably will start rate limit language changes or distinct language lists from a site. It could be practical when taking advantage of the existing storage service (Prefs) in Chromium. I will double check the

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Prototype: Reduce fingerprinting in the Accept-Language header and ​​support for HTTP Variants

2022-05-23 Thread Victor Tan
1. We will start limit navigator.languages to return only a single language. we know it might cause impacts in some cases. Also, will keep tracking how it works in the ecosystem. 2. Users can only know one language, in this case, which makes service confused. We will monitor how the

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Prototype: Reduce fingerprinting in the Accept-Language header and ​​support for HTTP Variants

2022-05-23 Thread Victor Tan
ionate impact on people > without English as their first language. > > > > On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 6:15 PM Victor Tan wrote: > >> The browser will only do language negotiation if necessary. Yea, you are >> right, it would take an extra round trip in some cases. We a

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Prototype: Reduce fingerprinting in the Accept-Language header and ​​support for HTTP Variants

2022-05-22 Thread Victor Tan
one extra round trip per page? > > > On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 5:31 PM Victor Tan wrote: > >> Hi Harald, >> The browser will do language negotiation with resend the request (only >> happen once) with accept-language:en to get a result with English page. >> >>

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Prototype: Reduce fingerprinting in the Accept-Language header and ​​support for HTTP Variants

2022-05-22 Thread Victor Tan
en), the first > response will be in French with a Vary:(fr, en) header? Will the browser > automatically detect that a better alternative is available and re-ask, > imposing an extra RTT, or will the result remain French? > > fre. 20. mai 2022, 19:11 skrev 'Victor Tan' via blink

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Prototype: Reduce fingerprinting in the Accept-Language header and ​​support for HTTP Variants

2022-05-20 Thread 'Victor Tan' via blink-dev
NOTES: This intend won't implement Variants in the HTTP cache. It only focus on using Variants http header as a support-languages head which in the definition on section 2 . On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 10:20:29

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Prototype: Reduce fingerprinting in the Accept-Language header and ​​support for HTTP Variants

2022-05-20 Thread Victor Tan
10:20:29 AM UTC-4 Victor Tan wrote: > Contact emails > > victor...@chromium.org, abe...@chromium.org > > Explainer > > > https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language > Specification > > Variants header: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-va

[blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Reduce fingerprinting in the Accept-Language header and ​​support for HTTP Variants

2022-05-19 Thread Victor Tan
Contact emails victor...@chromium.org, abe...@chromium.org Explainer https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language Specification Variants header: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-variants-06 Summary Support the HTTP Variants header and implement the reduction of

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version-List user-agent client hint

2021-11-23 Thread Victor Tan
Hi, Could you also review and ship this in blink-dev? Thanks! Bests, Victor On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:39:47 AM UTC-5 Victor Tan wrote: > Contact emails > > victor...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org, jadekess...@chromium.org > > > Specification > > https://

[blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version-List user-agent client hint

2021-11-22 Thread Victor Tan
Contact emails victor...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org, jadekess...@chromium.org Specification https://wicg.github.io/ua-client-hints/#sec-ch-ua-full-version-list Summary The Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version-List request header field gives a server information about the full version for each

[blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version-List user-agent client hint

2021-11-02 Thread Victor Tan
Contact emails victor...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org, jadekess...@chromium.org Specification https://wicg.github.io/ua-client-hints/#sec-ch-ua-full-version-list Summary The Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version-List request header field gives a server information about the full version for each