Re: [ccp4bb] Computational crystallography in 2024

2024-05-15 Thread Paul Emsley
On 16/05/2024 01:51, Lucas Bleicher wrote: -- Dear all, I've been outside of the field for a few years (I have very fond memories of the 2008 Crystallographic Computing School, but did a lot of different stuff since then), but I'd love to come back and figured this would be the best place to

[ccp4bb] Computational crystallography in 2024

2024-05-15 Thread Lucas Bleicher
Dear all, I've been outside of the field for a few years (I have very fond memories of the 2008 Crystallographic Computing School, but did a lot of different stuff since then), but I'd love to come back and figured this would be the best place to ask - what are the go-to resources today for those

Re: [ccp4bb] Experimental phasing Selenomethionine data collection etc. tips

2024-05-15 Thread James Holton
Thank you to all who provided helpful suggestions so far. A few things I'd recommend for this particular beamline (which I have been running for 20+ years) Do NOT collect one wavelength at a time. This was a good strategy on old beamlines with noisy detectors and slow, drifty monochromators.

Re: [ccp4bb] Request for help in optimizing Coot for AMD 5950x CPU and RX6600XT GPU hardware PC

2024-05-15 Thread Bernhard Lohkamp
On 15/05/2024 19:03, Paul Emsley wrote: On 13/05/2024 17:38, Otsile Mojanaga wrote: *From:*Otsile Mojanaga *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2024 3:29 PM *To:* Paul Emsley *Subject:* RE: [ccp4bb] Request for help in optimizing Coot for AMD 5950x CPU and RX6600XT GPU hardware PC Dear Paul/All Thank

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Frances C. Bernstein
The old BNL PDB format documents are available at https://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/file-format I looked at the Feb 1992 document to be certain that my memory was correct [I am 6 days shy of 82 and am reassured that my recollection was,in fact, correct] for information about the

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Phil Jeffrey
It says in aforementioned docs: "Alignment of one-letter atom name such as C starts at column 14, while two-letter atom name such as FE starts at column 13. " and no, hopefully they don't mean that, since their example shows plenty of 2-letter and 3-letter atom names starting at column 14 in

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Ian Tickle
'CA' for carbon-alpha is a 2-letter atom name so applying the rule exactly as stated it should start in column 13; it states that only 1-letter atom names (C, N, O) go in column 14. This must be a case of poorly-written documentation; it must mean 'element symbol' not 'atom name' in those cases

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Paul Emsley
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Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Filipe Maia
It is, I think you would agree, unconventional to put a CA label for a main-chain carbon at positions 13 and 14 (I have never seen such a thing). But is it wrong ("Incorrect" - as Harry labels it)? In this case, putting "CHA" in positions 13-15 is unconventional (again, I have never seen such a

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Robbie I’m not actually using PDB files of proteins - I’m using the PDB format files in PDBeChem, because at the moment I’m interested in doing stuff with ligands/substrates/etc. The charges I’ve seen so far seem to be not quite what I’d expect, but I’m prepared to work around that. Harry

Re: [ccp4bb] Request for help in optimizing Coot for AMD 5950x CPU and RX6600XT GPU hardware PC

2024-05-15 Thread Paul Emsley
On 13/05/2024 17:38, Otsile Mojanaga wrote: *From:*Otsile Mojanaga *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2024 3:29 PM *To:* Paul Emsley *Subject:* RE: [ccp4bb] Request for help in optimizing Coot for AMD 5950x CPU and RX6600XT GPU hardware PC Dear Paul/All Thank you for the response. I am on Windows 11

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Paul Emsley
On 15/05/2024 11:28, Harry Powell wrote: Hi folks [...] I noticed this because I was encouraged to try Moorhen and found that a HEM (apparently written by this module) did not have the atoms connected with bonds in the display. Q: Is it necessary to check columns 77-78 if I really want to be

[ccp4bb] Attn: UK Based research groups - UK CryoEM community Meeting - 19th July @Royal Society

2024-05-15 Thread Walsh, Martin (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
Dear all, On behalf of the UK cellular structural biology community, with support from Diamond and Instruct-ERI (UK centre), we would like to alert all UK based groups using or intending to use CryoEM as part of their research, the opportunity to attend a one-day community meeting together

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Harry,It might be better now, but there used to positively charged aspartates in the PDB. You have a better chance taking charges out of the CCD for your atoms of interest. I'm not saying all charges in the CCD are correct, but they are much more reliable. If you find errors, please report them

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Marcin Wojdyr
> It sounds as though you need the power of the script. You can (from memory) > run pdbcur to drop the aniso lines and hydrogen atoms, which helps. Or from command-line: gemmi convert --anisou=no --remove-h in.pdb out.pdb > You could probably get it to delete everything except CA's too. this

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Martin Malý
Dear Jon, If I understand your question right, I would use Gemmi for this purpose: https://gemmi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/mol.html https://gemmi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/analysis.html It's not in GUI, it involves scripting in Python. It's a very powerful tool and capable of working with both

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Andy Purkiss
For those wanting a text editor solution, there is the purpose built pdb-mode plugin for (x)emacs which works under most operating systems. The download location has moved around a bit, but a current version is available from https://github.com/mmagnus/emacs-pdb-mode/ with more details at

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Harry Powell
Hi This is very, very useful and hits on the four-letter name problem that I am encountering - thank you. Saves me trying to produce a new design for a circular object with an axle… For the files that I am trying to use, columns 77-78 are present (actually, columns 79-80 are there so I can

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Jon Cooper
You could probably get it to delete everything except CA's too. Best wishes, Jon Cooper. jon.b.coo...@protonmail.com Sent from Proton Mail mobile Original Message On 15 May 2024, 13:22, Jon Cooper wrote: > It sounds as though you need the power of the script. You can (from

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Jon Cooper
It sounds as though you need the power of the script. You can (from memory) run pdbcur to drop the aniso lines and hydrogen atoms, which helps. Best wishes, Jon Cooper. jon.b.coo...@protonmail.com Sent from Proton Mail mobile Original Message On 15 May 2024, 13:11, Hughes,

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Hughes, Jonathan
hello CCP4 people, rather off-topic: is there a purpose-written windows editor for PDF files? with interleaved anisotropy lines, missing column delimiters etc., simply extracting the B-factors for Ca atoms is hard work using a standard character editor. would anyone think of working with DNA

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Paul Bond
It would also be good to check the monomer library (expanded with any user-supplied dictionaries). Cases where an element in columns 77-78 exists and it does not agree with the component definition should probably be flagged up. Cheers, Paul On Wed, 15 May 2024 at 12:39, Marcin Wojdyr wrote: >

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Marcin Wojdyr
> > > • Alignment of one-letter atom name such as C starts at column 14, while > > two-letter atom name such as FE starts at column 13. > > indicating a rule does exist. There are programs that don't read/write the element from columns 77-78, so this rule still matters, but using it is less

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Harry,Deducing the element from the atom name has always been unreliable so since PDB version 3 you have to get it from columns 77-78. There is no implied element in the atom name anymore.HTH,RobbieOn 15 May 2024 12:28, Harry Powell <193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:Hi folks

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Harry Powell
Sorry - just read that > • Alignment of one-letter atom name such as C starts at column 14, while > two-letter atom name such as FE starts at column 13. indicating a rule does exist. Harry > On 15 May 2024, at 11:54, Harry Powell > <193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: >

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Ezra Thanks for this. In other words, would it be true to say that there are no actual rules about what appears in columns 13-16 because “it's a rose by any other name”? Harry > On 15 May 2024, at 11:38, Ezra Peisach wrote: > > If you take a look at >

Re: [ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Ezra Peisach
If you take a look at https://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/file-format-content/format33/sect9.html#ATOM you will see the following: 77 - 78    LString(2)    element  Element symbol, right-justified. Going by atom name will get you in trouble.  As you stated calcium vs Calpha.  The

[ccp4bb] a dinosaur asks ... PDB format query

2024-05-15 Thread Harry Powell
Hi folks I’m sure that this has been answered many times before (I’m sure that when I was young I even read it here…), and I *know* that we should all be using mmCIF, but I’m using PDB format files generated by a popular Python module and I wanted to check the output against a definitive

[ccp4bb] CCPBioSim Industry Talks - 29 May and 19 June

2024-05-15 Thread Sarah Fegan - STFC UKRI
Hi all, I want to remind you about our next industry talk by Brannon Batson a hardware design engineer at D. E. Shaw Research. The talk "Using specialized hardware pipelines to massively accelerate molecular dynamics simulations in Anton 3" is online Wednesday 29 May 2024, 15:00 UK time. Free