Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-02-02 Thread Jose Brandao-Neto
Hanging or sitting drops, it's there any other reason you're looking for different cover slides? There are hydrophilic/phobic finishings to pick from, plus oil is also an alternative both to treat the surface or to screen in oil (micro)batch. Plus if hanging is your thing, dispense on a

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-02-01 Thread Uma Gabale
We used to use 1% solution of dimethyl dichloro silane in toluene to siliconize glass coverslips. Soak them for 30 min, rinse well with deioinized water, and oven/air dry.Uma. --Uma Gabale, PhDResearch AssociateMolecular and Cellular Biochemistry Indiana University Bloomington On

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Minmin Yu
‎Agree. Nowadays I hardly do hanging drops and crystal clear tapes are good to seal the sitting drop plates too. I mainly use the plastic cover slips to set the cryo drops on for crystal harvesting. They can be put on any plates and the drops are good to be viewed under the microscope. 

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Frank Von Delft
Or do sitting drop, it's much easier all round. Frank Sent from tiny silly touch screen From: Minmin Yu Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:42 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Minmin Yu
Yeah I used to use Fisher Scientific square plastic cover slips. Now I am using Sigma 22x22mm (Z36,590-4, 100 each Lot10B084279) smaller sized ones. These plastic ones are much more durable than the glass ones and are very easy to be handled. They work very well for both hanging drops or for

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Daniel M. Himmel, Ph. D.
Fisher Scientific makes 22 inch square plastic cover slips, which are labeled "Fisherbrand Unbreakable Cover Slips". I and my colleagues have used them for over 15 years instead of siliconized glass coverslips. Just dip each one in ethanol to clean before use, dry with an air blower, and use it

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Hughes, Jon
in my experience using silane with PAGE plates, rain-x is much better (at least in that case). jon Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Goldman, Adrian Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2019 17:43 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
For the last 150,000 years we've been using the Hampton THICK siliconized coverslips - I'm told they're one of the many crystallization tricks/gizmos that Alan D'Arcy invented. We quite often recycle them - and I've never seen any problems. The thick ones are very easy to use because you can jam

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Goldman, Adrian
Yes, that was it! I just couldn’t remember the name. > On 31 Jan 2019, at 17:04, Mathews, Irimpan I. > <2add487f8799-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: > > Long back we used Prosil solution (I think, 1% solution) for siliconization. > Mathews > > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Mathews, Irimpan I.
Long back we used Prosil solution (I think, 1% solution) for siliconization. Mathews -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Goldman, Adrian Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 8:43 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Is

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Goldman, Adrian
When I was a graduate student, about 150,000 years ago, we took regular coverslips and doused them in ?silane to make siliconised ones. You then let them sit in a rack to dry. It was a bit tedious but not horrendously so. After a while, I stopped doing it altogether, because IMHO it didn’t

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Holton, James M
plastic. Plastic cover slips are no good for UV or polarization, but they are way better than glass if you happen to want to try in-situ diffraction. (https://doi.org/10.1107/S002188981254) If you can't afford commercial ones, then you can always cut up some inkjet transparency film

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Mitchell D. Miller
We used to use dichlorodimethylsilane in toluene to siliconize both coverslips and the special glass capillaries for crystal mounting. I don't have the protocol we used anymore, but the one listed on protocolpedia sounds familiar.

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2019-01-31 Thread Hughes, Jon
yes, rain-x is excellent (also for PAGE gel plates). a little bottle costs almost nothing and will last you a lifetime. best jon Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Nagarajan V Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2019 16:14 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re:

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Nagarajan V
I know of Rain-X being used. V. Nagarajan On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 1:17 AM wrote: > A long time ago, before siliconized coverslips became commercially > available, we used to siliconize coverslips ourselves. It is not really > that much work and unsiliconized cover slips should be very cheap. If

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Zhijie Li
Hi, I believe that one can put a 50-100uL drop of fresh SigmaCote (in a tube cap) with the glass pieces (surface well exposed), sealed in a dedicated (because the container will be coated too) container (air-tight lunch boxes). After a while the SigmaCote vapor should react with the glass

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Tjaard Pijning
Hi Rajnandani, The cheaper DIY protocol that Herman referred to, is actually still in use by us. Use a siliconizing solution (e.g. Serva 35130.02 silicone solution in isopropanol). Put about 20-30 microliters on the coverslips, preferrably with a repeating pipette and in a fumehood. Then

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Herman . Schreuder
A long time ago, before siliconized coverslips became commercially available, we used to siliconize coverslips ourselves. It is not really that much work and unsiliconized cover slips should be very cheap. If you wish, I could try to find back the protocol. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin

[ccp4bb] Is there any alternative to siliconized glass coverslips for crystallization?

2019-01-31 Thread Rajnandani Kashyap
Dear All I am a PhD student who requires lots of coverslips (!!) for setting up hanging drop crystallization. The company sells it for a huge amount. Also there is a wide monetary difference between a normal siliconized coverslip and a 22mm siliconized circle coverslips. We tried to search for an