Well, I have had the time to thoroughly go over what is
on that RL02 Disk Image. It's disappointing. One could
certainly not do an install on any of the OSes from that
pack as it is very incomplete. Lots of missing file.
On top of that, reading some of the files shows that there
should be a
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:33:45AM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> Like any other language, APL is only obfuscated to those who never
> learned to understand it.
I was required to take it at Rice University circa 1974. I got quite
good at it.
A week later, I had *no* idea what the
> On Mar 31, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:02 AM Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> RSTS V9 and later have a BACKUP that's compatible with VMS, so if RSX has
>> one also that would work. And there's DECnet, of course.
>>
> are the NIC drivers
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:02 AM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Mar 31, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/31/20 8:37 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> >>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 10:30 PM, Mark Matlock via
it.
At one point DEC donated the APL-11 to DECUS and I think that is when I got it
back in 1984 or so. The files I have include the Macro-11 source code which as
near as I can tell was not on the DEC distribution when it was a layered
product. I now think that the copy of APL-11 I have must have
> On Mar 31, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 3/31/20 8:37 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 10:30 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk
>>> wrote:
>>>
According to the Ref Manual, that's the one I was looking for.
Now to mount the RL on
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctech
> wrote:
>
> On 3/30/20 3:21 PM, Mark Matlock via cctech wrote:
>> Bill,
>>The APL-11 files on DECUS RSX85A are not a complete distribution but a
>> modified version that was intended to run under I/
On 3/30/20 10:30 PM, Mark Matlock via cctech wrote:
According to the Ref Manual, that's the one I was looking for.
Now to mount the RL on RSTS and see what it takes to build it
there. I'll let the list know how I make out in case someone
else is interested.
bill
The RL02 image is RSX
On 3/31/20 8:36 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
On Mar 30, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctech
wrote:
On 3/30/20 3:21 PM, Mark Matlock via cctech wrote:
Bill,
The APL-11 files on DECUS RSX85A are not a complete distribution but a
modified version that was intended to run under I/D
On 3/31/20 8:37 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Mar 30, 2020, at 10:30 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk
wrote:
According to the Ref Manual, that's the one I was looking for.
Now to mount the RL on RSTS and see what it takes to build it
there. I'll let the list know how I make out in case
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 10:30 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> According to the Ref Manual, that's the one I was looking for.
>> Now to mount the RL on RSTS and see what it takes to build it
>> there. I'll let the list know how I make out in case someone
>> else is interested.
>>
>>
On 3/30/20 7:45 PM, Marc Howard via cctalk wrote:
The only things I remember about APL were:
1. Square divide symbol formed something that looked like a
domino (1 over 1) and was the random number generator.
2. Someone always finds a way to do a moderate sized task in one line of
code. The
1.4 of the APL-11 Users Manual. You use
Mnemonics. Special combinations of letters preceded by a period
that represent the symbols. Not as easy to read but still gives
you the power of APL. On the Prime it was combinations of letters
preceded by an octothorpe "#".
bill
On 3/30/20 3:21 PM, Mark Matlock via cctech wrote:
Bill,
The APL-11 files on DECUS RSX85A are not a complete distribution but a
modified version that was intended to run under I/D on M+.
I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I will make it
available at http
; wrote:
> >
> > On 3/30/2020 1:37 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > > I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I
> will make it available at http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip <
> http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip
>According to the Ref Manual, that's the one I was looking for.
>Now to mount the RL on RSTS and see what it takes to build it
>there. I'll let the list know how I make out in case someone
>else is interested.
>
>bill
The RL02 image is RSX Files-11, and I’m not sure if you can mount that with
<
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 3/30/2020 1:37 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I will
> make it available at http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip <
> http://www.rsx11m.com/ap
On 3/30/20 2:22 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
On Mar 30, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
On 3/30/20 12:34 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 3/30/20 7:58 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Anybody have an image of the tape for APL-11?
APL-11 was released through DECUS
, 2020 at 4:07 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
On 3/30/2020 1:37 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I will make it
available at http://www.rsx11m.com/
On 3/30/2020 1:37 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk wrote:
Bill,
I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I will make it
available at http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip <http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip>
Once you mount the disk image with Simh, the are two ready to ru
I don't have an easy way to dump the ROMs at the moment.
TTFN - Guy
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 13:49 -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:24 AM Guy Sotomayor via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > I have a DEC Writer III with the APL character set ROM and the APL
> >
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:24 AM Guy Sotomayor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I have a DEC Writer III with the APL character set ROM and the APL
> keyboard! Just need to hook it up to something that has APL on it
> and will generate the correct character sequences. ;-)
>
Cool!
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:58:46 -0400
> From: Bill Gunshannon <mailto:bill.gunshan...@hotmail.com>>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>>
> Subject: APL-11
> Message-ID:
>
>
Bill,
The APL-11 files on DECUS RSX85A are not a complete distribution but a
modified version that was intended to run under I/D on M+.
I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I will make it
available at http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip
Once you mount the disk image
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 3/30/20 12:34 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>> On 3/30/20 7:58 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>>> Anybody have an image of the tape for APL-11?
>> APL-11 was released
On 3/30/20 12:34 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 3/30/20 7:58 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Anybody have an image of the tape for APL-11?
APL-11 was released through DECUS. Here is the RSX-11 version
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/freeware/decus/rsx85a/370360
On 3/30/20 7:58 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Anybody have an image of the tape for APL-11?
APL-11 was released through DECUS. Here is the RSX-11 version
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/freeware/decus/rsx85a/370360/
; But now another language of interest has reared its ugly head. :-)
> >
> > Anybody have an image of the tape for APL-11? Manual claims it
> > runs on all of the PDP-11 OSes and it is another language from
> > my past that I haven't touched (other than to read some pro
of the tape for APL-11? Manual claims it
runs on all of the PDP-11 OSes and it is another language from
my past that I haven't touched (other than to read some programs
out of curiosity) in more than two decades.
Oh neat! Be sure you have the special keyboard and character set for it!
e.g. just
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:58:46AM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
> Haven't given up on DIBOL. May try installing the RT-11 version and
> see if it runs.
>
> But now another language of interest has reared its ugly head. :-)
>
> Anybody have an image o
Haven't given up on DIBOL. May try installing the RT-11 version and
see if it runs.
But now another language of interest has reared its ugly head. :-)
Anybody have an image of the tape for APL-11? Manual claims it
runs on all of the PDP-11 OSes and it is another language from
my past
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