Re: IBM PC Network

2021-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/22/21 7:12 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: I guess that's a selling point of TR, but I loathed it when introduced to it after using Ethernet at UIUC.  Having to learn CPI-C, LU-2, LU-6.2, APPC, etc. and configure Communications Manager/2 on OS/2 to emulate a FEP (3174?, not sure, my mind

Re: Link Rot

2021-05-22 Thread Justin Goldberg via cctalk
I've always thought that robots.txt would the be interesting stuff that should be archived, perhaps it could be behind a paywall. There's no law against archiving it other then subnets being blocked, which is easily bypassed as matt cutts wrote a blog post on silently spidering content. Also you

Re: IBM PC Network

2021-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/22/21 6:50 PM, Lyle Bickley via cctalk wrote: Wow, never heard of "Tokenray" ;) Nor have I. BTW: 16 Mbit Token Ring was much more reliable (especially in "noisy" environments) and considerably faster with more consistent performance than 10 Mbit Ethernet. I've heard tell that Token

Re: COMPAQ ISA PC to ethernent

2021-05-22 Thread Richard Pope via cctalk
Grant and et al, I have several hundred MB and expansion cards from 30 years ago up to about 5 years ago. I would like to sell all of my computer equipment. Boards, cards, cables, covers, printers, monitors, computers. The whole works. I probably have cancer and if I do I am dead. i

RE: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread Craig Ruff via cctalk
I've also used a version 5.1 SCSI2SD on a VAXstation 4000/60 without problem.

RE: Link Rot

2021-05-22 Thread Ali via cctalk
> However, it's far from perfect--in particular ftp content has > apparently Yes, who would have ever thought FTPs would be dropping like flies though? Web sites? Sure. But FTP - how else were you going to distribute all those drivers, patches, etc... Short answer just don't bother doing it

Re: Link Rot

2021-05-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/22/21 7:41 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > link rot is weird in what disapears vs still works > > On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 6:45 PM Ali via cctalk > wrote: > >> Interesting article on Link Rot and its prevalence. According to the >> article even sources being referenced as early as

Re: Link Rot

2021-05-22 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
link rot is weird in what disapears vs still works On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 6:45 PM Ali via cctalk wrote: > Interesting article on Link Rot and its prevalence. According to the > article even sources being referenced as early as 2018 have about a 60% > Rot.I think all of us in this hobby can

Re: IBM PC Network

2021-05-22 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 5/22/2021 7:50 PM, Lyle Bickley via cctalk wrote: BTW: 16 Mbit Token Ring was much more reliable (especially in "noisy" environments) and considerably faster with more consistent performance than 10 Mbit Ethernet. We won a number of large contracts when other network companies used twisted

Re: IBM PC Network

2021-05-22 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
Bill, On Sat, 22 May 2021 17:43:44 -0400 Bill Degnan wrote: > You mean a Tokenray network? Wow, never heard of "Tokenray" ;) BTW: 16 Mbit Token Ring was much more reliable (especially in "noisy" environments) and considerably faster with more consistent performance than 10 Mbit Ethernet. We

Link Rot

2021-05-22 Thread Ali via cctalk
Interesting article on Link Rot and its prevalence. According to the article even sources being referenced as early as 2018 have about a 60% Rot.I think all of us in this hobby can relate nor only to loss of articles but from sites, drivers, file repositories,

Re: IBM PC Network

2021-05-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
You mean a Tokenray network? On Sat, May 22, 2021, 4:34 PM Lyle Bickley via cctalk wrote: > Hi Grant, > > On Sat, 22 May 2021 13:34:05 -0600 > Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > > Q: Does anyone have any IBM PC Network hardware and / or software that > > they would be willing to part with? >

Re: IBM PC Network

2021-05-22 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
Hi Grant, On Sat, 22 May 2021 13:34:05 -0600 Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > Q: Does anyone have any IBM PC Network hardware and / or software that > they would be willing to part with? My company installed a several hundred IBM PC Network equipped workstations "back in the day" ;) It was

Re: IBM PC Network

2021-05-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/22/21 12:34 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC_Network > > > I have the tech ref on bitsavers. This was sytek cable modem tech. In small networks you had a little frequency translator box locally

IBM PC Network

2021-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
Q: Does anyone have any IBM PC Network hardware and / or software that they would be willing to part with? The recent "COMPAQ ISA PC to ethernet" thread got me thinking about IBM PC Network (and ARCnet) again. Sadly, Wikipedia's IBM PC Network article [1] is about the most concise /

Re: ECND -was- COMPAQ ISA PC to ethernent

2021-05-22 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I tend to agree with everything you said.  Though, minor nitpick, I think you meant 80286 when you typed 80206.  ;-) True, 0 looks like 8 with cheap glasses :-) What is an ECNE? ECNE was Enterprise CNE. You had to pass the CNE, then additional tests on SNA networking, 3+ Open, some of the

Re: ECND -was- COMPAQ ISA PC to ethernent

2021-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
I tend to agree with everything you said. Though, minor nitpick, I think you meant 80286 when you typed 80206. ;-) On 5/22/21 1:11 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Novel ECNE (I so don't get to drag that out much anymore. Drat) What is an ECNE? I know what a CNE and CNA are. But I've not

Re: COMPAQ ISA PC to ethernent

2021-05-22 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I think "compatible" is a weird things with Novell Ethernet labeled / citified cards as it's my understanding that Novell didn't actually sell the vast majority of NE-1000 / NE-2000 cards.  Instead, they licensed / certified that other manufacturer cards adhered to their standard.  Thus there

Re: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 5/22/2021 10:29 AM, Zane Healy wrote: On May 21, 2021, at 5:15 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: On 5/21/2021 3:41 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: Does anyone have experience using a SCSI2SD board to replace a Hard Drive on a VAXstation or an AlphaStation? I’m thinking about

Re: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread Mark Matlock via cctalk
> wrote: In this the weakest link would appear to be the SD Card. As such it seems to me that the best solution would be to have 2 or more SCSI2SD?s in the device. I?m not sure what benefit would be achieved by using a single board to present multiple devices. Unless of course you had a

Re: COMPAQ ISA PC to ethernent

2021-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/22/21 11:16 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: The venerable options of LapLink and / or InterLnk (InterSvr) come to mind for transferring files. I forgot to mention, both LapLink and InterLnk (InterSvr) supported a parallel port cable too. It was quite a bit faster than the serial null

Re: COMPAQ ISA PC to ethernent

2021-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/20/21 9:09 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: I assume there is Windows on the Compaq? I think that it would need to be Windows for Workgroups; 3.1 / 3.11, to include networking support. Depending on the class of hardware that Randy's Compaq is, that may be a tall order for the system.

Re: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/22/21 9:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: In this the weakest link would appear to be the SD Card. As such it seems to me that the best solution would be to have 2 or more SCSI2SD’s in the device. There should be SMART support so you can see what the state of the card is, assuming

Re: COMPAQ ISA PC to ethernent

2021-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
Hi Rich, On 5/20/21 8:21 PM, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote: I have ISA ethernet and Arcnet boards. I'd be interested in knowing more about your ARCnet boards. Of course, that is if Randy doesn't end up using them. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: COMPAQ ISA PC to ethernent

2021-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/20/21 8:01 PM, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: If anyone has ideas about boards or software to connect this original Compaq to the net let me know! As others have said, I would expect that many 16-bit ISA Ethernet cards to work in 8-bit ISA slots. You might look for NE-1000

RE: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread Ali via cctalk
> In this the weakest link would appear to be the SD Card. As such it > seems to me that the best solution would be to have 2 or more SCSI2SD’s > in the device. I’m not sure what benefit would be achieved by using a > single board to present multiple devices. Unless of course you had a > drive

Re: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On May 22, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Ali wrote: > >> I am wondering if anyone has used these to replace HDDs in RAID >> configurations? My thought would be it should work fine as long as they >> look like real HDD to the system but who knows? > > Looking at the FAQ it looks like it does: > > "Does

RE: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread Ali via cctalk
> I am wondering if anyone has used these to replace HDDs in RAID > configurations? My thought would be it should work fine as long as they > look like real HDD to the system but who knows? Looking at the FAQ it looks like it does: "Does SCSI2SD do ECC or mirroring ? No. However, you can

Re: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On May 22, 2021, at 8:35 AM, Ali wrote: > >> I just placed an order for the initial 4 V5.2 boards I’ll need. Once >> they have V6 boards back in stock, I’ll need to order a couple of those >> as well. These should definitely help reduce heat, noise, and power >> consumption. > > I am

RE: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread Ali via cctalk
> I just placed an order for the initial 4 V5.2 boards I’ll need. Once > they have V6 boards back in stock, I’ll need to order a couple of those > as well. These should definitely help reduce heat, noise, and power > consumption. I am wondering if anyone has used these to replace HDDs in RAID

Re: SCSI2SD

2021-05-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On May 21, 2021, at 5:15 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: > > On 5/21/2021 3:41 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >> Does anyone have experience using a SCSI2SD board to replace a Hard Drive on >> a VAXstation or an AlphaStation? I’m thinking about using them on some of >> my systems