Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lot of lies removed.

I am not sure whether you send your lies and because you are just uninformed
or because you actively like to spread FUD.

the only result from your lies is that you completely lose creability.

Jörg

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Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:19:58PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 It seems that you are not interested in a solution for a possible problem.

No I am interested in a solution, but if I am seen as a liar I don't see
this could work ?

 You seem to be only interested in ranting :-(

No, that's not true.

 You have been asked to prove your problem but you ignored this request.

???

 If you have problems, why don't you prove these problems by sending the output
 from e.g. readcd and cdrecord -minfo on this medium.

I have sent all requested info ???

For example I did send cdrecord -minfo :
cdrecord dev=2,0,0 -minfo
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a36 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 
1995-2007 Jörg Schilling
scsidev: '2,0,0'
scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34
Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 5
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'LITE-ON '
Identifikation : 'DVDRW SH-16A7S  '
Revision   : 'WS04'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 DVD+R driver (mmc_dvdplusr).
Driver flags   : NO-CD DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED 
Supported modes: PACKET SAO LAYER_JUMP
WARNING: Phys disk size 2295104 differs from rzone size 2146272! Prerecorded 
disk?
WARNING: Phys start: 196608 Phys end 2491711
Mounted media class:  DVD
Mounted media type:   DVD+R
Disk Is not erasable
data type:standard
disk status:  incomplete/appendable
session status:   empty
BG format status: none
first track:  1
number of sessions:   2
first track in last sess: 2
last track in last sess:  2
Disk Is unrestricted
Disk type: DVD, HD-DVD or BD

Track  Sess Type   Start Addr End Addr   Size
==
1 1 Data   0  21462712146272
2 2 Blank  21483202295103146784

Last session start address: 0
Last session leadout start address: 2146272
Next writable address:  2148320
Remaining writable size:146784

If you need info from readcd, I provide all you need (in case you belive me
otherwise it's pointless).
For example :

readcd dev=2,0,0 -fulltoc
Read  speed: 22160 kB/s (CD 125x, DVD 16x, BD  4x).
Write speed: 22160 kB/s (CD 125x, DVD 16x, BD  4x).
readcd: Input/output error. read toc: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  43 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 04 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 40s
readcd: Cannot read TOC header

I didn't try again to burn using cdrecord, but with that drive on last
try it only printed those kinds of SCSI errors, which seems to only
appear using cdrecord tools, so I don't think it's my system fault.

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Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 01:54:43PM +0100, Gregoire Favre wrote:
 #!/bin/bash
[...]
 UNLOCK='cdrdao unlock --device 0,1,0 --driver generic-mmc  sleep 1'
[...]
 #$UNLOCK

Good thing this is commented out, because that would not have worked.

Try using a function instead:

unlock() {
  cdrdao unlock ...  sleep 1
}
...
unlock

You can't stick a complex command (foo  bar) in a variable and execute
it with a simple parameter expansion -- you would have to use eval for
that, and you really don't want to do that.  Just use a function.


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Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Greg Wooledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 01:54:43PM +0100, Gregoire Favre wrote:
  #!/bin/bash
 [...]
  UNLOCK='cdrdao unlock --device 0,1,0 --driver generic-mmc  sleep 1'
 [...]
  #$UNLOCK

 Good thing this is commented out, because that would not have worked.

 Try using a function instead:

 unlock() {
   cdrdao unlock ...  sleep 1
 }
 ...
 unlock

cdrdao does not support DVDs and has not been enhanced since more than 3 years.

Jörg

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Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Gregoire Favre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:19:58PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

  It seems that you are not interested in a solution for a possible problem.

 No I am interested in a solution, but if I am seen as a liar I don't see
 this could work ?

I did not call you a liar, but you are not cooperating.

I was trying to help you although your problems are caused from using non-free
software from Debian (wodim/cdrkit). The software you used has well known bugs 
that are bejond my influence I expect that you honor my courtesy and 
cooperate instead of rejecting to send even an evidence for your probem.



  You seem to be only interested in ranting :-(

 No, that's not true.

Why then don't you send the requested information that could probably prove 
that you have problems?

If you don't send information, I have to judge on the most probable cause
for your problem. 


  You have been asked to prove your problem but you ignored this request.

 ???

  If you have problems, why don't you prove these problems by sending the 
  output
  from e.g. readcd and cdrecord -minfo on this medium.

 I have sent all requested info ???

NO, definitely did not!

I asked you for information that verifies your problem!
You did not yet send any prove for a problem. 
If you do not send the information from the failing system, you are not 
cooperating and nobody may help you.

Just to make sure that you cannot claim that yoou don'r know what to send:

-   send the output from cdrecord -minfo from the _failing_ platform

-   send the output from readcd f=/dev/null from the _failing_ platform 

Note that the cause for your problem was _not_ cdrtools but defective/bad 
software and that you have been warned about the bugs in wodim/cdrkit more 
than once.

Why did you use the buggy software instead of the free original? 

Why do you repeat false claims like: there are no problems with wodim on 
Linux?

Jörg

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Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

some rather technical contribution:

 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
 Track State:   invisible

This means the track was not closed but contains
data.

Reasoning:

dvd+rw- mediainfo.cpp reports invisible
if in the reply of MMC command READ TRACK INFORMATION
neither the RT bit nor the Blank bit is set.

I read in MMC-5 
6.27.3.9 Track Status: RT, Blank, Packet, and FP Bits
about DVD+R :

RT=0 : The Logical Track is the
   invisible/ incomplete fragment.
RT=1 : The bounds of the fragment are defined
   within the Disc/Session Identification
   Zone.
Blank=0 : Some non-zero number of writable units
  within the Logical Tracks is written.
Blank=1 : All writable units within the Logical Track
  are blank.

and in 3.1.39 Incomplete/Invisible Logical Track

On a writable disc that implements a sequential recording model,
a Logical Track is Incomplete if:
a) It is open,
b) It has a known start address, and
c) Although its maximum length is limited only by the medium capacity,
   the Logical Track has no defined length.
If the append point (NWA) of the Incomplete Logical Track is equal
to its start address (i.e. the Logical Track is
blank), the Logical Track is Invisible.


So i would call RT=0,Blank=0 incomplete
rather than invisible.

Whatever, if the track was closed, then its bounds
would be defined and RT would be set.
On the other hand the drive should not issue info
about two tracks if there is only a half one. :o)


The difference between the Linux system and the OSX
system could as well be about differences in the
drives (if it is different hardware at all).

A DVD-ROM drive will probably feel tempted to
take invisible or incomplete literally.
After all, the size of the first track is not
finally decided yet.


If it is important to make a particular DVD+R
complete then one could try to issue an appropriate
CLOSE TRACK command on that media.

I know that cdrskin will not do that on a track
which it did not open in the same program run.
(One could implement -fix and then try.)

It might be helpful to do what man growisofs
proposes for unclosed media with closed tracks:
  growisofs -M /dev/dvd=/dev/zero
But, well, it might also make the media unusable
on any drive.
One would have to try.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 04:35:19PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Gregoire Favre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:19:58PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

  It seems that you are not interested in a solution for a possible problem.

 No I am interested in a solution, but if I am seen as a liar I don't see
 this could work ?

I did not call you a liar, but you are not cooperating.

I was trying to help you although your problems are caused from using non-free
software from Debian (wodim/cdrkit).

Joerg, please stop the FUD and bullshit. Really. There's no need for
it.

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Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was trying to help you although your problems are caused from using 
 non-free
 software from Debian (wodim/cdrkit).

 Joerg, please stop the FUD and bullshit. Really. There's no need for
 it.

There is no need for wodim.

Please stop to attack free software projects!

Jörg

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Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Thomas Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 some rather technical contribution:

If the other people only would be interested in a technical discussion!

  READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
  Track State:   invisible

 This means the track was not closed but contains
 data.

 Reasoning:

 dvd+rw- mediainfo.cpp reports invisible
 if in the reply of MMC command READ TRACK INFORMATION
 neither the RT bit nor the Blank bit is set.

If you look at the cdrecord -minfo output, you see better
how the media looks:

There is one closed session (from the reports from the OP,
this has not been closed by wodim but by a cdrecord -fix
call).

The disk has not been closed to prevent appending further data and 
for this reason, there is one invisible session.

Unfortunately the OP is not interested in help and does not send the
requested informaton, but I would guess that Mac OS X could read the
medium using readcd f=somefile. I would guess that there is a bug
in Mac OS X multi session handling. This is something where only Apple could 
help.

Anyway: cdrecord sucessfully fixed the first session on the medium.
If the OP did use cdrecord _instead_ of wodim for all his work, there
was no problem as cdrecord does not create multi-border disks by default.

Jörg

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Re: Doesn't wodim close disk ?

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Joerg Schilling:
 There is one closed session.
 The disk has not been closed to prevent appending further data and 
 for this reason, there is one invisible session.

But the track still reports RT=0, Blank=0
with READ TRACK INFORMATION.
If it was closed then RT should be 1.


Gregoire Favre:
 readcd dev=2,0,0 -fulltoc
 ...
 CDB:  43 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 04 00
 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
 Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00
 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0

That is a READ TOC/PMA/ATIP command demanding
reply format 2 which is not available with DVD.

A complete table of content would have to be composed
out of READ DISC INFORMATION and READ TRACK INFORMATION.
A restricted TOC can be obtained for DVD media
by READ TOC/PMA/ATIP Format 0. It provides just the
info necessary for proper multi-session perparation.

Both info sources can be viewed by dvd+rw-mediainfo
where the headlines tell quite directly what
command was used:
READ DISC INFORMATION:
READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
READ TRACK INFORMATION[#2]:
FABRICATED TOC: (This is from READ TOC/PMA/ATIP Format 0)

The code of dvd+rw-mediainfo.cpp is quite readable
and one can learn the meaning of reply bytes from
the MMC standard. E.g.:
  http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/drafts/mmc5/mmc5r03c.pdf


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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