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2021-09-29 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
air > > dryer to warm the hose and liquid dish soap to lube the nipple barb. > > > > Get Outlook for Android https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg > > > > - > > From: cenelson via CnC-List > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > Sent: Thursday, September 23

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2021-09-28 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
arb. > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > ------ > *From:* cenelson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:09:10 PM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* cenelson > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Fuel pump > > Had a simil

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2021-09-28 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:47 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: Matthew Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump Is your friend certain of the cause? My Westerbeke also does not like to start after bouncing around in the big waves (especially following a knock-down

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2021-09-28 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
:15 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: Matthew Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump Thanks, Dave. I will try leaving the pump on next time I venture out in the really fun stuff. From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:30 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject

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2021-09-28 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
Thanks, Dave. I will try leaving the pump on next time I venture out in the really fun stuff. From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:30 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump I had this happen on my previous boat

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2021-09-28 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:44 PM > To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Cc: Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@gmail.com>> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump > > This is the second boat I have sprung for that double Racor. > A friend of mine finished u

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2021-09-28 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
have always been able to get it started, but it takes a lot of turning over. Good thing I have sufficient battery reserve. From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:44 PM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump This is the second boat

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2021-09-27 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Knecht via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 6:02 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump That makes sense. I thought it was two filters in series. I did not realize it was switchable. Makes sense but 4x the price

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2021-09-27 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
; From: David Knecht via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:17 PM > To: CnC CnC discussion list > Cc: David Knecht > Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump > > Curious why you went with the double 500 ra

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2021-09-27 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Just to be clear Dave, I AM agreeing with you. From: David Knecht via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:32 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump On page 27 of this link: https://www.racorstore.com/PDF

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2021-09-27 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
ailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 3:19 PM > To: CnC CnC discussion list > Cc: David Knecht > Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump > > Hi Josh- I was looking at new Racor filter units and this was the information

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2021-09-27 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:17 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump Curious why you went with the double 500 rather than the single? I was not sure what you gain with that. Dave S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT On Sep 27, 2021

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2021-09-27 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
: David Knecht via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 3:19 PM > To: CnC CnC discussion list > Cc: David Knecht > Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump > > Hi Josh- I was looking at new Racor fi

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2021-09-27 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
> Bill Coleman > Entrada, Erie, PA > > > > From: David Knecht via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 3:19 PM > To: CnC CnC discussion list > Cc: David Knecht

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2021-09-27 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
n side. Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA From: David Knecht via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 3:19 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump Hi Josh- I was looking at new Racor filter

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2021-09-27 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi Josh- I was looking at new Racor filter units and this was the information Defender provides. That sounds like the reverse of your recommendation? Turbine Series filter assemblies are designed to be installed on the vacuum side of the fuel transfer pump for best efficiency and protect

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2021-09-27 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
-list.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 1:47 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump Update on fuel issues: I spent a few hours more on the fuel system last weekend and things seem to be working, but unfortunately I am not sure what fixed it or even

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2021-09-27 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
and liquid dish soap to lube the nipple barb. > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > From: cenelson via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:09:10 PM > To: Stus-List > Cc: cenelson > Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump > > Had a similar

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2021-09-25 Thread Korbey Hunt via CnC-List
:10 PM To: Stus-List Cc: cenelson Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump Had a similar problem to yours several years ago. After doing most of what you have done, my diesel mechanic suggested just replacing the Racor MA 500(?) top plate since even a little over tightening can push the middle down

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2021-09-24 Thread Doug via CnC-List
List Date: 9/23/21 07:38 (GMT-08:00) To: Stus-List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump I'm late to this discussion, sorry.  If you have an electric fuel pump it should be connected before the racor.  Suck directly from the tank and as close to the tank as possible, disch

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2021-09-23 Thread cenelson via CnC-List
to get to the engine.  Neil Andersen1982 C 32, FoxFireRock Hall, MD 21661484-354-8800From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:36:44 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump Hi Dennis- The Racor looks OK, but of course that says

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2021-09-23 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Ok. If it doesn't have the T handle top then it's not a 500. For those that do have the 500, overtightening the T handle can warp the top resulting in the potential for air inleakage. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 8:37 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <

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2021-09-23 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I'm late to this discussion, sorry. If you have an electric fuel pump it should be connected before the racor. Suck directly from the tank and as close to the tank as possible, discharge into the racor. This eliminates the chance of a vacuum leak in the racor or anywhere else downstream of the

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2021-09-23 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Very true Neil Andersen Rock Hall, MD 21661 484-354-8800 From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:26:40 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump For an gasoline engine that might be true

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2021-09-23 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
, September 23, 2021 9:54 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Neil Andersen Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump I would think that risky. If the Racor is the issue because it is doing its job and there is particulate matter coming from the tank, bypassing it will allow the matter to get to the engine

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2021-09-23 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Sorry if the start of the thread was lost somewhere. Quick summary: The problem was the engine twice ran for some time and then died and would not start. When I checked the Racor later, it was half full of fuel so diagnosis was either electric fuel pump not working, plugged pickup tube or

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2021-09-23 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
g from the tank, bypassing it will > allow the matter to get to the engine. > > Neil Andersen > 1982 C 32, FoxFire > Rock Hall, MD 21661 > 484-354-8800 > From: David Knecht via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:36:44 AM > To: CnC CnC discussion list > Cc

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2021-09-23 Thread Chris Riedinger via CnC-List
Also wondering if 'dont understand' goes a little deeper here Do you mean the mechanical pump on your block or? Why are you chasing a fuel pump issue? Do you have a no-start? A boat dying after a certain amount of time? Etc etc On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 10:19 AM Dave S via CnC-List wrote: > If

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2021-09-23 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:36:44 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump Hi Dennis- The Racor looks OK, but of course that says nothing. I don’t know the Racor model but it is older since it does not have

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2021-09-23 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi Dennis- The Racor looks OK, but of course that says nothing. I don’t know the Racor model but it is older since it does not have the threaded top that you can add a gauge to. Since that is a more expensive alteration, I thought I would replace the fuel lines first and see if that fixes the

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2021-09-23 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
What type of fuel filter do you have? If it's a Racor MA500, the top may be warped or the gasket may be cracked or displaced. Those are not infrequent issues with that filter. Either condition could result in air inleakage. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Thanks to all of the

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2021-09-23 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Thanks for all the input. I spent all day yesterday on the problem with two trips to Defender for parts. I realized that I had detached the ground wire when I unbolted the fuel pump and when I reattached the ground, it started clicking away. I then hooked up a new fuel line from the tank

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2021-09-23 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
On my boat the ground wire has a ring terminal attached to the pump foot. The original pump was screwed to the inside of the engine box with wood screws and the ground came loose during the delivery home. I later through bolted it for better reliability and no problems since. Knock on wood.

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2021-09-22 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Mind was from 1 of the bolts that hold the pump fast to the bulkhead and a wire from there to a bus bar ground On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:16 AM David Knecht via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am trying to diagnose fuel issue. I dont understand pump wiring. There > appears to be only

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2021-09-22 Thread Doug via CnC-List
Unlike a car, our boats being fiberglass, require a ground wire. If there is not a black wire (ground) attached some where on the pumps metal frame, add one and run it to a ground buss. Unfortunately a lot of manufacturers use a black lead wire from the pump for the 12v connection.  I installed

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2021-09-22 Thread Korbey Hunt via CnC-List
Pump is grouned to motor by attachment bolts. Get Outlook for Android From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:16:05 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: davidakne...@gmail.com Subject: Stus-List Fuel pump I

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2021-09-22 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
If there’s only one terminal on the pump itself then the metal chassis must be the ground. If you are referring to a schematic the ground wire may not be illustrated. Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:16 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List > wrote: > > I am trying to diagnose

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2021-09-21 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
ey Hunt via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2021 5:17 PM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* Korbey Hunt > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem? > > > > A crew member advised he had an intermitent mystery fuel problem that > turned out to be a blockage in

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2021-09-21 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
t via CnC-List > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:17 PM >> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> >> Cc: Korbey Hunt mailto:kampf2...@hotmail.com>> >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem? >&g

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2021-09-21 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
t: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:17 PM > To: Stus-List > Cc: Korbey Hunt > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem? > > A crew member advised he had an intermitent mystery fuel problem that turned > out to be a blockage in the fuel supply line at the tank. > >

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2021-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
vacuum gauges to a member on the list. I still have one permanently installed. Joe Coquina From: Korbey Hunt via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:17 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Korbey Hunt Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem? A crew member advised he had an intermitent

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2021-09-20 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
12:56:10 PM To: Stus-List Cc: dwight veinot Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?   I have the same engine with a 12v Facet electric fuel pump. Check the 12v supply to the pump first. When I turn the ignition key on if the fuel pump is working there is a very obvious clicking sound. Open

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2021-09-20 Thread Korbey Hunt via CnC-List
:10 PM To: Stus-List Cc: dwight veinot Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem? I have the same engine with a 12v Facet electric fuel pump. Check the 12v supply to the pump first. When I turn the ignition key on if the fuel pump is working there is a very obvious clicking sound. Open the bleed

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2021-09-20 Thread Korbey Hunt via CnC-List
I had a similar strange problem. Running almost new (200 hrs) 30 hp Yanmar diesel engine for a number of hours at 80% rpm with no problem when engine quit. Slowed revs and then stop. Drifted for a few minutes. Restarted engine and no trouble after. Returned to dock at lower RPM. Replaced

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2021-09-20 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I have the same engine with a 12v Facet electric fuel pump. Check the 12v supply to the pump first. When I turn the ignition key on if the fuel pump is working there is a very obvious clicking sound. Open the bleed screw and you should see a good flow of fuel. I purchased a solid state Facet 12v